I actually unsubscribed from Josh Chaill and Noel Phillips recently just because of what you said, we still fly in economy class because we want to stay relevant and don't want to cover just the meals and premium seats because most of us still fly in economy
Many channels concentrate on premium flights because they are collecting status and air miles which makes their future flights cheaper. I actually prefer the premium economy option depending on the airline as the ability to earn status is better per dollar than business class but not as expensive. It all depends on the airline. It pays to compare like for like. Even flying economy within Europe and buying lounge access makes more sense than business class a lot of the time.
I like variety from air travel content creators. Plus, I don’t think their intent is to show off how “rich” they are, they’re just sharing their experiences. That said, I don’t follow some of them because of how they go about their work and I don’t want to support them. So I’m glad you un-subbed from one of them there 😂
I would like to add that Denver has lounge access again. Icelandair uses the United lounge, but only if booked into Saga. It went away due to construction and the pandemic but lounge access is available again. As of a couple months ago.
I can see why they don't call it Business Class. Those seats on the flight to Keflavik are, at best, Premium Economy seats. The second flight looked a bit better.
I surprise the 6 minutes transfer time including passport control can be done in KEF airport! However the transfer time might be longer in busier airports like LHR, AMS or CDG. Can anybody advise the minimum time required for transfer from international sector (1st leg) to another international sector (final leg) thanks.
Great video once again! I believe this is more or less an in-between choice between premium economy and business on transatlantic journeys and will definitely choose this over any premium economy if priced reasonably.
For regular flyers there are other factors especially if they are collecting status with an airline. For tourists it makes a good alternative especially if you like the idea of a stop to stretch your legs.
@@AnetaMihaylova-d6f Yeah, so that’s why I said “let down by its own creator”. If Boeing and the FAA did their jobs properly, we would see the MAX as just any other airplane right now. I ain’t ignoring how much they butchered the MAX development and production.
Can you do a Brutally Honest on the Kangaroo route on Qantas's Airbus A380 from London Heathrow to sydney via Singapore? All of us would love to see it!
Qantas is very expensive and time-consuming to fly, because of how far Australia is from where we live. So, at the moment it's unlikely we'll do that, because above the Kangoroo Route aboard the A380, our To-Do list has the LHR-PER B787 non-stop flight, which we'd want to try first. :)
As someone with an allergy to tree nuts (cashews, walnuts and pecans), can I say how refreshing it is that they offer something besides mixed nuts to go with the first beverage service? Granted, I rarely get to fly in first or business class, but sometimes I feel like it wouldn't be worth it, just because I'd be so nervous about accidentally eating something that would send me into anaphylactic shock. I've already gone through that one on a flight, and once was enough.
Your review is spot on. If you buy Saga and think you are getting a modern international business class product you will be very disappointed. If you see Saga as a nice premium economy product then it’s really good. My airport of choice to fly internationally is YYZ (Toronto Pierson). It’s only a 2 hour drive from my US home base, but the cost savings over flying from my local city are significant. Also I can often fly direct and that reduces the changes of problems along the way. I’ve used Iceland Air twice from trips to Europe and on one of those has a layover. I’m itching to get back to Iceland in winter for a week to have a descent chance at seeing the northern lights. The staff was always super friendly both on the ground and in the air. The airport was great to navigate. We were there back in 2016 when they had explosive growth. My wife needs assistance and they whisked her through the airport at breathtaking speed and efficiency. Since my flights are not really more than 5 hours the premium seating is super welcome for this tall adult. Full flat bed is nice, but on 4 to 5 hour flights, not that big of an advantage. On 6 plus hours … it’s a lovely experience. Not essential, but genuinely nice.
Yes, I definately agree... a good premium economy product. Personally though, the 737 is a bit too small for my liking when it comes to a transatlantic flight.
Literally 12 hours ago landed in Vancouver on Icelandair in economy class - it was fairly comfortable and the prepaid food was excellent. Very curious to see how Saga class looks and feels like.
