Is Influencing Harder Than A 9 to 5 Job? - PRETTY BASIC- EP. 188
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I literally came to here to say this lol I tried to dm you too but I know you'd never see it lol
Thank you lol
thank you!!
I think people don't like influencers saying their job is harder than others is because most people don't get the amount of money and quality of life that influencers get. So even if it is hard, influencers are getting something great out of it where as people like nurses work so hard for little pay and barely any time off, so feels almost pointless.
Obviously no hate, just a perspective.
I agree with you
I agree
This makes a lot of sense! Never heard of this perspective before yet I agree with 100%
I totally agree! I didn’t see anyone say that yet.
I totally agree. I think social media transformed careers and opportunity so much to where you can earn millions without an education and work hours for a quarter of the compensation.
It’s not that the 9-5 is harder is that almost 90% of the people that work 9-5 make very little money, 40-80k a year and working so hard Monday through Friday and making so little it makes life harder and the job harder. I work in healthcare and I work soooo hard all day every day and the amount of Money I make doesn’t even come closeee to an influencer. I think this is when people get confused. This is just my opinion at least ❤
Faxxxx. We be gettin’ duped out here working hard while they sit back collecting checks
There are also plenty of perks when it comes to being an influencer. Free product/destination trips/setting your standard payment. Ppl will work for yrs to get their dream home and influencer will do it in a year- if that.
Valid, and I'm now a full time content creator.
Agreed!! Husband has worked in covid19 units the past two years and doesn’t make nearly as much as influencers do. Can people who saves lives and take care of lives get paid influencers do who don’t save lives?? 😂
Facts. Well put.
The big thing with Mikayla is the money. It’s not that influencing can’t be hard or difficult, but the payout is wayyyyyyyyy more than what anyone else is making in the corporate world. THAT is why ppl are upset. Both jobs can be hard but one pays a year salary in one video and one is basically poverty
You made a good point. Hard is hard. But hard with a side of “I need to get another hard job just to pay my bills” is another struggle.
i think this topic just goes down to money/quality of life. i’m pretty sure every job has hardships, but when influencers start complaining but the life they live is financially comfortable/stable vs someone working 12 hours a day making a little over minimum wage trying to make ends meet, it’s like be for real right now & it makes me roll my eyes lmaoo that’s just my opinion tho idk
Our society shows it values when the ones who educate us are paid less than the ones who entertain us.
The truth
As a freelancer, I get the stress of "where is money coming from, is this all going to end, what happens if ___ happens, how will I pay bills" - and I'm sure there's part of that too with influencing. And I agree, the business stuff doesn't turn off in your head.
I do think that pay makes a difference here too. Having the ability to live comfortably and make good money, make advancements in whatever career your doing, is a big factor too.
Im definitely a physical book reader. I can’t concentrate when I’m reading on my phone. I love physical books. The smell, the feel… everything 🧚💗💗
I’m the same way!
your jobs might not be mentally easy, but is it much easier than people who wake up every day at 6 am and don’t come back home until 6-7pm. I have many family members that work these hours, but they barely get by and don’t have the means as influencers do.
I would never say that an influencer's job is super easy, but...
I always look up to my mom. She's a single mother who worked (and still works at the moment) from 8 to 6 for most of my life. There was also one time when, while raising me and working long hours for the smallest paycheck (Work in kindergarten yay), she managed to get another education.
I know that no matter how much I work, I will not allow myself to open my mouth and say, yes, I work a lot more than she does.
And also, PEOPLE DON'T LEAVE THE WORK AND FORGET ABOUT IT. At least where I live. You come home from work and most of the time you're till late at night doing your job. And again, it's all for minimum wage. Yes, middle class people may live differently. But most of the world is lower class. People work two+ jobs, they don't have a chance to go on trips or even have a normal day off.
And to the loss of mental health. People lose mental health and their health. Most ppl can’t even get a f day off cuz they are sick. My mom literally can't not take pills every day because she is just plain sick, Because of how many years she has been working in such a horrible mode
People get up at 6 a.m., they are mentally already at work. People come home from work late at night, they're still thinking about it. I'm not even talking about doctors and all the other jobs of that type because they can just get a call in the middle of the night.
I apologize for the mistakes, English is not my first language
It’s very stressful. I hope she finds peace and rest❤ she deserves it. She’s worked so much ❤ do u help her 😮
Absolutely agree with this
I don’t like to compare because everything has its own challenges and we all have different perceptions.
