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  • @firmfoundation7421
    @firmfoundation7421 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +52

    I've been an All Black supporter for 55 yrs. We have the utmost respect for Ireland. They are an absolute force to be reckoned with. Ireland rugby is consistently excellent. The All Black team is ready because they've had 2 hit outs including a massive one at Twickenham. Ireland is a step up from England in my opinion. These days we don't expect to win but we know we can win. I love Irish rugby and love to see them succeed. I'm looking forward to two World Class teams going at it in front of an amazing Irish crowd. Biggest game on the planet this week. Much love to Ireland from NZ.

    • @Camcolito
      @Camcolito 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      That's very sporting of you, should be a cracking game whoever wins it!

    • @redmondo42
      @redmondo42 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      The relationship has come a long way since the 60-0. Great rivalry now

    • @waynedaly6553
      @waynedaly6553 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      And ireland have the up most respect for newzealand also, Friday night gonna be a great game

    • @SMacCuUladh
      @SMacCuUladh 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Wonderful comment, I'm sure the game will be a cracker. Good luck to your NZ boys!

    • @Sunflower-dt6ev
      @Sunflower-dt6ev 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @firmfoundation7421 Nonsense. We always expect to win. Always. It's in our rugby dna. I mean, the Home Unions have only won 16 tests versus the ABs from a combined total played of 152. SIXTEEN. To be fair, Ireland has always been there or thereabouts. It just took a bit of Kiwi, Saffa, & Aussie, to help get them there. Good on them.

  • @MadVill04
    @MadVill04 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    “Your players have to get up for the New Zealand game, there's no two ways about it. There has to be fear in the back of your mind there that they will explode into action at some stage, and all the stuff they're trying and maybe not pulling off at the moment, it's going to click, and don't be the team that it clicks against.”
    This is true. I feel the click is coming.

    • @Edgycoo
      @Edgycoo 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      i agree. A team is forming

  • @whakatane6298
    @whakatane6298 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    Don't sleep on Aamua, he is a wrecking ball waiting to be unleashed

    • @hanoitripper1809
      @hanoitripper1809 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@whakatane6298 his main job is lineout throwing.. how’s that going.

    • @Niko7739
      @Niko7739 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hanoitripper1809 his lineout throwing is like a wrecking ball 😂😂😂

  • @Matika_awatea
    @Matika_awatea 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Nz point of view we’ve been waiting over 100 years for Ireland to come to the big boy table finally but don’t get it twisted All Blacks vs South Africa are the biggest game no matter what’s on the line JS

  • @matthewashman1406
    @matthewashman1406 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Im thinking the All Blacks are for me the favorites for this match 😮. They have been playing together, they may have played their bad game,and they do create a lot of opportunities. If they play with discipline and dont drop ball they could do this and well. But Ireland are a very very good side

  • @Steph-we8jg
    @Steph-we8jg 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for that great technical run through of that drop goal play. That being said with the scrum going backwards and that an defence coming hard and pushing them back would there ever have been a good spot for a drop goal? Great podcast too! Setiti played most of his school boy rugby at center.

  • @MurrayMATANGI
    @MurrayMATANGI 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +19

    George Ford missed the penalty because of pressure. Both Jordie Barrett and Ritchie missed kicks in the RWC. That’s what pressure does.

    • @rodeo4-p6u
      @rodeo4-p6u 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      1000% pressure can do crazy things to the best of them

    • @toma411
      @toma411 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Marcus Smith shanked 2 drop kicks in the same game. Can't pin the loss on Ford, it just happens.

    • @jasonwall5012
      @jasonwall5012 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Comparing a test match to a high-pressure RWC match is a madness. But every 10 misses kicks due to pressure or not. If they didn't, they'd be at 100% kicking rate.

    • @icefarrow7959
      @icefarrow7959 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Let's not forget Roigard was blazing towards Ford, with a couple of other ABs behind him. He simply got a hospital pass and then wasn't given the time to do a proper kick. Hardly his fault he missed, it's a team game. Fault lies with everyone.

    • @timgregory82
      @timgregory82 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sexton also in the quarter final

  • @leonardodavinci7425
    @leonardodavinci7425 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Hansen is definitely ahead of Nash in the pecking order

    • @SMacCuUladh
      @SMacCuUladh 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Without doubt, the guy plays like an extra centre half the time, positionally speaking, gives us an extra man in many situations. Nash has his skills but operates like a traditional winger.

    • @leonardodavinci7425
      @leonardodavinci7425 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @SMacCuUladh Nash is a good player but Hansen offers more as an extra play maker.

