Great job bringing us up to date on 4014! I will bring my new grandson out from Connecticut when she's ready to roll! He'll be about 5 or so - just right timing! Keep up the good work- Bardo
Ha ha great video nick glad to see my phone got publicity with 3985. Now we remember the good times from when you rumored 4014 until now. I also chatted with Ed and we had a fun talk as well
Great Vid, Thanks for uploading! You know restoration project comes at a very good time with all the negative image we have been getting lately in America, this is such an iconic symbol of who we really are even amongst all the international trading and manufacturing going on.
well I must have watched every big boy video on youtube....and every challenger one aswell.....your vids will be part of history, I only hope I get the chance to get to the states to see one first hand. Cheers and thankyou from Perth Australia..
I do appreciate that. It will be interesting to see the differing states of the Big Boy in the coming years compared to it's current "Museum Fresh" condition. There is definitely enough good video on youtube now to compile the entire move of Big Boy.
Its wonderful to see him at Home again after so long Time. Oh Boy,i wish he can talk. What wonderful Storys he Can Tell us? I hope he is coming Back under Steam so fast as possible. Many,many Greetings to all that People what working at The Big Boy.
It's great to see a Big Boy back in the shops in Cheyenne, can't wait to see her fired up and in steam again (maybe I'll be lucky enough to join the program and work on 'er myself). At the same time, I can't help but have the sneaking suspicion that 3985 is going to mothballed and put on static display somewhere to compensate for the increased costs of a Big Boy on the roster. Might just be me being paranoid, though, for it'd be neat to see all three engines (844, 4014, 3985) in steam together someday.
I just know that right now the 3985 is classified as dead storage, and there is still work it needs, boiler tear down and inspection etc.. I've heard a lot of stuff back and forth on this about the 3985. SteamUP did a video of his tour of the roundhouse which he was able to get some information about the 3985. The 844 is down for probably this whole year, and the 6936 is also broke down last I saw anyway so they have their hands full with everything that is for sure.
Along with the boiler issues on 3985 I was told by a man at the Museum of transportation in St Louis that 3985 has some microscopic cracks in its siderods. There is not another example of a Challenger to rob parts off so they would have to be new forgings. He was working on a N&W articulated that they are getting ready to move to the Virginia Museum of Transportation that was recalled.
Hard to believe in 1979 I began working down in the yards on the 8444 and 3985 with Francis McCormick and Jim Nase, as an apprentice and set-up machinist in the Round House and drop pit, and Norm was always running somewhere. Benzel, Whitey, Petey, and Lucky were some of the guys that worked there with Dale Cruz and Timmy Espinoza. George Hansen was day foreman of the Engine House, years back. Bob Marquart was the head of the Mechanical Department, then. Lots of "tired iron" some called it.
I am glad that Ed sees the potential 4014 offers to the program, and yes the crew made alot of people happy lol. I would have loved to go to Cheyenne for Depot Days. Looks like you had a blast!
It was fun. I was beat though after about 5 hours of walking around, and waiting for the trolly and just the insane amount of people to try and look out for. But it was worth it. That's kind of why I did all of these depot days videos, just to try and let people experience it to a point that couldn't go.
Just found out today that the Union Pacific steam crew in their search for a big boy seriously considered the4017,but it was turned down by the National Railway Museum in Green Bay Wisconsin because The museum didn't want to give it up. It is in such good condition it looks like all it needs is the head of steam and it would be ready to go.
Surely this cannot be the workshop in which they will be restored?Or is this space merely for display purposes for there is simply no room around the locos for working.Thank you for the clip.Living far away in GB I am,nevertheless,interested in the fate of these most magnificent of all steam engines.
This is a good observation because my thoughts during this visit were much the same as they just do not have the room to store all of their fleet, much less to a full tear down and rebuilt of the Big Boy in that space. They do not have any other shop they do the work in. I guess it all depends on how much really needs to be replaced. It seems to me UP needs to start thinking about expanding the Steam Shop though or build another building to house their "dead storage" locomotives which are currently in the Roundhouse.
squarerig This was just an inspection pit in a small building to have the public review the engine. It will be torn down in a backshop with overhead cranes, etc, I'm sure.
