Turgon, King Of Gondolin | Tolkien Explained
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- Turgon, son of Fingolfin, was the founder and king of Gondolin. For a time, he would be the High King of the Noldor, before the fall of his realm.
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Turgon, Idril, and Maeglin together - Catherine Karina Chmiel
turgon - alystraea art
turgon fall gondolin - YidanYuan
Turgon at Fingolfin's Cairn - Ted Nasmith
Fingon & Aredhel - Jenny Dolfen
House of Fingolfin - YidanYuan
Turukano and Elenwe - Marya Filatova
tuor & idril - Jenny Dolfen
feanor - Bella Bergolts
The Oath of Feanor - Antti Autio
drawing of the sword - Jenny Dolfen
fingon the valiant - Sara Morello
Mandos - Ralph Damiani
elven sketch - mellorianj
fingon - Jenny Dolfen
Burning of the Ships - Ted Nasmith
helcaraxe, death of elenwe - Sara Morello
Grinding Ice - Marya Filatova
helcaraxe, death of elenwe - Sara Morello
fingon - Bella Bergolts
The Coming of Fingolfin - Jenny Dolfen
Vinyamar - Matěj Čadil
Finrod Turgon at the Meres of Twilight - Peet
Ulmo - Ralph Damiani
Nargothrond - Alan Lee
The Rage of Ulmo - Ralph Damiani
Escape From Gondolin - Peet
King Turgon - Marya Filatova
The Siege of Angband - John Howe
Victorious Return - Fingolfin and Fingon - Jenny Dolfen
Turgon - Marya Filatova
Tuor to Gondolin - YidanYuan
turgon's armour - Matej Cadil
Tuor meeting Ulmo - Šárka Škorpíková
He Beheld a Vision of Gondolin Amid the Snow - Ted Nasmith
Gondolin - Alan Lee
the white tree - aegeri
The Two Trees - Kinko White
half-noldor, aredhel and maeglin return - Sara Morello
Aredhel - Jenny Dolfen
Gondolin - alystraea
Gondolin - alystraea
Fingolfin's Challenge to Morgoth - Pete Amachree
fingolfin vs morgoth - mattleese87
now down there swooped Thorondor the King of Eagles, stooped - Alan Lee
Fingon - YidanYuan
Húrin and Huor are Carried to Gondolin - Alan Lee
Return of Hurin and Huor - Peet
eagle's nest - aegeri
Gwaihir the Eagle - Ted Nasmith
Húrin on Horseback - Alan Lee
Aure Entuluva - Jenny Dolfen
Fingon and Gothmog - Ted Nasmith
Gwindor's Charge - Peter Xavier Price
Day Shall Come Again - Abe Papakhian
The Words of Húrin and Morgoth - Alan Lee
Death of Fingon - YidanYuan
Amroth and Nimrodel - Alan Lee
Tuor and Voronwe Search for the City of Gondolin - Kip Rasmussen
tuor coming to vinyamar - Matej Cadil
Tuor at Vinyamar - Ted Nasmith
Turgon Receives Tuor and Voronwe - Ted Nasmith
turgon, idril and maeglin - Bella Bergolts
gondolin - David Greset
Furry, feathered, hoofed, Thorondor - Marya Filatova
tuor & idril - Jenny Dolfen
Idril, Tuor, Maeglin - Catherine Karina Chmiel
maeglin, lomion, and the black sword, evil in arda - Sara Morello
maeglin - anotherstranger_me
morgoth and maeglin - anotherstranger_me
Morgoth's Force before Gondolin - John Howe
The Fall of Gondolin - Aronja Art
Tuor and Maeglin - anotherstranger_me
the fall of gondolin, glorfindel vs balrog - mellorianj
Turgon, King of Gondolin - Natalie Chen
Flight of the Doomed - Ted Nasmith
Earendil - alystraea
Earendil vs Ancalagon - Daniel Dougherty
star of earendil - Matej Cadil
earendil and elwing - aegeri
Tuor Reaches the Hidden City of Gondolin - Ted Nasmith
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Hey Matt! Pls put a video on the forodwaith /dwarves of the east pls respond to this!! :-) thank you!
Btw happy Tolkien reading day everyone!
Happy Tolkien Reading Day! Thank you for making me fall in love with his stories again and again, with your every post.
