Heart Based Fighting Game Players
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2024
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0:00 Buyee Ad
0:55 Intro
2:20 Playstyle
4:13 Heart Players
6:37 Heart Techniques
10:00 Outro - เกม
“There’s a fine line between genius and stupidity, and I snort that line”
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nice one, I'll steal that one pls
Iam In the Middle HA..HA!
Mind players: I'm gonna lab out obscure techs because I think it's fun
Body players: I'm gonna lab out intense combos and TODs because it's helpful
Me: I'm gonna raw super in neutral and you're gonna get hit by it
Um... yeah that basically sums it up in one paragraph.
I'll just add that even if you're not there yet with your style, pulling it off is what makes you most hype. I'll learn a combo and memorize tech as best I can, but pulling those off in a match doesn't move the needle for me. Getting a hard read on my opponent three times in a row in three different ways does, even if I can't capitalize on it for beans. That feeling that you can see the future is just the best.
@@smithsmith6402 this is exactly why I mained Ganon in smash. He is a terrible character. The only way to win with him is with Gigachad reads. That feeling that you get when you’ve conditioned someone then mind break them is so satisfying
i get away with this waaay more than I should
Yeah that's me Using soul's super ARI!
I'm a Heart player because if I face another Happy Chaos, I'm going to have a fucking heart attack.
I'm a brain player cause if I get DP-ed by Leo again I'm gonna have a stroke
I'm a body player cause if I get Pot Buster on round start one more time I'm gonna hang myself
I'm a heart player because I love shooting people from across the map until they stop trying to move forward so I can stop shooting to feign sympathy
In the wise words of Lao Tzu: "You are only minus if you are a bitch"
Yep I am definitely a heart player. Because every time I fuck up I did something I already knew I shouldn´t have.
as Happy Chaos once said: "A strategic plan never beats an improvised one"
Hate to be that guy but I'm pretty sure he said the perfect plan never beats an improvised one. Either way you're right
@@nkirmath8621 yea didn't exaccly remebered the quote xD
@@nelomalkevain4129 lol it happens
Or as Mike Tyson and, by extension, Balrog said: "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face."
@@Zetact_ Pretty much Sol's creed.
I'm a Heart Player powered by spite. A smart player would realize how risky going for throw three times in a row is and adapt.
My answer is "Don't tell me what to do"
Me: It's only risky if it misses *again*.
Then you throw them a 4th time and they start to question their existence.
Then you go in again for the 5th time and decide not doing it THIS time would be funnier.
And it works
Ky main detected
@@KnightMinson I can neither confirm nor deny this accusation.
This video explained how I play games PERFECTLY! My friend is an extremely analytical player and I always feel really stupid fighting him because I can never explain what I’m doing or why I never lab. All that comes out is just, “Chipp and Zato funny”. Loved this video and happy birthday!
"Yeah, but why think when Eddie goes brrr?" Feel free to use as you see fit.
Something I love doing as zato is using 214K (Break the Law) to go under and cross up the opponent on the other side and grab them when I come up. It's extremely easy to punish, since the more time you stay under, the longer it takes to come up. But that just makes it funnier when it works.
1 Grab: Lmao gottem
2 Grabs: GYAHAHAHAH I CANT BELIEVE IT WORKED AGAIN
3 Grabs: Jaw unhinges into maniacal laughter
4: Grabs: Ascension
Hearing you say "HEAVENLY! POTEMKIN! BUSTER!" gave me life. 10/10 video.
The "DP Gohan, there's no time" got a hearty guffaw from me. Also I noticed the nice balancing on the audio. C'est magnifique.
The deadliest weapon is whichever one the enemy doesn’t see coming
As a “heart” player myself it’s hard to play a game consistently when I’m struggling, not losing, but struggling.
I don’t necessarily care for frames, matchups, skill checks etc, just wanna have fun and do dope stuff feeling like I’m fighting in an Anime or something. Much less stress and disappointment this way.
I am literially this person, once I hit a wall in a fighting game and am told to do research, I don't want to pick up a notebook and watch other people play the game. I wanna be unga bunga and beat up my friends, not do homework
@@theidealbaron7403 Most of the time improvement comes from just paying attention to the way your opponent plays and how you play. I can't tell you how many times I've played people who have tons of matches into the game and have easily fixable habits. But yea don't expect to beat people who actually play to improve.