Nick, great videos. I subscribed. Its great to see the 4014 up so close...have they officially begun restoration efforts yet? Obviously, with all the euphoria surrounding 4014, I certainly hope they will not forget about 3985. As excited as I am to see 4014 rule the rails again, there is something very special about 3985.
When I was there, i did hear mention that they had started looking over the blueprints of Big Boy. I would think the boys are itchin' to start though. I read a lot of comments on the 3985, and SteamUP caught one of the steam crew talking about the status of 3985. I keep reading anywhere from 3-15 year restoration time frame after the Big Boy is finished
I would give vital parts of my anatomy to be able to work on it's restoration and ride on it during it's operation . Thanks for posting . Kindest Regards Terry
Ren here, For more videos on the 4014 go to my channel, from the museum to getting on the mainline. Here in Pomona Ca. at the Fairplex. And get a real up close to the BIG BOY. Hey Ed we still have that great weather, so come on by and bring the BIG BOY, lol
***** The Thirty Nine Eighty Five (3985) is NOT "still running"... it is classified "Dead Storage" (UPRR classification)... and "deadlined" by the FRA and will not be going Anywhere... without a whole new Boiler... a Major project & expense. Will we ever see it polish the rails again ???..... Who knows at this point in time for absolute sure.... Nothing is for "sure" anymore, considering the current "state of affairs" in our country... and the world. Heck... the Eight Forty Four (844) will be up for it's FRA mandated 15 year full blown inspection in the not too distant future again, as well... and the boiler on the 877 is not "servicable" (as a replacement, should the 844 need it.. from what I was told, anyway).... and quite a number of "spare" parts have already been cannibalized for use on the 844... mechanical parts eventually Do get to the end of their servicable "life"... so, Who knows how things will shake out in the end.
Nick, I hope you don't mind. I embedded your video over on TrainBoard.com . I understand visitors can see the threads and you'd be welcome to check it out. One of your videos I embedded prior to this one, is now marked private. It to was a great resource for the railfans on TrainBoard. Thanks for posting here on You Tube and keep the video's coming.
That's cool. I have no problem just brings more attention to my channel :) I blocked the others because i felt they didn't really matter anymore. Let me know what the other one was and I will reopen it. Thanks
Actually I find him quite funny. He posts on a lot of other videos. He did share my video so I feel it would be rude but I find his comment hilarious personally. He isn't being a typical POS troll I see on youtube. But I am watching him none the less....
Nick White He also in the past seemed to have shared my channel with his classic "Junk the steam locos", which led me to believe he was trying to frame me in some way. =P
***** I just find him funny, I also find it funny how many people are replaying to his comments also lol. If he had come to my videos and said " Steam locomotives are the biggest piece of shit that should've all be scrapped and videos like this are a waste of youtube" something like that, then I would have banned him the second I saw it...
Ben Deutschman They haven't really, most work on 4014 & 3985 has been put on hold to get 844 overhauled & running by the end of 2015 as well as renovations & upgrades to the steam shops themselves to better handle these massive engines.
Class Ye locomotive 2201 (Еa-2201). This was built by Baldwin in the USA in 1944 as part of the lend lease programme. They were often used in Siberia and the Far East - www youtube com/watch?v=NA7cedN6ew0 (Американский ленд-лизовский паровоз серии Еа-2201)
I was actually shocked Ed has watched enough of my videos to know what my layout even looks like! haha That was a pretty funny conversation. I really wanted to chat more with him but there were so many people there, and I didn't want to monopolize his time. But it was really nice he came over and said hi. I thought I could just sneak in without him seeing me but NOPE lol
The plans ARE to convert it to run on No. 5 oil... same as the 3985, and the 844... that is, IF... the restoration was to go "full term". Don't misunderstand me, I want to see All Three of them running again... and ALL the other viable steamers "out there" as well, However...... My "educated guess" says "it was a nice idea, and the move to Cheyenne was a nice distraction to a portion of the US population, & even globally... just like all the different sports venues that the sheeple sit in front of the "boob tube" and occupy their time with.... while this country is being set up for "the take down"... and it IS.... watch what happens early in 2015... and the ensuing nightmare from there, on.
