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She hit the nail on the head. A woman mourns the relationship in the relationship and a man does it after.
Except my situation, I can tell he's waiting for me to be back to work and steady... then he's leaving. Had his baby, had to stay home and get supports in place due to his autism... but hey, make me a single parent because the attention isnt all on you (my bf)
Omg I felt that
I must be a women then
@@meichey00
Lol, it's not the rule. If you're a person more in tune to your emotions and put value in your relationships, you'll feel it like lots (not all) of women feel. I know some women who are more emotionally unavailable and find they end up mourning after, due to not caring enough to pay attention to the signs while the relationship was crashing and burning. The men/women like that, all act so shocked when it's over!
Thats because women usually initiate the breakup.
my parents got divorced. My dad moved just a few streets away from my mom. I was able to walk to his house. My parents stayed best friends all the way until my father died. We had every holiday together, birthday, celebration, and hardship. They were a disaster living together. Constantly fighting. Put them in two separate houses and they were an unstoppable force of love and team work. It's more than possible. Best wishes to you both!
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My ex husband and I did the same thing until he passed in 2017. We were the best of friends.
I’m so confused by this: what did they fight about when together?
My parents get a long better as friends vs being married and we did holidays/trips together. Even after my mom got remarried. So I agree that it is possible 🥰
Because your father really loved your mother. He must have suffered terribly for so many years. Nowadays, unfortunately, most women abandon men. For various reasons, sometimes nonsense
I was today years old when I found out they just got divorced
Me
Me, today.
Me today
Me right now.
Same. 02/09/2024
This is heartbreaking. She looks so hurt. Someone else in the comments said he’s in denial, I agree. He’s lost so much weight, and in his eyes he’s just a bit.. manic. They’re talking so respectfully to each other, it’s incredible. It’s just so sad, the whole situation.
Its post break up fitness.
She looks irritated af at him.
He looks depressed and is attempting to hide it.
I think the manic is possibly from sorrow and Adderall combined
@@tkatrich3yeah, b3cause he lost his freaking mind
Man this is heartbreaking. Seeing the pain on Laura's face.. My goodness, I wish you all the best.
Like when she said a woman mourns the relationship during the relationship
Came for the tea 🫖 stayed for the thoughtful discussion
Wow, I haven't seen these two in over a year and I'm sad they're divorcing but it's nice to see how amicable they both are ❤ I wish all divorces and or relationships could end this way! Very mature.
me too
Stephanie,
Me either. I thought they had just gone away off line. Then I recently (just in the couple days) found her on FB again.
Now i find out all this and I’m kinda heartbroken but then again I’m heartbroken for ANY couple going through a breakup & divorce.
I feel like most couples who can be amicable try staying together, that’s why most divorces are ugly
at least for the video, who knows whats really going on when the cameras are off
Dude listening to you two speak about your kids makes me want to bawl my eyes out. Such excellent parents your kids are so lucky to have you and you're lucky to have them ❤
no they aren't. If these 2 really loved their kids they'd work things out that didn't involve each side abandoning them.
@@holder1971 I disagree, I think the family unit is important and beautiful, I have a Son and work hard with my partner to maintain a healthy, loving relationship so he has both parents together. But my parents were a terrible couple and I was way happier when they separated, sometimes good parents are better parents not together, it depends on the situation and we don't know how their relationship was effecting the kids, even in small ways, that would have been detrimental long term.
I started watching you all when you were doing the Steven pick up lines. Then of course things changed but I still love you both so much equally and watch both of your all's content. I have 3 kids two with Autism , not with the father anymore and were great friends. So I can relate to you all. Love you both
It takes a lot of healing to be sitting in front of each other as adults and parents. You guys will do just fine ❤
You’re doing the right thing. I was a child of divorce and I was relieved when my parents split. Coparent and be kind to each other - you have already found the right way. Kudos to you both!
As someone who mourned the relationship already, Laura has been through all the stages of grief, including denial. Stephen is still in the denial stage. He doesn't realize it's too late to save their marriage. In time he will and they both as well as their children will be better off for it.
Yes I follow him & Laura, and like a lot of women, she left the relationship emotionally before they physically separated. My mother did this also. Women can't always just up & end a marriage. They will be more deliberate & plan ahead before telling their husband they want to be separated.
“In time he will” No, I don’t think he will. He will despair to the utter end of his days.
