@@pop4783 something tells me a lot of privateers are going to get fill ins and be able to show there talent more and get more fans since there riding a half a million dollar bike instead of 15k bike
I think this is the first time in a while where the 250s is more intriguing. Most of the 450 field is gone, 250 has Cooper, vialle, shimoda, Deegan, hunter, and I'm sure there are a few I'm forgetting.
@@joao55mx32 Justin won the mx2 class at des nations last year and has been a title threat the last 2 years, saying that Vialle is much better is simply not true.
Who's we there boy , the fact that privateers choose them shows how good they are in pro competition, how much do really know about mx bikes , you seem a little naive.
Vohland kinda reminds me of Vuillemin, riding elbows down, lot of body movements and seats early in the corners. He looks fast. Hope he keeps it on two wheels.
@@tristenbailey3742 I bet outdoors won't be so bad on his arm. He won the title in 19' and took Osborne down to the final moto of his 450 outdoor rookie year. If he stays upright I bet he can win some.
Man I will be genuinely upset if Tomac retires. As an Aussie I was so fucking excited to see him show Jett the ropes. Would've been so cool. There is still some legends for him to learn from anyway.
Tom Vialle is fast and if he gets used to the format and tracks quickly he will be in the hunt for the championship. Hunter will be a contender also. Not sure about the American's.
You have JCoop who's always a contender, a healthy JMart who is also always a contender, Hampshire who's very fast, and also a lot of fast up and comers like Kitchen, DiFrancesco, Deegan they say has been going pretty fast on the outdoor track too, so you never know. Shimoda is not American, but he should be a major title threat as well.
I also think Americans look awesome on groomed tracks but it’s a lot different when the are rutted and brutal at the end of the 2nd race! They should be practicing at the end of the day when the track is nasty! Vialle and Hunter have ridden nightmare Belgium tracks so they have an advantage!!
Vialle has a chance at winning motos but I don't think he's a title contender. Shimoda is a stronger threat over vialle. Also Justin Cooper you left out, he's definitely a contender.
Vialle’s lower body always looks so stable. Also it never looks like he’s bearing too much weight on his pegs, he must squeeze his bike very hard with his knees and quads. Him and Hunter actually look very similar on the bike to me, with some minor variants. Vohland always looks fast and comfortable on the bike. But never can produce the laptimes i think he would. It always sounds like he’s in a gear too low and just isn’t good at carrying a high speed through corners. I know he has a big bmx backround, which contributes to his bike control looking so effortless most of the time. But it seems like he lack finesse in terms of his braking and throttle applications.
If Vialle isn't winning races and battling for the championship, what does that say about the last couple years of MX2 guys compared to the AMA 250 guys?
That it’s a completely different ball game in different country’s . Here in the states we have tracks that are made more for speed. I believe over seas it is definitely more technical.
@@bwagss5579, I understand, but guys like Reed, Roczen, and Musquin obviously did well in both. Do we just ignore that? I think Searle, Rattray, and Anstie got similar results in both as well. I don't think they're as night and day different as people try to claim. They are different, but I think they aren't as different as SX is to MX. I also don't think the talent is much different either. I think it comes down to eras and who the specific riders are at the time that determines the difference between AMA and MXGP.
@@jkell411 the only thing I will say is the overseas motocross is tougher. Vilapotto struggled overseas after he retired here. Ferandis has dominated as well over here and even though I’m a reed fan he won motocross when Stewart was hurt . He never beat stew or Ricky for a outdoor title.
@@bwagss5579, Villopoto won a race... And Ferrandis was battling for wins all the time over there. Reed was better in SX than MX. Either way, it's not comparing apples to oranges. I'm just trying to say they are closer than people say. The difference is very exaggerated.
Our tracks these days are wide open highways I wish we could slow them down a bit, and make them more technical. And I've personally thought for years that our amateur outdoor tracks don't need to be a mile long, I think smaller tracks maybe half as long would make for better racing, better for viewing, more fun to ride etc. a bunch of slow amateur guys circling a mile long track is not exactly fun to watch. Is it any wonder the sports not growing at the amateur level.
Mosiman needs some good starts and some confidence and he will do well. I only say confidence because of his misfortune in earlier seasons. The foreigners will be good outdoors. Hope for the 450 class to have as much potential battling. Jett on the 450 will be 🤌🏻 💯.
now that jett isn’t just gonna take off in 80% of the races the 250 class will be good and i’m hyped to see how the 450 class turns out, we all know sexton will take it but the fight for 2nd and 3rd will be huge
Americans have no idea about the Euros! Vialle is 2x MX2 champ! MX2 is stacked with super fast dudes! He will a little bit to get used to American tracks and bike but he is DEFINITELY in the title chase!
