When you juxtaposed that NASA X-36 "Tailless Fighter" jet and the B-2, you should immediately have caught yourself: the reason you have NEVER seen a fighter jet like NASA X-36 or like the B-2/B-21---- and will never see it in the foreseeable future ---- is that that design is for GLIDING (fast or slow, you have options). But it's NEVER going to work for fighter jets that need to make rapid & extreme angle changes, very fast, with maximum control. None of these silly Star Trek/Battlestar Galactica/CGI/cartoon drawings ubiquitous on TH-cam ---- B-2/B-21-like, tailless design --- ever is going to be the USA 6th generation fighter jet. There is less than zero chance the US is going to built a fleet of 250 to 500 Battlestar Galactica fighter jets, whether the cost per unit is $150M or $500M. It's just not going to happen. ENGINEERING wise, & militarily, it's just currently not possible. No magical way to do it. (We wouldn't have to wait too long to see that THAT is still the reality. That also, incidentally, is why the B-21 looks roughly 99.99 like the B-2, except it's just smaller: the function of gliding bombers CONFORMS to its shape/structure...) Anyway, you either "tilt" those giant, tail-end flappers like what's seen on the YF-23 or you "tilt" them "inwardly" like the SR-71... with the front & larger wings a permutation between the YF-23 and the SR-71. And I do believe SKUNK WORKS at LM has released some recent DRAWINGS of that nature, among other highly unrealistic designs (of which most will never work, for fighter jets).
sorry pal but you are wrong starting with a false premise that fighters need to be manouverable, you are basing this on the premise of fighters making it to the merge, at least within visual range, with missiles such as meteor this isnt ogoing to happen. NGAD, next gen air dominance, no one mentions manouver warfare, just dominating the opponent, this can be done from long range, expect combat drones to be more manouverable, but expect ngad to be big, very big, fast and opperating very high, a long way back 100 miles+. probably bigger than F15 with lots of excess power for electricl generation capability@@kiabtoomlauj6249
And most of his own footage. There are so many videos now made of old footage with the narrator reading straight off the wikipaedia article. It's nice to see some unique content.
They've working on all kinds of things for decades, including "Hypersonics". The new fighter could be anything. Even Aviation Weekly doesn't know what it is. 😜
Sidenote: A couple of years ago there was a pictures leaked during transport of a design mounted on a test stand for radar testing rumored to be the NGAD. This design looked wild, but what many don't know is that the mock up is mounted upside down on the tower. If you compare these it looks almost identical, albeit a bit more blended and missing canards, to the design of this.
Don't read too much into the SU-27 forward control surfaces. Even the F14 had similar in early versions which was later disabled. Not new and usage would bleed a lot of energy which has downsides too.
It’s crazy how slow development is for fighter jets. By the time a new jet is developed and enter service it’s intended purpose may have expired years before.
One of the reasons the X36 was rejected was due to the canards affecting its stealth characteristics. So I very seriously doubt that the U.S. will employ them especially seeing how everyone seems to think the 6th gen won’t focus much on high maneuverability and speed to beyond visual range combat. Which I think will ultimately end up becoming a big mistake just like the removal of guns on the F4. A radar system can eventually be built that will eliminate the advantage of stealth and will result in visual range combat and/or situations when you have a lot of aircraft coming at you from different directions.
I advise anyone who can visit this museum does, also the Henry Ford museum north in Detroit. My father took me to dayton when i was a child, he has passed and i brought my son there. Be it military, aircraft or space craft the place is a goldmine for anyone interested.
The prototype program wasn't classified, so hiding the 2 planes would be a red flag. I assume if the design went forward into the dark world it informed aspects of current design, including drones.
Very interesting video, my friend! 👍🏻🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸👍🏻 Greatly enjoyed your coverage. One can only imagine the amazing aircraft that have never made it into the light of day.
Interesting how the YF-23 is so much closer to what will be 6th gen than the F-22. And the new engine is a development of the one that they turned down in the same competition. They were not all-in on stealth and took the safer, if less inspired, choices.
There may still be a place for the YF - 23 because the Japanese are really interested in using it - if the new engine can be developed and can use supercruise.
Looks very sleek, and I think we can all be pretty sure in assuming, that this has spawned several successors and follow on models and programs, something like this is most certainly already flying.
You shown it, so I'll rant about it. Screw Donald rice and the decision against Northrop. We got stuck with an extraordinary expensive aircraft with less than 200 built, doesn't look nearly as cool as the yf23 or even some Sukhoi's or Migs, Super early retirement plan already planned, and is mostly recognized for shooting down a data balloon. Even if the yf23 had the same exact career and outcome it would be a more badass airframe in museums haha Of course all super subjective and just having fun..KINDA
It appears we stopped working on objects we have to move their mass thru an atmosphere of gashes space. Moving thru a liquid to a gas is easy, but to go from pressure to vacuum and have angular control, well that something we can see, and we fail at the invisible. Once you understand vacuum energy, light in all its forms then gravity is simple, and lift is funny. Gravity? Is a thing or force? My favorite wave? And whats a wave or field? I know quantum spooky intang never mind you got this!
So, if 6th gens are gonna be stealthy to avoid the missiles that are gonna be slung at them from hundreds of miles away, then doesn't that mean they'll always end up at the merge and dogfight, eh?