The children will be better off for it is the biggest lie ever told.
Right. And its hitting him now, a year later. I think bc she was so nice ane open w him, he had this subconscious feeling they still had a chance. Sometimes u have to cut your ex off for them to GET that its truly over
My heart hurts for both of you. Even the most amicable split up is still major/life changing and has so much emotion and grief. I'm happy you're doing what is best for you and the kids. ❤
i praise you guys for your relationship, as a child of divorced parents, my childhood would of been so much better if BOTH
my parents got a long. my highschool graduation was a mess because the adults in my life couldnt adult properly. please keep showing and guiding us how to have a civil relationship. I LOVE both of you, and I will continue to follow and support both of you! ♥♥
Stephen is looking so good and healthy and Laura looks good… but sad. And yes, dissociated. 😔 It’s a hard thing to go through. It just takes time. ❤
I loved your channel, the funny family videos were always so much fun to watch, it made my day everytime I saw you guys just having fun with ur kids...it's almost been a year I guess, and suddenly I remembered about your channel for some reason only to find out about your divorce. It must be so hard to deal with, I hope that both of you and your family will be able to get through it, especially those kids. Take care!
People should really step back and realize how painful this is for you both and at the end of the day you deserve the respect and privacy and although you shared your relationship/family we don't have a right to information or to tear you down.
Love to you Laura ❤❤❤
Not to mention how brave they are for putting themselves out there!
They don’t really get privacy because they put their whole life out here public ally. But I love both of them. They can’t really have it both ways though
Yeah, not after they shared it on the internet for everyone to see, people are going to have opinions
Very well said.
They dont want privacy. They're putting their entire lives online for everyone to see. They want to monetize it. 😂😂
My parents got divorced when I was 7 and I can’t even imagine how miserable the whole family would’ve been if they tried to “stay together for the kids.”
Well, trying to stay together for the kids actually involves TRYING.
If not for the sake of the live for your partner but for the love of your kids.
People today doesn’t know what really trying is, in a relationship.
The whole point is to TRY, which means letting go of selfish desires for the sake of being stable for the children 😂 divorce is too easy for people to just quit. And this is on BOTH sides.
I love seeing you two chatting together. It’s really nice to see when the media is full of angry divorcees and everyone wants that tea. It will be great for the kids to see this as well. They will grow to be angry if their parents are. So cool to see parents come together to make content and set an example.
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As watching you guys from whenever you had help Helen smash page, I absolutely loved how adorable and authentic and hilarious. You are Laura, it hurts to see you guys separate and I think understanding and having space for someone is so important as someone that has a very loving husband, I relate to you in a lot of ways, but you can’t pour from a cup that’s empty. Mourning a relationship is so hard. But you both are amazing. Sending good vibes
Love you guys! This podcast made me cry. I respect how you handled this conversation and life change and how you are putting the kids first and still keeping a friendship and good co-parenting relationship.
I enjoyed this.. I enjoy Stephen in this space. My heart broke when Laura said “i was mourning the relationship for years” and Stephens reaction was so sad. You are both amazing to come together like this. I wish you both continued peace and healing
I did the same in my marriage. I mourned the loss and came to terms with it after begging him for counseling or anything. I then proceeded to tell him we were divorcing and he acted shocked, begged me to stay, threatened me, did anything but it was OVER for me.
I identify with Laura so much oh my goodness when she says “I tried” and that she mourned during the end before it all ended. Like I FELT that
You can see how raw both of their feelings still are. I really hope they both do what’s best for themselves and for their children. They really are amazing people and deserve all the happiness in the world and it makes me so sad that he had to go through everything he did and she just had to watch the train wreck. They love each other so much. I really hope they figure it out
That breaks my heart that people felt like they needed to pick sides. I love both of you & love how different yall are.
Maybe it's just me, but I sense tons of tension. I know it's peaceful, and as respectful as possible, but there seems to be a lot of tongue biting and repressed resentment on some stuff. Keeping the friendship alive and co-parenting is a huge feat in those circumstances, and I really commend them on treading the line between being genuine and being respectful of one another's views. I really hope they heal individually and find their footing. Change is hard, and they're clearly working harder.
Yes. He's terrified that if he crosses her he'll lose his kids. That would create some tension I think.
Have you ever been through a divorce? There's always some tension when the dynamic changes.
