What Happened at TI12? | Tundra Esports Documentary
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ต.ค. 2023
- Our Final Documentary takes us through the trials and tribulations of The International 12. See first hand our players thoughts and actions through the group stage to lower bracket knockout.
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Great video guys!
woah it's Gorgc! to mr editor: i appreciate you man
The tone of this was perfect. Kudos to the team that put this video together and to those who shared so openly.
It feels like the team energy is so tense. No smile, no fun, so much pressure just by watching it felt so uncomfortable let alone the players. Poor topias 😢
i personally thought topson has a curse every time he plays with other teams they tend to do less because they subconscious think topson will carry them lol.
It will be hard work and sweaty at the highest level, but if there is 0% fun, enjoyment or passion, you will never play your full potential.
I felt exact same …. no fun, no passion, just straight edge stuff maybe trying too hard
I think so if we compare topson in OG he was enjoy more than staying in tundra !
Love to see behind the scenes. Cool to get the psychologist interview too. Hoped for a further run but nonetheless happy we got to see yall play
yea hope this type of content is put out more love tundra fr doing the content. hope yall bounce back in whatever team. sneykings tone at the end really hit home
Since we dont have True Sight, i hope more teams do these kinds of documentary. Great content!
No truesight this year? Noo why
Just watched Team Spirits vlog and then this Tundra one.. There is such a difference, Spirit's vibe is the same as the first OGs - They look/sound like a unit of friends.. Tundra feels like they're a business... The body language of Tundra show as if they don't respect each others... In saying that *I feel like Sneaking, Nine and Topson give off good synergy.
Ggwp tundra, it was beautiful watching you play in the group stage. I felt like Topson was a great space maker for the team that is known for its innovative plays. Was very sad to see you lose. Hope you win the next one!!
Just bring back saksa. kick topson make nine play mid again. ez TI winner
they disbanded already : /
Sadge
I have seen lot of comments on Topson couldn't blend into the team whatsoever, however I do believe that Skiter was the biggest problem they had during this TI. He made some serious of fatal decisions not only outside of teamfights but in teamfights too.
Flopson....
He did indeed but the final blow was that mk “bait” on the draft just because people are “afraid” of Topson’s mk.
Skiter costs them on the main stage
skiter plays just fine before topson so lets stop blaming it on skiter like the rest of topson fanboys are doing. cuz that shit is stupid and toxic
@@bananaenjoyer123 Ck no silver edge? Alche tarrasque no damage no bkb build!? Void egg chronos? Bro, skitter performed like a 5-7k average carry, Topson not popping bkb on willow terror and other mistakes are there as well.
I admire and appreciate this video.
It is real and it happens to the best of us.
We take a chance running for TI and I would love to be there...
You can keep your heads high.
I hope to see you in the tournament one day.😊
Great video, also nice insight about what happened during TI. Don’t worry guys you’ll be back for sure!
love you team tundra. i still believe in you. 33 best offlaner in the world. next year!
Every team must make these kind of vids
Awesome content guys. Sad on the result... :( Hope Topson finds a way to stay in the scene!
Skiter no dmg against naga after a free farm for around 25mins, 2nd game he goes yolo against whole team without bkb. gg
The tone of the ending message makes it seem that you guys are really disbanding. I know that when you are in your top form you guys are one of the best, it showed in this year's group stage. Hope you guys bounce back and go for one last run.
Great run with topson, but it seems they were playing not to lose vs playing to win. Excited for next season
No wraith pact?
The boys ain't waiting for Valve, they're making their own True Sight
But True Sight is about winners and not losers. Isn’t it ?
Valve announced not making true sight anymore
@@drownedingames488 they won TI 11
@@tenidasio591where? You're just talking debunked rumours lol
@@4536647674what, when was it debunked? there has been no True Sight for 2 TIs in a row now. TS' content creator dept already confirmed there will be no True Sight this year too. Sad, but I guess that is the truth.
unlucky year but few teams can say they have achieved more than you guys did, rest well and come back stronger!
We need behind the scenes more, does TI 11 really no True Sight from Tundra?
Kick skitter choke Lord
not the end for you guys, team spirit had the same fate after winning TI but it didnt let them down. Not a fan but you are still one of the best teams in the world
Having a top tier Topson join your team pushing your current mid to pos4 is a huge change and will need time to adjust and synergies. to make it that far with the team is a win already
having to cope pretending topson is top tier is clearly a huge problem. just accept topson is the problem and kick him
Nine destroyed as a mid laner when Tundra won TI..
Seems like a mistake to put him to pos4 only to accommodate Topson.. tough call to make that backfired
No disregard to Topson here.. he's the GOAT of mid lane..