@@chachawho435 That makes sense. I usually just blindly feel my way through improvement most of the time, so just scrubbing through numbers and scenarios was never something that appealed to me. Thanks for the Advice!!
Im definitely mostly a heart player. Im out here zoning out pulling out combos on reaction I've never been able to do on purpose. I think that if you fight this way, its more important for you to memorize what your options are at any given moment, and how to convert from the most common occurances.
I'm new to fighting games and this kind of stuff happens to me most often. Like you've said, it's most beneficial for me to learn what works in certain situations (like I'd someone high up after I hit them). Very fun and satisfying stuff
If you can make your opponent think "BRO HE'S JUST MASHING" you've basically already won tbh
I main Faust specifically because he is meticulously designed and built for focusing on unpredictability and improvised gameplay, which is also why he doesn't really fit into the standard fighting game archetypes, like, Faust ain't exactly a zoner but he isn't rushdown and he isn't a grappler, he's FULL HEART ALL THE TIME.
It's by far my favourite type of fighting game gameplay.
Love the video! Quick correction: the conditioning usually used in fighting games is operant conditioning, not classic conditioning. Classical conditioning can influence emotional response, but cannot affect actions outside of involuntary stuff like sweating or drooling. It's about expectations and gut reactions. Operant conditioning causes people to change their behavior based on reward and punishment. It's the same psychology that gatcha games use to make people think they'll get that cute waifu jpg if they spend five more dollars. And five more dollars. And five more dollars. And five more dollars. And five more
For me, I think DBFZ has the biggest examples of heart players. When I'm able to get into the zone and I start doing things the player doesn't expect it leads to really fun scenarios. A good example Ive got is during an intense round I was down to my last character Jiren. And I made it a habit during the match to run up and do his command grab to try and force a response on the opponent during a hard knockdown. It came to a point where he started doing things to punish me for it. So after a few exchanges, I got another hard knockdown. Instead of running up and grabbing, I stayed back and did his rapid punch/236C attack, and the opponent woke up superd to try and do a reversal. But the ranged attack hit him out of it. And I won the game because of it. I wasn't actively trying to get him to do this, but in the moment I decided, hey what if.
As a rush down AxI genuinely love that play style because I can go back to mid screen and use my long reaching poke tools to fuck somebody up and I also love spammy the command grab to set it up my pressure 💜💜💜
Adding this to my serious FG Guides playlist. Managed to make a video thats full of memes and educational at the same time, good stuff!
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except when alot of people skip the axl matchup and regret it later on when they dont know how to fight an axl player
Idk if you'll see this but happy bday. Btw, this seems like an AMAZING video idea, I loved Core-A's video so it's nice to have a more in-depth analysis series.
Also, since it's bday, it is only expected to have some flattery, so here it comes: Out of all the analysis channels I know (I watch a ton of them) you seem to be the second best at energy, second only to Core-A (note that Core-A uploads more rarely so has more time to perfect the pacing), you, Stumbleblee and Core-A are the big three of hype videos, they're fast, analytical and sometimes comedic, whereas others suffer from bored voices, bad pacing, worse video idea picks (speaking of that, you are out of the box with some videos, like the luck one), boring editing, etc.
Keep up the good work!
Agreed, gekko is basically my fav channel for this kind of content
8:56 Oh Boy Here Comes The Funi Buster!
Enemy Player: 'I swear I'm never jumping again!"
I’m probably in the heart player range, but if there’s something that I REALLY feel like I can’t deal with or it’s not working for a few tries, I lean more to the mind section in those situations. Also happy birthday gekko!
Funny thing is that according to this video Sako who is famous for his more "stoic" appearance is a heart player) Even though he is playing Menato (zoner) he frequently comes pretty close to his opponents.
(But to be honest he is also a body player and probably a mind player.)
Mind player: I'm gonna read the shit out of you.
Heart player: Joke's on you, I don't know how to write!
"Read? When did i ever write something down"
I grew up during the old school days of fighting games, because of it being much harder to learn data I learned to play as a heart player. It’s only recently that Ive been diving in more to the analytical side of things to get better.
As a heart player, thanks for covering us first!
I have lost so many games just cause my mind broke after someone stood still for a few seconds. No matter what, Smash, TF2, Guilty Gear, someone stops moving and I fail to function.