Uncomfortable and cringe
Absolutely
Yeahhh a bit awkward. Bless their hearts. I REALLY like both of them
This was tough for me to watch. I see two people who still love each other but just can’t be together. I’ve been with my husband for 28 years - married 23. We met in high school. Marriage is so so hard. Especially since a lot of us don’t have all the right skills ect. Big hugs to both of you. I hope you can continue to be friends for the kids. Keep working. ❤
I've been watching your videos since I was in college. I would show my boyfriend your videos, lol. Yesterday, I just found out about the divorce. My boyfriend and I were very shocked and saddened by it. I do remember seeing some of the problems you've addressed in the video. I'm glad you're both still friends and are able to talk about things. The way you talk about your kids is amazing they are so lucky to have you guys. Also, I love the positivity twords one another. I hope you both continue to grow and work on yourselves. I'm not trying to be rude, but I do think Steven needs more time to self reflect. I think this time away will be good for you both. We love you both! ❤️
I can see the love you both have for one another. I hope that continues on while living separate but well adjusted lives. All your kids want is to see both parents happy and healthy. Wishing you both healing journeys!
I'm happy and sad for both of you but my biggest prayer for ya'll is that you both can continue to be friends and gently co-parent so that everyone ends up happy. Our opinions don't matter. Your happiness as the family you always will be is all that matters.
I adore the both of you in this. Even though you are amicably divorcing, co-parenting and remaining friends; you are both human and have your own feelings/thoughts/emotions/experiences etc. And you are allowing the space for yourselves and each other to have all those things. Bravo to you both on that. And love and good vibes to you both on this next leg of your journeys. I'll stop my run on sentences here.
Really enjoy this podcast and the newer one about how you both are doing and love that you both are different and accept you're both growing separately on different paths but when it comes to the kids it sounds very loving and peaceful still 😊
Not everyone agrees but each to their own 😊
Wish you both the best through your troubling times and good times ❤
If you both enjoy creating these videos please keep making them i personally would love to watch more!
In response to the question about what kids think of their parent's relationship i grew up with my parents separated from before i was born so it was normal for me and i honestly didnt care, it was weird for me to think of them being together only because i could plainly see they are very different people.
There was a few times for a couples years i wouldnt see my Dad and thats what upset me but when he was in my life I'd go every fortnight to his and a week every school holidays.
He and I get along very well now 😁
It’s so nice seeing you getting along and respecting each other. Wishing you both happiness and peace ❤
I think the people picking sides are the most vocal about it. There’s a lot of us remaining quiet who just love you both and want the best for you both. ❤
Exactly… It’s not about sides it’s about the person.
I won’t tolerate victim blaming. … I don’t know why I answered the way I did but this is what I’m seeing allot in hateful comments on choosing sides…
what a beautiful comment, thank you for putting this ""side"" out there
Exactly this.. the sensible people ;)
Agreed ❤
I agree but with that said Stephan has changed did a 180 and now is someone he wasnt before. So I cant support the new him because I do not gel with what he is now putting out there. I followed and watched his videos when he first started until he started spewing stuff that I disagree with so unfollowed him. She so far has stayed true with what she has always put out there so I support her.
I'm also going through a messy breakup. We had 1 child together and we are going through court with joint custody. Watching you both speak on the topic has helped me with the lonely side of it. Watching you both voice your sides of coping and your ups and downs has helped me relate so much. I know you both say this has been such a public divorce. But at least you're also helping some of us out here going through it as well. Keep up the good work. I have been a long-time fan of the both of you!
Great interview. Great resource suggestions. Great example of a couple separated that can do the best around them and their kids. Well done !
It’s very refreshing to see 2 parents come together and coparent so nicely for the children ! You can really tell you both still have lots of love however sometimes divorce is just what is best! Best of luck to your next chapters ❤️❤️
I am so proud of you Laura! You are truly handling all of this so gracefully and you're so unapologetically authentic yet respectful. I support your decision 100% and to think I was originally wanting you guys to get back together so badly 😂 You keep doing you and being an amazing person and loving your babies with your all! ❤
Wow this was amazing and beautiful and heart breaking and inspiring to watch. I consider this one of the most successful relationships I've ever witnessed a bit of. The growth has me floored. The love is still growing and going strong. You guys are doing something right. That's for sure.