The point of better stealth is that you can detect the enemy before the enemy can detect you, and fire your missiles before they even know you're there. And, if you're being fired at, the missiles coming for you will be unable to, or have difficulty, getting a lock. Missile radars have small emitters and very short wavelengths, so they should be more disadvantaged than a search/track radar on an aircraft or on the ground.
yes, if both sides were sufficiently stealthy, close range dogfights could occur once again. But other long range detection capabilities are being developed and added to aircraft, including stealth aircraft.
The theory is that NGAD doesn't carry missiles, so it will never be detected. The drones that fly with it carry and fire missiles so only the drones are detected and the drones are collateral damage no one cares if they get hit, as long as NGaD gets home in one piece
x36 is such a beautiful aircraft. It looks clean and unconventional. The canards providing the necessary controlability due to the planes natural instable flight behaviour. A pilot alone could never keep it in the air - the computer does.
Thanks for the video, Paul! However, I don't think there's any way that's a 1/28 scale prototype. Even if the prototype is only 4 m long (and it looks longer), that would mean the full-size fighter would be 112 meters long.
havent i been saying it years ago? it was odd that the US must tested what they earlier claim as "drones" (miniature) but has FULL shape of what normally should be a "manned" fighter jet. complete with its front nosecone volume etc. it looks very fighter jet. and i remember they were testing the unmanned small size models of it on AIRCRAFT CARRIERS.
There are some interest points raised here. The portions between the outline of the NGAD concept and the X-36 that stand out to me are the sort of wide strake-like shaped nose, perhaps an attempt to blend a leading edge extension into the body itself, additionally that rearmost point does seem to be shaped like what I'm guessing was meant to be a heat-obscuring shround for the engine exhaust. I'm curious about those intakes though, would that boundary layer separator increase radar returns? I feel like getting rid of that and somehow coming up with an internal shape to act as a divertless supersonic intake bump would be advantageous in that regard. While I think there's a good potential for both depictions as a stealth fighter development program, my understanding of what both NGAD and F/A-XX are trying to do leads me to think that the result will be a low-observable aircraft with a size and/or crew complement resembling that of an F-111 or EA-6B.
I wonder how much of X36 project and McDonnel Douglas's JAST design influenced the MQ28A drone? Will be interesting to see how the MQ28A evolves in the years and decades to come. Maybe it will get larger and be able to internally carry larger sensors and more/larger kinetic payloads like AARGM-ER's, NSM's or some other anti ship missile.
The MD USAF F-4E had a internal mounted gun under the Radar dome. Also I really does my head in the term "optionally manned". Either "man it" or save the money, weight and structure and go unmanned!😩
Over Thanksgiving break, I too came to the conclusion that the X plane we were told to have a connection to the NGAD fighter was the X-36, so it has many characteristics for a stealth fighter, besides the size.
Well.. i look at the American X planes and every X-plane including X-51 have been published and are in numbered order. But X-52, X-58, X-63 and X-64 are "skipped" For X-58 there is a compeling explanation, for X-52, X-63 and X-64 there is not.. Also.. The two later is very recent so it make sense they would still be classified. The X-63 and X-64 is to recent to be the Ngad. That leaves us with only the X-52 that have a explination that is very uncompelling. of cause.. it could be any weapon program. But it match well in time when a Ngad program would have been started. Unlike the plane called "SR72" that probobly would have been a spin of from X-51, it would at the earliest be called the X-56. Of cause, with that, its absolutely possible that ngad is a Y plane, probobly like YF-41 or something like that Personally i don´t belive that the "sr-72" exist as a full scale flying plane at this date. Its probobly a scale model that need to be launched. But for the Ngad... Remember YF22 and YF23 had first flight in 1990.. There are more clues. The X44 was canceled in 2000. Why was that. Budget cuts.. its possible. But x44 is incredibly similar to what we no know as ngad. The X44 was canceled after a bit more than one year of solid research. I see two possibility. 1: they wanted to go dark with it. 2: the lossed the budget. Either way the program might have been.. or even almost likely had been resurrected as a dark program. If that was in 2001 or if it was later is hard to say.. But.. well X-52 fits PERFECTLY in that slot. So my guess is that X44 went dark, they made a semi full scale prototype, flew it for a few years, then shelled the project until somewhere around 2017-2018, when it was resurrected as YF-... something, when it was built and flown... And information was leaked intentionally last year to eventually show it of, probobly this year
I saw the United States Government's antigravity craft on August 30th 2023. It was skimming the treetops about 40 feet above me. It is triangle shaped craft that has lights in the corners and center with red and green navigation lights on it also strobes. It was traveling west to east with a slight rotation and it didn't change it's direction of travel. Being just above the tree tops it didn't shake any leaves on the trees. It didn't make any sound that I could hear from the inside of my vehicle. It was painted gray like the new stealth bomber and it's access panels were highlighted. I was on Indiana highway 446 close to the Hoosier national forest sign around 9:10pm. That craft probably will never come out. The Antigravity craft most likely can travel faster than 10,000 miles per hour. I would guess that it was created by Northrop Grumman because of it's similarity in design aspects as the new stealth bomber. Northrop's facilities are in a straight line from the point that I had my sighting and if you calculate the Estimate of time of darkness to travel in the cover of night from any known facilities it had to be traveling around a minimum of 10,000 miles per hour.