    • @SMacCuUladh
      @SMacCuUladh 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@leonardodavinci7425 exactly.

  • @eruera52
    @eruera52 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    Some Kiwis saying the Irish have replaced the Springboks as the All Blacks' main opposition is nice, but a load of bollocks! Irish rugby has a long history, but it is still new at the top levels. As the saying goes, "one night in a teepee doesn't make you an Indian." As much as one can respect Ireland's recent success, they must knock over the All Blacks consistently for another century to truly replace the Springboks! Our battles with Boks are beyond legend. My favourite rugby team of all time is the 1965 Springboks! It is so traumatising that it doesn't even make sense. Kiwis supporting the Boks and vice versa is confusing; it's the classic love-hate thing. Some Kiwis even name their kids after their favourite Springbok players - like current ABs15 captain Du Plessis Kirifi! As exciting as this weekend’s match is against a tough Irish team, smashing the Springboks will always be our top achievement!

    • @irishgooooner5928
      @irishgooooner5928 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Well it is our 4th sport lol we're doing alrite

    • @neilmontgomery3470
      @neilmontgomery3470 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Fair enough, we are fairly new to this level. I think Ireland have to knock out SA or NZ in a World Cup for the rivalry to go to a new level.

  • @andrewmcnulty6815
    @andrewmcnulty6815 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Irish fan here - I think NZ will just sneak it. Game time under the belt and some classy runners - Tele'a could skin us on the wings. Hopefully I am wrong.

    • @matthewashman1406
      @matthewashman1406 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Plus Will Jordan,Calib Clark😮. Oh and Wallace Satiti 🎉

    • @hanoitripper1809
      @hanoitripper1809 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      2 tests in a row against a cold Ireland about to play their 1st is a big advantage

    • @SMacCuUladh
      @SMacCuUladh 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      No Baudy reduces their attack a lot, sure their backline is world class and they will score tries but Ireland are marginally superior in every other area of the pitch. Add the difference in the replacements, home advantage and desire to get revenge for the QF and I'm feeling the game is 80/20 in our favour.

    • @matthewashman1406
      @matthewashman1406 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @SMacCuUladh NZ by 5. Wallace Satiti oh yeh

    • @SMacCuUladh
      @SMacCuUladh 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@matthewashman1406 can you tie your shoelaces without any help?

  • @lizzyhanahoe4197
    @lizzyhanahoe4197 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    My biggest concern is that Ireland is coming into this game cold, I would have liked it better if NZ were our third match of this series. Let’s see.

  • @htuck2
    @htuck2 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Massive game - 🥝 by 5 over 🍀

    • @SMacCuUladh
      @SMacCuUladh 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      maybe but I think Ireland have the home and bench advantage and that'll make the difference.

  • @kevinbermingham6186
    @kevinbermingham6186 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Ireland going in having no game but NZ have played twice . I think that will cost Ireland last 10 mins and NZ by a score

    • @roscomroe84
      @roscomroe84 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      6 day turnaround from a hard fought game against England, I'd imagine it'll be the other way around.

  • @johne6479
    @johne6479 33 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    can't pick the winner from this one, haven't been able to for the last few years tbh, and i'm a hard AB's supporter . .but one thing will be sure it will be hard fought , and the winner will be deservedly so . .c'mon the AB's!

  • @plutoniumnitrate1201
    @plutoniumnitrate1201 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Marcus Smith should have stayed on for that kick.....

  • @colinfuller6361
    @colinfuller6361 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If the ABs can eliminate silly penalties, they are odds on favourites.

    • @franksmith8364
      @franksmith8364 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      That’s their gameplan and has been since forever, to rely on timid referees who won’t penalise them. Cynical defence, lazy runners, flop over the rucks, then look astonished if the whistle blows.

  • @Kelvinpaul4
    @Kelvinpaul4 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    What did we learn from the All Black and England game. The referee can be manipulated and this All Black team is still rebuilding with a shorage of x factor players, not the same quality of 20 years ago.

  • @MurrayMATANGI
    @MurrayMATANGI 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    Jonny Sexton missed a sitter against the ABs in 2013 which would have put Ireland 2 scores ahead, pressure.

    • @inamortz2372
      @inamortz2372 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He was concussed

  • @kev63inuk
    @kev63inuk 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    England fan expecting an Irish win. Not a lot between the teams so home advantage should be the key. Did feel like England that Ireland should off played a warm up game.

    • @Marius_vanderLubbe
      @Marius_vanderLubbe 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You had home advantage and lost.