Find your peace girl!!! You are an amazing woman! Mother! Friend! Human being!! You are kind and funny and honest.. you have a character that is so unique and I’m so proud of every step you make everyday with everything going on!!! You are an inspiration! Be kind to yourself ignore the rest ❤
Love how both of you are setting such a great example for strong co-parents!!! Way to go! Many blessings to you all!
Wishing only the best for Laura!!
100% agree with Laura, my parents divorced when i was 17 and i wish they had done it so much sooner, i was the last kid at home and it was so hard. Once they were done it was so much easier, i only wish it hadnt been during my senior year in high school.
My husband and I were told that we were rare.. we have a few kids on the spectrum, I’m on the spectrum, my Mum had gone through cancer and passed from it, and so much more.. and we were STRONGER THAN EVER. We had our problems, absolutely, but we loved each other and so we fought for each other. It’s bloody hard to have one child on the spectrum, and the more you have, the harder it gets. I lost my husband 2 years ago, and I would give anything to have him back, arguments and all
Stephen, NO child wants to live in a broken home BUT no one wants to live with two adults who hate eachother and fight and scream and hurt eachother every day of their lives.
What makes you think they were fighting and screaming at all? They've both said neither can even remember why they separated to begin with.
@jypsyfalcon4076 I'm not talking specifically about them, but in general about parents who do or do not get divorced. I'm sure my experience is similar to others whose parents got divorced and experienced the screaming, crying and emotional abuse.
I think people sometimes underestimate the problems that come with living in a broken home vs coming from one. Living in the toxicity daily is rough and causes a lot of damage. Divorce is hard too! But two amicable parents in different homes, who are respectful and supportive (which they seem to be accomplishing) is a good thing. Especially if they're unable to do the same living under one roof.
Hate each other?
@@denisemeissner1015 I don't think she was saying Stephen and Laura currently hate each other. But they could end up hating each other if they stay married. Like my parents. Married 57 years. I'm 43 and I've never seen them happy with each other.
You can tell they both still love each other. Sometimes love isn't enough to fix the problems. But it's important for their co-parenting. ❤ The respect and love they have for each other is going to show their kids how to treat people even if they don't always agree 💯 with them. That's beautiful ❤
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YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING LAURA! I'm a child of divorce- and the only complaint I have is they should have gotten one sooner. As a little girl I would beg to go to my grandparents house to get away from the atmosphere that was around my parents. I would cry & cry when they would come to take me home. The relationships I formed with my parents did not become positive, and did not really start until after they had divorced. I then watched my mom go through another marriage that she tried so hard for, and I was telling her for at least a decade she needed to divorce- that staying with my brother & sisters father (half siblings isn't a term I like, but for the purpose of this comment) wasn't making things better it was hurting them- now they've also separated, and things are going so much better for my baby siblings (they're 14 & 16 - I'm 30 and my "full" brother is 26) and I'm so glad they are got their more peaceful life earlier on, so maybe the trauma won't be as bad as it was for me and my oldest brother.
Love you both. You guys can really be a catalyst to everyone respecting one another again. Also - love AG1
Laura you are so well spoken and I appreciate your insight. I wish my mother had been thoughtful enough to see that her happiness and view points mattered enough to exist outside the bounds of a marriage. The toxic relationship my parents had has made it impossible for me to have a relationship with my father as a grown woman when they only just recently divorced. You are amazing and this will be so good for your children and yourself. Good things will come.
Laura, you amaze me. After all you have been through, you still strive to maintain your relationship with Steven. Your statement about a women mourning the relationship during and a men mourning after, is spot on. When a woman tries over and over to explain to her partner and she repeatedly gets dismissed she eventually is done, once she shows she is done, the husband might clue in but it is too little, too late.
It shows a great deal of maturity to successfully co parent..good for both of you.
Meanwhile I no longer follow Steven because I find he is so volatile, he gives me anxiety.
Best wishes Laura and I will continue to support you.
