i forgot to do one on jacko lmao to summarize jacko for anyone wanting a look into the character: her gameplan is set up huts, let minions control neutral or save you from neutral interactions (e.g. the air minion is powerful vs general air movement) and just make it harder for the opponent to play with things like aegis shield. shes pretty much considered a huge knowledge check character due to how massively different her game is vs someone who actively gives up situations to kill huts vs if they only try to combo her and ignore killing the huts. whats kinda interesting about her is that her footsies buttons are actually kind of underrated and she can fight some characters in neutral solo pretty OK, but her reward is actively low without minions. with minions, though, she becomes a lot stronger with way more combo tools and a lot of burst safe routes. the goal is to get all her minions out and just stomping your opponent out in the corner, which usually means you want higher lvled minions for your combos and pressure, which means you want your huts out as long as possible. shes extremely fucked up if she corners you with enough minions and requires a shitton of work to get out when shes already set up, and is definitely a contender for one of the most fucked up offensive situations when she has everything started
For anyone interested picking up Ram, she is incredibly straightforward if you don't over complicate it. Button combination/Seq normals. For P and K buttons she doesn't gets gatlings and special cancels but she gets these instead. Generally it start with a normal button, being plus, (being plus), ends with overhead/low/launcher mid. The main difference besides the lack of special cancels out of (or into it) that Ram can just mash these on whiff you don't need to make contact with them (like most normals gatlings). Which makes them IB-ing much harder (Ram's 5P is virtually unseeable in Xrd's visual noise) . So you just mash them and have fun. They give no meter. Sword deployment: You're throwing out only H Sword in neutral, both sword in the corner and in combos. She can either call the swords with a manual command or with Rev Specials (214HS/214S). They can hit them or you to disappear. You can deploy/recall cancel from most normals not just the sword ones. Sword normals: S normals are horizontal, the H ones are vertical. 2S and 2H are both, they're very slow and unsafe in exchange. All sword normals give an insane amount of Tension (slightly less than 16%) on contact and can gatling them to each other the same way like any normal Xrd character. 2S and 2H doesn't have a swordless version and they're generally very unsafe without meter at their own. But they're covering each other well when you have two swords. Swing them but with caution. The H sword normals without sword are good pressure normals, especially the aforementioned sword covering you. J.P and J.K: They're fast, they have insanely good hitbox/hurtboxes and function like normal Guilty Gear air normals. Abuse them. Command normals: Your command normals are an unreactable low and overhead, Space them nicely to not get bodied on hit since neither of them are cancellable. D Buttons. 5D is a long range overhead. 2D is a very small (both hurtbox and hitbox) launcher low, J.D is complicated but nobody will ever punish it so just do it. Special moves: Dauro. Forward advancing safeish move with two version. Juggles, makes your special cancellable normals safeish, does your taxes. Cherish it but don't spam it on block the regular one is prone to IB-d. Gives no meter. Cassius: Upwards fireball. Covers H sword deployment and acts like a budget 5H. Also your safest special to cancel into if they in the curve area. Gives meter. Flama Cargo: Launcher command grab. If they'e blocking too much just grab them. Gives meter. Sildo Detruo: Very slow very forward advancing overhead. If the sword covers you you can use it, but otherwise everyone will throw it on reaction. Gives meter, but it doesn't matter. You have like four better overhead options. Martelli and Forpelli: Anti footsie tool and they're cancellable into each other or sword deployment. They're fast, disjoint and give you a lot of meter. You need at least one sword to perform them. Overdrives: Calvados: Unreactable beam, which is mostly unpunishable on block/whiff unless you're doing it point blank. Does insane regular and chip damage. It is also Strike invul. Needs both swords. For the latter part you will use it rarely. Trance: The meat grinder. You will never hit anyone with it raw. Either do it on an OTG opponent or just to make them block for a solid two seconds. Gives you like two free mixup option at least. You need both sword to be deployed to use it. Insane checkmate potential. Explode: Reversal super which OTGs, and moves forward. Like Mortobato in Strive it is extremely fast has good range. The additional perk of being near impossible to whiffpunish on reaction (she dashes very forward). Also OTGs in combos. The damage is not Mortobato like though. It does not depend on your swords, so you ALWAYS can use it. You can make all of them more invincible and do even more damage with spending the whole Burst Bar. Combos: Sword normals and most of your special moves gives you a very lenient juggle. You can put together an alright combo by trial and error. Mash the button combinations them in some order and guarantees either good oki, stagger or launch for not too much damage. Optimizing it is hard but you won't lose much by not doing it.
As a Bedman main since day 1 of Sign, I've watched it get nerfed so many times that I joke about nerfing Bedman's 6P being ArcSys' balancing solution to everything, evem after swapping to Strive.
Rams have been winning top eights in Xrd recently. The last one at CEOtaku was blowout. I love that about Xrd given how different characters are that matchups are pretty wild in diversity.
Hey Romolla, what character should I play if I want to be a gigantic guy with huge muscles who also has a very large damage command grab. Despite being slow and not having the best movement options, he can still be a massive threat, as the moment he gets in your healthbar can be in danger.
1:08:45 It still fucking hurts. I picked up Bedman about 6 months ago and I've had moderate success, but it just hurts learning more about how he was before.
Picked up Xrd just for Bedman, gonna grind until rollback comes out. He may be trash gameplay-wise, but he's S-tier style-wise. So we get to actually earn our wins, and look baller doing it, too.