Hi can you please make a video on the picture that out about the peter jackson 2024 silmarillion movie
I love the story of Gondolin so much, it's my favorite of all of Tolkien's tales. I wish to Eru he had completed the final version of Tuor and the Fall of Gondolin.
Gondolin is also my favorite of the ancient elven cities.
@@irighterotica same!
Yep, Gondolin is the best.
@@irighterotica Yes, it's so perfect, hidden nestled in a picture-esk valley with fertile soil, surrounded by high peaks and Great Eagles. It screams of Elven Nobility.
Of all the fallen realms of the first age and their kings, it's Turgon and Gondolin I have the most pity for because their fall was caused by the betrayal of one horny elf.
I think that Gondolin was doomed even if Maeglin hadn't betrayed them. Morgoth already knew the region where Gondolin was hidden and he would eventually find a way to reach it.
@@lisboah yes. That happend when Hurin was relesead by Morgoth. He yelled Turgon s name at the mountains of the nearby Gondolin...and Morgoth knew then..."Húrin cried out against Turgon, thus inadvertently revealing the general location of Gondolin to Morgoth's spies, and then left."
Maeglin certainly deserves criticism - perhaps even damnation - but I can't help but have some sympathy for him. He had a childhood that almost guaranteed a troubled psyche, he was under pressure to inherit the leadership of the Noldor for which he was clearly not suited, he had to contend with the fact that Tuor - a member of (let's be honest) an inferior species - was universally loved in Maeglin's own city, etc. Yes, a person of better character could have overcome that and thrived, but his life was, nevertheless, far from idyllic.
@@nooneinparticular1491 He was under the effect of the Doom of the Noldor, even though he was born afterwards; he was the result of a very twisted marriage; his father killed his mother in front of him; his father cursed him before dying; th only woman he ever loved never loved him back and even distrusted him because of his father's curse, etc. Maeglin might have been doomed from the moment he was born.
Also, it's weird that the Elves find love between cousins abhorrent, but see no problem in elves marrying members of other species.
@@lisboah The Gondolindrim might have considered the particular case of Idril + Tuor to be a unique exception. Tuor was raised by elves, and therefore was fluent in their language and culture, he was the chosen messenger of Ulmo, he was the son of an aristocrat (of sorts) who sacrificed his life to allow the Gondolindrim to escape from a catastrophic, lost battle with their lives, etc. He would probably have seemed to them less of a mortal man, and more of an elf with man-traits (for lack of a better term).
'of mighty kings in Nargorthron and Gondolin who now beyond'
When the dwarfs find your city so awesome that they reference it in the song about their great king, you know you did something well
If Turgon had not been pridefully stubborn by ignoring the warnings of Ulmo he would have saved himself and his people so much death and loss. He truly did embody the saying: Pride goeth before a fall. But Turgon and the Hidden Kingdom of Gondolin story have always been so fascinating.
In Turgon's defense, he did send ships to the West to ask for aid more than once. And the Valar pretty much sank all of them. So it's kind of understandable why Turgon eventually stopped believing that the Valar would come to aid them against Morgoth.
Keep it in mind that Valar only decided to aid because Earendil came to the West while carrying a Silmarill. And by that time Beleriand was already under Morgoth's control.
@@lisboah Yeah that is true. I love Turgon, just wish he and the Gondolindrim had vacated the kingdom before Maeglin's treachery. Ulmo knew it was just a matter of time before the hidden kingdom would be found by Morgoth. Turgon's pride would just not allow him to abandon Gondolin.
@@lisboah Regardless of one's opinion on it, that was what the Valar said they would do in the Doom of Mandos.
@@istari0 Yep it was prophesied by Mandos.
Not just all Noldor were prophesized and cursed for their downfall, but as Fingolfin's son / line, he had embodied his father's fate. His father died to fight Morgoth to buy some times for his people, while Turgon defended the city against Morgoth.
Tolkien wrote the first version of this story while recovering from sickness just before the Somme campaign. Ironically the illness probably saved his life. The battle was long, bloody, and utterly indecisive. It was also the first battle to use in mass tanks and aircraft. One sees a little if that in the fall of Gondolin.
I wonder how many ppl he went into battle with/against that ended up reading his book. Absolutely awesome info by the way.
