if they don't have a sorcery speed spell or creature alot of players will wait until the end of the opponents turn to act using their instants, in that case your mana will be untapped again to stifle them, if they crack it on their turn than yes you would be correct you wouldn't be able to.
They have to search, it's not optional, they can fail to find a land because they're searching a hidden zone but they would still have to shuffle regardless
Why the 2/1 split between pyroblast/red elemental blast? I know pyroblast has corner cases where it's better (not relevant to this deck but I love it's interaction with Dack Fayden's emblem - seems like something Seth would like too) - is red elemental blast better in some weird situation?
REB is better when your opponent has Divert, Spellskite or Misdirection. Pyroblast is better in this deck only when you don't have sensible targets for REB and need to hit threshold to grow Mongoose. In this deck I think REB is more likely to be superior than Pyroblast so I would play 1/2 split instead. Split is played mainly because of Cabal Therapy and Meddling Mage and it also helps sometimes against other effects, which care about card's name.
jaret pocsik Legacy deck lists aren't set in stone, especially tempo style decks like this. There is always variation in the actual numbers/threats, and sideboard options are so varied you can mix and match whatever you think works best for the meta. The best way to look at this is that it's an example of a rug-tempo deck and how it wants to play; cantrips, cheap threats and disruption.
Totally agree with you. It is definitely a format that you can come back to with the same deck after a long time and still do well with just based on the fact that you play your deck well.
Side notes: 1. this deck is much, much worse if you lose the dice 2. this is the most extreme form of tempo deck in legacy. It literally has the poorest lategame in the format. 3. Therefore, it's very hard to play, because one slight mistake (like a wrongly arranged brainstorm) can seriously put you behind.
Colgate Lampinen ahem...sorta. It plays less lands because it can operate on two lands. However, its lategame is very poor. Every Canadian Threshold's goal is never get to lategame. They just drop a single threat and coast to coast you with it, while disrupting everything you do. If any deck gets a chance to play against this deck (like actually casting some serious spells) they are much likely to win the game. edit: on a sidenote, i'm not a hater, i love canadian. I'm just saying that 12 medium-sized vanilla creatures and 4 bolts are not what I call "monster lategame".
Black lotus is banned in legacy. It's really only legal in vintage (and Canadian Highlander and probably other formats I don't know - is it legal in old school/'93/'94?) and only as a 1 of.
Sheesh look at your own website's legacy meta game when picking a "tier" deck. Rug delver aint even in the meta anymore. It's all about grixis delver now.
Who is doing the illustrations for the new thumbnails? They are great.
I really want to see more legacy played. This deck has my vote!
Thumbnails are looking great!
These new thumbnails, so damn good 😂😂
Pleeeeeease!!! I miss legacy coverage so much!
Seth says that delver transforms pretty consistently. But I have to think about all the times the delver fizzles during seth's streams.
There's not Brainstorm to set it up though most of the time.
Are you going to do a stream on this deck?
Mongoose and Tarmo are just not the threats they once were.
Pretty sure grixis, bug and pure izzet strats are just better delver decks now.
How do you play a Delver on the play and then stifle your opponent's first land?
if they don't have a sorcery speed spell or creature alot of players will wait until the end of the opponents turn to act using their instants, in that case your mana will be untapped again to stifle them, if they crack it on their turn than yes you would be correct you wouldn't be able to.
cory1991 That so true. You got me there mate. Thanks!
what a delightful agony we shall inflict! go Thresh!
It's basically UG splashing R for bolt tho
Fujiclodo plus 60% of the sideboard
Oh yeah, that's where the R is...
loved playing this deck in legacy gauntlet
I would love to see this deck played. This would be the deck I'd play in legacy if I had the money
Recently got into legacy and started playing this :p I love it. Canadian threshold is great.
Alpha Sylvan Library says "lose 4 lives". That's fucking great.