It's messed up, bedmin is probably the most fun fighting game character I've ever played, like his gameplan and playstyle is such a cool combination of disparate fightgame mechanics (traps, multi-directional airdash, bigbody/heavyweight) and I've never found anything that quite scratches the same itch. But playing at locals and having to rely so heavily on knowledge checks and tomfoolery to eke out wins against people at the same skill level, and then getting smashed by the older players who know the matchup hurts : ( But it's still so incredibly fun that I won't ever stop playing him lmao
I don't know if I'd be able to play Xrd. Strive is my first (and still only) fighting game, and Xrd looks so much more complicated that it's pretty daunting. But I'm also pretty curious because it does look really cool. If I do, I'll probably play Elphelt because I think she's cute, and I refuse to feel bad for it.
If you wanna try Xrd, just try Xrd. When rollback beta starts will be THE BEST time to try out the game since there's gonna be a bunch of other newcomers like you and you'll have a high chance to match up with eachother. If you keep waiting with trying out the game until after the population has gone down again there's mostly gonna be just the Xrd vets left who will mop the floor with you (you can still learn in this kind of environment ofc but it's gonna take more work). Do not feel like you gotta learn every single mechanic day one, just take it slow with one thing at a time and you'll get the hang of it eventually. Also, if you manage to learn Xrd you'll be way more comfortable in trying to learn other fighting games with similar levels of complexity.
@@Eldred91 Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, that the best time will be right after the rollback update/beta because there'll be a lot of other new people just figuring it out, too.
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 i disagree i dont think elphelt is easy. It takes a lot of grinding training mode to get those shotgun loops down with the perfect reloads.
I always thought Xrd looked fun, but I was brand new to fighting games and way too intimidated by it. I always regretted not jumping into it, I'm glad I get to come back to it and play my favorite iteration of Sol.
As a jack o main coming from strive who wants to play jack o in rev 2, it feels really really weird. She still looks fun as hell tho, and I plan on maining her, but seeing her rev 2 version really made me appreciate her strive rework even more
I have no interest in playing xrd but this video is really interesting to understand the game and the use of actual matches to show characters instead of training mode is great.
1:15:16 Nah, tier strength matters a lot in this game. You can't put FAB as an example of Pot being reasonable when he's so good that his Pot gets put on a separate tier on the lists as a joke, also when you see him play he needs to instantblock every single hit coming at him just to have enough meter to run his game and he's never even made top 8 in evo. It's so bad.
"hes never even made top 8 in evo" is one of the worst metrics you could ever attach to character strength. ignoring the fact he got 9th multiple times, in traditional fighting games the gap between tiers is so significant that this discussion does not even exist. it would be "he has to instant block everything for the chance at top 32" in a tournament with 600-700+ people.
Man. Xrd is crazy. I play Kazuya in Tekken mostly because he can be taken just about as far as your execution can take you; and like, most Xrd characters can match that (is there any character with a triple just frame?) combo theory and level of freestyling. In Tekken, if you get a wack ass wall angle, and recognize it, you can extend a combo you would have dropped. Pretty much every combo feels like that in Xrd lol. You pick up one weird hit, and you feel like a god. There are definitely super difficult inputs too, like haehyun loops are crazy. +R def feels like that too, but like, to the point that no one knows for sure whats happening 100% of the time lol. Bonkers.
johnny actually has the highest return damage wise on average. with lvl2 or 3, any hit leads to a high damage combo, even his throw. most of his bnb's don't use meter because his meter is much better spent on other more op moves (zwei, 6k, baccus, whiff cancel). another thing that makes johnny stupidly strong is that lvl2/3 is an absurdly good whiff punish poke, and also allows for 1hit hit-confirms because you already input most of the motion for the mist cancel.
I'm happy I'll be able to touch Xrd again after bouncing off it hard years ago. Really like venom and it'll be neat to mess around with him, as I like training mode. But I gotta admit, Xrd makes me appreciate Strive a lot more too. Needing to learn 956 motions for IAD, manual microdashing, and full jump combos as BnBs are rough and just not my bag. Hell, I actually hate jumping entirely- didn't expect to like strives gravity and weight. But I'll deal because poolball set ups are *so* sick. I really do hope venom comes to strive even if he's less crazy because they did a damn good job with Bridget- she feels good and kept a good amount of mechanics. As for Xrd, I'll just have to see if it's not the end of the world that I'm bad at IAD and jump cancel combos, lol.
Uff, this game it's so big and deep that I barely know where to start! I think I'm just going to take my time mashing some buttons, unlocking stuff and the wait for the netcode beta. Don't want to be overwhelmed.
I may be a uneducated but as you mention , answer nuetral is underrated. But I really love how he play a hit and run game for time then go balls to the wall when he has cards or meter to play with. Personally to me it makes game plan simple for me to understand
you made raven f.s sound like it always connects into 2h but that only works on counter or crouching hit, which is not a situation unique to raven being able to meterlessly convert off that
Take a shot every time you hear "if you don't IB, you're fucked". I'm looking forward to go back to Xrd and gimmick people out for a little bit until we can get Venom, Dizzy or Raven in Strive.
I've been struggling with character pick for pretty long time. I wanted to play Johnny, since he is technical and somewhat respected top tier. People say his mist stance treasure hunt is his hardest stuff wich turned out to be pretty easy, but for me his jDSDD is main problem. I've spend around 5 hours trying this wall combo and still can't land it consistantly. So I'll have to stick with Elphelt.
