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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ค. 2024
- Hey guys, welcome back to the channel. In this video, we talk to Nealy, a physician associate (PA) working in London. We find out how she ended up becoming a physician associate, what the entry requirements are like anningd what her day job is like. Enjoy!
Timestamps
Part 1: Is PA studies for you?
00:32 - Who is Nealy? The whistlestop tour!
01:03 - Is there a recent spike in the number of PAs in the last few years and why?
02:04 - What was Nealy’s moment of inspiration when she first considered becoming a PA?
04:21 - What are the entry requirements for applying for a PA studies degree?
05:40 - Personal statement, aptitude tests, interviews
Part 2: What is the PA studies course like?
07:25 - What is the PA course like?
09:28 - Disease based style of teaching for PA vs traditional teaching in Medicine
Part 3: Life as a PA after university
11:20 - Job allocation after graduation
13:25 - A typical day in the life of a PA at a GP surgery
17:37 - What’s the best and worst thing about being a PA?
How to contact Nealy:
📸Instagram: / aphysicianassociate
Nealy's PA course: / pa2be_uk
📸Instagram: / arun.kiru
🐦Twitter: / arunkirupakaran
📕Facebook: / arun.kirupakaran
Who am I?
My name is Arun, I’m a junior doctor working in London and graduated from Cambridge University 2 years ago. I’ve helped 100s of students over the last 10 years or so get into med school with things like personal statements, picking uni choices, the UCAT & BMAT exams and medical school interviews. I was the lead UCAT & BMAT tutor for Kaplan Test Prep for 5 years and helped write their materials. I started up a company called Easy Medical Interviews to help students for their medical school interviews. I’ve decided to put all my experience over the years onto TH-cam now so its completely free for you guys and hopefully you find it useful!
Hi there, just wondering if you could do a video on ekg review? Approach and assessment? Thanks!
Thank you very much, I like this conversatory. Please, I would like to know what is the best book for Physiology and if it is necessary, and what is the best Colouring book of Physiology, if it is necessary too. I am a Psychologist, but I love this PA role, dealing with people and learning new things constantly.
The perks of the PA job after graduation really highlight the issues with post-grad training in medicine. Much like discussed here, if a PA grad can be seeing unfiltered patient lists in 10 minutes appt's and sharing all the admin/referrals/calls/test results with the GP's after a 2 year Msc and go straight into the job, where is the incentive to go to medical school for 4-6 years, then complete a further 5 years post-grad to become a GP and ultimately spend 10 years reaching the same point? I mean the jobs are 95% identical day to day from the sounds of it. Not to mention the £1800 cost of MRCGP.... I feel like medics are being massively undervalued. However I think it's great for the PA's who rightfully should jump at the opportunity! It highlights that we need change in post-grad training for Dr's.
A PA salary will stagnant whereas a MD could potentially reach a similar wage or even higher after their FY2 e.g. SHO. Let's not mention the potential of a double or even triple the wage during/after speciality training.
MD would be alot more autonomic whereas PAs will initially be supervised alot. Way more opportunities abroad for MDs. Even though job security is good for a PA, its alot more secure for a MD. Generally speaking there is alot of perks of completing the medical programme in the long run. I know of a few PA who have decided to pursue Medicine as a result.
because even GP are specialised. We do not specialise that is the main difference. Yeah the jobs are very similar on a day to day basis upto the level of CT3. Over CT3 when you enter speciality training the roles become clearer.... We are not stealing your job. Promise.
its 3 academic years in 2 calender years and the salary is very poor in the UK ,not to mention they cant prescribe or order xrays
@@robertmacdonald1811 Does a PA do oncall ward cover alone at night like a F1 - CT3 does? No.....the job during the daytime on a weekday is often mindless, calling people, booking scans, documenting etc. Does a PA get called to assess the pt who has suddenly blacked out on the ward or has gone into Fast AF etc? Whilst the "tasks" are simliar in terms of what is seen outwardly, a doctor does very different things from day 1. Youre not stealing a Dr's job but you get to do all the things that drs should definitely be doing - having outpatient clinics better working hours. I dont understand how a PA earns more than a F1 for working less hours and having less responsibility. Thats not a dig a PAs either - PAs are their own profession and good for them that they have negotiated such high salaries !