BigBoatDeluxe Old MTG templating is my favorite thing. Their are so many cards that are worded so poorly
One thing you didn't mention about submerge is that it's basically a free kill spell if your opponent cracks a fetch land.
Well, the opponent can choose not to search I think so they don't have to shuffle but if so you're still killing a land.
They have to search, it's not optional, they can fail to find a land because they're searching a hidden zone but they would still have to shuffle regardless
Why the 2/1 split between pyroblast/red elemental blast? I know pyroblast has corner cases where it's better (not relevant to this deck but I love it's interaction with Dack Fayden's emblem - seems like something Seth would like too) - is red elemental blast better in some weird situation?
REB is better when your opponent has Divert, Spellskite or Misdirection. Pyroblast is better in this deck only when you don't have sensible targets for REB and need to hit threshold to grow Mongoose. In this deck I think REB is more likely to be superior than Pyroblast so I would play 1/2 split instead. Split is played mainly because of Cabal Therapy and Meddling Mage and it also helps sometimes against other effects, which care about card's name.
Winter orb is such a miracles hoser I am surprised not to see any in the 75.
jaret pocsik Legacy deck lists aren't set in stone, especially tempo style decks like this. There is always variation in the actual numbers/threats, and sideboard options are so varied you can mix and match whatever you think works best for the meta. The best way to look at this is that it's an example of a rug-tempo deck and how it wants to play; cantrips, cheap threats and disruption.
Totally agree with you. It is definitely a format that you can come back to with the same deck after a long time and still do well with just based on the fact that you play your deck well.
hobitfromhell Well put.
always like watching seth play legacy
I need to see this played
please play this so i can count how many times your delver doesnt flip.
Tarmo's head in the thumbnail looks quite phallic. (Mara's boyfriend?)
Also please play more legacy!!! :p preferably this :p
This deck is great fun
Please play this!!!
i want to see to stifle some fetchlands
Sure play this. In last podcast you admitted it is fun to play this kind of fair deck, but not fun to play against it.
please play this!
Side notes: 1. this deck is much, much worse if you lose the dice 2. this is the most extreme form of tempo deck in legacy. It literally has the poorest lategame in the format. 3. Therefore, it's very hard to play, because one slight mistake (like a wrongly arranged brainstorm) can seriously put you behind.
The deck is basically designed to operate on the smallest margins possible.
It plays less lands than most decks, so if opponent can't trade their spells in better ratio than 1 for 1, this is going to win late game too.
Colgate Lampinen ahem...sorta. It plays less lands because it can operate on two lands. However, its lategame is very poor. Every Canadian Threshold's goal is never get to lategame. They just drop a single threat and coast to coast you with it, while disrupting everything you do. If any deck gets a chance to play against this deck (like actually casting some serious spells) they are much likely to win the game.
edit: on a sidenote, i'm not a hater, i love canadian. I'm just saying that 12 medium-sized vanilla creatures and 4 bolts are not what I call "monster lategame".
I would like these a lot more if it weren't as much as a term tuition at the college i go to lol. About 1000 less, but still.
Play!!!
temur delver :0
Why no fatal push?
Rafał Maciejewski because it's not playing black?
Gurmag Angler / Tasigur issues?
Noice
this deck curves out at 2 lol
black lotus no eh
Black lotus is banned in legacy. It's really only legal in vintage (and Canadian Highlander and probably other formats I don't know - is it legal in old school/'93/'94?) and only as a 1 of.
Justin Postlewaite black lotus is forbitten i'm japanase
i donty undertandee
gabriele gallo black lotus is not legal in legacy
Caleb Yetman my friend i don't undersendy
Please play more legacy with decks like this, and not glass cannon uninteractive stuff like Laylines.
7401st view! woo!
Sheesh look at your own website's legacy meta game when picking a "tier" deck. Rug delver aint even in the meta anymore. It's all about grixis delver now.
The content is good but this guy's voice intonations are unbearable.