I really wouldnt put Bedman in hard to pick up, he has some of the easiest universal bnb combos. Sure, his movement and rewind might be a bit odd at first, but if you are a new player picking him up you won´t know anything different, meaning learning it will come just as naturally as picking any other char up. Oh and he only requires 236/214 moves.
I really like playing Baiken on Xrd even though it was my first FG, and I loved watching JP clips of her to try and learn new ways to play her, but after a while two of the top players that used Baiken (only name I remember is Sharon) stoped playing her. I always assumed it was because she was too hard and inconsistent for top level. Now with rollback and higher expectations on myself I might not like her inconsistencies on combos, but I do hope more Baiken players pop up
another reason chipp is WAY stronger here than in strive is cuz of Find Me, where he literally goes invisible. I play him and i feel vile using that shit lol
Strive is the first one I played, but I have Xrd and I like to play around with it. I think I'd like to learn I-no since she was my main in Strive, but I can't help but be a doomer after the nerfs. And I was looking forward to a more playable Baiken, but now I feel like the result is actually kind of boring and XRD Baiken is kind of more interesting. She has all these counters, while Strive Baiken just has a basic Smash Bros Marth counter. Also, Dizzy is just cool, those are the three I'm looking at.
Play I-No. As Romolla said, she’s top 3 in Xrd. They did her so dirty with this last Strive patch. I’d rather take an HCL nerf and leave Stroke as it is than an HCL buff and a Stroke nerf.
Am very happy about Xrd rollback. My favorite characters are Baiken and Slayer, but since I’m not an Xrd vet (very casual player because of the netcode) I can’t execute their combos online (as they’re both BASICALLY link combos) I can’t wait to get some good practice in. I absolutely adore kuchinachi/ Azami as well as k-pilebunker combos and will actually be able to start using them.
While I feel familiar with the fg and it's dialect, I have questions: What is RPS? What are the yellow squares on the hitboxes? Will you do a video on Xrd mechanics such as Blitz, Faultless defence, Dead Angle, Mortal counter etc? Great video as usual! I love your Vtuber avatar 💜
yellow = Pushbox/collusion box, the two push boxes of opposing characters can't overlap. They will be pushed away from each other until the pushboxes don't overlap anymore.
I'm definitely in the minority for preferring Strive's Ram to Xrd's. Back when I tried to learn Xrd, she was the main character that appealed to me, but the sheer amount of nonsense I needed to grind in training to even get my foot in the door of basic play was just discouraging and burnt me out before I ever really got started. That was years ago now, and I'm a better player today in countless ways than I was back then, so I'll give her another try. Maybe try Ky and Sin as backups, we'll just have to see
They're just completely different characters. If you were an old Ram player, and got new Ram, it would be like a Ryu player playing him in V but in 6 they made him a grappler. If you like grapplers, that's good for you, but if you like Ryu, you're like "I wish it was more like old Ryu"
@@NeoBoneGirl This was me being an Xrd Ram player trying her in Strive. Just wasn't the same at all and she got boring for me pretty quickly (very linear and one-dimensional gameplay). So happy that Xrd is getting rollback and being back to playing old Ram again.
@@billyboleson2830 No VCL, VCL loops, fast fall VCL, 214H, IAD combos, 663, shitter movement, and FDC are all missing from her. Must of that stuff allowed her to play so freefrom especially during combos. It also rewarded optimization and lab time by allowing you to do different combo routes to max out damage on certain characters. All the while being not being too difficult to play, you just have to get IAD combos and get use to movement down.
pretty casual at this game, but found fun in haehyun. They seemed simple enough for me, and i landed i think a "Rekka" for the first time on them in a match with a friend one time.
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 That's not what a rekka is. A rekka is a number of successive special moves, where the later special moves in the chain are only accessible from the move(s) before it in the same chain. Each special move in the chain is unique and is definitely not a repeat of another special move.
You described Elphelt as approachable on a baseline level but needing to learn a lot of shit to be competitive so shouldn't she be in "easy to pick up, hard to master"?
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Yeah, exactly, if you want to master her you gotta study hard. She's easy if you want to just press buttons, but high-level play requires a lot of work.
Pick Jam, go forward, kill. I'm so excited to be able to actually properly learn my alltime favorite fighting game character, Xrd is the game I learned the absolute basics in, like actually doing a DP input and IADing, but I never got a chance to learn it properly cause I picked it up one or two years before Strive came out, so the community was small and the netcode was bad. Now I finally get to play people and learn this game and that makes me really happy.
I worry that it might break the game... but honestly, I want it too. Dashing was always something I had trouble with in anime games, and instant-air-dashes have been a nightmare for me too. I wonder if it's possible to play without them to even a mediocre level...
@@mattscartozzi6697 yeah, a game kinda has to be built around it. But God, it makes everything so much easier. Hell, even just advancing guard- dash blocking. it's astounding how trivial it is to do in strive, but it's a real step up in execution without the macro.
Which character would be good to pick up for a Strive Testament player? I only messed around a little with xrd and the game was already mostly dead when I bought it but the netcode is a great occasion to actually learn this game, I'm hyped
What do you like about Testament? I'd maybe suggest Raven since he also has big mid-range buttons, an interesting projectile game, an edgy design and also gets empowered by meeting certain conditions.
