Dolphins In Depth: Dolphins Have Fallen. Can They Get Up?
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- The Miami Dolphins have gotten off to a disastrous start in 2024, losing three straight games during a stretch when the team is playing without Tua Tagovailoa. But is there any end in sight for the offense's struggles, which continued with Tyler Huntley as the starting quarterback in Monday night's 31-12 loss to the Tennessee Titans? Odell Beckham Jr. and Isaiah Wynn are among the offensive players who could be returning to the lineup this week. Can either of those veterans help Miami? Omar Kelly and Barry Jackson discussed that and many more topics in Monday's episode of the Miami Herald's Dolphins in Depth podcast.
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We looked terrible with Tua against Buffalo. Tua makes a small difference but not much
This team has deeper issues than QB. Even with Tua this team is not good.
Psssst . . . hey Omar . . . Tua threw 3 INT's against Buffalo, struggled to get past the Jags and last year couldn't beat a decent team (5 FG's against Dallas doesn't count). Tua was never the answer and never will be.
Lol the pro Tua crowd is comparing him to undrafted practice squad players. lol of course he better than them. That doesn't make him good
I agree.
Omar is a Tua apologist.
Every time Tua has a concussion his fans get the symptoms. They forget he can’t beat any good teams anyways when he does play.
Barry is spot on when talking about first half of bills game. The tua excuses are so old and exhausting. This offense has been shot since Dallas last year, and that includes Tua.
The F'ing O-line is trash!!!! Doesn't matter what QB you have they can't run block or pass block
The Dolphins brought in Mcdaniel to build a safe space for Tua and to that extent he's been successful. The only winner here is Tua's confidence and bank account. Everything else has taken a drastic step in the wrong direction.
Drastic? Who do you want back? Gase? Philbin? Come on.
@@RVBOOS you left out Flores
Omar is a joke excusing Tuas THREE PICKS
I guess forgot you need a O line
@@danielbrian3115 go into detail on those three picks😑 two backups and one ain’t know his route and the other bounced of a shoulder and one was just on Tua where he ain’t put enough to throw it out of bounds so if you watched the game it’s not and excuse it’s a clear explanation
McDaniel is the problem. Period
AND GRIER. Are you that blind?
SELL AT THE DEADLINE!! This team is done. Holland isn't getting resigned, trade him now before we lose him for nothing. Try trading Tyreek, Ramsey, Mostert and anyone you can with value. Get as many picks as you can, and take the cap hits the next 2 years. Teddy Bridgwater? Ryan Tannehill? Jimmy G? This team is awful fundamentally. It doesn't matter who the qb is or what plays are called in the huddle because they can't stop beating themselves. We can't block, we can't catch, we have slightly above average qb play when Tua is in, and the roster is old. I don't understand the logic in trying to salvage this season when we're going on the road alot the back half of the year. Just cut your losses and take your medicine now instead of continuing to kick the can down the road with this failed experiment. We're too small, too old, too poorly coached and too soft. Move on
Facts
All over paid and north of 30 years old, good luck with a trade.
This franchise is a disgrace
The logic is the LOSERS want to save their jobs and Stephen Ross is asleep at the wheel.
Spot on bro. Stack draft picks and get a new GM, because I cannot trust Grier to make the correct picks. Holland is good, but not worth the salary he is going to command in my opinion.
Been a Dolphin fan since 1968. Last night was embarrassing and there should be people fired over that debacle
Been a fin fan from 1966 until now but my old heart just can't take it anymore. This franchise is horrible and it will be nfl red zone from here on out
I have no faith in laziness. Clean house.
Fins letting Wilkins walk for nothing and not resigning Van Ginkle has come back to bite them as I predicted. The axe should fall on Chris Grier. Smh
McDaniel s showed as much emotions as the Dolphins scored. Not much !