    • @danedwadd62
      @danedwadd62 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Marius_vanderLubbeshould won though tbf

  • @ciaranbrk
    @ciaranbrk 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    In fairness that pass to George ford was awful for. Randal and he gets scapegoated.

  • @Steph-we8jg
    @Steph-we8jg 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    3rd why are you still banging on about the aura? Nobody in the South ever talks about it. Sounds to me like Ireland are waking up from a 100 yr submissive fantasy and blaming the dominatrix! There was only the aura that you and other northern teams bestowed on them
    If the aura is gone it's not because the AB's lost it's because you've finally grown out of your self imposed inferiority complex. Hallelujah! Ireland favourites for this and deservedly so. Bring it on and may the best team win!

  • @tomgreene1843
    @tomgreene1843 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    N Z have a better place kicker ?

    • @davidwalker2402
      @davidwalker2402 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Have to agree with that, Ireland have a better kicker in FRAWLEY and prendercast but probably experience will disqualify them .

  • @José-j9y3b
    @José-j9y3b 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    The goat is pollard, cometh the hour, he always steps up...

  • @redmondo42
    @redmondo42 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Randall could do with watching Murray's pass to Sexton in Paris 2018. That's how you set up a drop goal for your fly half

  • @JACKSLATER-d3r
    @JACKSLATER-d3r 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Beware, that wasn't All Blacks (A) team against England

    • @KeithAnthonyBellairs
      @KeithAnthonyBellairs 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Is their a A team for ab really well they were very lucky to win against England to think England only score one try compare to ab three tries and England almost won shit ab are shit and u think they are good u still living in past Ireland plays better rugby than AB

    • @JACKSLATER-d3r
      @JACKSLATER-d3r 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @KeithAnthonyBellairs 3-0 wins 2024 🖖

  • @hanoitripper1809
    @hanoitripper1809 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Irish runners in attack will confuse nz and draw the same penalties England got

    • @klaus1292
      @klaus1292 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I am pretty sure NZ will be far better this time around, don't underestimate NZ even if its a 6 day turn around

    • @hanoitripper1809
      @hanoitripper1809 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @ after 2 tests in a row they definitely should be better but their cynical play never changes.

    • @klaus1292
      @klaus1292 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@hanoitripper1809They differently will be making some play changes for Ireland indeed.

    • @franksmith8364
      @franksmith8364 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      they’ll need to as will get yellow carded earlier for taking out Irish players

  • @patrickoleary2862
    @patrickoleary2862 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    As an Ireland fan pains me to say it but we could beat All Blacks by 50 points on Friday night + what would it matter / they beat us in the only two games of real consequence in recent years, namely RWC QFs in 2019 + 2023. That's the reality + FFS spare me the "we only lost by 4 points" narrative as if some kind of badge of honour. Could have been 4 points or 40 points - we lost, again.

  • @José-j9y3b
    @José-j9y3b 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Breakthrough player Scha Feinberg...won twice against all blacks...

    • @Conish74
      @Conish74 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      Not everything is about the Springboks. Its ok. Other countries play and talk about rugby too 😂

    • @icefarrow7959
      @icefarrow7959 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      And then injured himself due to his stupidity, as he shouldn't have played in the first place. Real smart bloke that one.

    • @franksmith8364
      @franksmith8364 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@icefarrow7959when

  • @Uwe-gb6nt
    @Uwe-gb6nt 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Ireland team is the Leinster team. They will be ready. Ireland by 6.

    • @paulnash5500
      @paulnash5500 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Different game plan and different coaches.. I wish it was that simple. Come on Ireland 🇮🇪

    • @hanoitripper1809
      @hanoitripper1809 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      How many from other provinces?

    • @bernardtynan1725
      @bernardtynan1725 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@hanoitripper1809 Bealham,Beirne,Aki,Hanson,casey,crowley,o mahoney,Nash,stock dale,timoney,o toole,Henderson,Murray,mc closkey, C Prendergast,Heffernan,Herring,Izuchhkwu
      So 18 from other provinces

    • @hanoitripper1809
      @hanoitripper1809 42 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bernardtynan1725 that’s heaps I didn’t realise.. good mix of lads.

    • @bernardtynan1725
      @bernardtynan1725 10 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@hanoitripper1809 leinster make the bulk of starting team for sure,but lots of guys on the squad

  • @rabbitss11
    @rabbitss11 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ireland should win but the AB's won't be a pushover, another nerve-shredding, squeaky game

    • @RossoVerdeNero
      @RossoVerdeNero 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      There's no way anyone should say "Ireland should win". That would imply we are strong favourites, and there's no way on earth we can think like that against the All Blacks.