Yeah having some big normals and projectiles without being a full zoner is what I like about them, althought I tend to suck at doing longer combos Raven is definetely interesting, I'll give him a try
So excited that I can finally try Venom, always wanted to but never played this game. And I'm a training mode monster anyway so that doesn't bother me.
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 that's just... Not true Jack-O' is easy to play for sure, her combos are dumb (rather, they don't exist), but her way to deal with blockstrings, neutral, 22HX shenanigans etc is way too different to the rest of the cast, not talking about her is only acceptable cause only people who mains her care (here, that's me, the fool who plays Jack-O') Jack-O' is easy, not very strong, but her being kinda bad is not even the main reason why it's hard to win as her. She's hard to win with cause her gimmick takes VERY long to become a win condition, and her normals are just ways to steal time while minions spawn and houses level up basically.
hard disagree with jams placement, her gattling table, speed and easy to understand offence is what got me into fighting games edit: okay that' makes sense
I enjoy both Jam and Elphelt, for their personalities and gameplay. But Strive is superior in one particular way to Rev2, and nobody will ever, EVER change my mind on this. Strive doesn't have Stun. Rev2 does. Therefore, Rev2 is inherently less fun to play on the backfoot because of that mechanic. And to people who want Slayer back... why? He's mean.
List elphelt as hard to learn easy to master, proceed to talk about how she is so easy to pick up that someone could just first time her with shotgun only. I have not missed Elphelt discourse even slightly 🤡
i really want to sit through this video and hear your perspective on all this stuff, but I legitimately can't watch this at home or work because of how embarassing and hard to explain it would be for someone to walk in on me looking at this vtuber shit im not asking you to change your content if this is what you're set on. id be a very active viewer of your stuff if you weren't doing this cow thing, but i guess im not the target audience.
i forgot to do one on jacko lmao
to summarize jacko for anyone wanting a look into the character: her gameplan is set up huts, let minions control neutral or save you from neutral interactions (e.g. the air minion is powerful vs general air movement) and just make it harder for the opponent to play with things like aegis shield. shes pretty much considered a huge knowledge check character due to how massively different her game is vs someone who actively gives up situations to kill huts vs if they only try to combo her and ignore killing the huts. whats kinda interesting about her is that her footsies buttons are actually kind of underrated and she can fight some characters in neutral solo pretty OK, but her reward is actively low without minions. with minions, though, she becomes a lot stronger with way more combo tools and a lot of burst safe routes. the goal is to get all her minions out and just stomping your opponent out in the corner, which usually means you want higher lvled minions for your combos and pressure, which means you want your huts out as long as possible. shes extremely fucked up if she corners you with enough minions and requires a shitton of work to get out when shes already set up, and is definitely a contender for one of the most fucked up offensive situations when she has everything started
She also has simple inputs so she’s pretty easy to learn
What's the website you were using at 40:10 to find vods of matches?
Are there any notable Jacko players to s̶t̶e̶a̶l̶ learn from?
Im happy you didn't explain jack-o in the video so we now have less of a chance of more xrd jack-o mains
@@OwNAvenged keeponrock
I am so glad I can finally play venom outside of 13 frame delay. The setups will fill the screen and no one can stop me:
these strive kids are NOT ready to be hit by zwei YRC >> 40% combo
@@itsyaboi1245 ah xrd YRC my beloved
Well you could've always played +R 🤔
But do you call your shots?
I thought you were brian_F
I feel severely disappointed
“Look at how happy Hotashi is.
He’s like “I just unblockabled someone” “
Lmfaooooo
For anyone interested picking up Ram, she is incredibly straightforward if you don't over complicate it.
Button combination/Seq normals.
For P and K buttons she doesn't gets gatlings and special cancels but she gets these instead. Generally it start with a normal button, being plus, (being plus), ends with overhead/low/launcher mid. The main difference besides the lack of special cancels out of (or into it) that Ram can just mash these on whiff you don't need to make contact with them (like most normals gatlings). Which makes them IB-ing much harder (Ram's 5P is virtually unseeable in Xrd's visual noise) .
So you just mash them and have fun. They give no meter.
Sword deployment:
You're throwing out only H Sword in neutral, both sword in the corner and in combos. She can either call the swords with a manual command or with Rev Specials (214HS/214S). They can hit them or you to disappear. You can deploy/recall cancel from most normals not just the sword ones.
Sword normals:
S normals are horizontal, the H ones are vertical. 2S and 2H are both, they're very slow and unsafe in exchange. All sword normals give an insane amount of Tension (slightly less than 16%) on contact and can gatling them to each other the same way like any normal Xrd character. 2S and 2H doesn't have a swordless version and they're generally very unsafe without meter at their own. But they're covering each other well when you have two swords. Swing them but with caution.
The H sword normals without sword are good pressure normals, especially the aforementioned sword covering you.
J.P and J.K: They're fast, they have insanely good hitbox/hurtboxes and function like normal Guilty Gear air normals. Abuse them.
Command normals:
Your command normals are an unreactable low and overhead, Space them nicely to not get bodied on hit since neither of them are cancellable.
D Buttons. 5D is a long range overhead. 2D is a very small (both hurtbox and hitbox) launcher low, J.D is complicated but nobody will ever punish it so just do it.
Special moves:
Dauro. Forward advancing safeish move with two version. Juggles, makes your special cancellable normals safeish, does your taxes. Cherish it but don't spam it on block the regular one is prone to IB-d. Gives no meter.
Cassius: Upwards fireball. Covers H sword deployment and acts like a budget 5H. Also your safest special to cancel into if they in the curve area. Gives meter.