Can never hear this story too many times! The re-telling makes the characters & action “pop” off the pages!! 😊
I'm glad, always wanted to know about Gondolin more
Actually it is Hurin who upon his release by Morgoth uncovers the location of Gondolin. He trys to find Gondolin but fails and in his frustration curses at his former rescuers. Unfortunately, Morgoth sends his spies after him to monitor his travels and that is when he is given an approximate location. After that, he focuses his efforts on that region and not soon after he captures Maegllin.
Happy Tolkien Reading Day Matt! 🧙♂🎉
I'm going to watch this in a second, just need to make some tea first, haha 😁
What is Tolkien day?
@@stargazer467 it's Tolkien Reading Day, it is the day that the "Tolkien fans" agreed on Reading some of the chapters in any of the books written by JRR Tolkien. 25 March, it is the day in his stories when Sauron was finally defeated.
Little theory/question of mine. Do you think Thranduil‘s line in The Hobbit, where he says: “Do not talk to me of dragon fire I know it is wrath and ruin! I have faced the greats opens of the North.” could be a reference to him, possibly fighting in the war of wrath?
According to the One Ring To Rule Them All wiki, Thranduil was born in the 1st Age and lived in Doriath at that time, so he probably did see action and dragons in that war.
@@rocketraccoon1976 that’s why I was asking!
Contrast Turgon's reaction to Tuor with Thingol's reaction to Beren. Remarkable.
Fantastic story crafting. Not Tolkien’s (I mean, his is a given) but yours. I know what is going to happen, and yet you stir in me the emotions as if it were all new. Well done.
Awesome video once again reminding me why the stories of The Silmarillion are so utterly beautiful to dive into.
As a geographer, I have to say that a kingdom consisting of one city, which has a hinterland of one isolated valley, and has no diplomatic or economic connections with any other kingdom, cannot possibly be the greatest kingdom in Middle Earth. At least Doriath, though cut off from other kingdoms by the Girdle of Melian, had extensive territories supporting it. Nargothrond had an even larger hinterland, and was not artificially cut off from the rest of Beleriand and its resources. I really don’t see how Gondolin in its tiny valley could have supported itself, much less been fabulously wealthy.
I've heard and read these stories so many times yet each of your videos makes them exciting and fresh. Thank you for casting such a joyful light on Tolkien's works.
Oh my god just today I was thinking Id love a video about turgon and you actually posted it? Love you❤
Nerd of the rings: He is the greatest king and founder of arguably the greatest kingdom of elves to ever exist.
Some Vanyar probably: In middle earth.
I subscribed to your channel a few weeks ago and seriously can’t get enough. I’ve read many of Tolkien’s works, but not all, or most.
Mostly watched your 1+ year old videos as they were recommended; didn’t realize you were still currently creating and uploading these! Your compilation and narration of Tolkien is much appreciated…🤝🏻🤘🏻🐉 🔥
Thanks so much! Welcome to the channel! Many vids already made and many more on the way. 😁
Arrogance. The most dangerous thing. Nothing can bring ruin like arrogance can.
Not gonna lie, of all the elven realms gondolin would definitely be the one I'd most love to see!❤
Other Turgon's known deeds was his sword. Glamdring. While he's dead long ago, his sword still serve the good and banish the evil by his new user, Gandalf
Awesome video! One of my favorite stories. I loved the house of the hammer of wrath description in the books.
My favourite House of the Gondolinthlim is House of the Golden Flower or House of the Fountain, but it doesn't lessen bravery of warriors of the House of Hammer of wrath, who gave hope to all free people of Middle-Earth, when they killed balrogs.
Reading The Fall of Gondolin right now. Timing couldn’t have been better ✨
We need a Gondolin video!
Happy Tolkien Reading Day!
And thank you for this wonderful episode on the history of Arda!
6:55 - Morgoth had Balrogs though, they could fly. 😅
That's the P.J. depictions of a Balrog, in Tolkiens writings he described them to be, "man-like, though huge, and could appear cloaked in shadow as an impenetrable darkness, or burst into a fiery form that streamed flame".
@@sunflowernamedfernI was being sarcastic. 😂 It is actually good evidence that Balrogs can't fly because Morgoth would have probably found Gondolin much sooner.