The challenge of 9-5 is working 40 hours a week for little money to barley afford the house you live it in or gas to get to work. Being micromanaged by a corporate company who only sees you as a number.
You live ground hogs day. Wake up work dinner bed. Wake up work dinner bed. You are on someone else’s time. You are told when to be there, when to take breaks, and when you can leave.
Attendance policies are killer. You are literally told how many days a year you are allowed to be sick. You can be denied vacations and time off. You can be “let go” at anytime.
You can have a terrible boss who’s bullies you and in my experience, HR doesn’t give a shit.
Again, I’m not saying it’s harder but the challenges are very different.
Thank you for mentioning single moms ❤
ive been watching remi since her dorm vlogs cooking in her microwave and i feel like throughout all the years shes always been so genuinely nice. you can tell shes so understanding and accepting of everyone. i really hope i can raise my kids to be this way
I actually like a physical book, for me it feels so satisfying when the book is thick and you’re half way through it and you’ve seen how much you’ve read. It’s just a good feeling!
i love that alisha asked remi to use "palpable" in a sentence when she literally just did lol
the episode on Spotify was just a reupload of the Lauren one :(
Same with apple
Podcasts.
Same with amazon music podcast
yeah I noticed that hopefully they’ll be able to fix it soon.
Yeah 😂 that's why I came here
That makes so much sense!!! I was confused this morning jajajaja
Two things can be true . Influencing can be it’s own type of hard, the same way a 9-5 is hard . Some people just think about the freedom and amount that you get paid as an influencer. Just like 2 people can work the exact same job and one can say it’s sooo hard and the other person can think it’s the easiest job they’ve ever had .
As a teacher I understand how the work never stops, I think the difference is popular influencers are paid a wage way above living while teachers, nurses, social workers, etc are living pay check to pay check.
Period!!!
I left my wallet in a bathroom stall at a venue in the city. Once I realized, I ran back to the bathroom. Someone in line saw me freaking out and said, you lost your wallet? I said yes and she responded that someone had taken it to the bar!!! I asked one of the bartenders and they had it. I’m still so grateful for the angel baby who turned it in
I agree with you guys. Any job can be hard in different ways. I am a PR and social media marketing strategist and these jobs are mentally exhausting. Especially social media, it can be a mind game and you can get depressed and exhausted. It’s hard beating the algorithms and achieving success. But having the flexibility to do you and focus on you while getting paid extremely well is a huge bonus. So I’m that sense influencing is not hard, but mentally it is.
You guys always look beautiful, but Alisha was STUNNING this episode. Her hair styled like this really suits her!
I love your name! Sounds almost like Brooke Davis from one tree hill
The biggest difference is that influencers get paid for ONE video what food workers get in a year of physically AND mentally AND emotionally challenging work, and when that work gets to either of them, influencers can get paid to film themselves crying with a Better Help sponsorship and we get fired for struggles with mental health. For these two reasons alone, influencers who have already made it will never have it as hard as minimum/ low wage workers.
Okay, miss Alisha your HAIR?!?! This EP. Is hands down my fav! You look so good!
The thing about mikayla and why I think it got so big is because it was very insensitive, yes she was having a bad day and i get that but still her job comes with so much privilege that most of us will never even understand, incredible pay great hours luxurious trips and free products. On a bad day I still have all my problems and none of the conveniences that influencers have, most people work jobs where we are unhappy and incredibly underpaid where you have to go to work no matter how you are feeling mentally or if you are physically sick or if you’ve had a death in the family we don’t have the privilege of working the days we want the hours we want or even getting paid what would be fair and will never be able to get the amount of money in 1 year that influencers get from 1 video. There are people that literally can not stop working because the mental stress of not being able to pay your bills is so much, we would never dream of taking a sporadic vacation or buying anything luxurious as influencers can easily do, when they make in let’s say 1 month what we make in 2 years not to mention the people who have 2 or even 3 jobs just to pay the bills missing out on their kids lives or on family time because they HAVE TO provide it’s not an option, our life is literally work and it’s a constant thing and a constant worry aside from everything else that also happens in peoples life the daily struggles. I work taking care of the elderly and get paid 9 dollars an hour which is a very physically mentally and emotionally draining job and get paid very little from it I’m basically living day to day just to pay the bills, For most of us we can’t quit because we have responsibilities and families and no savings and can’t follow our dreams because that requires money and is a big risk we can’t take. the whole thing was really sad because as an influencer yes you work hard of course but the public has also given you that platform and she’s able to do this now because of the publics support so for her to speak in that way was very tone deaf and just sad because for most of us we support her and still we will never no matter how hard or how long we work be able to make what influencers make or have the freedom that they have. I don’t mean any hate at all I’m just being realistic I do love mikayla and I do follow her and the hate she got was a lot but it was hurtful because it was very out of touch
thank you for shouting out nurses and understanding that it truly IS a hard job! i feel like influencers are always out here trying to justify how hard they work (bc they're likely insecure about their chosen career) when there are many people out here working just as hard if not harder. the way i feel is that everyone works hard, some harder than others, but if you're working full-time, you're working hard so don't feel like you have to justify that to anyone
As a person that loves the whole career side of influencers and TH-camrs and content creators I can say that here, two things are true at once. Yes, anything that takes mental work or physical work will get hard, mentally exhausting and stressful. I think what ppl refer to when they say “influencing isn’t hard” (bad choice of words) is that they rather be broken down tired and living a comfortable life than being exhausted and not even having enough to feed their family. I say the same about football/sports players. This is a conversation that won’t go away. Unfortunately. And I’m a physical book gal!