This same scenario occurred with my daughter. He dismissed her even when she begged him to be more attentive to family and friends. Especially their own family!!!!!! Avoided the kids for a time, refusing counseling. Laura was done!!!!! I'm concerned about him being off his meds totally
I mourned my relationship for years before I ended it 😢
Laura you are so strong and I admire you so much. I have been a huge fan of yours for years and now even more so. I too am going thru a divorce after 10 years of marriage. My husband like yours had participated in the “men’s weekend” away to be the best “husband and father”. Since he went our lives have been turned upside down! He was doing meetings for almost a year in the woods and then went on a retreat. He is unrecognizable and he can’t talk about his weekend away. Yet another secret in our marriage we can not navigate thru! I wish you all the luck and will continue to watch your journey. Xo
I love when you asked about the fire pit!! 🤣
He did the sterling men’s weekend, it’s obvious. When my boyfriend many years back did that weekend he came home and announced to me “honey, you are 100% in charge of the emotional side of this relationship” I was like WHAT? No thanks. Lol
Then I got talked into doing the sterling women’s weekend, i’m not gonna say I didn’t get some great things out of it, but the guy who runs does workshops, Justin Sterling has an unbelievable history of not practicing what he preaches in his own relationship. And also, a lot of the ideas are very archaic. However, the biggest thing I got from the woman’s weekend is how to be super Duper, supportive to other women and allow them to support me. I carry that with me everywhere, I no longer am competitive with women and I’m so grateful to that weekend for teaching me that.
It's very interesting hearing his perception of himself while in the relationship and post relationship. It definitely seems like it was a building up thing.
I think you both come to a fork in the road and needed to go your own paths but I like how you've left eachother with love and can co parent effectively together is amazing
The first 10 years of my marriage were definitely the hardest. Things definetly got better after that. We werent stable and had a lot of issues that we were able to work out.
Amen! I think we get through things and with age and maturity we learn to really appreciate the other person. I always knew I loved him, he would be my first choice but now I really feel it. I know he’s a good man, good dad, hard worker and anyone would love him. I know he’s a catch. We have raised one son who is 19 and the others are getting older and we did it. But I see myself really respecting him more these days, after 18 years. :)
@boib8765 no one really I guess. Just agreeing with the sentiment that the first 10 years are hard but can be better after that.
How did you manage that? We are in year 4 of our marriage and it's been really hard. Mainly because he's always dismissing how I'm feeling and telling me how I should be feeling. He isn't an effective communicator. There's only so much I can do to impact a conversation, but he needs to pull his side too. Aside from the fact that he's emotionally cheated on me and I found him on dating sites a few months back...its been hard. He claims to be a Christian and doesn't want to divorce me interestingly.
Amazing podcast, you are two lovely people who definately respect and love each other, hope this will continue
Laura you seem so much more yourself and authentic and light and glowing
I agree with that. It’s because she is not working as the comedian anymore. Not because of the separation.
I’m sending you both lots of love, strength, happiness and peace. It’s not easy living with mental health issues and staying sober on top of all other life’s issues we also have to go through plus raising our children on top of everything else. You guys are an inspiration, a glimmer of hope for others that feel trapped and have no way out. Keep working your magic Laura and Steve ❤
You're both amazing parents and your friendship is amazing too. Stay strong, both of you. Sending you both lots of love ❤
I have a autistic daughter
And any change takes place it totally will drive her crazy
I wish you the best on this decision
You have both come a very long way in your personal development. I think you should both be extremely proud of the fact you both have your children's best interests at heart and the way to ensure they are getting the best of 'you' is to have a respectful and calm relationship with each other. Who knows, as you carry on in your journey you may 'find each other' again... but for now, focus on the present, on being present for yourself, your children and each other as co-parents. Much love to you both x
have you seen his page? he is obsessively hateful toward trans people. just because he's speaking calmly here doesn't mean he didn't record like twenty videos within the past few months bashing and maligning trans and LGBTQ people generally
Wonderful advice ❤
The love they so obviously still have for each other is heartbreaking to see. I'm still rooting for them and all the possibilities they have as a couple in the future.
Beautiful, the way they described their kids. I grined along with them 🥰
I feel this. It is so - heartbreaking - but also very beautiful. Some people just are not a good match. I love that you are great friends and co-parents. That is a blessing to your kids and yourselves. Maybe it's the best outcome.
I went through an extreme amount of trauma because my parents wouldn’t divorce. My mom still talks about divorcing my father as I’m an adult and she won’t.
