Most gangster films try to show the characters as robin hood esque figures or separate the main character from the rest as the “good one” not this movie though…
@@J4sse SPOILER ALERT --- sometimes I like to think this scene and the following one in the car were just his opium dream- Notice how his eyes are closed 2:19 in the transition to the car... he is in a dream so he does things that have no consequences anyway? Yet if he's not dreaming he is most likely deciding to do something real bad at that moment
@@simonhilmoine1439 This movie haunts me because I shined so bright when I was younger and then faded into regret. Is old age just a sad remembrance of what we should have done? How Could I have known, I was then frivolous and immortal.
Such an extraordinary movie. Noddles was only motivated, all his life, by Deborah, maybe the true incarnation of the American dream, this great illusion,, impossible to seize, too pure, too magnificent for him.
They loved each other dont you think noodles carried what he did for years only movie but untouchable better than the god father even my second is the deer hunter
@@tommasovasta8323 For me, it is also the same metaphor as Claudia Cardinale, Jill, in Once upon a time in West, the pure incarnation of the American Dream and prosperity. And it is exactly the same idea in the Great Gatsby.
This is a tragic love story. Deborah was the only person who ever called him by his real name "David Aaronson", because she sees Noodles for the young, innocent boy she fell in love with. I think that Noodles was the product of his environment. He was intelligent and motivated by his impoverished, immigrant background to make a fortune. His talent and ambition happened to coincide with the beginnings of prohibition. He also was willing to work as an associate under Bugsy, but only decided to challenge him once Max interjected and formed an alliance with Noodles. Even though Noodles still made an effort to choose Deborah, over the gangster lifestyle, by telling Max he would rather spend the day with Deborah than stealing with his partner in crime, he is still sucked into the game. Bugsy pays them a visit and beats them to a pulp, serving as a barrier between Noodles and his childhood sweetheart.
This is one of the most memorable scenes along with the scene where she reasds the song of songs, and the one Dominick falls wounded by a shot from Patsy, and he said "Noodles, I slipped".... Sad sad.
Für das Gespräch am Ende des Films hat Robert de Niro mehr als einen Oscar verdient. Er bewahrt diese Freundschaft in seinem Herzen. Für Nuddels ist Max damals gestorben.
Gone with wind is bottom of the pack for me always once up a time in America stands tall much taller than any movie ever made the score alone is heart breaking and magic I listen to it at least twice a week
What really makes this scene uncomfortable (even before what happens later) is that Noodles is dominating the conversation and Deborah has this uncomfortable expression on her face. Plus, the fact that Noodles doesn’t even seem to realize it until she tells him she’s off to Hollywood just adds to how uncomfortable the scene is. Great acting by Robert De Niro and Elizabeth McGovern.
Sergio leone ,ennio morricone the masters of once upon a time in America they did make many films together but saved the best till last a true masterpiece god bless them both
@@saraandstuartshannon2160 True . . but in this case i think that sergio leone wanted to portray the character as an ambitious woman that doesn't care about love n staff which has its part to play in the one of the ending. Also him being a hateful asshole has its part in the other possible ending. Additionally I want to express that this was one of the most terrifying rape scenes I have seen in a movie.
Morricone's score is moving, in this scene, as in several in this film, it moves me. Many times I wished I had the power to travel back in time and could have lived at the time of its release, as well as having the ability for this film to receive the success it deserved at that time. But today in 2024, forty years after its premiere, I see that all of this is unnecessary, nothing can change what this masterpiece means to me.
What never ceases to puzzle me after this scene is that why didn't the cab driver stop the car earlier? She was screaming and begging for Noodles to stop in the backseat for at least two minutes.
I don't think you're meant to have sympathy for Noodles after he rapes Deborah. He was no better than his friends or their enemies when it comes to casual misogyny. The way the movie builds to this scene is brilliant: you see Noodles' life cycle up until that point and have sympathy for him. And then he goes and flushes it all down the toilet. This makes the audience feel almost as violated and betrayed as Deborah. The rape scene itself is insanely hard to watch because of this.
@@Solid_Snake99 I felt bad INITIALLY when she said she was going to Hollywood but not after he raped her. Nothing excuses for that. Noodles had some traits of misogyny in his childhood as well but he didn't cross the line until here.