Flama Cargo: Launcher command grab. If they'e blocking too much just grab them. Gives meter.
Sildo Detruo: Very slow very forward advancing overhead. If the sword covers you you can use it, but otherwise everyone will throw it on reaction. Gives meter, but it doesn't matter. You have like four better overhead options.
Martelli and Forpelli: Anti footsie tool and they're cancellable into each other or sword deployment. They're fast, disjoint and give you a lot of meter. You need at least one sword to perform them.
Overdrives:
Calvados:
Unreactable beam, which is mostly unpunishable on block/whiff unless you're doing it point blank. Does insane regular and chip damage. It is also Strike invul. Needs both swords. For the latter part you will use it rarely.
Trance: The meat grinder. You will never hit anyone with it raw. Either do it on an OTG opponent or just to make them block for a solid two seconds. Gives you like two free mixup option at least. You need both sword to be deployed to use it. Insane checkmate potential.
Explode:
Reversal super which OTGs, and moves forward. Like Mortobato in Strive it is extremely fast has good range. The additional perk of being near impossible to whiffpunish on reaction (she dashes very forward). Also OTGs in combos. The damage is not Mortobato like though. It does not depend on your swords, so you ALWAYS can use it.
You can make all of them more invincible and do even more damage with spending the whole Burst Bar.
Combos:
Sword normals and most of your special moves gives you a very lenient juggle. You can put together an alright combo by trial and error. Mash the button combinations them in some order and guarantees either good oki, stagger or launch for not too much damage. Optimizing it is hard but you won't lose much by not doing it.
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i felt nauseous looking at how bad bedman's 6p is. what a ghoulish move
As a Bedman main since day 1 of Sign, I've watched it get nerfed so many times that I joke about nerfing Bedman's 6P being ArcSys' balancing solution to everything, evem after swapping to Strive.
Agreed this ver of I-No feels incredible after playing her in strive - All my I-No wishes came true at the cost of the dash button
Rams have been winning top eights in Xrd recently. The last one at CEOtaku was blowout. I love that about Xrd given how different characters are that matchups are pretty wild in diversity.
GLORIOUS CONTENT FROM THE DIVINE BOVINE
30:04 is the timestamp for sin/sol for anyone who needs it, it's broken in the description
Thank you!
Hey Romolla, what character should I play if I want to be a gigantic guy with huge muscles who also has a very large damage command grab. Despite being slow and not having the best movement options, he can still be a massive threat, as the moment he gets in your healthbar can be in danger.
Answer 👍
definitely not answer, potemkin or slayer
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It still fucking hurts. I picked up Bedman about 6 months ago and I've had moderate success, but it just hurts learning more about how he was before.
Picked up Xrd just for Bedman, gonna grind until rollback comes out. He may be trash gameplay-wise, but he's S-tier style-wise. So we get to actually earn our wins, and look baller doing it, too.
It's messed up, bedmin is probably the most fun fighting game character I've ever played, like his gameplan and playstyle is such a cool combination of disparate fightgame mechanics (traps, multi-directional airdash, bigbody/heavyweight) and I've never found anything that quite scratches the same itch. But playing at locals and having to rely so heavily on knowledge checks and tomfoolery to eke out wins against people at the same skill level, and then getting smashed by the older players who know the matchup hurts : (
But it's still so incredibly fun that I won't ever stop playing him lmao
Damn girl not stopping with the content
its a whole dude...
Ram may be bad but she gave me my first ever rage quit in a fighting game because Calvados is funny in delay so she holds a spot in my heart.
I don't know if I'd be able to play Xrd. Strive is my first (and still only) fighting game, and Xrd looks so much more complicated that it's pretty daunting. But I'm also pretty curious because it does look really cool. If I do, I'll probably play Elphelt because I think she's cute, and I refuse to feel bad for it.
Elphelt is easy as fuck and contender for best character in the game, good choice.
If you wanna try Xrd, just try Xrd. When rollback beta starts will be THE BEST time to try out the game since there's gonna be a bunch of other newcomers like you and you'll have a high chance to match up with eachother. If you keep waiting with trying out the game until after the population has gone down again there's mostly gonna be just the Xrd vets left who will mop the floor with you (you can still learn in this kind of environment ofc but it's gonna take more work).
Do not feel like you gotta learn every single mechanic day one, just take it slow with one thing at a time and you'll get the hang of it eventually. Also, if you manage to learn Xrd you'll be way more comfortable in trying to learn other fighting games with similar levels of complexity.
@@Eldred91 Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, that the best time will be right after the rollback update/beta because there'll be a lot of other new people just figuring it out, too.
its only as daunting as you make it out to be. Just try out the tutorial and the trials. theyre fun on their own
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 i disagree i dont think elphelt is easy. It takes a lot of grinding training mode to get those shotgun loops down with the perfect reloads.
I always thought Xrd looked fun, but I was brand new to fighting games and way too intimidated by it. I always regretted not jumping into it, I'm glad I get to come back to it and play my favorite iteration of Sol.
As a jack o main coming from strive who wants to play jack o in rev 2, it feels really really weird. She still looks fun as hell tho, and I plan on maining her, but seeing her rev 2 version really made me appreciate her strive rework even more
I'm probably one of the only few who prefer old Jack-O to her Strive iteration. Minion bs aside there's something just really fun about her D inputs.