The Rudder is really there more for directional stability than manuverability. Rudder typically isn´t used that much in dogfights, and really even in general. Mostly at take of and landing. But its still need to be that for directional stability.. well unless that is gained in a other way
So, I've heard of these "6th gen fighters", even in Top Gun Maverick, but what are officially the first 5 generations? Is a Sopwith Camel a first Gen fighter?
Hey Paul, love your channel! I just watched a video from Alex Hollings on his channel - AirPower - Sandboxx News. I assume you’d be all over it but a check out his latest video on the SR-71 successor the SR-72 if you’re interested in that stuff. All the best 👍🏾
@@PaulStewartAviation amazing. I thought you would be. I’m planning a trip to the states (from Australia) and wanted to check out a few of the aviation/aeronautical museums…my timeframe might dictate I only have time for one, or maybe two…would you have any advice or tips?
Look at X-44 manta to see how NGAD might look. Beside, if 2 stealth fighter are fighting against each other, they might detect each other from quite small distance, hence find themself in a short range maneuver fight. Maneuverability is still important for stealth fighters.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 Dude, i've seen on TH-cam infrared video of a F35 landing vertically on a carrier. It was incredible, how well F35 was blending into the background. Video was quickly deleted from TH-cam. Technology reducing range of detection in infrared is pretty advanced already.
Think about this...What is wildly considered to be the most advanced fighter jet in the world the F-22 Raptor's first demonstrator rolled off the line August 29th 1990, and its first flight took place exactly one month later. Its conceptualization and design began sometime between 1985 and 86 with Lockeed submitting the bid to the us government in 86 and beginning actual work on the aircraft. So the worlds most dangerous aircraft that has really never been put to the test in active combat, and is still incredibly classified... started design 11 years, and flew for the first time 7 years before the first 802.11 a and b WiFi standards were ratified. (By the way those had a 54 Mbps and 11 Mbps theoretical max bandwidth respectively). This thing was built 3 years after the YF-22 demonstrator flew. We all know that there are stealth Blackhawk helicopters that we have seen the tail section of from the Bin Laden raid....That was almost 13 years ago now, and yet with everyone walking around with a cell phone high rez camera in their pocket...we still have never seen that helicopter. They will show us the new B-21 Raider....but what do they really have. Makes you wonder with all that DARPA money, and the endless funds that flow into the skunkworks.
How can this be a “1/28th scale” prototype? It appears to be nearly 10 feet in length. That implies a “fighter” of 280 feet, in full scale. Something not adding up. The F-14 (a very large two seat aircraft) was less than one quarter the size. Are you sure you didn’t mean to say 28% of actual full size? That would make the production craft more like 40-50 foot long.
I found myself in a discussion with someone about a gun on the NGAD. They were adamant that it wasn't necessary, I reminded them that someone at McDonnell Douglas said the same about the F-4 during design and how poorly that ended up going. It became clear I was talking to a brick wall.
Yes because " they tried without it before on a different plane with a different mission in a different time, so it'll always be necessary and will never be okay to remove or unnecessary to add, nothing ever changes" is such a great way to go about things. Maybe look at the f35 the b model of which has no integrated gun and performance just fine. Your also not really considering the performance envelope these likely will be operating in for the majority of the time which would make firing bullets potentially hazardous to the firing craft.
@@MrDJAK777 A) Again, "The F-4 was a different machine for a different time with different technology available" said the MD Engineers while looking at the history of aircraft warfare. The F-4 was heavy, unmaneuverable at low speed, and lacked a basic defensive tool, the gun. B) The F-35 has not been battle tested. Fine performance cannot be asserted until that is the case. My racecar is the fastest thing in the county until I take it to the track to find out. C) I am considering the performance envelope that these aircraft will be operating in. They are a fighter aircraft, they fight, if they can't, then they are Patriot with wings.
@@PaulStewartAviation Maybe it's a regional thing, saying 28th scale when one means 28 percent. but I would call this 4th scale as in 1 to 4 (roughly).
2:08 the lack of vertical tail has NOTHING to do with pitch and roll, that's YAW. The plane doesn't "twist", it "yaws". 2:13 this does NOT have a thrust vectoring nozzle, unless it moved within the limits of that fixed nozzle, which is going to limit its effectiveness. Probably more for stability control that maneuvering. 8:10 the Su-57 does Not have canards. those are more akin to leading edge flaps than canards. They don't do anything that a canard does.