The fact that she’s describing a normal day of work that’s starts early and finishes at 5 (most of others finish later), to prove that influencing is hard is sad. I understand that in every job there is a hard part, it’s not always happiness, but comparing yourself to people who study for so long and have to use that knowledge in the real world to make a difference and get paid very little, is not right.
I'm a physical book girl! I'm a packaging designer, so my day is filled with blue light and at the end of the day it's nice to take a break from that with a physical book
This
I feel like influencing is harder than SOME office 9-5s but NOT harder than any customer facing 9-5s like the service industry, retail, construction etc. 🤷🏻♀️
I think both are equally hard, its just that they are hard in different ways.
However, I think the part that makes people outside influencing think ''its easy'' is coz influencers can control their schedule and can take breaks due to mental health or even vacation coz they want to and things like that would never fly in non influencing professions.
It's like - Influencing when done right is hard but you have flexibility, and other professions are hard but also you don't have the flexibility.
@@B.entries True! The flexibility is PRICELESS
@@B.entries the flexibility but also the enormous pay. Earning potential and actual pay of influencers is significantly more than your average 9-5.
True 😂
As someone who use to work in the aviation industry, the crew removed the kindle they are now allowed to keep it on the plane for security reasons, so it’s most likely stored in the lost and found, and it’s worth a call, sometimes it can be shipped to you. So no one’s going to see it on the next flight…
I just started listening/watching, and I just wanted to pop on and say that I’m loving Alysha’s look today, that green and the boots, so stunning! Also, Remi, am loving your “fall” extensions, that color looks so good on you!
Oh my god FORMSPING!! I just googled a week ago if the website is still active!! That was gossip girl managed by everyone. Period. Love you both! Grateful for the visual pod cause the Lauren episode was uploaded to this weeks episode on Spotify and I NEED my pb on Wednesday💖
i loooove physical books, but i also read quite lot on my phone. probably comes from reading fanfic.
another resource is using your library! most libraries will buy books that you want if they don’t already have them, and pretty much all public libraries have an online database. i read kindle ebooks/audiobooks for free through my library allllll the time. so, yes, 10 dollars is pretty cheap compared to physical books, but definitely recommend your library if you don’t usually reread your books!
Im definitely a physical book girlie! I actually want to build a Library of books I have loved to pass down to my kids (a little dream for me) I’ve tried the kindle world and I struggle to focus 🤣
I have the same dream! I grew up with a mini library in our hallway the shelf’s were filled with books and comics. I cannot read on a tablet or anything if I have to i’ll have it read it to me lol. I always wants physical copy.
Same I bought one and tried it for awhile but i could not focus on it. I also just love the physical book.
I love a physical book!!!! It’s my favorite. However because I am so strapped on time I love a good audible book.
first time trying to listen on Spotify and it's a reload.... TOTALLY OK because TH-cam is where it's at!!!!!!
I like both. I'll read on my Kindle, but if I really enjoy the book I'll buy a hard copy as well.
The issue is that most people who work normal jobs ARE working harder than influencers and getting WAY less in return. I’m a nurse & can work 12+ hour days multiple days in a row and still not make anywhere near what an influencer would make from ONE video. THATS the issue.
I like physical books. I like turning pages and feel them in my hand. I cannot get lost in the story on my phone.