My interpretation is that the entire date including the scene in the car are all part of the opium dream. The date is too perfect almost in a corny way that I as a man would imagine a dream date. Her reactions make me feel like she is just a reflection of his desires and fears, and when he ‘takes’ her and she resists, that is his own mind struggling with feelings of rejection, because he knows he is a punk. Even in his dreams he can’t have her. The driver doesn’t even speak and just leaves him alone in a dreamlike suburb. The driver is a reflection of his psyche judging what he has just done.
Deborah never loved Noodles. She liked the attention that he gave her. Deborah was right he is a hood, but she still played with his heart and gave him hope. He dreamed of being with her and loving her for years, and that final kiss that she gave him he snapped. She crushed his heart and he reacted the way a hood does, with violence. Such a masterclass in storytelling.
Alright I’m gonna say this this is one the best films EVER and my Grandads Favorite movie ever he was an old mustache from Chicago that dibbled in that life a bit Now I’m not justifying Noodles actions in any way shape or form …..but in the same breath….at this point Deborah has known about noodles feeling for her for well over a decade why TF would let him take you to a Dream like Dinner, lay in the grass with him while sharing feelings and drinking wine 🍷……,then “oh yea by the way noodles I’m leaving for Hollywood tomorrow and I’ll never see you again”….that’s almost literally the ultimate heartbreak 💔. Deborah didn’t deserve to get abused but she definitely deserves a slap in the face for that one and idgaf what ANYone has to say. My Grandpa had an old theory about this well b4 the internet era and told me when I was a kid that Deborah was this the True Villain of this epic saga and that her and max may (and probably were) fooling around the entire time after Noodles went to Jail and now that I’m 30 had my Fiancée die in a car crash when I was 21/22 and a couple more long term relationships go bad I completely agree with him, shout out to my Grandpa RIP and thanks for this Great clip
I`ll have to agree on that great story. Personally it`s one of my favorite movies of all time, and 2nd...your grandfather was right. Thanks for your mesage. It`s good when someone has something positive to write about this great romantic scene. That said......it`s only a movie, but it sure is one entertaining last masterpiece of the late great Leone.
Oh no bro thank you for posting this it the word masterpiece in film gets thrown around way to much these days, this actually deserves that rank one of my favorite films ever as well, if you’ve never seen Cool Hand Luke with Paul Newman that’s another old classic that doesn’t gets it’s just praise as well God bless man
And yea Sergio Leone is a fckn wizard I’m half Sicilian so obviously I like the guy 😂 I feel he doesn’t get enough credit either like guys like Kubrick and James Cameron do
Noodles was in prison 12 years and before that he and Deborah were children! When he got out he meet Deborah in the bar and second and last time in the restorant. Did noodles knew that Deborahs future plans? Yes. Did Deborah told him that she dodnt want to be locked in the cage before his poetic speech? Yes. Was Deborahs brother noodles childhood friend and did noodles went back to his house and ask him for coffee after he raped his sister? Yes so noodles was one bastard and Deborahs later life was not noodles business and he knew it. Sergio Leone was misogynist and hes work was treated badly because of it. Sorry not sorry
Because he got graped by a man she loved,trusted and who was her and her brothers friend. After that not only she was victim of SA but also she probably was robed from feelings such as love, trust.. she went on a date because she wanted to and in the book he begged her till she accepted so I believe it was same in the movie. She kissed him because she had romantic feelings towards him even though she didn’t wanted to be mafia wife.
@@bubabubu5395yes she ends up getting graped, but I think the scene is to show how Noodle never accepts no to something he wants, he wanted her love and she couldn't give it, so he forced it and ultimately found it was unsatisfying, and I think he probably wanted to screw her up so much she'd never love another man again, selfish I know but he's a monster and that's his sort of "if I can't have her then no one will" mentality
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33I read Leonel’s perspective. Noodles wanted to make her remember his existence forever. He thought that “beauty “ he offered her wasn’t going to stay in her mind forever and she would find better man so he made sure that he would haunt her forever. He loved her but he was also disgraceful bastard who didn’t spared anyone.