1. This is missing a horizontal tail as well, and that does pitch and roll. 2. It does have a movable nozzle. Google it 3. I said its like a canard on the su57
@@PaulStewartAviation "1. This is missing a horizontal tail as well, and that does pitch and roll." Wrong, it has canards and wings (elevons) like any other canard, delta, or flying wing design. The vertical tail does not control pitch nor roll. It can assist with them via fly-by-wire depending upon teh final shape and orientation. But lacking a vertical tail at its core is SOLELY about yaw stability and control. You can do a Y or V tail configuration and combine features, but the vertical component of the structure exists for yaw stability. There are other ways to control yaw stability without a vertical tail (the same way birds do it for example). The vertical tail on an F-16, F-15, Typhoon, P-51, etc. does not control pitch nor roll, they control YAW. This is aircraft design and control 101 stuff. "2. It does have a movable nozzle. Google it" I know it says it has a movable nozzle, but all pictures, video, and actual aircraft show a FIXED nozzle (look at your own footage). If the nozzle were inside the fuselage, then its range of motion is Severely limited by the external features. Which is why it must be about stability rather than maneuvering. "3. I said its like a canard on the su57" Except that it's literally NOTHING like a canard. Do some proper research into aerospace engineering and aerodynamics and learn what you're talking about. These two features couldn't be more different from one another. You might as well call a hydraulic cylinder a wing if you try to make that comparison.
Weird you guys think you can make a 6th generation when all your 5th gen failed and don't even get used in real combat (no, being covered by real fighters while on fake bombing runs is not real combat) oh, except a chinese balloon, which the pilots had to explain was actually hard to shoot down...😂
@PaulStewartAviation have the f 35's ever been deployed east against Russia ever since the black sea incident with turkey amd some s 300's? No? Weird...have any f 22's ever been deployed east or anywhere not an airshow? No? Weird...how many f 35's have crashed in the last 18 months? 5? Holy sh*t what a great sounding 100 million "fighter with 100 losses overall and no kills meaning it has over a billion in losses with zero kills. 😳 cool facts bro...
Whatever comes out, things are moving way faster than ever before due to the digitization of the development process (oh, and distant threats from near peer adversaries). That combined with 3D printing/materials, it's going to be a major leap due to the advances with adaptive cycle engines, and ramjet (Hermeus) and scramjets. Although, when will ever see any of this because the NGAD, F/A-XX, and SR-72, all do not have to be disclosed to the public, unlike the B-21..... sucks for us aerospace enthusiasts, hahaha
Right? The b-21 is cool and all but come on, they could at least show off a little of the crazy stuff. I just can't wait to find out more about the sr-72.
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Thanks for watching everyone! I meant to say that this was built to 28% scale of a possible fighter aircraft.
hey that's the spirit! I appreciate it sir!
I mean as someone who, you know, used to build a lot of model aircraft at various scales, usually 1/48 or 1/72
When you juxtaposed that NASA X-36 "Tailless Fighter" jet and the B-2, you should immediately have caught yourself:
the reason you have NEVER seen a fighter jet like NASA X-36 or like the B-2/B-21---- and will never see it in the foreseeable future ---- is that that design is for GLIDING (fast or slow, you have options). But it's NEVER going to work for fighter jets that need to make rapid & extreme angle changes, very fast, with maximum control.
None of these silly Star Trek/Battlestar Galactica/CGI/cartoon drawings ubiquitous on TH-cam ---- B-2/B-21-like, tailless design --- ever is going to be the USA 6th generation fighter jet.
There is less than zero chance the US is going to built a fleet of 250 to 500 Battlestar Galactica fighter jets, whether the cost per unit is $150M or $500M. It's just not going to happen. ENGINEERING wise, & militarily, it's just currently not possible. No magical way to do it.
(We wouldn't have to wait too long to see that THAT is still the reality. That also, incidentally, is why the B-21 looks roughly 99.99 like the B-2, except it's just smaller: the function of gliding bombers CONFORMS to its shape/structure...)
Anyway, you either "tilt" those giant, tail-end flappers like what's seen on the YF-23 or you "tilt" them "inwardly" like the SR-71... with the front & larger wings a permutation between the YF-23 and the SR-71.
And I do believe SKUNK WORKS at LM has released some recent DRAWINGS of that nature, among other highly unrealistic designs (of which most will never work, for fighter jets).
not even close to ngad, the canards are far you comprimising of stealth
sorry pal but you are wrong starting with a false premise that fighters need to be manouverable, you are basing this on the premise of fighters making it to the merge, at least within visual range, with missiles such as meteor this isnt ogoing to happen. NGAD, next gen air dominance, no one mentions manouver warfare, just dominating the opponent, this can be done from long range, expect combat drones to be more manouverable, but expect ngad to be big, very big, fast and opperating very high, a long way back 100 miles+. probably bigger than F15 with lots of excess power for electricl generation capability@@kiabtoomlauj6249
You're on the internet ... so clearly the X36 successor is designed to be flown by cats. 😼
haha
Poptart cat doesnt need a plane.
lmao
That was a genius comment 😊
That's the movie Project X, but instead of cats, it's monkeys.
China gonna copy this for sure.
Funny if they had added a 28 % scale gun to this. Normal US fighters use 20 mm today, so that would mean a 5.56 mm automatic rifle, like an M16. :D
Great vid. So refreshing to see someone host their own aviation videos and use their own voice. No robot diction. Hats off to you sir! Subscribed.
And most of his own footage. There are so many videos now made of old footage with the narrator reading straight off the wikipaedia article. It's nice to see some unique content.
Cheers! :)
They've working on all kinds of things for decades, including "Hypersonics". The new fighter could be anything. Even Aviation Weekly doesn't know what it is. 😜
The X-36 is probably my favorite aircraft at the USAF museum, because it contradicts everything else that you see before it by being tiny
Sidenote:
A couple of years ago there was a pictures leaked during transport of a design mounted on a test stand for radar testing rumored to be the NGAD. This design looked wild, but what many don't know is that the mock up is mounted upside down on the tower.