But Perhaps, comfort of your existing players weighs more here
@@marioc200it feels like we watched different games?? The games i watched in TI12 topson was owning mid and creating so much space for his team
if you go 7-1 in groups the problem isnt "we got a new player and only had 2 months of prac with new roles" (yes they had easily 2 months if not more time to prac, they were prac with topson long before official announcement of this)
The reason they lost as aui said himself. they played bad dota. which is very obvious of what they did. you dont go from minute 20 with 15k ish networth lead > lose in 55 minutes cuz "topson was mid not nine".
Nouns game they got clearly surprised by nouns. and they were on full autopilot after winning 7-1 of their games.
good teams isn't always about core heroes, tundra with saksa was the reason they won ti
like ts with mira and miposhka
like og with jerax and notail
teams like tundra with nine(?) and sneyking(who doesn't have impact) will surely crumble
it all settles in the mind behind those cores
интересно обсуждали ли они билд скитера на алхимике после игры
Your team is phenomenal, would be shame to shuffle/disband (dunno if Topson wants to keep playing) - at least looking from outside :) glhf guys
they already disbanded sadly
@@PrefoX really?
If all hope lies in the skitter, then there is no hope. He can’t play hard carry, he was really good on semicarry imo. You won TI and got high place in some tournaments because of your unique play style, without any real carry unit in my pov.
Isn't naga hard carry?
he was one of the best carry players of ti10 qualifiers but sure
@@nullstate8117 well she is more of a hard carry. But I think there’s also gameplay differences. Skitter pretty much always was taking early orchid to silence some important hero and early shard to heal and save his team. He also was trying to scout all battlefield with illusions and not fighting with main hero, only when he needed to use orchid or Song maybe
Yes, his TB, void, or some other hard carry heroes suck.. currently only good with CK which has strong midgame timing..
@@nullstate8117 kinda? But her late game sucks
Great video! I'm STILL waiting for last year's True Sight!
Is that what psychologists do? Say the obvious 😆
Its hilarious that 33 in 8:07 first thing he dead after the L is blame his teammates, when just 10 seconds before that a clip was played of him ulting an illusion. Ironic.
I think the "mental aspect" is huge... and I don't mean to fire no shots, but this psychologist you guys got... I mean... who is in charge of choosing these guys? :T
I am of the opinion (pretty sure tbh) that with good mental work, the team can definitely be a top1 contender all year round... look at the damn talent in the team man... now, with Topson too? Crazy...
Hope you guys find a good psychologist to help everyone get in their best mental shape possible and just keep playing and having fun... work together and work a lot to make things click... give players time to adapt to playing together... a good coach to help... and crush everyone...
Best of luck in the future... was rooting for you guys :(
nt guys! not this yr, maybe next. bounce back
unfortunate, TOPSON is one of the best but the team has played with Saksa for a very long time. team Chemistry and the having the guys play the role that theyve played for a long time is not something that can be replaced. also, is the Eva Elfie buff there or not?
This is a powerhouse team, I hope they don't disband.
Miracle has arrived
about the rumors its true that you acquired complete roster of gg?
Losing to Nouns was a bit upset for me ngl I put big hope on you guys go for 2 times winner guys ❤
So they choose to fight against nouns and lost?
Nice vlog
U guys should remember TI is the different place, where everything can happen, OG out at TI6 at low bracket, Team spirit at TI11, still can improve, the point is Tundra lineup change so much, team need to be stable soon
we'll be back!
Скитерок-Браток
you don't recover from losing to nouns
WEAVER SUPPORT, MK SUPPORT.. GG LOL
Nouns actually played really well against other teams aswell. Feels like it was the drafts and the item builds. Item builds were super sus on some cores ngl.
@@stepbro609 ya wonder how hard it would be to beat a mk or a weaver support that give nothing to the team lol
@@gamersrevenge6528 weaver and mk does alot tbh and they usually pick the hero for vision and info collector so not really a bad pick coz nine literally owns them with weaver especially. But it went downhill later coz of the drafts and the item builds. I still dont understand the Heart of Trsq and Octarine on Alche with no bkb and Zeus 1st item kaya, instead of phylactery against Entity 2nd game that knocked them out of the tournament. Overall so many sus things happening that game. Or am i the idiot i dont know!
Nouns was a good team wtf ?