I could literally run through the dolphins organization and lay everyone out with a steel chair with no sympathy 🤦🏽♂️, and how is reek mad on the sideline like bro you started us off with bullsh*t and didn’t put effort on getting the ball you dropped with no whistle blown😑 and for some reason waddle always has butter fingers when it comes to catching a pass with significance like bro are you serious 🤦🏽♂️ throw this season in the trash and go get cam bro I’m done, force Tua to retire and enjoy his family,health and generational wealth bruh and let’s start the rebuild before it’s too late man this is pathetic and get rid of McDaniel with this hard to learn trash playbook
Agreed 100% . Time to fire coaches , players and Grier . Enough of this bs , we deserve better .
They always talking about this playbook, whats so hard they only run 8 plays out of it even Tua
His play is filled with dozens of screen plays
@@louiscaesar8981 it’s really annoying
Can They Get Up? Hell No....that would require solid leadership which this organization has ZERO. Ownership, Front Office, Coaching are totally incapable and now many players are putting forth a wildly unacceptable level of effort. The young fool that is Mike McDaniels stated that this is the players team. I guess that absolves him of coaching them so that they don't have 10 penalties, don't know the plays, don't know how to line up, don't know how to get off a play before the play clock becomes an issue, mouth off on the sideline, put forth a lackluster effort. What a disgrace this team is. Let me remind Devon Achane that he is getting paid... his lack of effort is disgusting and a real organization would take care of this crap. Very few real men in this organization. And NO...Tua ultimately makes no difference. In fact his tendency towards injury is indicative of roughly half of this team. Great job with player procurement. The absolute worst organization in the NFL. And while we're at it...let's sign a bunch of these clowns to contract extensions to make the problem continue for years into the future. This is a CLOWN SHOW!
Barry spitting facts all around! Let's not pretend this offense was gashing defenses before Tua went down. It has struggled. This trend goes back to last year.
My hunch is Tua is going to suffer another injury not necessarily a concussion. He'll be back with the record 1-5 and feel the pressure to play hero ball again and expose his body to danger.
Anyone thinking Tua can fix this team is crazy . Don’t forget Tua couldn’t beat a good team, lost the division anyway at the end of the season and never shows up in big games .
The team coudnt beat good teams tyreek drops in big games. McDaniel can't adjust his play calling is predictable. Most injuries of any team last year .went into the playoffs missing 8 starters
Jullian Hill is a waste of a roster spot. Tyreek and Waddle with too many drops.
Say what you want but this team has quit on Mike McDaniel.
OBJ won't be returning to this team
SALTY BARRY!!!! Hell yeah!
100% Agree with Barry. Blow this S up. Grier, McDaniel gone and take Tua with them. Horrible roster construction.
Fire Grier and McDaniel and trade your players . I'm pretty sure half of NFL teams will be willing to give at least 3 first for an elite QB as TUA is 😂 .
Real issue. McDaniel is running his same complex offense with new players who cannot do that. Hence the many penalties. McDaniel is infected with a professional disease called Gase Narcissism. An inability to change behavior due to an inflated ego. A refusal to change one's mind or course of action. If Mike is not back next year; he has only himself to blame.
So Hill and Waddle are not enough? We need to wait until there is a third WR to expect a TD anytime soon. This is becoming laughable.
Obj is on the pdiddy list, and u guys know this. So, report it correctly
💯.....Smart man....but they were told not to mention it.
Chris "Chuckles the Clown" Grier has to go. Anyone remember when we had road graders Connor Williams and Robert Hunt?
Omar, you question whether Eric Ezukama or Durham Smythe contributing more are answers but you suggest that they should call Teddy Bridgewater? Also you were puzzled when they cut Chosen. C'mon.
Gomar going overboard that they call Teddy Bridgewater makes me question whether he knows as much as he constantly tries to tell us he does! That guy was AWFUL and he played the game with less enthusiasm than even Jay Cutler (who Gomar constantly ripped for effort). Teddy NOT ONE time looked like he even wanted to be there, much less play!! That statement was a JOKE!!!
Oh Omar.... Thompson had THREE YEARS to learn the offense and he was incompetent. Of coure he shouldn't start again.
Omar I was mad at you back when u said we were a loser franchise but today I applaud you for stating a fact when no one else wanted to believe it was still the case! Hats off to you my friend!