If you compare these it looks almost identical, albeit a bit more blended and missing canards, to the design of this.
If you are interested @PaulStewart, Google "NGAD Radar leak", flip the image upside down, and compare to the X36.
What do I search up to find those photos?
This is interesting stuff to me.
They totally missed the chance to draw Beavis and Butthead on the canopy.
haha
definitely expecting it to look something between an X-44 and X-36
I think contemporary stealth designs in the United States avoid canards because they make it harder to reduce radar cross section.
That's my understanding too
Don't read too much into the SU-27 forward control surfaces. Even the F14 had similar in early versions which was later disabled. Not new and usage would bleed a lot of energy which has downsides too.
It’s crazy how slow development is for fighter jets. By the time a new jet is developed and enter service it’s intended purpose may have expired years before.
Just think F-106 to F-15 timeframe! Pretty wild, isn't it?
This is usually because of material/technology limitations. The designs have to wait for the tech to be created.
Really interesting that one and what the 6th gen will look like, but, I think you make some valid points 👍
Yes time will tell. I reckon we'll see the 6th gen jet in a year or two.
One of the reasons the X36 was rejected was due to the canards affecting its stealth characteristics. So I very seriously doubt that the U.S. will employ them especially seeing how everyone seems to think the 6th gen won’t focus much on high maneuverability and speed to beyond visual range combat. Which I think will ultimately end up becoming a big mistake just like the removal of guns on the F4. A radar system can eventually be built that will eliminate the advantage of stealth and will result in visual range combat and/or situations when you have a lot of aircraft coming at you from different directions.
I advise anyone who can visit this museum does, also the Henry Ford museum north in Detroit. My father took me to dayton when i was a child, he has passed and i brought my son there. Be it military, aircraft or space craft the place is a goldmine for anyone interested.
Forget about that stupid thing. Where’s the 106 vid???????!
That’s coming :)
That was some great footage and info. I would classify this not as a prototype but more of a Poof-of-concept. Also, aren't all canards at the front?
The prototype program wasn't classified, so hiding the 2 planes would be a red flag. I assume if the design went forward into the dark world it informed aspects of current design, including drones.
Agreed
It was classified until it flew
The Williams F-112 was the power-plant for the AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile.
Very interesting video, my friend! 👍🏻🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸👍🏻 Greatly enjoyed your coverage. One can only imagine the amazing aircraft that have never made it into the light of day.
Somewhere out there is a German RC plane enthusiast watching this video and saying, "cute model...amateurs".
ahaha
Interesting how the YF-23 is so much closer to what will be 6th gen than the F-22. And the new engine is a development of the one that they turned down in the same competition. They were not all-in on stealth and took the safer, if less inspired, choices.
I believe the f-22 super cruise speed was why they went with it.
You have a fun time you'll have some great memories
There may still be a place for the YF - 23 because the Japanese are really interested in using it - if the new engine can be developed and can use supercruise.
Looks very sleek, and I think we can all be pretty sure in assuming, that this has spawned several successors and follow on models and programs, something like this is most certainly already flying.
Fascinating presentation re the Boeing X36 Paul - great commentary and video.
You shown it, so I'll rant about it. Screw Donald rice and the decision against Northrop. We got stuck with an extraordinary expensive aircraft with less than 200 built, doesn't look nearly as cool as the yf23 or even some Sukhoi's or Migs, Super early retirement plan already planned, and is mostly recognized for shooting down a data balloon.
Even if the yf23 had the same exact career and outcome it would be a more badass airframe in museums haha
Of course all super subjective and just having fun..KINDA
Fascinating video - and no, I had never heard of this one before.
It appears we stopped working on objects we have to move their mass thru an atmosphere of gashes space. Moving thru a liquid to a gas is easy, but to go from pressure to vacuum and have angular control, well that something we can see, and we fail at the invisible. Once you understand vacuum energy, light in all its forms then gravity is simple, and lift is funny. Gravity? Is a thing or force? My favorite wave? And whats a wave or field? I know quantum spooky intang never mind you got this!
So, if 6th gens are gonna be stealthy to avoid the missiles that are gonna be slung at them from hundreds of miles away, then doesn't that mean they'll always end up at the merge and dogfight, eh?
The point of better stealth is that you can detect the enemy before the enemy can detect you, and fire your missiles before they even know you're there. And, if you're being fired at, the missiles coming for you will be unable to, or have difficulty, getting a lock. Missile radars have small emitters and very short wavelengths, so they should be more disadvantaged than a search/track radar on an aircraft or on the ground.
yes, if both sides were sufficiently stealthy, close range dogfights could occur once again. But other long range detection capabilities are being developed and added to aircraft, including stealth aircraft.
It possible
The theory is that NGAD doesn't carry missiles, so it will never be detected. The drones that fly with it carry and fire missiles so only the drones are detected and the drones are collateral damage no one cares if they get hit, as long as NGaD gets home in one piece
x36 is such a beautiful aircraft. It looks clean and unconventional. The canards providing the necessary controlability due to the planes natural instable flight behaviour. A pilot alone could never keep it in the air - the computer does.