Strive's Jack O is just easier Venom
I have no interest in playing xrd but this video is really interesting to understand the game and the use of actual matches to show characters instead of training mode is great.
As a Blazblue player, thanks for this! I’m looking forward to trying XRD.
Romolla makes the best informative videos, this and the first punic war video are so good, I hope you keep these coming!
1:15:16
Nah, tier strength matters a lot in this game. You can't put FAB as an example of Pot being reasonable when he's so good that his Pot gets put on a separate tier on the lists as a joke, also when you see him play he needs to instantblock every single hit coming at him just to have enough meter to run his game and he's never even made top 8 in evo. It's so bad.
"hes never even made top 8 in evo" is one of the worst metrics you could ever attach to character strength. ignoring the fact he got 9th multiple times, in traditional fighting games the gap between tiers is so significant that this discussion does not even exist. it would be "he has to instant block everything for the chance at top 32" in a tournament with 600-700+ people.
anywhere below the highest level tier strength barely matters. but yes at the highest level playing potemkin is just sad, especially certain matchups
Holy shit. You made an Xrd character guide vid!
I'm subbing Milk Queen.
Haeyun for strive
Thank you for releasing this, it'll be a good refresher/ introduction video :D
Thanks for making this video!
Started watching deb to learn testament and now I binge everything 😂
Man. Xrd is crazy. I play Kazuya in Tekken mostly because he can be taken just about as far as your execution can take you; and like, most Xrd characters can match that (is there any character with a triple just frame?) combo theory and level of freestyling. In Tekken, if you get a wack ass wall angle, and recognize it, you can extend a combo you would have dropped. Pretty much every combo feels like that in Xrd lol. You pick up one weird hit, and you feel like a god. There are definitely super difficult inputs too, like haehyun loops are crazy. +R def feels like that too, but like, to the point that no one knows for sure whats happening 100% of the time lol. Bonkers.
Ram has just frames with her claw special
johnny actually has the highest return damage wise on average. with lvl2 or 3, any hit leads to a high damage combo, even his throw. most of his bnb's don't use meter because his meter is much better spent on other more op moves (zwei, 6k, baccus, whiff cancel). another thing that makes johnny stupidly strong is that lvl2/3 is an absurdly good whiff punish poke, and also allows for 1hit hit-confirms because you already input most of the motion for the mist cancel.
I'm happy I'll be able to touch Xrd again after bouncing off it hard years ago. Really like venom and it'll be neat to mess around with him, as I like training mode. But I gotta admit, Xrd makes me appreciate Strive a lot more too. Needing to learn 956 motions for IAD, manual microdashing, and full jump combos as BnBs are rough and just not my bag. Hell, I actually hate jumping entirely- didn't expect to like strives gravity and weight. But I'll deal because poolball set ups are *so* sick. I really do hope venom comes to strive even if he's less crazy because they did a damn good job with Bridget- she feels good and kept a good amount of mechanics.
As for Xrd, I'll just have to see if it's not the end of the world that I'm bad at IAD and jump cancel combos, lol.
Uff, this game it's so big and deep that I barely know where to start! I think I'm just going to take my time mashing some buttons, unlocking stuff and the wait for the netcode beta. Don't want to be overwhelmed.
Sol, all day everyday, baby!
As a new player ram player, she’s tough but fun af, the learning curve is worth it.
I may be a uneducated but as you mention , answer nuetral is underrated. But I really love how he play a hit and run game for time then go balls to the wall when he has cards or meter to play with. Personally to me it makes game plan simple for me to understand
28:22 I feel like asking how often moments like this happen would be interesting
you made raven f.s sound like it always connects into 2h but that only works on counter or crouching hit, which is not a situation unique to raven being able to meterlessly convert off that
Xrd I-No is peak
Ino but she can actually deal damage consistently unlike plus r and strive lol
Take a shot every time you hear "if you don't IB, you're fucked". I'm looking forward to go back to Xrd and gimmick people out for a little bit until we can get Venom, Dizzy or Raven in Strive.
You *know* these characters ain't getting in lmao
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Maybe not Raven, but Dizzy and Venom are definitely popular enough. Specially Dizzy, that's just a matter of when.
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 they might come back, but they'll probably be reworked to the point of being unrecognisable.
I am here in 2024 to inform you that we are getting both Dizzy AND Venom in a single season pass 🐐
step 1: pick potemkin
step 2: never look back
Amen
"Ky is the same but he has Grinder"
This is so funny to my gay ass
Thank you for the video!
I've been struggling with character pick for pretty long time.
I wanted to play Johnny, since he is technical and somewhat respected top tier. People say his mist stance treasure hunt is his hardest stuff wich turned out to be pretty easy, but for me his jDSDD is main problem. I've spend around 5 hours trying this wall combo and still can't land it consistantly.
So I'll have to stick with Elphelt.
5 hours is not a long time
Cringe
@@ssjAnnaPaquin well, for someone who learned C-Arc's sonic loop combo in MBAACC, and MSDC Treasure hunt in Xrd struggling with jDSDD is weird
adjust when you mist cancel after jd, also make sure to mist cancel faster, the timing is more tight than mist canceling ground normals
@@andrewzhang8280 actually I was doing everything too fast, while you actually don't need to be fast at all.
I really wouldnt put Bedman in hard to pick up, he has some of the easiest universal bnb combos. Sure, his movement and rewind might be a bit odd at first, but if you are a new player picking him up you won´t know anything different, meaning learning it will come just as naturally as picking any other char up. Oh and he only requires 236/214 moves.