SeamHead33 You hit the nail on it`s head......i couldn`t understand it either, after 3 times a little bit. The music is also breathtaking. I have the bluray + the cd from this masterpiece.
Until you watch what happens five minutes later looool.
TheSealOfTheRose she should have been able to fight him off she's the same size as he is
Are you kidding? She DID try to fight him off.....Men are stronger than Women, that's a fact.
Sara Stevens he is a gangster who did time for murder! Not the sort of man you wanna fight!
@@sarastevens4948 there is no fucking way shes the same size hes heavier and more lot lot more muscular than her
@@chakir348 fuck max
The train station scene is one of the most beautiful scenes ever filmed. I just with the scene before could have been about...well anything else.
Most gangster films try to show the characters as robin hood esque figures or separate the main character from the rest as the “good one” not this movie though…
"Everynight i use to think about you. Now im gonna take advantage of you. in a few minutes."
Right!!!!!! Unfortunately that happen when some men think you are a trophy they can't win then they will take it.
I think good old noodles picked up some bad habits when he was in prison.
Noodles made some stupid fucking life decisions.
Noodles should've just taken the kiss, driven the rest of the way home in silence, dropped her off wished her good luck n good night then dangled.
@@J4sse SPOILER ALERT --- sometimes I like to think this scene and the following one in the car were just his opium dream- Notice how his eyes are closed 2:19 in the transition to the car... he is in a dream so he does things that have no consequences anyway? Yet if he's not dreaming he is most likely deciding to do something real bad at that moment
This movie is a master piece. so many scenes hits you right in the heart. You can just feel this movie in your body..
Themes of memory and regret. We all wish we made the choices then that made for a better now.
@@samwilliams3837 you are right sam.
@@simonhilmoine1439 This movie haunts me because I shined so bright when I was younger and then faded into regret. Is old age just a sad remembrance of what we should have done? How Could I have known, I was then frivolous and immortal.
@@samwilliams3837Best movie buddy, hope you are okay.
Such an extraordinary movie. Noddles was only motivated, all his life, by Deborah, maybe the true incarnation of the American dream, this great illusion,, impossible to seize, too pure, too magnificent for him.
They loved each other dont you think noodles carried what he did for years only movie but untouchable better than the god father even my second is the deer hunter
This movie is "The Great Gatsby" cinematic version.
@@tommasovasta8323 For me, it is also the same metaphor as Claudia Cardinale, Jill, in Once upon a time in West, the pure incarnation of the American Dream and prosperity. And it is exactly the same idea in the Great Gatsby.
He loved Deborah but also loved Max/ lifestyle...he had to choose between the 2 and did not...he lost both
This is a tragic love story. Deborah was the only person who ever called him by his real name "David Aaronson", because she sees Noodles for the young, innocent boy she fell in love with. I think that Noodles was the product of his environment. He was intelligent and motivated by his impoverished, immigrant background to make a fortune. His talent and ambition happened to coincide with the beginnings of prohibition. He also was willing to work as an associate under Bugsy, but only decided to challenge him once Max interjected and formed an alliance with Noodles. Even though Noodles still made an effort to choose Deborah, over the gangster lifestyle, by telling Max he would rather spend the day with Deborah than stealing with his partner in crime, he is still sucked into the game. Bugsy pays them a visit and beats them to a pulp, serving as a barrier between Noodles and his childhood sweetheart.
This is one of the most memorable scenes along with the scene where she reasds the song of songs, and the one Dominick falls wounded by a shot from Patsy, and he said "Noodles, I slipped".... Sad sad.
I'm assuming you meant a shot from bugsy, cuz patsy was running ahead of Dominic at that time
Also the scene when Noodles finds out Max is alive
😂😂 he looks as pissed the hell off riding in the car as he did when Henry in Goodfellas was in the courtroom pointing fingers
Once upon a time in America surpasses every film ever made it's better than the god father which is my third best film second is the deer hunter
Elizabeth is one of the most beautiful women alive 😍😍
This movie is so Fuckn tragic and Underrated
It really is the ultimate tale of heartbreak and Betrayal
Idc what anyone says
Watch your language, it gives me nausea
@@so70aeiouif swearing gives you nausea, you would propley vomit all over the floor if you watched the movie
It's a universally tragic tale of choices made. The older/wiser you get, the more regret, but it's not the end. Lessons learned for the Afterlife.