Thanks for another comprehensive and straightforward review. I appreciate your channel for reviewing an airline without all of the annoying drama that is unfortunately rather common on too many aviation channels these days. 😊. Icelandic Saga Class looks quite comfortable me. The meals were certainly much better looking than the usual "dog food in the sky" choices offered on some legacy carriers. 😂 I would certainly consider Icelandic as a pleasant way to go from the U.S. to Europe if I wanted to spend a few days in Iceland. Take care and have a great autumn. 🍁 🍂
Oh dear, a 737 Max🙈🙈🙈 at least you kept all doors😂😂😂😂 the seats are good for the 4 hour flight in Europe, but bad for the 8 hour flight to Orlando. With the 757 it would have taken only 7 hours, but the 737 are so slow, please remove them from all longer flights.
I like the saga class. Also inside of saga lounge at the Iceland airport. You can go upstairs and at the reception there’s some model airplanes and then they’ll take you to a locker and you can pick one out to purchase. I guess they still have them there. I see some on the counter in this video. The pizza bites were delicious too.
Try TUI out of Hannover to Greece or Cyprus. I would love to hear you opinion about my Favorit Airline, but eyery 737 NG of TUIfly is configurated different.
A kind of service I really hope but doubt will pop up one day is "lay flat/no-thrills" offer, where the only perk comparing to the economy would be the the flat-reclining seats. Seriously, I can't bother less about the lounge, food and entertainment on board as I can all cover it by myself, but the stupid narrow economy seats is the main reason I feel so trashed on arrival after a transatlantic flight.
There is an airline that already does this! We have flown on it, but only in regular Economy, not the lie-flat premium seats upfront. Japanese low-cost carrier Zipair, a subsidiary of Japan Airlines, operates Boeing 787-8s with lie-flat seats up front, but does not include any service like meals, beverages, or lounge access. Just the lie-flat seats. Here's our Economy Class video about Zipair: th-cam.com/video/r2rUiw5lqoQ/w-d-xo.html
Not just are we the most transparent airline review channel in this regard, clearly stating the price of every flight we paid for, and if we collaborated with an airline in the description of every single one of our videos. I also vehemently disagree with the notion that a review becomes meaningless because the product was provided at no cost. Whether it's tech channels, auto magazines, or industry publications, it is completely normal to receive a product for free to test it. Many people support our effort to create as many in-depth reviews of airlines first-hand with financial contributions, and because of that it would be especially wasteful to spend lots of money to review a mid-sized airline's Business Class product. So when an airline decides it wants to be part of this mix of reviews by providing a free ticket, they always need to adhere to my conditions, which include that I can say what I want, and that's exactly what I did. This review was just as honest as if I had paid for the ticket. And you can tell that, because do you really think Icelandair gave me a free ticket with the intention of me calling it so clearly inferior that it should count as Premium Economy?
1:24 "we don't PLAY favourites here at all" 😅
What's up early gang Members!
Good
Thanks you @Simply Aviation for your flight report video! Now I can look more overseas country and airlines what they have. 🎉❤
Nice vid as always! 😊
Great trip report! Thank you for the video
1:58
I actually unsubscribed from Josh Chaill and Noel Phillips recently just because of what you said, we still fly in economy class because we want to stay relevant and don't want to cover just the meals and premium seats because most of us still fly in economy
Many channels concentrate on premium flights because they are collecting status and air miles which makes their future flights cheaper. I actually prefer the premium economy option depending on the airline as the ability to earn status is better per dollar than business class but not as expensive. It all depends on the airline. It pays to compare like for like. Even flying economy within Europe and buying lounge access makes more sense than business class a lot of the time.
josh still flies economy sometimes
Some vloggers will tell you that Business Class reports get more views than Economy Class videos.
I like variety from air travel content creators. Plus, I don’t think their intent is to show off how “rich” they are, they’re just sharing their experiences. That said, I don’t follow some of them because of how they go about their work and I don’t want to support them. So I’m glad you un-subbed from one of them there 😂
Noel Phillips has been pure click bait for the longest time.
Gotta love Icelandair! Never realized how far the MAX can fly...
Aerolineas Argentinas' 737 MAXes run diagrams from Buenos Aires to Punta Cana - about 8 hours, if I recall correctly.