People go to school for years and then come out making less than what an influencer will make in one month. On top of that, influencers don’t have to buy items because they can either reach out to the brand or they are sent those items. Influencers will never face poverty because even at their lowest, they can just post a video and leave. It’s tone deaf even for this podcast to speak on behalf of nurses, teachers, engineers, etc.
I can't believe this is even a conversation...
ALISHA don't feel like your ADHD is getting worse, being aware of your symptoms especially after a new diagnosis/thinking if heading down that path is how everyone feels. You may not be getting worse, you may just be more aware of what your symptoms are 💕💕
I’m physical book girly, but it’s because I love collecting and annotating them :) though I will admit kindle is amazing too
I can NOT read books on kindle/tablet/phone because my eyeballs are sensitive. I love my physical books.
also when I had my youngest I made sure instead of introducing my oldest to my youngest I made sure to introduce my youngest to his AMAZING big sister and how lucky he is to have her. I felt like she will remember this moment he will have no memory of it.
I’m a physical book reader, I love when I’m finished I can put it on my book case. And of course when I buy books it feels great being able to hold the books.
Hi ladies! As a momma to be, if Remi just so happens to find herself in the baby section… my little bean would love another auntie💕🤰😂
Anyway, I love you guys!! Thank you for making me smile 😊
I just wish all the prejudice could stop towards any kind of job. Housewives being judged for not "working", influencers being judged for not having a real job, etc. You can never know how much someone actually works.
I believe you do not realize that even if we have a "9 to 5" job that the work does not leave our head at 5 o'clock. We too have insomnia and always think about our work. We also have to plan our work, we experience stress at work and we do not have time during the day to go to the gym. I respect you and I envy your work. You have trips paid for by the companies or otherwise you have the money to travel. You don't realize that our life doesn't end at 5 o'clock. You your work is your life. So I don't think our work can be compared to each other. It's completely different from person to person and also very different depending on the work one person does compared to the other. But to continue your beautiful work, I love watching you. 😕
I don’t really think it’s a matter of whether one job is harder than another, but that workers should be paid a living wage no matter the work they do. Everyone deserves to have dignity in their work and make a fair living. Capitalism is unfortunately at odds with this, which is why is so important no matter how easy or hard a jobs is, that workers unionize to get the pay and benefits they rightfully deserve.
I agree with this. Because if a company can pay someone 50K for a IG photo they can surely pay the retail staff more for example. Like where are they getting the money? 🤷🏽♀️
its not that anything is harder than another, its definitely the difference in possible income vs the shit you put up with/go through.
Literally love Pretty basic podcasts 🤟🏼
I am a physical book girly, I used to only read digital. But there’s honestly nothing better than going to a book store and finding a new book!
So funny because I have been noticing ADHD Symptoms as well. I am literally the same . I am so excited for this new chapter in your life though 🙌🏽💚
Alisha - your dress and hair what a vibe cutieeeee😊
It's almost scary how easy it is for famous people to destroy their career and life just by one wrong move (it's their own fault of course but still sad) , I mean for a normal person you can start over but if you're famous no one will ever forget what happened regardless of where you go.
Regarding the keyboard autocorrect - you have to reset it after a while. I learned my keyboard adapted to names I usually type or words/phrases I always use and if I continually misspell “what” to waht” it won’t autocorrect 😂😭
New video idea: work a 9-5 for 90 days.
I work as an accountant and I can log off for the day and be stressed and up all night thinking about my work and my deadlines. It doesn’t end just bc I can clock out
Not me listening to the beginning with over 300 books on my shelves and then another like 100+ on my kindle 😂😂
You guys shouldn’t have to justify being a creator. You worked for it. You have what you have bc you put the effort and time in and you deserve it. Yes people put effort and time in and don’t make it, but you guys work so hard and do everything and appreciate everything your viewers have done for you. Don’t feel bad you put in the work and got what you guys deserve, don’t ever feel bad about it :)
Being a influencers is a privilege. Being at home working and earn the money that you want to earn, instead of the bear minimum, THAT IS privilege. People working in the fields, waiters, customer services reps. Those are wayyy more difficult than being an influencer.
I feel like a lot of people are still in the notion that the only way you should be making good money is by hard physical labor and that’s just not it. they just aren’t comparable in the same way, i don’t think I could ever be an influencer and absolutely hats off to the influencers these days!