I really like playing Baiken on Xrd even though it was my first FG, and I loved watching JP clips of her to try and learn new ways to play her, but after a while two of the top players that used Baiken (only name I remember is Sharon) stoped playing her. I always assumed it was because she was too hard and inconsistent for top level.
Now with rollback and higher expectations on myself I might not like her inconsistencies on combos, but I do hope more Baiken players pop up
I just wanna spew fire and ice as a Vlov gamer so let's try hard for a bit with Dizzy then ahhhhhh
another reason chipp is WAY stronger here than in strive is cuz of Find Me, where he literally goes invisible. I play him and i feel vile using that shit lol
Strive is the first one I played, but I have Xrd and I like to play around with it. I think I'd like to learn I-no since she was my main in Strive, but I can't help but be a doomer after the nerfs. And I was looking forward to a more playable Baiken, but now I feel like the result is actually kind of boring and XRD Baiken is kind of more interesting. She has all these counters, while Strive Baiken just has a basic Smash Bros Marth counter. Also, Dizzy is just cool, those are the three I'm looking at.
Play I-No. As Romolla said, she’s top 3 in Xrd. They did her so dirty with this last Strive patch. I’d rather take an HCL nerf and leave Stroke as it is than an HCL buff and a Stroke nerf.
@@Dhamphyre Same here, I feel like she went from the lowest top tier to the lowest mid tier.
@@cylondorado4582 couldn’t have said it better myself
Am very happy about Xrd rollback. My favorite characters are Baiken and Slayer, but since I’m not an Xrd vet (very casual player because of the netcode) I can’t execute their combos online (as they’re both BASICALLY link combos)
I can’t wait to get some good practice in. I absolutely adore kuchinachi/ Azami as well as k-pilebunker combos and will actually be able to start using them.
Raven's the most compatable to Jedah from Darkstalkers
While I feel familiar with the fg and it's dialect, I have questions:
What is RPS?
What are the yellow squares on the hitboxes?
Will you do a video on Xrd mechanics such as Blitz, Faultless defence, Dead Angle, Mortal counter etc?
Great video as usual! I love your Vtuber avatar 💜
Idk about the yellow squares, but for the other question, it's rock paper scissors
@@mrpulga8961 Oooooh, I kinda feel dumb now. That makes sense.
yellow = Pushbox/collusion box, the two push boxes of opposing characters can't overlap. They will be pushed away from each other until the pushboxes don't overlap anymore.
I'm definitely in the minority for preferring Strive's Ram to Xrd's. Back when I tried to learn Xrd, she was the main character that appealed to me, but the sheer amount of nonsense I needed to grind in training to even get my foot in the door of basic play was just discouraging and burnt me out before I ever really got started.
That was years ago now, and I'm a better player today in countless ways than I was back then, so I'll give her another try. Maybe try Ky and Sin as backups, we'll just have to see
They're just completely different characters. If you were an old Ram player, and got new Ram, it would be like a Ryu player playing him in V but in 6 they made him a grappler. If you like grapplers, that's good for you, but if you like Ryu, you're like "I wish it was more like old Ryu"
@@NeoBoneGirl This was me being an Xrd Ram player trying her in Strive. Just wasn't the same at all and she got boring for me pretty quickly (very linear and one-dimensional gameplay). So happy that Xrd is getting rollback and being back to playing old Ram again.
I-No is so fuckin sick in this game, it's a travesty how they gutted her in strive
lol she just doesn’t hit as hard (thank god) she’s the least changed compared to everyone else
@@billyboleson2830 No VCL, VCL loops, fast fall VCL, 214H, IAD combos, 663, shitter movement, and FDC are all missing from her. Must of that stuff allowed her to play so freefrom especially during combos. It also rewarded optimization and lab time by allowing you to do different combo routes to max out damage on certain characters. All the while being not being too difficult to play, you just have to get IAD combos and get use to movement down.
My fellow Raven glue eaters, rise up
Embrace Dandyism. Become Slayer.
I heard Romolla talking about Bedman, and thought she was talking about Millia except where she said no return on air-to-airs.
pretty casual at this game, but found fun in haehyun. They seemed simple enough for me, and i landed i think a "Rekka" for the first time on them in a match with a friend one time.
No, Rekka is just a repeatable special move (like slash slash slash), which Kum doesn't have. What you probably did was a combo
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 That's not what a rekka is. A rekka is a number of successive special moves, where the later special moves in the chain are only accessible from the move(s) before it in the same chain. Each special move in the chain is unique and is definitely not a repeat of another special move.
You described Elphelt as approachable on a baseline level but needing to learn a lot of shit to be competitive so shouldn't she be in "easy to pick up, hard to master"?
Romolla is strictly talking about if you wanna learn everything about the character.
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Yeah, exactly, if you want to master her you gotta study hard. She's easy if you want to just press buttons, but high-level play requires a lot of work.
Pick Jam, go forward, kill. I'm so excited to be able to actually properly learn my alltime favorite fighting game character, Xrd is the game I learned the absolute basics in, like actually doing a DP input and IADing, but I never got a chance to learn it properly cause I picked it up one or two years before Strive came out, so the community was small and the netcode was bad. Now I finally get to play people and learn this game and that makes me really happy.
So hyped for rollback. I hope they'll add a dash button too
I worry that it might break the game... but honestly, I want it too. Dashing was always something I had trouble with in anime games, and instant-air-dashes have been a nightmare for me too. I wonder if it's possible to play without them to even a mediocre level...