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Well, the "take down" didn't happen...What the HELL were YOU refering to 2 stroke diesel power?
This piece of garbage & all other steam locomotives should have been cut apart & melted down 70 years ago. It is not too late! Then there are all those parts upon these machines which would quickly sell for CASH on the black market! ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTIONS ARE EVER ASKED ABOUT WHERE THE PARTS MAY HAVE COME FROM, WHEN OR HOW THEY WERE ACQUIRED! Lucrative sums of CASH paid! The salvation for a financially desperate family! Junk all the remaining steam locomotives! Cut them apart & melt them down!
***** It will be hit by financially desperate people who will haul off parts for CASH sales on the black market. It will be a long, long, long time before they ever find those parts again. Sounds like it will end up junk, scrapped out, cut apart & melted down. That sounds so good!
Cockroach Desperate people can find many other ways to make money. I would be aware of anything that had to do with desperate people selling locomotive parts. Union Pacific keep in mind, is a major money making corporation. So you would have no power at all to steal a giant locomotive from them, it is simply un-doable. (If that is even a word) Sounds pretty false to me.
***** True, desperate people COULD find other ways to earn money, but the easiest & quickest is to acquire & sell the parts of steam locomotives & sell them for lucrative sums of CASH on the black market. Union Pacific may be a big company, but even they have their weaknesses. It is not the steam locomotive in entirety which would be stolen, it is the parts which people want. Particularly collectors who do not have the space to display or hide an entire steam locomotive, it would be something for their den. Like the engineer's instruments or boiler water sight glasses, or the headlight or whistle or bell or the builders plate. There are many other "goodies" to be had. Sounds pretty true to me. Junk all the remaining steam locomotives! Cut them apart & melt them down.
It's great to see a Big Boy back in the shops in Cheyenne, can't wait to see her fired up and in steam again (maybe I'll be lucky enough to join the program and work on 'er myself). At the same time, I can't help but have the sneaking suspicion that 3985 is going to mothballed and put on static display somewhere to compensate for the increased costs of a Big Boy on the roster. Might just be me being paranoid, though, for it'd be neat to see all three engines (844, 4014, 3985) in steam together someday.
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Great job bringing us up to date on 4014! I will bring my new grandson out from Connecticut when she's ready to roll! He'll be about 5 or so - just right timing!
Keep up the good work-
Bardo
Ed is a great guy,, I got to speak with him at 1 in the morning in SLC. lol Good times!
I used to play on that locomotive as little kid when it was at the fairgrounds, I knew one day it would breathe fire again..
Looks like California weather -and carers did her proud! Excellent vid for detail inspection! Thank you. (Across the pond)
thanks, the wife and I are older and don't get around like we did before, so we appreciate the good look. thanks again.
Nice video. It's great seeing the 4014 back "home" again.
I used to see this guy at the fair every year and climbed in the cab a couple of times. I can't wait to see him fully functional.
Ha ha great video nick glad to see my phone got publicity with 3985. Now we remember the good times from when you rumored 4014 until now. I also chatted with Ed and we had a fun talk as well
Ed seems like a pretty cool guy. Did he know you were on youtube also?
No
Great Vid, Thanks for uploading!
You know restoration project comes at a very good time with all the negative image we have been getting lately in America, this is such an iconic symbol of who we really are even amongst all the international trading and manufacturing going on.
I am so glad that the UP is undertaking the restoration of this Big Boy, only the UP would take on a project of this magnitude.
well I must have watched every big boy video on youtube....and every challenger one aswell.....your vids will be part of history, I only hope I get the chance to get to the states to see one first hand. Cheers and thankyou from Perth Australia..
I do appreciate that. It will be interesting to see the differing states of the Big Boy in the coming years compared to it's current "Museum Fresh" condition. There is definitely enough good video on youtube now to compile the entire move of Big Boy.