@nerd2814 up to 9
Was just wondering whether there are actually people who went to Tempelhof airfield to get lounge access 😂…
14:30 That is one heavy 737
Underrated Ice Land Air
I would like to add that Denver has lounge access again. Icelandair uses the United lounge, but only if booked into Saga. It went away due to construction and the pandemic but lounge access is available again. As of a couple months ago.
Hmmm Iceland air seems pretty good
Thanks for posting another great trip report David! I think Iceland Air Saga class is an excellent product.
Could you please review virgin Australia on a domestic flight please :)
When is the Garuda Indonesia B777/Starlux Airlines brutally honest coming out?
Starlux quite soon, possibly in October. Garuda hasn't been filmed that long ago, so this will take a bit longer, probably early 2025.
I was thinking the same thing actually
Play favourites was a great quote! ❤❤❤❤
The airports delays to opening is a joke!
I can see why they don't call it Business Class. Those seats on the flight to Keflavik are, at best, Premium Economy seats. The second flight looked a bit better.
I surprise the 6 minutes transfer time including passport control can be done in KEF airport! However the transfer time might be longer in busier airports like LHR, AMS or CDG. Can anybody advise the minimum time required for transfer from international sector (1st leg) to another international sector (final leg) thanks.
Great video once again! I believe this is more or less an in-between choice between premium economy and business on transatlantic journeys and will definitely choose this over any premium economy if priced reasonably.
For regular flyers there are other factors especially if they are collecting status with an airline. For tourists it makes a good alternative especially if you like the idea of a stop to stretch your legs.
Damm I never been thus early also great trip report
I love the 737 max!
Seriously?
@@AnetaMihaylova-d6fWhy not? So do I, it’s a good airplane, great cabin, just let down by its own creator.
@magnustan841 tell that to 346 people killed in two horrific crashes ....
@@AnetaMihaylova-d6f Yeah, so that’s why I said “let down by its own creator”. If Boeing and the FAA did their jobs properly, we would see the MAX as just any other airplane right now. I ain’t ignoring how much they butchered the MAX development and production.
wow
Can you do a Brutally Honest on the Kangaroo route on Qantas's Airbus A380 from London Heathrow to sydney via Singapore? All of us would love to see it!
Qantas is very expensive and time-consuming to fly, because of how far Australia is from where we live. So, at the moment it's unlikely we'll do that, because above the Kangoroo Route aboard the A380, our To-Do list has the LHR-PER B787 non-stop flight, which we'd want to try first. :)
@@simply_aviationare u English ?
@@AnetaMihaylova-d6fthey are Austrian
@@ilmarilah1195Quantas is Australia’s National Airline
@@vignirgunnarhauksson1992BUT they are from Austria.. A European Country.
Yo members gang!!
Sucks that they don't serve vegetarian choices
Great trip report David!
basicly Icelandair Is the only airline that can justify flying 737s & 757s across the atlantic with plenty of margens to spare.
Can you try mavi gök airlines?
As someone with an allergy to tree nuts (cashews, walnuts and pecans), can I say how refreshing it is that they offer something besides mixed nuts to go with the first beverage service? Granted, I rarely get to fly in first or business class, but sometimes I feel like it wouldn't be worth it, just because I'd be so nervous about accidentally eating something that would send me into anaphylactic shock. I've already gone through that one on a flight, and once was enough.
Boeing and 737 Max😢! Brave. After all the mishaps, I would never set foot on a boeing for a longhaul flight. It's a ticking timebomb.
Their Saga class is still kilometres better than most inter-european business class.
The catering looks outstanding and the overall Saga product seems to hit the right spot 😊
Your review is spot on. If you buy Saga and think you are getting a modern international business class product you will be very disappointed. If you see Saga as a nice premium economy product then it’s really good. My airport of choice to fly internationally is YYZ (Toronto Pierson). It’s only a 2 hour drive from my US home base, but the cost savings over flying from my local city are significant. Also I can often fly direct and that reduces the changes of problems along the way. I’ve used Iceland Air twice from trips to Europe and on one of those has a layover. I’m itching to get back to Iceland in winter for a week to have a descent chance at seeing the northern lights. The staff was always super friendly both on the ground and in the air. The airport was great to navigate. We were there back in 2016 when they had explosive growth. My wife needs assistance and they whisked her through the airport at breathtaking speed and efficiency. Since my flights are not really more than 5 hours the premium seating is super welcome for this tall adult. Full flat bed is nice, but on 4 to 5 hour flights, not that big of an advantage. On 6 plus hours … it’s a lovely experience. Not essential, but genuinely nice.
