We added an ERP system (E2) in 2008. I think we had about 15 employees. It took about 3 months to really start using it efficiently. I would say it was probably the best money that I ever spent on our business. It made getting our AS9100 certification so much easier during the same year.
I agree with his comment that reflecting back imagining being in a smaller shop wondering how to survive without one. They have been crucial in every type of manufacturing I been involved in. It can be a whole lot easier starting it up in smaller applications and have both grow together as well.
With ERP's you want to consider a few major things. Are you implementing from scratch with the data and information you've built? Or, are you implementing with intent to transfer information from your current system. Those 2 will be huge factors in the initial cost. Most ERP's are not easily compatible with existing databases and are hard to code to make it work, esepcially if it's custom, and most small businesses are considered custom. Also, when considering ERP's, it's best to have a good long term vision on the capability you'd like to have and the options available on if you can purchase/lease modules as you grow. In the end, ERP's are considered industry standard and I argue as necessary to compete at a world class level. Without one, certain quality standards are hard to setup and run smoothly.
While the data transfer process itself is fairly simple (usually CSV import/export) between systems, such processes may not capture all data as databases vary between ERP vendors. This becomes the root of the issue mentioned above. Many ERP solutions have mapping tools to assist with data transfer and avoid potential loss but awareness to data gaps is key. During preparation for an ERP transition, do your homework...identify up front the priority information that must be retained. That way, any potential custom solutions will be obvious from the very beginning.
One thing I have learned about erp systems is they are all reliant on the data, garbage in = garbage out so having 100% accurate data is crucial or the systems just will not work and will cause more problems then solutions but when the data is accurate it can be an amazing tool in the toolbox to help make your shop make chips which = money
One of the hardest concepts to understand and this is extremely difficult for a business owner to admit. Do your best to review/cleanse the information prior to an ERP implementation and you are well on your way.
This is an excellent question and to be very honest the price varies. Your best path forward is to determine what your business needs and priorities are first. Once you have that list, it makes it very easy to identify the right ERP at the right price. Keep in mind that some ERPs are modular and can start small and grow as your business needs grow. While other ERPs are one price for everything and then you pay for functionality you may never use. Good luck in your search, ECI would be happy to chat with you if interested in taking this further. You can start here www.ecisolutions.com/products/jobboss2/
Dont forget the implementation costs and training. Your looking at over 5k to get setup and over $1000 a month after that if you use any options at all
We added an ERP system (E2) in 2008. I think we had about 15 employees. It took about 3 months to really start using it efficiently. I would say it was probably the best money that I ever spent on our business. It made getting our AS9100 certification so much easier during the same year.
I agree with his comment that reflecting back imagining being in a smaller shop wondering how to survive without one. They have been crucial in every type of manufacturing I been involved in. It can be a whole lot easier starting it up in smaller applications and have both grow together as well.
With ERP's you want to consider a few major things. Are you implementing from scratch with the data and information you've built? Or, are you implementing with intent to transfer information from your current system. Those 2 will be huge factors in the initial cost. Most ERP's are not easily compatible with existing databases and are hard to code to make it work, esepcially if it's custom, and most small businesses are considered custom. Also, when considering ERP's, it's best to have a good long term vision on the capability you'd like to have and the options available on if you can purchase/lease modules as you grow. In the end, ERP's are considered industry standard and I argue as necessary to compete at a world class level. Without one, certain quality standards are hard to setup and run smoothly.
While the data transfer process itself is fairly simple (usually CSV import/export) between systems, such processes may not capture all data as databases vary between ERP vendors. This becomes the root of the issue mentioned above. Many ERP solutions have mapping tools to assist with data transfer and avoid potential loss but awareness to data gaps is key. During preparation for an ERP transition, do your homework...identify up front the priority information that must be retained. That way, any potential custom solutions will be obvious from the very beginning.
One thing I have learned about erp systems is they are all reliant on the data, garbage in = garbage out so having 100% accurate data is crucial or the systems just will not work and will cause more problems then solutions but when the data is accurate it can be an amazing tool in the toolbox to help make your shop make chips which = money
One of the hardest concepts to understand and this is extremely difficult for a business owner to admit. Do your best to review/cleanse the information prior to an ERP implementation and you are well on your way.
All these years I was thinking they were just overpriced Excel programs 🤔
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One question. How much does it cost??
This is an excellent question and to be very honest the price varies. Your best path forward is to determine what your business needs and priorities are first. Once you have that list, it makes it very easy to identify the right ERP at the right price. Keep in mind that some ERPs are modular and can start small and grow as your business needs grow. While other ERPs are one price for everything and then you pay for functionality you may never use. Good luck in your search, ECI would be happy to chat with you if interested in taking this further. You can start here www.ecisolutions.com/products/jobboss2/
How well would an erp work with a job shop/repair facility with manual lathes and mills?
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Does anyone know the ballpark cost to implement something like this?
it aint ginna be cheap.
Dont forget the implementation costs and training. Your looking at over 5k to get setup and over $1000 a month after that if you use any options at all
@@FCM.inc1 That's ridiculous. Does it really help your profit margin that much? Doubt it unless you're a 50 man shop.
@@FCM.inc1 I just saw a JobBOSS2 quote from May 2022 that was half that price
@@funone8716 I responded to 360 already but I saw a recent JB2 quote that was way lower than that.