The American way: If we don't know what we're doing then the enemy sure as hell doesn't know what we're doing.
#1 underrated fgc TH-camr, I feel like I actually learn something or I’m inspired by each of your videos
I've never played a fighting game in my life and this is the first analysis on fighting games I've ever understood and I don't know why
Something I love doing as zato is using 214K (Break the Law) to go under and cross up the opponent on the other side and grab them when I come up. It's extremely easy to punish, since the more time you stay under, the longer it takes to come up. But that just makes it funnier when it works.
Here's a nice timeline
1 Grab: Lmao gottem
2 Grabs: GYAHAHAHAH I CANT BELIEVE IT WORKED AGAIN
3 Grabs: Jaw unhinges into maniacal laughter
4: Grabs: Ascension
Happy Birthday!!! Keep making amazing content like these we need more friendly funny fgc youtubers
I'm totally a Heart player. Whatever game I choose, whatever character I gravitate to, they're always ones who have some kinda barely-used, downright low-tier moves that still COULD potentially catch an enemy off guard. I LOVE insta-kills and max meter supers, I love Dragon Install, I love full-screen charge-punch moves, just shit no one would dare try, I TRY!
I feel like the best heart based playstyle should be like a mix between brains and body, and then some more.
Having enough knowledge to know your tools and your opponent's, having enough reflexes to attack and react, but then throwing creativity into the mix, and taking into consideration your opponent's and your own mental state, and being able to tell when they're getting impatient, or more defensive, or too cocky, and being able to go along with the match. Kinda like the concept of flow state and Wu Wei
“If you desire such a power” Jedi survivor ad shows up. Than “I have no clue how to transition from that” lmao
Happy belated birthday GekkoSquirrel I appreciate every video you made cuz it's the fun and informative man!
I'm actually so happy that you got to obtain this popularity and stability in this activity. I'm also so glad to see so much of your works that regularly recently. Loye your work, continue that way
always loved being a heart player, playing footsies, making reads, having fun, styling on and frustrating your opponents, it just feels so good, and in my opinion it's way more interesting to understand how the game and the players work and play around that rather than remembering everything and calculating in advance. it's those moments, when you get a bad situation and find a way to overcome it that give you a great amount of pleasure and satisfaction and by not knowing everything this happens a lot more often (of course I still learn stuff and spend time in training mode, but only the stuff that I really need). that's why I like samsho, because it's all about footsies and mind games, and 3d fighters, because the amount of freedom that you get to (quite literally) play around your opponent and the impact of doing so are so much bigger than in 2d fighting games and especially anime fighters(even though you still need to learn and remember a lot especially in tekken).
Happy birthday man! Recently found this channel and could always use another laugh while learning more fighting game stuff
happy birthday, Gekko!
"I was plus, why are you hitting buttons?! It's not your turn!"
Me: "i du no, it worked...and wait, when did this become an RPG?"
2:07 as a Gio player i appreciate this
Also happy birthday!
Happy birthday, thanks for the videos just started getting into fighting games and your videos definitely help
Do you think Jack-O could be played with a lot of Heart?
_"Her theme's telling me yeees...but her gameplay....her gameplay's telling me nooooo~"_
Happy birthday! Great vidéo as always cant wait to see the rest of this series!
I am that Leo player that dashes full screen and throws you. Twice. Yes, canceling Brynhildr stance to do so.
Heart players know exactly why they do what they do, that's the one misconception here. Because we know you're going to get hit by it. Not because we planned it, but because right now, at this moment, we know what you're thinking and how to get in your head. We can tell by the buttons your pushing, how and when you're pushing them, as well as how you're moving, or that one time in the match where you whiffed a throw, and precisely when you did it, and in what situation.
The thing everyone gets wrong is that the subconscious can be conditioned and trained to make rational decisions. The trick here is letting the quiet part of your brain do the more strategic thinking, so the rest can focus on taking in and processing what's happening in the moment to moment.
For real. Fairly often, some weird interaction will occur. I do something in response, and destroy my opponent in the moment. Afterward, I have to ask for a recap, because I didn't conciously process what was going on, I just reacted to it. Or times when I know exactly what my opponent will do and just wait to punish them. Not because I sat and analyzed their character and behavior, my brain just picked it up as we played, no conscious thought required. If we wanna go further with philosophy, I think this is actually a principle in zen, where you train your mind to react without thought, but intelligently so. Mind like a mirror, or something like that, reflecting what's in front of it.