I’m a lash tech and I 100% agree with you guys. I will never say my job is harder than others but my job is hard!
what a better way to start my morning than listening to y’all’s podcast 🥂
People study all their lives and work so hard to make an actual difference in the world, just to get very little money. Whilst influencers are rich for filming themselves. I just don’t get it
Remi said it perfectly, it was super tone deaf of mikayla to say that and I’m glad she got called out for it now we can move on lol
Hey, love the pretty basic podcast 💕 I think you uploaded last weeks episode again on Spotify instead of the new episode
Omg the song ‘Casio’ by Jungle is one of my absolute favoritesss ❤️❤️❤️
The Spotify version is a repeat from last week girls 😢
Physical books from the library is what I do, not trying to spend money to read and the library always has dope recommendation sections from the librarians
I LOVEEEE Lucy Score’s novels! Also, I only read books online because I’m too poor to buy them 💀
“Im glad you like it.. that’s fun..” 😂
I love Remi’s reading girl era! When she said she was reading her smut I was like mmmm is it really? Then she said the title and I was like nvm yup 😂 but also I mostly enjoy reading digitally for the convenience and annotating is easier. But if I really love a book, I’ll purchase a physical copy of it just to support the author ☺️
PHYSICAL BOOKS!!! 100% ALWAYS! PHYSICAL YOU GET MORE OF A CONNECTION ✨
NOT THE NIP SLIP 😂😂😂
LMFAOOO
No way he had her watching Joselines cabaret 😂😂😂😂
I love reading on my phone or tablet but I love having the actual book just to fill up my bookcase more!!
I love physical books cause who needs more tech?! no one lol 😅 BUT I don’t re-read books hardly ever so I try to use the library or check out e-books with my library app 😊😊
I’m from Nebraska and a town is named Papillion! There are buttetfly benches and signs all over!
Just whats needed after a long day xx hope you both are well 😊😊
also besties, idk if its my spotify but todays episode on spotify is a duplicate of the one with lauren from last week :X
I grew up on a farm and when I met my brother for the first time I moo’d at him 🤣 obviously wasn’t around many people lmaoooo
Thing is, one can’t exist without the other. Not everyone can be an influencer because the world still needs to function (transportation, healthcare, education, etc). Influencers need the 9-5ers to promote shhh to, ya know? It just sucks when you work a 9-5 for peanuts. That’s why lots of us are harsh on influencers, especially if influencers are found to be taking advantage of their fans, but also why when we support you by buying your merch/whatever, you know we LOVE and support you. It’s unfortunately a weird unbalanced relationship, but the people who get nasty about it on either side really need a reality check.
i love my kindle because of kindle unlimited, but physical books for the win. they just hit different. i enjoy the books more with a physical book.🥰
Best friend from high school named Alecia!!! No way! I have been here since the leeshsquared2 days 😂🥰🥰🥰
i love physical books but i don’t have enough space to be collecting books so i loooove the kindle. i also love being able to read at night with all the lights off
ALISHA…I need a tutorial for this hair style!!!
Please have colleen ballienger or mai phammy on!
clicked on todays episode sitting at my desk at my 9-5 , feelin a lil triggered lolol
I read so much! But it's funny because I absolutely do NOT like reading Kindle books. I need a physical book in my hand. I feel like I'm on a screen so much during the day for work or my phone ETC so it just feels like another chore.
y’all….. Joseline’s Cabaret is so fucking good. Remi please watch it!! My best friend introduced me to the show a month ago & now I can’t stop
Aw man I’d be sad loosing my bag but even more for my cards , driver’s license bc it’s b***h to go to the dmv , canceling& waiting for ur cards to arrive 😩
Spotify was uploaded last weeks episode
Spotify has the wrong episode for today!! Having to stream on my phone at work. 😂😂😂
It’s crazy bc I live across the sf bay and literally heard the Portola music festival. I was so sad I couldn’t go
STOPP FORMSPRING !!! when we used to share it on our fb status 😅 lmao
I am a physical book reader. Also I live in a country where getting a kindle isn’t really an option😅 In conclusion I get headaches from reading on a screen☺️
This is a bit off topic, but I love that Remi said she lives so far from the airport, but it’s an hour away. I’m from a one stoplight town, so an hour drive is nothing to me😂. I also drive 6-7 every weekend to visit my fiancé in the army, which to me also isn’t a far drive lmao. No hate to Remi, I just found that to be a little funny😂❤️
I go on waves on physical books and kindle versions
I definitely prefer to read physical books but like 80% of the time, I am on my kindle or listening to audibles since it’s more time efficient.
Alisha I love your dress!!❤