It’s has like 5 themes in one entire film..it’s so good and so sad it makes a grown man cry
Für das Gespräch am Ende des Films hat Robert de Niro mehr als einen Oscar verdient.
Er bewahrt diese Freundschaft in seinem Herzen.
Für Nuddels ist Max damals gestorben.
My favourite film of all times..with Gone With the Wind...masterpiece...
Gone with wind is bottom of the pack for me always once up a time in America stands tall much taller than any movie ever made the score alone is heart breaking and magic I listen to it at least twice a week
Think your gone with the fairy's on second film pmsl
And then Noodles slipped.
Love is a crazy thing
Miss Alina well she was going to leave him anyway...
@@LogicMind99 Thst was Lust Not Love.
You are right he did slip big time
@@deannamarin318 yes it seems that way it was wrong but still he did love her without a doubt
"Nessuno ti amera' mai quanto t' ho amato io"!!! Bellissimo!
Già, lo stupro, massima manifestazione d'amore.
What really makes this scene uncomfortable (even before what happens later) is that Noodles is dominating the conversation and Deborah has this uncomfortable expression on her face. Plus, the fact that Noodles doesn’t even seem to realize it until she tells him she’s off to Hollywood just adds to how uncomfortable the scene is. Great acting by Robert De Niro and Elizabeth McGovern.
You just can't get this ever again nothing compares to it's out of this world
Sergio leone ,ennio morricone the masters of once upon a time in America they did make many films together but saved the best till last a true masterpiece god bless them both
Don't put a woman on pedestal who you are not sure about her feelings
She loved him. Women like a good chase, but he was an idiot
@@saraandstuartshannon2160 how do it just seems like she was dragging him on
Realist statement I've heard in a while
@@saraandstuartshannon2160 True . . but in this case i think that sergio leone wanted to portray the character as an ambitious woman that doesn't care about love n staff which has its part to play in the one of the ending. Also him being a hateful asshole has its part in the other possible ending. Additionally I want to express that this was one of the most terrifying rape scenes I have seen in a movie.
@@Sokratimba Death Wish rape scene is worse
Morricone's score is moving, in this scene, as in several in this film, it moves me. Many times I wished I had the power to travel back in time and could have lived at the time of its release, as well as having the ability for this film to receive the success it deserved at that time. But today in 2024, forty years after its premiere, I see that all of this is unnecessary, nothing can change what this masterpiece means to me.
What never ceases to puzzle me after this scene is that why didn't the cab driver stop the car earlier? She was screaming and begging for Noodles to stop in the backseat for at least two minutes.
I know.
Noodles is a mob boss
Eduardo Solis Sariego He wasn’t a mob boss.
Noodles was part of a crew who didn’t really have a boss and did their own crimes together.
Michael Terrell II Why not?
Michael Terrell II I don’t agree with that.
The last of The true movie mastetpieces! And possibly the greatest of them all!And
I agree
Brazil came out the year after
You just had to ruin it, Noodles...
The Black Lodger she was leaving him anyway...
Solid_Snake Are you saying it was ok for the jee to rape her?
Solid_Snake Are you saying it was ok for the jou to rape her?
Solid_Snake Jew*
Yes!!...stupid and insane Noodles!! What was he f&#* thinking when he raped his BELOVED?? 😱🥺
Heartbreaking
Only leone deniro and the music score can have us sympathize w an evil character.
I don't think you're meant to have sympathy for Noodles after he rapes Deborah. He was no better than his friends or their enemies when it comes to casual misogyny. The way the movie builds to this scene is brilliant: you see Noodles' life cycle up until that point and have sympathy for him. And then he goes and flushes it all down the toilet. This makes the audience feel almost as violated and betrayed as Deborah. The rape scene itself is insanely hard to watch because of this.
@@Solid_Snake99 I felt bad INITIALLY when she said she was going to Hollywood but not after he raped her. Nothing excuses for that. Noodles had some traits of misogyny in his childhood as well but he didn't cross the line until here.
@@Solid_Snake99 do you are trying zo tell that it was okey that Noodles raped her ? Wtf dude!