If you have not seen it yet, here is the latest from the Steam Shop in Cheyenne! The UP 4014 Project - August 7, 2014
Its wonderful to see him at Home again after so long Time. Oh Boy,i wish he can talk. What wonderful Storys he Can Tell us? I hope he is coming Back under Steam so fast as possible.
Many,many Greetings to all that People what working at The Big Boy.
awesome.....I cant believe they are bringing a big boy back!!....that is the greatest way to go UP....I cant wait to see her run...
It's great to see a Big Boy back in the shops in Cheyenne, can't wait to see her fired up and in steam again (maybe I'll be lucky enough to join the program and work on 'er myself).
At the same time, I can't help but have the sneaking suspicion that 3985 is going to mothballed and put on static display somewhere to compensate for the increased costs of a Big Boy on the roster.
Might just be me being paranoid, though, for it'd be neat to see all three engines (844, 4014, 3985) in steam together someday.
I just know that right now the 3985 is classified as dead storage, and there is still work it needs, boiler tear down and inspection etc.. I've heard a lot of stuff back and forth on this about the 3985. SteamUP did a video of his tour of the roundhouse which he was able to get some information about the 3985. The 844 is down for probably this whole year, and the 6936 is also broke down last I saw anyway so they have their hands full with everything that is for sure.
Along with the boiler issues on 3985 I was told by a man at the Museum of transportation in St Louis that 3985 has some microscopic cracks in its siderods. There is not another example of a Challenger to rob parts off so they would have to be new forgings. He was working on a N&W articulated that they are getting ready to move to the Virginia Museum of Transportation that was recalled.
What a beauty and nice encounter.
Hard to believe in 1979 I began working down in the yards on the 8444 and 3985 with Francis McCormick and Jim Nase, as an apprentice and set-up machinist in the Round House and drop pit, and Norm was always running somewhere. Benzel, Whitey, Petey, and Lucky were some of the guys that worked there with Dale Cruz and Timmy Espinoza. George Hansen was day foreman of the Engine House, years back. Bob Marquart was the head of the Mechanical Department, then. Lots of "tired iron" some called it.
I am glad that Ed sees the potential 4014 offers to the program, and yes the crew made alot of people happy lol. I would have loved to go to Cheyenne for Depot Days. Looks like you had a blast!
It was fun. I was beat though after about 5 hours of walking around, and waiting for the trolly and just the insane amount of people to try and look out for. But it was worth it. That's kind of why I did all of these depot days videos, just to try and let people experience it to a point that couldn't go.
Just found out today that the Union Pacific steam crew in their search for a big boy seriously considered the4017,but it was turned down by the National Railway Museum in Green Bay Wisconsin because The museum didn't want to give it up. It is in such good condition it looks like all it needs is the head of steam and it would be ready to go.
I just love floor shots!
UP done good. I'm coming 5,000 miles to ride behind X4014 as soon as it's steaming again. Where can I buy an advance ticket?
Am so happy that UP decided to save one of the biggest steam locomotive's made
Surely this cannot be the workshop in which they will be restored?Or is this space merely for display purposes for there is simply no room around the locos for working.Thank you for the clip.Living far away in GB I am,nevertheless,interested in the fate of these most magnificent of all steam engines.
This is a good observation because my thoughts during this visit were much the same as they just do not have the room to store all of their fleet, much less to a full tear down and rebuilt of the Big Boy in that space. They do not have any other shop they do the work in. I guess it all depends on how much really needs to be replaced. It seems to me UP needs to start thinking about expanding the Steam Shop though or build another building to house their "dead storage" locomotives which are currently in the Roundhouse.
squarerig
This was just an inspection pit in a small building to have the public review the engine. It will be torn down in a backshop with overhead cranes, etc, I'm sure.
It would be awesome to see one of these run again!
Now if they could only acquire and restore a second one, a Big Boy double header would be a sight to see....!!
+fredfindl The whole point of the Big Boy was to avoid double heading. (But yes, it would.)
cannot wait to se this monster back in operation!
Nick, great videos. I subscribed. Its great to see the 4014 up so close...have they officially begun restoration efforts yet?