As usual we allow 30 year old tech to surface when a peer becomes comparable. They working on 2050's planes right now.
Did you say McDonald's Douglas? It has Boeing written right on the side of it...? I was commenting to soon sorry. Lol.
most ideas dont become relevant until costs come down and tech catches up. laser weapons were known for 50+ years but theyre just becoming viable now
Colonel Prue uses a certain recognizable design language with his aircraft, degree in computer science helps a great deal as well…
I think the YF 23 makes a better NGAD platform because it has better stealth, range, speed than f22.
Kid in a candy store air and space museum in Washington's incredible highly recommend you can touch a piece of moon Rock
Thanks for the video, Paul! However, I don't think there's any way that's a 1/28 scale prototype. Even if the prototype is only 4 m long (and it looks longer), that would mean the full-size fighter would be 112 meters long.
I was wondering if someone was using weight or wing area. But I've never heard those used before. It's sure not 1/28 scale.
I wonder if the script sad „1 to 8“
Ops sorry about that, I meant 28% scale. 😂
The 6th gen fighter wont be a single fleet. Its going to be multiple designs that stay in testing prototype phase development.
The HiMat was before the X-36.
You shot think of doing a video on the HiMat.
How can anyone trust Boeing today ? So many from planes to space craft
Hey my names on that bird
the new X-36 but ultimately is a prototype until we get more concrete info. hmm
I don't think there will be a full-scale fighter based on this, but I do expect similar-looking fighter drones flying along with a controller fighter.
Who are the two characters depicted on the cockpit glass??? 😂
The NGAD has been flying since 2019
The movie stealth with Jamie Fox was our first look.
Dont forget we test with 11 generation please go and not dont go!👽
Futuristic = uglier designs (just my opinion)
Just like the HIMAT, at least the sub scale remote control demonstrator
Spending 50 years to finally create the flying dorito of death
Interesting…
Great video, very interesting explanation ❤
How many trillion is that thing going to be.
havent i been saying it years ago? it was odd that the US must tested what they earlier claim as "drones" (miniature) but has FULL shape of what normally should be a "manned" fighter jet. complete with its front nosecone volume etc. it looks very fighter jet. and i remember they were testing the unmanned small size models of it on AIRCRAFT CARRIERS.
it looks like a mechanical plesiosaur.
Fancy design but useless in real battle
There are some interest points raised here. The portions between the outline of the NGAD concept and the X-36 that stand out to me are the sort of wide strake-like shaped nose, perhaps an attempt to blend a leading edge extension into the body itself, additionally that rearmost point does seem to be shaped like what I'm guessing was meant to be a heat-obscuring shround for the engine exhaust. I'm curious about those intakes though, would that boundary layer separator increase radar returns? I feel like getting rid of that and somehow coming up with an internal shape to act as a divertless supersonic intake bump would be advantageous in that regard.
While I think there's a good potential for both depictions as a stealth fighter development program, my understanding of what both NGAD and F/A-XX are trying to do leads me to think that the result will be a low-observable aircraft with a size and/or crew complement resembling that of an F-111 or EA-6B.
Only 500 million dollars each.
You saw the next jet in topgun :-)
Does it look familiar
Look closely
I wonder how much of X36 project and McDonnel Douglas's JAST design influenced the MQ28A drone? Will be interesting to see how the MQ28A evolves in the years and decades to come. Maybe it will get larger and be able to internally carry larger sensors and more/larger kinetic payloads like AARGM-ER's, NSM's or some other anti ship missile.
The MD USAF F-4E had a internal mounted gun under the Radar dome. Also I really does my head in the term "optionally manned". Either "man it" or save the money, weight and structure and go unmanned!😩
Possibly it was future classified programs tech being tested in the white world, or in the open then when demonstrated went into the black .
what is that? a plane for ants?
Over Thanksgiving break, I too came to the conclusion that the X plane we were told to have a connection to the NGAD fighter was the X-36, so it has many characteristics for a stealth fighter, besides the size.
It looks like a mix of the Adf-11 and the mq-99 from ac7
Based statement and observation
I would have guessed the Rockwell-MBB X-31...
NGAD will likely be closer to the X-44 Manta...also tail less.
XFA-36 Game moment
Well.. i look at the American X planes and every X-plane including X-51 have been published and are in numbered order. But X-52, X-58, X-63 and X-64 are "skipped"
For X-58 there is a compeling explanation, for X-52, X-63 and X-64 there is not.. Also.. The two later is very recent so it make sense they would still be classified.
The X-63 and X-64 is to recent to be the Ngad. That leaves us with only the X-52 that have a explination that is very uncompelling.
of cause.. it could be any weapon program. But it match well in time when a Ngad program would have been started. Unlike the plane called "SR72" that probobly would have been a spin of from X-51, it would at the earliest be called the X-56.
Of cause, with that, its absolutely possible that ngad is a Y plane, probobly like YF-41 or something like that
Personally i don´t belive that the "sr-72" exist as a full scale flying plane at this date. Its probobly a scale model that need to be launched.
But for the Ngad... Remember YF22 and YF23 had first flight in 1990..