@@Solid_Snake99 I wonder if you will say the same thing if it happened to your mom,sister, daughter or wife
@@Kookosbanaani94 Noodles didn't know how to express himself to a woman that's why it ends up as it is.
This can make me weep...for days to end... =(
You say those words when you are in love.
Im sure like this scene its happened to many a man. A woman you love and adore and would do anything for.... Just walks and thats that 👏
Just happened to me
That's why god invented the alpha male strategy channel. To understand how to deal with that suffering.
@@Grafiction Damn right
Amen to that.
It is true...i so rhe girl of my heart years later...las time in 1989.
The best movie ever made or ever will be it's in my heart
Thank you for liking what I said
And 5 minutes later noodles ruined everything.
He didn't ruin anything. She wanted the D and she got it.
@@anycolouryoulike8567
N an XXXciting way, where she could b absolved of most of DUH guilt/maintain her lofty, moral hi-ground.
GOAT Actor-
"Robert de Niro".
1:50 - 1:55 aaand she broke his heart
FILM OF FILMS .
My interpretation is that the entire date including the scene in the car are all part of the opium dream.
The date is too perfect almost in a corny way that I as a man would imagine a dream date. Her reactions make me feel like she is just a reflection of his desires and fears, and when he ‘takes’ her and she resists, that is his own mind struggling with feelings of rejection, because he knows he is a punk. Even in his dreams he can’t have her.
The driver doesn’t even speak and just leaves him alone in a dreamlike suburb. The driver is a reflection of his psyche judging what he has just done.
You know how important that was to me... 💔
MASTER PIECE !!!!!
You just got a sub my guy
This Movie 🎥 is Great in Every Sense
The Music is So Haunting it Reminds me of My Princess 👸 that is in Heaven
Deborah never loved Noodles. She liked the attention that he gave her. Deborah was right he is a hood, but she still played with his heart and gave him hope. He dreamed of being with her and loving her for years, and that final kiss that she gave him he snapped. She crushed his heart and he reacted the way a hood does, with violence.
Such a masterclass in storytelling.
All I can say, is that The rape scenes in this movie are shocking.
¿"Escena de amor"? Él abusó de ella . . .
wonderful
cuantos recuerdos cuanta noltagia y al final casi todos quedamos solos POR QUE
The greatest movie ever in every scene in that movie has a great great meaning
Lovely deborah.. I writing to Türkiye in İstanbul city..
and then he got what he needed to get… hot lovey dovey… I only wish it had been an older Jennifer Connelly.
She betray him hard with his boy max that shit was crazy it took him years to figure she could have got with another guy he no problem but max dam
Who’s worse; Deborah or Jenny from Forrest Gump?
Noodles be given debby that bad noodle..😐
The scene after that always felt out of place, for Noodles character and for the 60s part.
Alright I’m gonna say this this is one the best films EVER and my Grandads Favorite movie ever he was an old mustache from Chicago that dibbled in that life a bit
Now I’m not justifying Noodles actions in any way shape or form …..but in the same breath….at this point Deborah has known about noodles feeling for her for well over a decade why TF would let him take you to a Dream like Dinner, lay in the grass with him while sharing feelings and drinking wine 🍷……,then “oh yea by the way noodles I’m leaving for Hollywood tomorrow and I’ll never see you again”….that’s almost literally the ultimate heartbreak 💔.
Deborah didn’t deserve to get abused but she definitely deserves a slap in the face for that one and idgaf what ANYone has to say.
My Grandpa had an old theory about this well b4 the internet era and told me when I was a kid that Deborah was this the True Villain of this epic saga and that her and max may (and probably were) fooling around the entire time after Noodles went to Jail and now that I’m 30 had my Fiancée die in a car crash when I was 21/22 and a couple more long term relationships go bad
I completely agree with him, shout out to my Grandpa RIP and thanks for this Great clip
I`ll have to agree on that great story. Personally it`s one of my favorite movies of all time, and 2nd...your grandfather was right. Thanks for your mesage. It`s good when someone has something positive to write about this great romantic scene.
That said......it`s only a movie, but it sure is one entertaining last masterpiece of the late great Leone.