Omar also said Tua was the next best while he was in college. 🤷🏾♂️🫡
Nah Omar is an idiot
Omar and the doofus dolphin fanbase are adorable. Seems like yesterday they were gods gift to football.
Anyone who said your little dork coach was out of his depth was laughed at 😂😂
Haha the state of you fools!
Guys , according to the Gridiron MD the Miami Dolphins rebuild led By CHRIS GRIER since 2020, paints a troubling picture out of 33 draft picks 45 % are no longer on the Team 36 % have been relegated to back up roles only 18 % became starters and a mere 3 % reached the pro bowl
Look at the bright side, no more offensive endzone TD celebrations!
Omar, I get that Chosen is one of your man crushes, but he sucks, let it go.
What about put Lamm at guard instead of Jones?
O-line is absolute dog sh*t, no qb will succeed. I dont even think tua will when he comes back. We can't run block either. This season is toast. Grier needs to get fired for incompetence, and McDaniel needs to be considered as well. The dude is stubborn af and can't adjust. He panics whenever trailing, and his play calling has been abysmal. Ross either needs to sell or clean the house and just start over with a complete rebuild. Trade Tyreek, Mostert, Ramsey, Chubb, and all the bridge players.
The incompetency from the entire organization is mind blowing. But I put most blame on Tua and our over rated inexperienced head coach. The disgusting look Tua had on his face while ESPN kept showing him on the side line. Couldn’t help notice that Tua knew it was his fault and McDaniel for having Tua in the game at that time when there was no way we were going to win that game. Cut Tua now. Fire McDoddle. Tank for Ward.
Boyle has looked the best out of the three since Tua went down. Did you watch the Seattle game? He had a couple of great passes dropped including Smyth in the end zone. You keep on saying he's the worst quarterback in NFL history well it's apparent that two are worse than him, Huntley and Thompson
The Finz got us feeling like Drake fans post not like us...😩😩😩😩😆🤣😂#FinzUp Is it time to bring Flores back?
I think the OBJ signing was they thought they would be 5-1...6-1 when he was ready to go...to add punch to offense.....1-3 wasn't in picture....my opinion....I'm just a 52 year old fan and a die hard fan since 1983........they AND WE......DID NOT see this coming.........either way, as usual.....PHINS UP!
I was expecting the loss in Seattle even with Tua. Cross country against a playoff team was never going to be easy. Dolphins should be 2-2 right now. The problem is just how awful the offense looks in terms of momentum. Dolphins O is DOA.
We're right on track. Every 3 years this team falls apart and there's only one underlying factor and it's at the top. Who hire the inexperienced head coaches, who then show their inexperience. Who is responsible for building the team, even if the head coaches contribute with their input? Until that changes, nothing else will.
Fire McDaniel and Grier, hire Mike vrabel to bring a physical mind set to this team and draft your franchise Qb in the upcoming draft.
C'mon, Omar. If you really think Tua is the knight in shining armor this team needs, then i have to question hiw closely you really watch this team. They're soft! Unprepared. Undisciplined. One dimensional. And, just plain disinterested at times (particularly on offense). This starts at the top. The team's about to quit on McDaniel. He gotta go. Poor roster construction. Poor usage of draft picks. Soft ass team. Grier gotta go. It starts with them, but that's just the beginning. Waayyy more problems than just the qb room.
Drafting better OL kick Chris Chuckles out at GM we need better
How about they use what they have within the context of a logical offense that makes the most of the talent that already is there? WTF..,
Barry bringing the heat this episode. 100% hit the mark.
Barry is on fire!!! Love it!
Omar you are wrong about the Buffalo game. Barry is right
Man Barry was generous giving them 7 wins.
Why wont Ross fire anyone??
PRAY FOR NEW OWNERSHIP!
Grier is 100% responsible for this disaster. He laughed at us for being concerned about the IOL and the backup QB position. I wonder if he’s laughing now?