There are more clues. The X44 was canceled in 2000. Why was that. Budget cuts.. its possible. But x44 is incredibly similar to what we no know as ngad.
The X44 was canceled after a bit more than one year of solid research. I see two possibility. 1: they wanted to go dark with it. 2: the lossed the budget.
Either way the program might have been.. or even almost likely had been resurrected as a dark program. If that was in 2001 or if it was later is hard to say.. But.. well X-52 fits PERFECTLY in that slot.
So my guess is that X44 went dark, they made a semi full scale prototype, flew it for a few years, then shelled the project until somewhere around 2017-2018, when it was resurrected as YF-... something, when it was built and flown... And information was leaked intentionally last year to eventually show it of, probobly this year
Same qaher f313
I saw the United States Government's antigravity craft on August 30th 2023. It was skimming the treetops about 40 feet above me. It is triangle shaped craft that has lights in the corners and center with red and green navigation lights on it also strobes. It was traveling west to east with a slight rotation and it didn't change it's direction of travel. Being just above the tree tops it didn't shake any leaves on the trees. It didn't make any sound that I could hear from the inside of my vehicle. It was painted gray like the new stealth bomber and it's access panels were highlighted. I was on Indiana highway 446 close to the Hoosier national forest sign around 9:10pm. That craft probably will never come out. The Antigravity craft most likely can travel faster than 10,000 miles per hour. I would guess that it was created by Northrop Grumman because of it's similarity in design aspects as the new stealth bomber. Northrop's facilities are in a straight line from the point that I had my sighting and if you calculate the Estimate of time of darkness to travel in the cover of night from any known facilities it had to be traveling around a minimum of 10,000 miles per hour.
What makes you believe that it is uses anti gravity technology?
On the SU-57,FELON, are no! CANARDS! It's for the airflow, at high angles, over the fuselage/wing. Like the dogtooth by the MiG 23M.😊
It's a leading edge flap
The Rudder is really there more for directional stability than manuverability. Rudder typically isn´t used that much in dogfights, and really even in general. Mostly at take of and landing.
But its still need to be that for directional stability.. well unless that is gained in a other way
Good guess.
So, I've heard of these "6th gen fighters", even in Top Gun Maverick, but what are officially the first 5 generations? Is a Sopwith Camel a first Gen fighter?
The F-22, F-35 are definitely fifth generation. The Su-57, and J-20/J-31 are debatable
Very cool!
Very interesting video!
Thank you very much, Paul, for sharing your video with us.
My pleasure!
This was a proof of concept, nothing more nothing less.
We'll see ;)
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X 36 Is such a beautiful bird
Hey Paul, love your channel! I just watched a video from Alex Hollings on his channel - AirPower - Sandboxx News. I assume you’d be all over it but a check out his latest video on the SR-71 successor the SR-72 if you’re interested in that stuff. All the best 👍🏾
Yep I watched it last night over dinner :)
@@PaulStewartAviation amazing. I thought you would be. I’m planning a trip to the states (from Australia) and wanted to check out a few of the aviation/aeronautical museums…my timeframe might dictate I only have time for one, or maybe two…would you have any advice or tips?
Look at X-44 manta to see how NGAD might look.
Beside, if 2 stealth fighter are fighting against each other, they might detect each other from quite small distance, hence find themself in a short range maneuver fight.
Maneuverability is still important for stealth fighters.
No the hell they won't lmao. IR imagers can't be fooled at mid range. Neither can multimode seekers.
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Dude, i've seen on TH-cam infrared video of a F35 landing vertically on a carrier.
It was incredible, how well F35 was blending into the background.
Video was quickly deleted from TH-cam.
Technology reducing range of detection in infrared is pretty advanced already.
Very interesting Paul!
Cheers
I think NGAD will be tail less but not look much like this.
Think about this...What is wildly considered to be the most advanced fighter jet in the world the F-22 Raptor's first demonstrator rolled off the line August 29th 1990, and its first flight took place exactly one month later. Its conceptualization and design began sometime between 1985 and 86 with Lockeed submitting the bid to the us government in 86 and beginning actual work on the aircraft. So the worlds most dangerous aircraft that has really never been put to the test in active combat, and is still incredibly classified... started design 11 years, and flew for the first time 7 years before the first 802.11 a and b WiFi standards were ratified. (By the way those had a 54 Mbps and 11 Mbps theoretical max bandwidth respectively). This thing was built 3 years after the YF-22 demonstrator flew. We all know that there are stealth Blackhawk helicopters that we have seen the tail section of from the Bin Laden raid....That was almost 13 years ago now, and yet with everyone walking around with a cell phone high rez camera in their pocket...we still have never seen that helicopter. They will show us the new B-21 Raider....but what do they really have. Makes you wonder with all that DARPA money, and the endless funds that flow into the skunkworks.
How can this be a “1/28th scale” prototype? It appears to be nearly 10 feet in length. That implies a “fighter” of 280 feet, in full scale. Something not adding up. The F-14 (a very large two seat aircraft) was less than one quarter the size. Are you sure you didn’t mean to say 28% of actual full size? That would make the production craft more like 40-50 foot long.