Oh no bro thank you for posting this it the word masterpiece in film gets thrown around way to much these days, this actually deserves that rank one of my favorite films ever as well, if you’ve never seen Cool Hand Luke with Paul Newman that’s another old classic that doesn’t gets it’s just praise as well God bless man
And yea Sergio Leone is a fckn wizard I’m half Sicilian so obviously I like the guy 😂 I feel he doesn’t get enough credit either like guys like Kubrick and James Cameron do
Noodles was in prison 12 years and before that he and Deborah were children! When he got out he meet Deborah in the bar and second and last time in the restorant. Did noodles knew that Deborahs future plans? Yes. Did Deborah told him that she dodnt want to be locked in the cage before his poetic speech? Yes. Was Deborahs brother noodles childhood friend and did noodles went back to his house and ask him for coffee after he raped his sister? Yes so noodles was one bastard and Deborahs later life was not noodles business and he knew it. Sergio Leone was misogynist and hes work was treated badly because of it. Sorry not sorry
Great
CAPOLAVORO 👍👍👍👍
BRAVISSIMO 👍👍👍👍
super
Robert Deniro at he's best, probably The Greatest Actor of All time
Paradise lost
Err Romantic?
LEONE, MORRICONE, DE NIRO 😢
And then...ol noodles...slipped her the ol udon noodle!
I'd be a little scared if someone loved me like that. It almost sounds as if he worships her. So much for love, cause he raped her afterward. T.T
Claire Mitzuki i mean she was leaving him....
@@Solid_Snake99 there’s no excuse for rape
ppl can love profoundly without acting criminally.
Brave.
💖💖💖
That’s true love.
What Deborah did was the biggest treason in movie history. I think she's worse than Max in that regard. That said, Noodles had it coming.
It was not revenge.more like a payback.but yeah noodles had it coming.
Perfect dialogue, I’m gonna learn it and say it to the girl I love, she won’t resist 😈😛
And if she says "I'm gonna leave" you know what to do on a taxi
And what happens if she acts like the first one that gets it in the film (Carol iirc)?
And then they made sweet passionate love.
Hahahaha
If only!
Shoulda went dat way.
She friendzoned a gangsta.
LOL!!!
Lmfao 🤣 fucked up
Yeah, romantic isn't it? What could possibly go wrong.
Why does everyone feel so bad for Deborah and what happens to her?
She should not have accepted his date and later tried to kiss him.
Because he got graped by a man she loved,trusted and who was her and her brothers friend. After that not only she was victim of SA but also she probably was robed from feelings such as love, trust.. she went on a date because she wanted to and in the book he begged her till she accepted so I believe it was same in the movie. She kissed him because she had romantic feelings towards him even though she didn’t wanted to be mafia wife.
Your question is so retarded.
Especially if you’re a woman asking that.
@@bubabubu5395yes she ends up getting graped, but I think the scene is to show how Noodle never accepts no to something he wants, he wanted her love and she couldn't give it, so he forced it and ultimately found it was unsatisfying, and I think he probably wanted to screw her up so much she'd never love another man again, selfish I know but he's a monster and that's his sort of "if I can't have her then no one will" mentality
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33I read Leonel’s perspective. Noodles wanted to make her remember his existence forever. He thought that “beauty “ he offered her wasn’t going to stay in her mind forever and she would find better man so he made sure that he would haunt her forever. He loved her but he was also disgraceful bastard who didn’t spared anyone.
Beutiful but reap scene must cut of in movie
Nah man that scene shows noodles in his true nature. If leone cut the rape scenes ( 2 of noodles ) the noodles story of love would be shit.
@@inbrooken5602 2? When is the other 1?
@@fadeladam1130 when they Rob the diamonds, max says "would you put a cork in her"
It was all ruined cause of the damn scene that followed
שִׁיר הַשִּׁירִים
And now in english please?
The dialogue is taken from the Shir hashirim "song of songs" or song of salomon
***** Thanks, i knew that....saw this masterpiece about 16 times.
10 times is the minimum to understand what this movie is about. such a masterpiece
SeamHead33 You hit the nail on it`s head......i couldn`t understand it either, after 3 times a little bit. The music is also breathtaking. I have the bluray + the cd from this masterpiece.