I think the first game against Entity was the breaking point. In a timeline where Tundra doesn't force the long fight after pushing high-ground, lose 4 and the game turns, they close out that game and probably win the series 2,0. Maybe even make a decent lower bracket run. This time, it just wasn't meant to be. Hang in there boys
Game 1 vs Nouns with Sneyking going up the ramp like an herald just to bounce WD cask on 33. Worst decision making at TI, Tundra looked tilted after that game
One love - TOPSON!!!❤❤❤
9:00 why Skiter place Chrono on his teammates? wtf is wrong? I think it's 2nd time even
No one looked like they were having any fun. I think you focused on "focus and confidence" when it should have been about relaxing and having fun. You guys need different personalities. Everyone is too cold and reserved. No one is joking around to lighten the mood.
Lose 0-2 to both entity and nouns whilst AR 2-0’ed both. Yet in their last interview 33 and Nine were clearly skeptical and scornful of sneykings dream team draft, all I saw was arrogance and ignorance. Nine is a joke on pos4 and 33 is just a mediocre offlane without zoo meta. They deserved the shortcoming, feels bad for topson and sneyking.
Love Sneyking!
Let's run it back boys!
skiter is no ana or yatoro, they can find farm in all situation, he can't
Welcome Miracle
Skiterok - Bratok
Losing to nouns make them reevaluate their whole live
to be fair, that fluke is a hard thing to swallow for a top team. They would win 9 out of 10 times against that kind of weakass team but they choked hard, GG/AR showed how easy is to beat that diversity invited team
Skiter happened. That's it, folks!
Is the American mobile legend player chicken aui brother coz they look alike a lot
ilove tundra❤
Kick skitter, take miracle
What happened?! Anyone noticed "there is no more wraith pact")))
One patch wonder
❤
Blueballed - where is the nouns post game comms?
33 posture gives me nightmares
why? haha
Skiter is cute and Nine looks a bit like a young Tom Hardy.
Hardest choking ever at international event. From going 7_1 in group to lose to a weakass NA diversity team. They need a real coaching and psy staff and not just hiring coach because he was a famous streamer/pro
Come back stronger. It's just a setback. Always face forward!
Still Tundra ❤
What happened at ti12 ? Skiter buy radiance,octarin and solo lose the easy game ( how much money do you make from this 322?)
is topson leaving next season?
It's okay man. TS also choked last TI, but came back stronger this year.
Slack question must be so personal 😂
must show the pugna play
This is ny fave team man, feels sad that nine, top and 33 was dominating the map, tons of space given but for some reason skitter still cant find farm and carry... What happened my man :(
i think in such a short amout of time, u all get together and try to crunsh out a well balanced team - is a very difficult task to take on.
overall it felt to me, the trundra gameplan wasn't working out against this overly hyper aggressiv playstyle of the winning teams. this time around they had a lead and u where bussy fixing other things, but adapting fully in time. this is not a bad thing at all, even if the outcome might be underwhelming on first glance; BUT u improved, switched up lanes added a new mate formed pretty much a new team.
a split up at this point would feel like giving up all the work u've put in sofar. i hope u stay together and try again - with all the learnings and the efford.
Where is the True Sight TI11?
You guys look super strong, its just that some stuff is not quite there, but if you fix it, youll bounce back as champions.
Y'all need wraith pact
now we have pure
This happens, it happened to team spirit last year just get back to it and recover next year.
Honestly just like at 11min when asking topson Ohh how you feel destroying everyone with weird hero's...that absolutely ruined topson after he won ti that and OG notail also caught the same stupid ideas lc pos 5 etc. EVERYONE and STILL everyone says this to topson and now topson is stuck playing the worst heros possible in pubs to try and win because "that's what topson does" if topson played actual strong hero's he could help carry his team
Im not thundra fans, but i enjoy this team gameplay during group stage. You guys are entertaining to watch, stomp almost every game.
I hope this TI teach you guys something, that make this team stronger than ever in the future
Kick Skitter, what happened...
When Valve doesn't make a True sight and you have to make the film yourself
skiter alch🥶🥶🥶💯💯💯💯💯
No more Wraith Pact meta
Анлаки конечно, но всё впереди, Спириты после победы на некст инте тоже отлетели в топ16, по итогу следующий инт забрали
No Eva Elfie buff for skiterdota
what happened was skytter had the level of a Peruvian crusader
What happened?
You guys got sToMpEd bOi!
Skiter god
Where is true sight
11:05
ez arcanas
Only Skitter is a throw-man in the team, just kick him out. I just wasted my BET on that Tundradogs. Lol😄😅😂🤦🤦🤦
не отчаивайтесь❤
Not a fan of the alch build by skitter. U can see he was having a hard time killing people during stun
Tundra couldnt keep up with current meta without their wraithpact pipe meta
kick skiter inveit miracle for carry
k1 god
there was no wraith pact that’s what happened
No wraith pact no TI
Bad draft, weird itemization, and carry missing. This team is still one of the best this past season.
Topson to pos4, Nine - back to mid