Sorry I meant 28% scale
I found myself in a discussion with someone about a gun on the NGAD. They were adamant that it wasn't necessary, I reminded them that someone at McDonnell Douglas said the same about the F-4 during design and how poorly that ended up going. It became clear I was talking to a brick wall.
Yes because
" they tried without it before on a different plane with a different mission in a different time, so it'll always be necessary and will never be okay to remove or unnecessary to add, nothing ever changes" is such a great way to go about things. Maybe look at the f35 the b model of which has no integrated gun and performance just fine. Your also not really considering the performance envelope these likely will be operating in for the majority of the time which would make firing bullets potentially hazardous to the firing craft.
@@MrDJAK777
A) Again, "The F-4 was a different machine for a different time with different technology available" said the MD Engineers while looking at the history of aircraft warfare. The F-4 was heavy, unmaneuverable at low speed, and lacked a basic defensive tool, the gun.
B) The F-35 has not been battle tested. Fine performance cannot be asserted until that is the case. My racecar is the fastest thing in the county until I take it to the track to find out.
C) I am considering the performance envelope that these aircraft will be operating in. They are a fighter aircraft, they fight, if they can't, then they are Patriot with wings.
Amazing !!!
Thanks!!
Paul another superb vlog in the series
Cheers
Good show sir good good show thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
This was designed in 1997. It's NOT a 6th gen plane.
We know. That was all in the video:
Very interesting stuff 👍
Cheers
It wasn't "McDonald" It was "McDonnell Douglas". McDonnell was an aircraft corporation that merged with the Douglass Aircraft Company in 1967.
My mistake, I did mean MD.
28th scale doesn't make any sense, this is 28 percent scale, or roughly quarter scale.
28% scale
@@PaulStewartAviation Maybe it's a regional thing, saying 28th scale when one means 28 percent. but I would call this 4th scale as in 1 to 4 (roughly).
yeah my mistake, I should have made it clearer :) @@rolfkarlstad4015
Interesting!
Glad you think so!
2:08 the lack of vertical tail has NOTHING to do with pitch and roll, that's YAW. The plane doesn't "twist", it "yaws".
2:13 this does NOT have a thrust vectoring nozzle, unless it moved within the limits of that fixed nozzle, which is going to limit its effectiveness. Probably more for stability control that maneuvering.
8:10 the Su-57 does Not have canards. those are more akin to leading edge flaps than canards. They don't do anything that a canard does.
1. This is missing a horizontal tail as well, and that does pitch and roll.
2. It does have a movable nozzle. Google it
3. I said its like a canard on the su57
@@PaulStewartAviation
"1. This is missing a horizontal tail as well, and that does pitch and roll."
Wrong, it has canards and wings (elevons) like any other canard, delta, or flying wing design. The vertical tail does not control pitch nor roll. It can assist with them via fly-by-wire depending upon teh final shape and orientation. But lacking a vertical tail at its core is SOLELY about yaw stability and control. You can do a Y or V tail configuration and combine features, but the vertical component of the structure exists for yaw stability. There are other ways to control yaw stability without a vertical tail (the same way birds do it for example). The vertical tail on an F-16, F-15, Typhoon, P-51, etc. does not control pitch nor roll, they control YAW. This is aircraft design and control 101 stuff.
"2. It does have a movable nozzle. Google it"
I know it says it has a movable nozzle, but all pictures, video, and actual aircraft show a FIXED nozzle (look at your own footage). If the nozzle were inside the fuselage, then its range of motion is Severely limited by the external features. Which is why it must be about stability rather than maneuvering.
"3. I said its like a canard on the su57"
Except that it's literally NOTHING like a canard. Do some proper research into aerospace engineering and aerodynamics and learn what you're talking about. These two features couldn't be more different from one another. You might as well call a hydraulic cylinder a wing if you try to make that comparison.
Why does our 6th gen look like a Russian 5th gen?
The Su-57? It's nothing more than a technology demonstrator (of a stealthy design vastly superior to the decades older F-22)
Weird you guys think you can make a 6th generation when all your 5th gen failed and don't even get used in real combat (no, being covered by real fighters while on fake bombing runs is not real combat) oh, except a chinese balloon, which the pilots had to explain was actually hard to shoot down...😂
Cool story bro
@@PaulStewartAviation which part do you think is wrong? None of your 5th get used except for airshows...
@PaulStewartAviation have the f 35's ever been deployed east against Russia ever since the black sea incident with turkey amd some s 300's? No? Weird...have any f 22's ever been deployed east or anywhere not an airshow? No? Weird...how many f 35's have crashed in the last 18 months? 5? Holy sh*t what a great sounding 100 million "fighter with 100 losses overall and no kills meaning it has over a billion in losses with zero kills. 😳 cool facts bro...
Whatever comes out, things are moving way faster than ever before due to the digitization of the development process (oh, and distant threats from near peer adversaries). That combined with 3D printing/materials, it's going to be a major leap due to the advances with adaptive cycle engines, and ramjet (Hermeus) and scramjets. Although, when will ever see any of this because the NGAD, F/A-XX, and SR-72, all do not have to be disclosed to the public, unlike the B-21..... sucks for us aerospace enthusiasts, hahaha
Right? The b-21 is cool and all but come on, they could at least show off a little of the crazy stuff. I just can't wait to find out more about the sr-72.