@@psps2034 IN the ED the PA would assess all of these scenarios- FAST AF, MI, CVA etc but under supervision- that supervision is variable- can be active or passive depending on PA experience. PA's can carry the crash bleep if they have ALS. In regards to pay, once you hit CT3 your pay overshoots ours by far. Its not that we are over paid so much as the FY1 is underpaid.
should we pass the volunteery examination to get a job as PA or else we can directly go into the job
It's best to try and pass it. GMC regulation is coming soon and they'll only regulate PAs that pass nationals. Also, often the better more experienced with PA job employers will require it. So it's worth doing; get it out the way.
Hii!would appreciate if someone cleared my doubts
Im in my last year of high school and im planning to do Bsc and Msc in Physician Assistant in India
if i want to work in the UK or Canada would i be able get a job directly or do i need to go to PA school ?
You can't get work in UK on Indian PA degree. Neither can you apply in a UK PA course of you have already done the degree in it. Better route for you if you want to work in the UK will be do your graduation in life science or health science like biomedical science etc. Then Master's in the UK for PA.
Better option would be to do your PA course in US as it's recognised In Canada and UK too. Good luck
@@ashmash4563 thank you!
@@ashmash4563 Inidan PA course is Physician assistant, which means u are assisting with prep and equipments etc. You are likely to end up in an academic route in uk if u wanted to use that degree. In contrast UK PA course is Physician Associate which means you're not just assisting but working as an Associate to the doctor. which means you pretty much do everything they do (under their supervision which means at all the time you run an independent clinic, a doctor will be there and will act as your supervisor) As an Associate you reduce the doctors wokload by actually doing his job and he is acting more by overseeing several other healthcare professionals like Junior Doctors, Registrars, Physician associate instead of getting caught by seeing a limited number of patients. Hope this makes sense..
Can anyone recommend or explain the difference between the postgraduate diploma and the masters course? I know she mentioned that you can do either, and even if you do the MSc you can decide not to do your thesis, but can anyone offer any advice into which course to apply to?
One difference is in funding. So for a MSc you can receive a £10k postgraduate loan from SFE if it is your first masters. For a postgraduate diploma you are not eligible for this loan. Another difference is that for an MSc you have to complete a Quality Improvement Project, this is not compulsory when studying a postgraduate diploma (as far as I’m aware).
Is it possible getting into PA school with a degree in information technology
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Is it possible for Indian Physician Assistants work in UK? What are the job requirements. Please explain.
Hy sir i need ur guidance so tat i could get enroll myself in medical uni , sir how i would.connect wth u can. I hv ur gmail sir ,??? Plz sir watng
Hello, My name is Benedita and I am an Occupational Therapist. I would love to talk about my role and it’s contribution to healthcare.
I'm from india.. if i study BSC PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT in india, can i come to UK for my masters? What are the the procedures? Will somebody please reply?
You will have to email the universities and find out. In the UK they are currently only taking non medical life science /health science graduates. Only a couple of universities are offering undergrad PA so not sure what will be the solution for you.
your undergrad is already equivalent to the masters,its not an advancement.
@@scarred10 hell : -)
What is the salary like for PA's?
Starting can be from 30k - 38k
Here's a summary of pay and progression for UK PAs? www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/sites/default/files/documents/Physician%20associate_1.pdf
@@ArunKiru Why is the salary so low? Is the income in UK just low in general? A Uber driver in the U.S gets paid more than Physician Associates in UK.
@@DragonRider520 the salary in the uk is generally lower, 30k is considered a good income
@@DragonRider520 in the UK 26k is seen as average. The cost of living is a lot lower, we don't pay for Medical costs, Food is cheaper etc.
Do you think PA will get regulated soon?
The GMC have agreed to take on the role
looking at mid to end 2021 GMC regulation. Great news
What does it mean if PA role is regulated?
@@leobruce7196 prescribing and ordering xrays rights will come next,they can do what theyre trained to do.
Physician’s Assistant?
In the UK its called Physician Associate but yep essentially the same role as a 'Physician Assistant' in the US
@@agb7095 dude,he never said they were anyones assistant,he said physician assistant which is what the profession is called in most countries.Im one in Ireland.
Basically underpaid doctors
They dont have the same responsibilities as a doctor so i wouldnt say they were 'underpaid doctors' lmao, e.g. they cant prescribe medication
PAs are trained to prescribe medications. However, based on the region that the PA serves, there may be some limitations in prescribing controlled substance medications.
@@gogoyo3256 now that GMC reg is agreed, prescribing will come as well as IR(ME)R2000 rights
Nope, they don't get enough training to do the same work as doctors... the pay reflects that
@@je6874 We are not designed to replace anyone- doctors or ANP's but act as a profession in our own right