Obviously, with all the euphoria surrounding 4014, I certainly hope they will not forget about 3985. As excited as I am to see 4014 rule the rails again, there is something very special about 3985.
When I was there, i did hear mention that they had started looking over the blueprints of Big Boy. I would think the boys are itchin' to start though. I read a lot of comments on the 3985, and SteamUP caught one of the steam crew talking about the status of 3985. I keep reading anywhere from 3-15 year restoration time frame after the Big Boy is finished
3985 Caught fire in 1999. I keep wondering about 4018. I heard there's only 8 of these left out of 25.
keep up the good work.nice going guys. Post top
I would give vital parts of my anatomy to be able to work on it's restoration and ride on it during it's operation . Thanks for posting .
Kindest Regards
Terry
Welcome home Big boy 4014
I hope I live to see it run.
Ren here, For more videos on the 4014 go to my channel, from the museum to getting on the mainline. Here in Pomona Ca. at the Fairplex. And get a real up close to the BIG BOY. Hey Ed we still have that great weather, so come on by and bring the BIG BOY, lol
It's quite a shock the Cheyenne Union Pacific steam shop was completely rebuild so the steam crew can rebuild 4014
How long will it take to restore the big boy? Just wondering
that seems like a long time but I can hardly wait to see it run
***** At least, it can take up to 10 for some places, but UP has a bigger budget
ok
yup
*****
The Thirty Nine Eighty Five (3985) is NOT "still running"... it is classified "Dead Storage" (UPRR classification)... and "deadlined" by the FRA and will not be going Anywhere... without a whole new Boiler... a Major project & expense. Will we ever see it polish the rails again ???..... Who knows at this point in time for absolute sure.... Nothing is for "sure" anymore, considering the current "state of affairs" in our country... and the world.
Heck... the Eight Forty Four (844) will be up for it's FRA mandated 15 year full blown inspection in the not too distant future again, as well... and the boiler on the 877 is not "servicable" (as a replacement, should the 844 need it.. from what I was told, anyway).... and quite a number of "spare" parts have already been cannibalized for use on the 844... mechanical parts eventually Do get to the end of their servicable "life"... so, Who knows how things will shake out in the end.
Nick, I hope you don't mind. I embedded your video over on TrainBoard.com . I understand visitors can see the threads and you'd be welcome to check it out.
One of your videos I embedded prior to this one, is now marked private. It to was a great resource for the railfans on TrainBoard. Thanks for posting here on You Tube and keep the video's coming.
That's cool. I have no problem just brings more attention to my channel :) I blocked the others because i felt they didn't really matter anymore. Let me know what the other one was and I will reopen it. Thanks
Nick, I think you have some comments to remove here... 'The Roach' was busy... Remove his comments and block the troll...
Actually I find him quite funny. He posts on a lot of other videos. He did share my video so I feel it would be rude but I find his comment hilarious personally. He isn't being a typical POS troll I see on youtube. But I am watching him none the less....
His comments kinda kill the fun of every video... :/
I am not sure why he shared my video if he really believes what he says. IDK I understand what you are saying though.
Nick White He also in the past seemed to have shared my channel with his classic "Junk the steam locos", which led me to believe he was trying to frame me in some way. =P
*****
I just find him funny, I also find it funny how many people are replaying to his comments also lol. If he had come to my videos and said " Steam locomotives are the biggest piece of shit that should've all be scrapped and videos like this are a waste of youtube" something like that, then I would have banned him the second I saw it...
Why has U.P. gone silent on 4014?
Ben Deutschman
They haven't really, most work on 4014 & 3985 has been put on hold to get 844 overhauled & running by the end of 2015 as well as renovations & upgrades to the steam shops themselves to better handle these massive engines.
like your videos UP TRAINS 4014.,
When does the work begin on big boy?
I overheard someone mention they had already started by digging out the blue prints of Big Boy, but I don't know when the real work begins...
Class Ye locomotive 2201 (Еa-2201). This was built by Baldwin in the USA in 1944 as part of the lend lease programme. They were often used in Siberia and the Far East - www youtube com/watch?v=NA7cedN6ew0 (Американский ленд-лизовский паровоз серии Еа-2201)
What was the 844 doing there?