I applaud both of you for being able to do this. A lot of people with breakups don’t get this chance to talk about it in a non confrontational way- also can this guy be a role model for men - not in what he did but how he’s taking accountability, apologising for his wrong doings, respecting her decision to walk away, making amends, and rebuilding with her in a new way that creates a space for healing and growth for both of them even if it means that they aren’t married anymore! 🌸
I’m hard of hearing and even with AirPods turned up all the way, it’s still hard to hear you guys. I just thought I’d let you know. Very proud of both of you for doing this! It must not be the easiest thing to do but your strength is inspiring ❤
Have you tried turning on the TH-cam captions? I use that all the time. Let me say, it isn't always accurate and can make hysterical mistakes, but it's obvious when it happens. Most of the time it can be helpful.
@@thnkx I almost always use captions when I can but I listened while at work and I can’t have my phone out like that 😕😕 but it wasn’t bad enough to where I couldn’t listen! I was able to get through! I just had a harder time than with other podcasts is all 🤷🏻♂️😊
Thank you for saying that about the volume, I was getting ready to say the same. The person on the microphone needs to bump up the volume. The commercials were blairing when I had it loud enough to hear them talking.
I noticed this too! I’m not hard of hearing but I have my volume all the way up and even the sound of me preparing and eating my food made me have to turn on captions 😂
@@CelesteOcoileainright I have a hard time hearing to
I am just learning of this- and I am so sorry to hear it. But I truly wish the best for you and your family. I have enjoyed your content for years and enjoyed your first book. ❤
You two were such a great part of our COVID lock down time period. We laughed so much. You touched our lives. That’s also the time I read her book and I loved it!!! I loved the story how these 2 met, became best friends, lovers, and parents. I wish you both the best! You are great people in your own way and wonderful parents! Looking forward to see what the future holds for you and all of us watching 😊❤
My parents finally got a divorce when I was 19 and living out of the house. I had started telling my mother to leave my father when I was 13, literally telling her “if you divorce dad, I’ll be okay, it won’t hurt me.” But they kept insisting on staying together, supposedly for me.
I cannot even begin to describe how much happier they are now that they’re divorced. How much better my relationship got with each of them as individuals. Obviously things aren’t perfect, they’re pretty overwhelmingly damaged people at this point, but my only reaction to learning they separated was “thank god, finally.” I only wish they had done it before I started high school.
“Staying together for the kids” is the stupidest thing ever. It’s a lie adults tell themselves when they are too cowardly to leave a bad situation. Staying together for the kids teaches your children to accept their circumstances when they are miserable instead of learning to take agency over their own happiness. If you stay in your marriage “for your kids” you are failing as a parent because you are failing to sufficiently teach your children healthy independence-and raising your children to be a happy, healthy adults is your entire job as a parent.
💯 this. I wish my mother had left my father and never turned back. It would have spared years of extended pain for everyone, including little me.
Absolutely!! 💯 ❤❤❤
WOW these comments are NOT it. Honestly happiness is SO important, and if this is what you two need to make your lives work, do it! No judgment here, I'm surprised how many feel you should force a relationship at all.
Yeah you force it and you end up hating each other or despising each other instead of still saying friends and having a healthy relationship because they have kids and making it work versus trying to force it and stay together.
Laura , when i was on social media heavy "back in the day" i always watched , laughed my ass off and enjoyed your content. So as i took a break ftom the socials , i didnt have that access to it. Now here we are years later and now you have a podcast! Couldnt be more excited about that! Congrats! Its sad to see you and stephen parting ways in this stage of your lives , but life goes on and people change. Both of you are awesome patents and will make this co parenting thing work.
Im just happy to see you making content again , especailly in the podcast format. Keep doing you!
I’m sure you both did everything to make this work. I’m sorry to see this happen. I’ve Been through this twice. Prayers!
I was completely invested in this conversation you both had in this one. I can tell Laura is still struggling internally about the situation but is also trying to heal in her own time. I feel she is being patient with herself, which is healthy. But Co-parenting and staying friends is the best way to show the kids that both Mommy and Daddy are still together in some aspects and there is nothing wrong with that. Accountability was shown on both ends which I see is tremendous progress in my opinion. However, it is never healthy for the kids for the parents to stay in a anger fueled marriage, just for the sake of the kids. It sets very bad examples for the kids and they do usually end up being a product of their environment. Since, you guys are no logner married but are working together as friends to raise those beautiful babies, will help them in the future. You guys are doing amazing, and for Laura, stay away of those comments. Those comments will never validate the real progress that you are actually making.