@@TolkienAnswersand Balrogs have a history of falling from high places during battles.
these First Age stories i like much more than all others. Dont get me wrong, i love the LOTR and TH, but The First /age is just so much more tragic and somber and everything just seems grander: Thurin being toyed with by the curse and then there is the doom of Mandos and the fate of the Noldor, warnings of Ulmo. Curses, oaths and forces beyond children of Illuvatar.i love the dark vibe
Happy Tolkien Reading Day my friend, it is such a pleasure to see this video, love the story of Gondolin! As always the visuals in your videos are top notch!
Tales of the First Age always get me emotional..... Especially Gondolin ❤
I'd just like to say, I stumbled across your channel looking for map-related lore content and I've been binging your videos for a week straight! You really do an incredible job of presenting engaging visuals with great storytelling. Looking forward to whatever you produce next 😊
I was just reading about him last week!
Nice
So close to 1 million subs!!! I’ll be here for it🎉
Recently got my gf into LoTR haha. I attribute that to you!
I was literally just yesterday wanting a Turgon video. Love your work man!
I've been waiting for this one! Thanks!
at 5:11 you placed Finrod's portrait instead of Fingon 😅 but the video is awesome 🥰
Thanks for exploring with us!
Thank you so much for doing this video and keep up the good work!
Great video, Turgon and Gondolin story is a masterpiece!
Happy Tolkien Reading Day!! 📚
Sweet video Matt! I love all of the Gondolin stuff, as Gondolin is my jam! 🤘
I don't know why exactly, but stories of Tuor and now Turgon are my absolute favourites of @NerdoftheRings . Already seen them both at least 10 times. Thank you so much for bringing the missing details of all of Arda in a such great form!
Love your videos, man. Cheers!
Thank you so much for these videos, you rock! Hard!
This is so epic!! Great content as always! 😁
Happy Tolkien Reading Day, NotR! Awesome video as always, and a fitting topic!
I’m in the middle of The Fall Of Gondolin so I appreciate the timing 😊 happy Tolkien day
Thank you for this, I see Gondolin mentioned or briefly included in content for many years but always wanted to know more as someone who has only seen the Movies and not read the Books.
No wonder the Tolkien estate has rights to the Silmarillion etc. It’s so in depth it. If it were an HBO show, it would put Game of Thrones flat on it face.
Happy Tolkien Reading Day! Loved the Video!
"Great is the fall of Gondolin!" Turgon, king of Gondolin, High king of Noldor in The Fall of Gondolin.
Great video, I was waiting for a mention of glamdring, but I suppose that could be a video on its own.
Love this, Great history of King Turgon of Gondolin🥰
I really like this tale. It is one of my favourites.
Amazing.... ❤️
I love middle earth. This middle earth universe is one of the best and successful book serieses ever. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos.
During his time in Valinor, the feeling that Melkor will end up with Turgon every time he meets Turgon is related to Huor's vision.
great video! what is the name of the song that starts at 10:48?
Once again a great video. Love the eleven Kings and Lords
The story of Gondolin is so epic because it contains some of the greatest characters of middle earth with the most important destinies.. Hurin the greatest warrior of men to ever exist and Earendil the Evening Star and slayer of the greatest dragon to ever exist
We deserve a movie (done by those who truly respect and love Tolkien’s work) about the rise and fall of Gondolin.
I hope not. Hopefully the Estate sticks by its guns and never allows the posthumous publications to be adapted.
Well done
His story is both epic and tragic but that's the way he was known as a legend
Is this channel your main job? It looks like you put so much thought, creativity and effort into every aspect of it.
Good one. Loved it ❤
Please explain thingol next
What I think more incredible is the fact that most of the people who watch Lotr are eager to have more of the movie but do not dive into Tolkien literature… i’m just a noob (finished all of the “not academic” books) but so fascinated with all the epic tales of all characters that I keep seeing these videos…
I’ve read also all A Song of ice and fire and, beside the rivalry that has between the fans of each of series, I relate them as equally magnificent literature of human history
I would sometimes mistook for Fingolfin for Fingon for a short name to be called by his friends or his siblings when I realize it was his Fingolfin's son's name
One of the greats for sure!
I’ve always wondered why the winged dragons couldn’t find Gondolin… I’ll appreciate any insight on that topic, especially when you say that Morgoth didn’t have any forces capable of flight.
The winged dragons did not appear until the War of Wrath, which was after the Fall of Gondolin.