You guys know, way more about football than I, but I've been a a fan over 50 years of the Miami Dolphins. So I'm begging, please try to find any help along the offensive line? Because it's my personal opinion that it won't matter with this line the way it is
Stop with the excuses for Thompson every time he’s played it’s looked like that. He’s been in that offense for 3 years now. He’s sorry
The dolphins were snake-bitten for the Bills game by Hill's police incident, and now they are paying the price.
Omar you are funny bro tua through three 3 interceptions and you making excuses for tua Barry keep taking facts Omar is so blind i don't think he is watching the game tua has been playing like trash the last 8 games Barry you are right brother
Look at the Vikings right now and then look at Miami with Tua “Flores hurt my feelings” Tagulavia. We have been the undisputed softest franchise for well over 20 years now I don’t care if we have a winning record or not. Everytime we go against someone when it counts we voluntarily bend over.
The Vikings haven't been in a sb ,in 47 yrs,
Barry is just telling like it truly is! "Thats so Dolphins"....
Teddy Bridgewater is your answer???? Are you kidding me??
Of course you did Omar you’re so sharp!
G-D bless Barry Jackson... Speaks for the people
Is it any surprise, no tight ends , no offensive line, no interior lineman
no guys, it's not even close to a team with a playoff roster...
Barry Jackson is just brilliant love his rant at the end
How good Tua is?
What have you been watching? 🤔
We've dominated some teams rebuilding. He has a horrible record against good teams.
Brian Flores might have gone about it wrong, but he was right about Tua.
Dude is so fkn clueless its incredible he makes a living as a Dolphins reporter
Media needs to stop asking soft ball questions!
Spot on .Ty..!
Omar loves it when the Dolphins are bad
The problem for him is that now everybody agrees with him so he can no longer play outsider. It’s just another voice.
Regardless, I still love his content and to his credit, he was the first one sounding the alarm bells over the offensive line. And then everybody jumped on his bandwagon.
What’re you talking about everyone spoke about the line during the offseason, Omar Kelly is the worst of journalism and what it has to offer
Mathematically, they are still in the hunt. 14 - 3 is a not so shabby record, however it is also mathematically possible to bowl a 300 in CandlePin or Duckpin bowling with Former President Obama on your bowling team.
😂 new math 🤣
So glad to be a Bills fan and it is amazing to see how fast a franchise can slide. I should be sorry for you guys but I am not
For the first time in my life (been a fan since 1980) I'm actively routing for the Dolphins to lose. If it's a 5 win season, Ross should feel pressure to make big changes.
Garrappalo could play here. Russell could tannahill could. But yes, offensive line is terrible. These are all better passers. Although Mac Jones being terrible thus far could as he and Tua manage the same. And with Bill his rookie year went to Playoffs. Until the following year they where gutted and he had not team left. Then bill left. Grear needs to act quick to salvage.
If he doesn't get a real qb, he's gone,
Omar or Barry please please read this. Please read this.
Can you please do an article looking on the following which was laid out by Ace per Head an excellent dolphins analysis?
1. How many probowl players has Chris Grier selected through draft since 2020?
Answer 1 Tua
2. What is the percentage of probowl selected player through draft since 2020 draft? Answer 3 percent
3. How many players from the 2020 draft are still on the team? Answer 2
4. What are the number of players percentage wise that are on the team that were selected through the draft and contributing to the team now?
Answer 18 percent.
Chris Grier and the front office are the real problem with the team please please review ace per Head latest video
The defensive teams that we still have to play tua. gonna get rocked again
The problem is Tua always have bad games against good teams. we understand sometimes QB's have bad games, the problem is every time Tua plays a good team he has a bad game what does that tell you????
Well considering recent evidence, it tells me that the team and playcalling aren't good enough to compete against good teams.
Becham is on the P Diddy’s the Diddler Freak Off parties list so he’s possibly not playing anytime soon
Do they still have to pay him,lol
Barry easily won this one!
That’s usually the case, Omar can’t debate
I don’t think tua is the answer , look what happened at Buffalo nothing
There is a large contingent of fanatical Tua fans who will never be able to admit that putting up big stats against bad teams doesn't make him an elite QB.