    • @rabbitss11
      @rabbitss11 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RossoVerdeNero Why not? Ireland are ranked no.1 in the world and they're playing at home. If they were playing at Eden Park it might be different but these are exactly the kind of games the worlds best team should be winning.

    • @stevenbissett
      @stevenbissett 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@rabbitss11 Ireland are the new England fans, and your comment proves it.

    • @Camcolito
      @Camcolito 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@stevenbissett No it doesn't. NZ would be expecting to win if we were over there and you wouldn't be saying they're arrogant. Ireland's record at home is incredible. Stop talking tripe.

    • @stevenbissett
      @stevenbissett 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Camcolito New Zealand is always most vulnerable at home in the first game of the season. It's why we like to play teams like Fiji first up. To shake the rust off. Most Kiwis would admit to that. But if you think Ireland should beat the All Blacks, then that's your prerogative. I just think the comment was a bit cocky. It was the kind of comment I would expect from a pom.

  • @KiwiGraggle
    @KiwiGraggle 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    And NZ are sitting 3rd. Just this underestimation from the Irish in specific. Just arrogance and ignorance.

    • @Conish74
      @Conish74 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      That’s a very stupid comment. It’s almost as though you’re looking for something to piss you off 🤔

    • @eddiethompson9270
      @eddiethompson9270 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Who’s being arrogant buddy .

    • @28copland
      @28copland 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      From the country that left the urc and has lost a number of clubs to administration because of a weak league and who are now trying the rejoin, ya ye would know a lot about arrogance my friend not to even mention brexit 😂

    • @Camcolito
      @Camcolito 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Jaysus talk about fishing for something to get offended about.

    • @pjappleton6765
      @pjappleton6765 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      I'm English and this is a ridiculous comment which you've unfortunately attached the English rose to. Ireland are number 1 side in the world for a reason and have been humble and class for ages. Apologies to Irish fans for some of our lot talking trash.

  • @Edgycoo
    @Edgycoo 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    amazing to think englands defence is good? the all blacks scored 3 tries. The all blacks defence is no good? england only got one opportunistic try. Remove the ill discipline and the abs won by a land slide. But alas that was not how the game went. If abs click they take ireland easy, if they dont they lose, its close at the top.

    • @Coreylahey1000
      @Coreylahey1000 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Easy? In the Aviva stadium? Come off it. Ireland haven't played since SA but i think they'll be really up for this occasion

    • @Edgycoo
      @Edgycoo 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Coreylahey1000abs are building up. Ireland will be dispatched easily

    • @Edgycoo
      @Edgycoo 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Coreylahey1000 you just watch

  • @Sunflower-dt6ev
    @Sunflower-dt6ev 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why do NH pundits talk about "individual brilliance" as if it's a bad thing. Or a "yes, but" thing implying a try score downgrade. Very weird take.

    • @burncarlow
      @burncarlow 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Individual brilliance is seen as a trait in bad teams with a small number of good players. Rightly or wrongly it's the traditional view. Consistency is viewed as king in the NH.

    • @franksmith8364
      @franksmith8364 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Not weird at all unless you’re new to rugby.

    • @Sunflower-dt6ev
      @Sunflower-dt6ev 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @franksmith8364 it's almost as if they're saying a set play try is worth more than an "individual brilliance" try. Or more worthy. Yeah, nah, that's very weird.

    • @Sunflower-dt6ev
      @Sunflower-dt6ev 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @burncarlow Same. Consistently scoring tries is king in the South. Also, team brilliance & individual brilliance are not incompatible.

    • @burncarlow
      @burncarlow 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Sunflower-dt6ev agree. Individual brilliance tends to be more entertaining also.

  • @michaelmoynihan9591
    @michaelmoynihan9591 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Sa are ahead but what ive seen against the pommies .the aoetearas are pretty poor. .0the irish will batter the kiwis..no contest
    Poor kiwis😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @JimmieCooper-le6vj
      @JimmieCooper-le6vj 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Awwhh the troll moynihan,s back with his usual comments about NZ Shame his little Munster team just lost against a NZ C team.And he still has not recovered from Irelands loss to NZ in the World Cup.Hope his mommy and daddy will be close by,when Ireland lose to NZ again on Friday .😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @944CoyoteV8
    @944CoyoteV8 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    🪴🇳🇿 🤝 🇮🇪🍀
    It's going to be a banger. Whoever wins, I just hope there are no more serious injuries. No more concussions.