As a child of divorce I want to stress that sometimes it IS the right thing to do. My parents were teen parents and felt they had to get married because it was the “right” thing to do. They divorced when I was four and I have said time and time again that I’m so glad my parents separated because all they did was fight and hurt each other. They both always said that they loved and respected each other more when they divorced. It’s not true for everyone but it IS true very often. I’m 28 now and have a beautiful relationship with each of my parents individually and they still ask about each other and love each other. We’re still a family, it’s just different :)
Just wanted to throw in my personal experience after seeing you guys wanting input. Love you guys and at the end of the day it’s what is best for YOUR family. Always best to try to keep an open mind and heart.❤
My parents eventually got divorced when I was 17 and moved out but my mom stayed together for the kids and I truly wish they would’ve got divorced years before. I actually begged my mom to divorce my dad he was/is a narcissist who abuses alcohol and drugs and put me my siblings and especially my mom through Hell! 😞 You guys are doing the right thing especially for your kids mental well being! ❤️
Sending so much love and healing to both of you. You are both beautiful, individual beings that came together and had 2 precious children. You guys are working through it and though it’s painful and difficult, you can still come together like this and get along. This is rare and y’all are doing a great job! Just thought you should know! 😊✨💖✨
Huge respect for you two and how you handle it
you can see how laura is fighting to dear life or whatever is the saying... to try to speak her true but at the same time keep thing in peace with stephen, she knows that she cant say something that triggers stephen because shit can go down like really quickly... like she just say to him... i mean.. you are autistic... my dad is autistic... theres nothing weird with alfie being autistic and still stephen is like... well yeah but i have other data... like ... u can not reasoning with him. i really feel soorry for laura you can see how she just can´t believe who stephen has turn in to. like she feels like she actually never knew her husband at all.
I'm seeing that too and this therapy retreat he was talking about seems extremely problematic. Ranting on about "married people should stick together for the kids" and "divorcing after 10yrs is stupid" and constantly talking about his masculinity like... sounds like he's got a closet full of maga gear 😪
Yeah I got that feeling to!! Feel for her so much
Yes.. she is treading VERY lightly… ❤
You're not "seeing" shit, she said she doesn't care about his content...sorry she's not a snowflake
@@suzettegarcia6648 you seem triggered. 🤔 you're not worth the argument ✌️
Stephen, I'm so impressed with your personal growth in every way. You remind me of junior Russell Brand. Keep up the progress and process of finding what makes you comfortable and fulfilled. I watched you two years ago and quit abruptly for a particular Instagram post. But you came up randomly on TH-cam about the divorce...and wow... your transformation is fantastic. So proud of you. Subscribing now.
You’re both so respectful to each other. It’s lovely ❤🙏🏼
wishing you both the best. thank you for setting a good example for separated parents
I love you both and i think its amazing how you've both handled the separation. Lovely parents ❤️
I wish my daughters dad and I can co-parent like the both of you. I've tried being civil and tried communicating with this man and he gets super defensive, angry, and so mean towards me. You both are such great parents and people! ❤
I’m so sorry for the hurt you both have walked through. I hope you can continue to be a team and parent you littles together ❤
I feel for Laura speaking about mourning the relationship while in it. My husband, having not dealt with his demons, was more absent than present and it was hurting us. I could speak on my perspective in the relationship till the words spilled out my ears. He would act as if he was interested in hearing and learning ways to do better for all of us including him but all this changes were surface level. Then he reverted back so easily. Until he, and I, actually, started digging down deep to learn about the root causes of the issues we were experiencing was it possible to begin healing our relationship. We just hit the 10 year mark and yes, those first 10 years were so hard. Fingers crossed for continued healing for you both. Healing is where freedom will exist.
Can you describe these physical manifestations of true improvement and changes of him?
There's still a lot of grief here and pain. A lot of the tension and topics made me wince- there's obviously a lot more to work out and I really want the best for both of you. I just hope that there is a good balance of freedom and responsibility so that you both can find the happiness you clearly need.