I do love the way Tolkien embedded the Half-Elven and their bloodlines as most of the greatest heroes throughout the ages. Although so much is made of “high” blooded peoples, it is the mix of the races that seem to always win the greatest of victories. When you think about the context of ideas like that during the contemporary times of the ‘10s through the ‘40s that he built his world, it’s so far ahead of its time.
its intresting to note that during their time in Valinor, Morgoth always felt inscure about Turgon. That thought even hunted Morgoth more when Turgon escaped the war
Yooo, great video man! Could you do one about the great halls of men/ the afterlife for most men
I want to see either an animated version of this tale or a movie.. it be sweet
Can you make a video of the lives of Angrod and Aegnor?
If silmarilion is made into a movie. Turgon should be protoganist
Yeah a Fall of Gondolin movie would be amazing. If they ever get the rights.
Goddamn I love these videos. I’m taking my daughter to the park while listening to this 👌🏻👌🏻
well done
Not sure why but I seem to think that Orcrist and Glamdring originate from the smiths of Gondolin and that Glamdring was Turgon's word. Between the fall of Gondolin and The Hobbit the sword ended up in a troll hoard.
Man… You know how to take us out of our world,and feel like we live in the moment With those who fought and gave their lives…
Turgon might be one of my fav elf kings besides Thingol and Fingolfin!
Happy Tolkien Reading Day my friend!
You could do a whole video on the gates alone. This city was brilliant and by far the best in all Tolkien lore
Can you do a compilation of all your videos into 9 hour segments so I can literally listen the entire time I'm at work?
Coud you do an video about Maeglin son of EOL
Is it true that the whole fade of middle earth was based simply on luck, that Thorin and the others came on the night of the midsummer moon, so that elrond could read the card? If the erived only one day later the while Saga would end there. Nonone could read the card than everybody goes back and most important Bilbo would never find the Ring, so Gollum would optain it and most likely at one day He will lose it and an ork will find it. What am I missing?
Is there a possibility that there will be a video about the stone giants, appearing in the Unexpected Journey? There is almost no information about it in Tolkiens works, and I am curious about them
Im sorry. I love your videos. Not sure if you have the same opinion, but it feels like your energy level in you previous videos was higher than it is nowdays.
Perhaps he lost some confidence when he sold his soul for Amazon money?
@@krisf4969 I'm super curious as to how much money he's getting from Amazon. Do you know? For real ?!
I legit am curious.
However, this needs to be said in NOTR defense: he does the OPPOSITE of what ROP does. He promotes LORE! He shows maps with dates and crap. And his ROP review went down after S1 completion. He points out many problems with the show.
So I think he still has his Tolkien-card.
"Great shall be the victory of the Noldor"
Finally some gondolin backstory
Oh my! at the Towers! I kinda regard Bag End, Underhill, yet another.
Can you do a video on Ecthelion of the fountain
Yeah I am reading the book now and I'm at the part where I have read through the Fall of Gondolin now. I hope very much that the War of Rohirrim movie is a success and that it inspires that film studio to create more stand-alone stories in LOTR and one of them being the Fall of Gondolin.
You would have a good plot with Tuor's journey to finding Gondolin, get a deeper dive into the 12 houses of Gondolin, the sheer power and size of Morgoth's armies during this time in Middle Earth, and you would get even more insane action sequences than you saw in Peter Jackson's films (Hint: Lord Ecthelion's achievements in this battle particularly).
Nice, posted 20 seconds ago
14 minutes late to the party.
39minutes but feeling equally blessed
1 hour for me.
2 hours for me
Well yes... if it was uploaded and then 20 seconds later you see it then yes it would have been posted 20 seconds ago?
My favorite kingdom!
great
I so much would have liked to see among the art represnting Turgon, Blind Guardian's "Mirror Mirror" -single cover.
The saddest part of all this is: Hurin and the house of hador made a last stand in order to protect turgon and the survivors so they could get to gondolin because as long as gondolin stands strong Morgoth would know fear. He defies Morgoth and in return morgoth cusrses his family and makes him watch and listen to all the misfortunes of his family and all of this cause he tried to protect gondolin just to be the one indirectly responsible for its fall many years later.
Do a video on talion from the shadow games eventhou it is not canon
Niceee!!!
I knew Turgon's wife didn't survive the crossing of the Helcaraxe but i didn't know that about her and Idril falling in the water. So tragic...