The fact that Axl is just a chill guy and a zoner that annoys people just solidifies he's meant to be played with the heart 😎
Ay, happy birthday!! Thanks for the banger videos and I hope the day treats you well!
As a heart player through and through, I don't even pay attention to frame data, I just vibe out when I can mash and cheat my turn back. Works like a charm till it doesn't.
happy birthday! love your videos so much
Whooooo, happy birthday and wishing the best for your future contents
Happy Birthday Gekko!
I didn't know that gekko shouting HEAVENLY POTEMKIN BUSTER is what I needed but I am in love
Happy birthday
holy shit that nmh transitions tho
btw great vid as always man
Something that's thrown me off switching from Smash to anime fighters is that in Smash, DI means that combos lean way more heavily on the heart than the body. As such, building the skill to do traditional combos has been an uphill climb.
Great video Gekko!
I still think back to a set I had in the Strive beta where I missed my super with Ram had the opponent run in but little did he know I was still mashing super 🤣
"idk man i just press buttons" damn i felt that in my soul LMAO
Happy birthday!!! Love ur videos! Please keep it up!!
Great video! Nice music taste too :) Love Klaus Veen
The problem with that little voice in the back of my head is that it’s always telling me to instant air dash in with jumping heavy slash because I like how May swings her anchor
Happy Birthday Gekko. Hope u have a nice day. Take good care of urself.
Happy Birthday man, love your videos.
Hey gekko! Loved the video man! you raided me like 2 days ago and i never even realized it was your birthday! so Happy Belated! and thank you sm once again ❤️
Nice expansion on Gerald's video keep it up! Looking forward to the next 2
“You’re playing chess, I’m playing tic tac toe, and I still won”
Happy Birthday! :D Also I loved this video.
This is an amazing video already.
Happy birthday love the vids!
The choice of images for the first two made them crystal clear to me
Happy Birthday my dude!
hope you have a good birthday gekko, I've been enjoying your content since the algorithm gave it to me
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MY GUY!
Great vid and happy birthday!!
happy belated birthday man keep up the amazing content
homie is releasing content FAST and i love it
My playstyle is “lol it’ll funny if this works”
Happy B-day!
I recently got into a big debate with a friend who seemingly doesn't have an ounce of heart-based play in him and so was really struggling with Melty Blood Type Lumina and the big universal one button counter. I tried to explain the concept of reads to him but he was just like "That's just statistics..." and I had no idea what else to say 'cause well he's not wrong. I'm eager to see what he has to say after watching this vid!
great vi as always
0:55 Imagine these three sitting around a table
2:57
You've never seen the absolute zoning tool that is Gio's 66 2D, did you?
5:30 I am stealing the fuck out of that line cause that would sound so badass coming from a mentor character
I don't have the internet to play fighting games reliably, but I'll continue to vicariously live my fighting game journey through you till the day comes that I can afford a better internet connection.
(I watch your vids at 240p)
This is totally me. Unga Bunga is pretty heart. It's actually a good tactic to switch to Heart when you encounter a Brains player lol
I must be a heart and mind player. I run in with Axl on occasion ^^ but I also like to learn all the move properties and use them to their fullest. When I am full screen as Axl, the opponent typically jumps expecting me to do the command grab but I almost never do that move in expected situations like that so they usually jump into my 6K after running into mid range for some meter. I love how the player base has conditioned opponents for me ^^
I subbed thanks to this video. This is me 100% thank you.
I love the No More Heroes boss intro.
The Heart player: How do you know what i'm going to do when even I don't know what I'm going to do!?! Strange, isn't it?!
Happy birthday dude, hope your day was great
I play guilty Gear by ear . With Nago, a lack of life is no issue as long as there is sauce
Happy birthday 🎂!!
Happy birthday man. Also you actually got a sponsor? That's wild
Happy bday bro!
"you hate these archetypes because ur bad, get good scrub"
seems like bullying but realizing this is the key to enjoying fighting games
Happy birthday man! I enjoy your content a lot. I hope we may be have a GGST match some day 😁. That would be cool!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DUDE
Happy birthday!!!
Happy birthday dude
Happy birthday man
Happy birthday mate
happy birthday. health and good fortune