Yes, I definately agree... a good premium economy product. Personally though, the 737 is a bit too small for my liking when it comes to a transatlantic flight.
Literally 12 hours ago landed in Vancouver on Icelandair in economy class - it was fairly comfortable and the prepaid food was excellent. Very curious to see how Saga class looks and feels like.
Still my favorite flight review channel. No other one even comes close to the quality and consistency you offer
Thanks for another comprehensive and straightforward review. I appreciate your channel for reviewing an airline without all of the annoying drama that is unfortunately rather common on too many aviation channels these days. 😊. Icelandic Saga Class looks quite comfortable me. The meals were certainly much better looking than the usual "dog food in the sky" choices offered on some legacy carriers. 😂 I would certainly consider Icelandic as a pleasant way to go from the U.S. to Europe if I wanted to spend a few days in Iceland. Take care and have a great autumn. 🍁 🍂
Oh dear, a 737 Max🙈🙈🙈 at least you kept all doors😂😂😂😂 the seats are good for the 4 hour flight in Europe, but bad for the 8 hour flight to Orlando. With the 757 it would have taken only 7 hours, but the 737 are so slow, please remove them from all longer flights.
I like the saga class. Also inside of saga lounge at the Iceland airport. You can go upstairs and at the reception there’s some model airplanes and then they’ll take you to a locker and you can pick one out to purchase. I guess they still have them there. I see some on the counter in this video. The pizza bites were delicious too.
Try TUI out of Hannover to Greece or Cyprus. I would love to hear you opinion about my Favorit Airline, but eyery 737 NG of TUIfly is configurated different.
Try cebu pacifics new a330-900 please :D
The footage for this video has already been filmed and will be out on our channel probably towards the end of 2024 or early 2025! :)
@@simply_aviation omg yay, thank you guys
The way he gently placed your bag on the belt… What a saint!
Nice review!
A kind of service I really hope but doubt will pop up one day is "lay flat/no-thrills" offer, where the only perk comparing to the economy would be the the flat-reclining seats. Seriously, I can't bother less about the lounge, food and entertainment on board as I can all cover it by myself, but the stupid narrow economy seats is the main reason I feel so trashed on arrival after a transatlantic flight.
There is an airline that already does this! We have flown on it, but only in regular Economy, not the lie-flat premium seats upfront. Japanese low-cost carrier Zipair, a subsidiary of Japan Airlines, operates Boeing 787-8s with lie-flat seats up front, but does not include any service like meals, beverages, or lounge access. Just the lie-flat seats. Here's our Economy Class video about Zipair: th-cam.com/video/r2rUiw5lqoQ/w-d-xo.html
737 max💀
Death plane
99% of airline review channels pay for their tickets, why not this one? Free ticket means review is meaningless.
Not just are we the most transparent airline review channel in this regard, clearly stating the price of every flight we paid for, and if we collaborated with an airline in the description of every single one of our videos. I also vehemently disagree with the notion that a review becomes meaningless because the product was provided at no cost. Whether it's tech channels, auto magazines, or industry publications, it is completely normal to receive a product for free to test it.
Many people support our effort to create as many in-depth reviews of airlines first-hand with financial contributions, and because of that it would be especially wasteful to spend lots of money to review a mid-sized airline's Business Class product.
So when an airline decides it wants to be part of this mix of reviews by providing a free ticket, they always need to adhere to my conditions, which include that I can say what I want, and that's exactly what I did. This review was just as honest as if I had paid for the ticket. And you can tell that, because do you really think Icelandair gave me a free ticket with the intention of me calling it so clearly inferior that it should count as Premium Economy?
If you want fake reviews, go watch Sam Chui.