Nevermind, I noticed.It's getting the plumbing worked on, lol
what a beautiful piece of machinery ,, all 1.250 Million pounds of it
it will be wonderful to see this 70+ year old beast moving again
Great video Nick, good to see it inside a building and there 6 people who watch your video.....LOL!!!
Bob, at Longshadowsmodeltrees.com
I was actually shocked Ed has watched enough of my videos to know what my layout even looks like! haha That was a pretty funny conversation. I really wanted to chat more with him but there were so many people there, and I didn't want to monopolize his time. But it was really nice he came over and said hi. I thought I could just sneak in without him seeing me but NOPE lol
I hope they COAL fire it!!!.....JUST LIKE THE REAL DAYS.......COAL HAS THE POWER.....
Sorry, I think they're converting it to oil. On the bright side though, it's still an operating big boy!
The plans ARE to convert it to run on No. 5 oil... same as the 3985, and the 844... that is, IF... the restoration was to go "full term". Don't misunderstand me, I want to see All Three of them running again... and ALL the other viable steamers "out there" as well, However......
My "educated guess" says "it was a nice idea, and the move to Cheyenne was a nice distraction to a portion of the US population, & even globally... just like all the different sports venues that the sheeple sit in front of the "boob tube" and occupy their time with.... while this country is being set up for "the take down"... and it IS.... watch what happens early in 2015... and the ensuing nightmare from there, on.
Well, the "take down" didn't happen...What the HELL were YOU refering to 2 stroke diesel power?
Subscribed
I bet if they would have tried this thing would fire up and move on its own
no offense but this is taking forever.
Just put a new battery in and start it up.
Want to team up and scrap cockroach and his possessions
Ay everyone ban cockroch
This piece of garbage & all other steam locomotives should have been cut apart & melted down 70 years ago.
It is not too late!
Then there are all those parts upon these machines which would quickly sell for CASH on the black market! ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTIONS ARE EVER ASKED ABOUT WHERE THE PARTS MAY HAVE COME FROM, WHEN OR HOW THEY WERE ACQUIRED! Lucrative sums of CASH paid! The salvation for a financially desperate family!
Junk all the remaining steam locomotives! Cut them apart & melt them down!
You keep out of this, this locomotive will not be scrapped.
***** It will be hit by financially desperate people who will haul off parts for CASH sales on the black market. It will be a long, long, long time before they ever find those parts again. Sounds like it will end up junk, scrapped out, cut apart & melted down.
That sounds so good!
Cockroach Desperate people can find many other ways to make money. I would be aware of anything that had to do with desperate people selling locomotive parts.
Union Pacific keep in mind, is a major money making corporation. So you would have no power at all to steal a giant locomotive from them, it is simply un-doable. (If that is even a word)
Sounds pretty false to me.
***** True, desperate people COULD find other ways to earn money, but the easiest & quickest is to acquire & sell the parts of steam locomotives & sell them for lucrative sums of CASH on the black market.
Union Pacific may be a big company, but even they have their weaknesses. It is not the steam locomotive in entirety which would be stolen, it is the parts which people want. Particularly collectors who do not have the space to display or hide an entire steam locomotive, it would be something for their den. Like the engineer's instruments or boiler water sight glasses, or the headlight or whistle or bell or the builders plate. There are many other "goodies" to be had.
Sounds pretty true to me.
Junk all the remaining steam locomotives! Cut them apart & melt them down.
***** Sure I realize it. I am not worried!
Junk all the remaining steam locomotives! Cut them apart & melt them down.
It's great to see a Big Boy back in the shops in Cheyenne, can't wait to see her fired up and in steam again (maybe I'll be lucky enough to join the program and work on 'er myself).
At the same time, I can't help but have the sneaking suspicion that 3985 is going to mothballed and put on static display somewhere to compensate for the increased costs of a Big Boy on the roster.
Might just be me being paranoid, though, for it'd be neat to see all three engines (844, 4014, 3985) in steam together someday.