Sale the team and get somebody who wants us to be champions again!!!!!!! Fire Greer fire McDaniel's!!!! Start Boyle now!!!! This Dolphin team has disappeared!!!!! They remind me of an expansion team!!!! I have been a Dolphin fan from their infancy since 1966!!!! This team is worse then they were in 1966!!!!! I love my team like family but this is got to change !!!!!!
Watching film, there are receivers open in almost every play. It seems the QB is instructed to only throw to Hill and Waddle.
Omar Kelly is lucky he’s able to weasel his way into sports journalism presently, no way this guy would have sniffed it during its glory days.
Simple answer first 3 quarters almost no forward passes or runs. Hill didn’t get enough grabs. McDanieals fault
Big physical men need a leader of same/similar stature and pedigree as they have (former player). Tom Brady made New England successful not the coach. The last coach that brought us to a Superbowl was a formal NFL player, Don Shula (Browns, Colts, Redskins). Even Jimmy J (non NFL player) couldn't lead the team to any great success.
Tyreek don't waste your good years with Miami . Get out soon and get with a Super Bowl contender.
I'm over this season already. Let's be a top 5 pick.
Tyler looks better than Teddy...and Teddy was hurt most of the time.
If the QB(s) can't get the ball to Hill and Waddle and Jonnu Smith, what makes you think they will get the ball to OBJ?
What will start to fix it is fire Grier and hire a competent GM that knows how to build an NFL roster.
Offense is too complicated. Qb never has time to read the defense and change plays, has to spend all that time orchestrating motions to make the coach look like some genius. It's Adam Gase all over again.
McDaniels says....Adversity is a Blessing.....😅
Barrry, why,why,why....... Why not ask mike,all these questions, that U are askin Why?. We hear u askin, plenty of questions,"BUT" U dont ask all these questions, when ur on the spot,or in da room wit Mike... 😮😮😮😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂😂
FIRE CHRIS GRIER!!!!!
PLEASE
Barry, that ball that Huntley overthrew Hill with went 63 yards. If Tua was in, it would have gone 50 yards max and been intercepted. Tua is NOT the answer.
Dee Eskridge was a 2nd round pick, not a 4th Omar. Just wanted to clarify that. Omar is still getting schooled. From Poupart to Barry 😂
Nobody thought Tyler was Lamar ...but he would have been much more effective if McDaniels would have drawn more plays for him to run...This Offense has been trash this season with or without Tua
I'm glad other people are also calling out Omar for not recognizing that Tua was not performing at a high level when he was in earlier this year nor against good team EVER. He is clearly not the answer, and since this season is already flushed down the toilet, the best course of action is to tank and get a qb prospect with proper ability to run and throw in today's NFL. Honestly, I can't watch another wimpy Tua performance against a good team. Enough! Omar, get a clue.
If you want another weapon, scratch around the bottom of the barrel and dig the lost change out of the sofa cushions, and go get Devonta Adams from Vegas. He wants out and they want him out. Give em the draft picks and throw Skylar Thompson in as a bonus because their starting QB is a bonafide #2 at best. So they might take another #3
why is the de-fence playing so bad they have let the other team score so many points they should be blitzing the the other team to death plus you have the best rb's and there not using them
you have to get everybody on the same page
Great accessment on the dolphins today this organization has been disappointing for decades 😞😞😞😞
31:16 I’m not accepting that conclusion either Barry. Look at what Baltimore did to that oh so great Buffalo team. The Bills team that ran all through everyone for 3 weeks, got absolutely dismantled on both sides of the ball by Baltimore. Does that mean that Buffalo is a bad team? No. They had a bad gameplan. Which is exactly what happened to Miami against Buffalo. It wasn’t that they are an awful team. They just had an awful game plan and the Bills had a great game plan on that day. And then there were players asked to step up in moments in the game, and they did anything but step up to the plate. To the extent that Tua felt the need to get himself hurt while trying to provide the kick in the ass spark that his team desperately needed. It’s so easy to over react to things when you have no idea what all lead up to that point. And it’s easier still, to choose to criticize the wrong things, as a result of not knowing what really should be criticized