@@SylemGistoe imagining Slayer with a dash button is enough for me to not want a dash button in Xrd
@@mattscartozzi6697 yeah, a game kinda has to be built around it. But God, it makes everything so much easier. Hell, even just advancing guard- dash blocking. it's astounding how trivial it is to do in strive, but it's a real step up in execution without the macro.
@@SylemGistoe yeah I agree a game does have to be designed around it. It does feel good in Strive though
Imagine having trouble hitting 44/66/956/754
It's a good thing I'm the type to play characters I actually like vs top tiers! I'm playing Bedman and Dizzy!
Which character would be good to pick up for a Strive Testament player? I only messed around a little with xrd and the game was already mostly dead when I bought it but the netcode is a great occasion to actually learn this game, I'm hyped
What do you like about Testament?
I'd maybe suggest Raven since he also has big mid-range buttons, an interesting projectile game, an edgy design and also gets empowered by meeting certain conditions.
Yeah having some big normals and projectiles without being a full zoner is what I like about them, althought I tend to suck at doing longer combos
Raven is definetely interesting, I'll give him a try
@@oui7171 Raven's combos are pretty easy luckily
damn she skipped jack-o LMAO
As a Jack-O' main both in Xrd and Strive, I'm very sad
Oh yeah. It's slayer time.
Seems like I will be giving Jam a go, sounds like my kind of character 🙂
1:32:25 oh how the turn tables. buff zato
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Is this a Coffee Town reference?
Xrd baby!
Am I blind or is there no jacko?
Jacko doesnt deserve one.
So excited that I can finally try Venom, always wanted to but never played this game. And I'm a training mode monster anyway so that doesn't bother me.
I’ve always been an elphelt main
I shall play Sol badguy. Because I love him very much
Guys, how is she getting all those replays? I want that page to watch some i-no footage
keeponrock.in is the website for XRD replays
@@RomollaCh Thanks my dear
Wow, been getting into the game learning Raven, but now I kind of feel like an asshole for picking him XD
wheres Jacko?
She's so easy that there's no reason to even explain her
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 that's just... Not true
Jack-O' is easy to play for sure, her combos are dumb (rather, they don't exist), but her way to deal with blockstrings, neutral, 22HX shenanigans etc is way too different to the rest of the cast, not talking about her is only acceptable cause only people who mains her care (here, that's me, the fool who plays Jack-O')
Jack-O' is easy, not very strong, but her being kinda bad is not even the main reason why it's hard to win as her. She's hard to win with cause her gimmick takes VERY long to become a win condition, and her normals are just ways to steal time while minions spawn and houses level up basically.
@@afaneia I'm making a joke my guy.
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Dang irony so shitty in text form, mb
The oki haehyun can get with fireball looks really cool, if I get xrd ill probably main her with pot
Play Leo like me🦁
Ram
does anyone know how to go empty low with raven? damn u actually talked about it.... i still dont get it to work
Is there not a section for Jack-O or am I just like blind?
Do some really flashy instant kill combos like nage.
Faust easy to master? What are you talking about?
hard disagree with jams placement, her gattling table, speed and easy to understand offence is what got me into fighting games
edit: okay that' makes sense
Seems like instant block is more important in Xrd than it is in strive.
It is because it reduces blockstun in here unlike in strive
It is.
I enjoy both Jam and Elphelt, for their personalities and gameplay. But Strive is superior in one particular way to Rev2, and nobody will ever, EVER change my mind on this.
Strive doesn't have Stun. Rev2 does. Therefore, Rev2 is inherently less fun to play on the backfoot because of that mechanic. And to people who want Slayer back... why? He's mean.
I knew millia was hard to play, but hearing she might be the hardest in the game is a tad worrying lmao
why would it be worrying?
@@weirdo911aw learning a hard game with the hardest character sounds like a lot
Its doable if you are willing to suck
And xrd isn’t that hard, its just more complicated than strive
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List elphelt as hard to learn easy to master, proceed to talk about how she is so easy to pick up that someone could just first time her with shotgun only. I have not missed Elphelt discourse even slightly 🤡
Simple you just play raven
Edit: oh...
Pick venom because he is cool :)
mmm yjes time to fight my jam main frembd with rollback (let's not talk about my friend who mains elphelt I'm going to have a LOT of fun)
Bedman ):
So raven is like 3S chun li
*Laughs in pilebunker*
😂🤜🥴
raven is like luffy from one piece xD
The more I hear about Xrd the more I think its a Kusoge
yeah but it's fun as fuck
Every guilty gear is kuso
Kusoge has lost all meaning
omg guys kusoge!! idk what it means but its a pretty cool word!!1!
Every game is a Kusoge if you hate it hard enough
low key hope ps4 gets rollback too i wanna play this game too
I will BDC bite, you people will cry about it, and I will laugh
Man, that's the most Guilty Gear sentence ever lol
wheres my jack'o :(
No JackO lol
You've been too good for too long. You are vey off with your easy to pick up
romolla makes me uncomfortable idrk why
i really want to sit through this video and hear your perspective on all this stuff, but I legitimately can't watch this at home or work because of how embarassing and hard to explain it would be for someone to walk in on me looking at this vtuber shit
im not asking you to change your content if this is what you're set on. id be a very active viewer of your stuff if you weren't doing this cow thing, but i guess im not the target audience.