No matter how difficult this is for the both of you and I can imagine it’s truly one of the hardest things to agree on and work through in a friendly manner but I must say the way that both of you still have so much care and love for each other even if no longer romantically is so refreshing to see like idk our world is so evil and mean man it’s just so nice to see that even when shit hits the fan or when things become outta your control/ no longer work in your favour you guys can still maintain your composure and be humans to each other it’s truly beautiful and I wish more people would look at they’re situation the way you two are I hope the best for both of you guys in the future ❤️
Love both of you. You're incredible human beings and it's amazing, to say the least, that you'll be extraordinary co-parents and friends. You're an inspiration to others who are going thru the same thing. May success and joy follow you in all your endeavors. #Blessings
As a child I wished and prayed my parents would get divorced because I was so sick of the toxic environment. Fights and instability.
Sometimes it's for the best for everyone involved. Prayers for happiness for the 2 of you
Stay strong Laura. I feel you ❤ you are at exactly right place where you suppose to be
My parent’s divorce is one of the best things that happened to me. They were toxic together. I can’t imagine what I would have had to go through if they stayed together. My step Dad was also so amazing I couldn’t imagine the person I’d be without him raising me
Specifically just commenting for the part at 28:25 when the topic of toughing out a marriage for your kids came up. I am 26 and have 3 siblings, 23, 19, and 17. Our parents stuck it out "for the kids". Couldn't make it to the 17 year old graduating. I have diagnosed PTSD, my doctors were willing to go on record to the judge in the divorce hearing to confirm that my father was the root cause for my PTSD. The horrific things we endured because my parents were "toughing it out" are forever etched into my memory. I had PTSD for so long by the time I was diagnosed, I didn't even realize I was experiencing flashbacks. Divorce and co-parent if you genuinely want to make your kids happy, because if things were bad enough to even consider separating... don't put your kids through it.
Thank you for sharing your story. Hopefully they see this!
My parents did this too. They did wind up ultimately getting through it, AND they didn’t get through it until we were out of the house. I have so much anxiety and PTSD. I didn’t learn how to have a healthy relationship because there wasn’t one modeled for me.
*virtual hug offer* This is allot Laura. You are a good mom. Thank you for helping me laugh and cry when I was mourning the loss of my first 5 pregnancies.
Holy cow 5? I am so sorry. I hope you find nothing but healing and hope from here ❤️
I'm so fucking sorry for your losses, Sara. Your grace and kindness - even in such hardships - is really admirable. I sincerely hope you're doing OK Xx
@@jennyspeicker4712 @SusanBryantInsomniacBookworm Thank you so much for your caring words. It has been a few years since my losses and it does get less painful. During the beginning of my grief, Laura's comedy encouraged and distracted me. I hope Laura can find some sort of help/support as good as herself 💜
It is so crazy the divide that happened between us all! So very eye opening and I understand completely where he is coming from.
I can see the heaviness in your eyes, Laura. This is big on your heart as it would be. Stephen looks like he’s trying to make peace with it. I love how mature conversation amongst so much speculation and all the “good for you, he’s crap” comments. He’s the father of their children, have respect as she does. Follow Laura people. Negative comments aren’t needed. Praise them for sharing their discussion.
Looking at this from a counselor standpoint, it’s clear the dialogue between them is very disconnected. When you see a separated couple come back into a space together and talk, it’s a lot to process without a mediator present, especially when you 1) have a partner that is blame shifting, 2) has media presence, and 3) is constantly spreading content that is controversial.
I agree. I could notice that the conversation was getting nowhere.
Agree... I think they have not fully processed their feelings and situation in private. This is basically them processing it in full view of public scrutiny. I can feel their pain, both of them :(
Proud of you Laura for speaking on this in such a truthful and mature, ADULT way. Wonderful. Proud of you both. Also the change in Stephen is astronomical.
I like the change. Before he was prancing around in shorts pulled up his crack. I was actually embarrassed for him, but figured if he was happy... finding out he wasn't and he's choosing to live up to a level of masculinity that does make him happy should be a good thing.
I am sorry about the divorce guys. I love yall! I love hearing about the kids! Poppy screaming when daddy corrects her, hilarious! I love that Alfie is so good to his sissy! I know kids, I have 4! I am so happy u guys are handling this very well. Ik it is hard regardless. It is a lot for everyone. Ik u guys r trying to make the best decisions. Take care and I am here for the story! Xo
Beautiful communication.. obviously the love is still there, giving time and space to learn and heal, putting those babies first and enjoying precious moments that fly too fast.. god bless your family 🙏🏼