Lots of competition still: fernandis, sexton, jet, and AP. 250 class is packed with guys that can win: j coop, Hunter, kitchen, RJ, & shimoda & vialle better outdoors.
And Vohland is goin to star Yamaha and shimoda is goin to Honda. I think Levi will do good on the kawi, hopefully get them back on top or atleast to the end of the season would be good
@@jordanemede than star would have to move on from two riders not just kitchen. Theirs a reason why they just signed daxton bennick to a 2 year deal. He’s going to be on the pro team starting next supercross season.
I think Hunter can do it but has more competition than Jett had, Vialle, Deegan, Cooper confident after his 450 ride, and Shimoda looking as good as he has, it’s a big field! Deegan will be top 3 to 5 every week and be winning by end of year! But Hunter for the title!!
Well Vohland needs to stop goon riding, put his head forward, elbows up and shift a gear. I don't know who his riding coach is, but how tf do you not see this poor technique.
im glad Tom survived his first season of SX
Now we see his tru skills at moto x
100% agree and tbf for a first year he did ok and as you said he survived. I cant wait to see him outdoors. I just got a feeling he will be outfront 🤞
A lot of people will be surprised by how fast he is. I think he has a very good chance at the championship.
Yea, the 2 times world champ is no jokes
@@mototrials582 agreed 100% he is being totally overlooked
let’s go AC rooting for ya
250 class is stacked even without Jett! Happy the 250 guys stayed healthy during supercross!
With the exception of the whole PC squad lmao
@@eliasvaldes82 right.. lol whats new
Jo is going to kill it.
Is forkner coming back?
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 Unlikely, torn ACL takes 6 months so maybe towards the end of the season
250 CLASS WILL BE EPIC THIS YEAR
really hope so because it feels like 450 will be quite boring at the beginning now with so many injured
@@pop4783 something tells me a lot of privateers are going to get fill ins and be able to show there talent more and get more fans since there riding a half a million dollar bike instead of 15k bike
@@_.momjeans_9219 yeah hopefully
Great camerawork on AP! Also...Vialle looks confident...
He should.hes like FINALLY I'm in my element and can show you chumps what I know how to do. I don't think he beats hunter but he will be very good
Most enjoyable
Nice camera work 💪
Glad to see C Mumford still on the team for outdoors. Haven't seen Mossiman in a long time. Hopefully he can stay upright. Those kawi's look so good.
Vialle looks beat good. Hunter going to have his hands full.
Are y’all going to have a MX preview podcast or articles
Adam looks so smooth!!!
Happy AC is back❤
Great camera work.
The guys are looking good.
Thanks for posting
Vialle for the #1 this year
important season for vohland.
vialle is looking great, and vohland is looking like he rides without a gearshifter
He is an interesting rider in how he does it
Really hoping Max can pull it together or I'm afraid he'll be without a ride. Just seems like he rides to timid.
looks like he's sitting on a uncomfortable chair when he rides
@@pop4783 vialle or vohland
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 vohland
I think this is the first time in a while where the 250s is more intriguing. Most of the 450 field is gone, 250 has Cooper, vialle, shimoda, Deegan, hunter, and I'm sure there are a few I'm forgetting.
hopefully reynolds and difrancesco can have a good run
2:07 lol Plessinger man. That was sick!
😂😂 hair flapping in the breeze baby ✊
hope to see mumford do good
I hope Mitch lets him race the bike
Just can't get over VOhlands elbow down riding style
😂😂 why does this guy still have a factory ride?
if you liked him on ktm you’ll love him on star
@@MotoEssence thats not happening
Exactly. It was bugging me
@@Rubi_K_sound why don’t you have one?
I can’t wait to see vialle and Justin cooper head to head
Vialle is much better than Justin
@@joao55mx32 shut up no he's not lol
@@joao55mx32 Justin won the mx2 class at des nations last year and has been a title threat the last 2 years, saying that Vialle is much better is simply not true.
@@eliasvaldes82 2 x world champ
@@joao55mx32 so was Musquin, what has he won?
He's the reason I got a KX 450 such a legend 🔥💚
Lol all the Kawis are in the lcq we all it the Kawasaki main event Haha
Who's we there boy , the fact that privateers choose them shows how good they are in pro competition, how much do really know about mx bikes , you seem a little naive.
Kx450 has pretty much won the shootouts last 3 years, good choice. Makes me want one.
those pc 250’s sound so good
Vohland kinda reminds me of Vuillemin, riding elbows down, lot of body movements and seats early in the corners. He looks fast. Hope he keeps it on two wheels.
Good call on making AC the last segment. Dude was RIPPIN!
Was it just me or did he look noticeably faster than every other guy haha
@@tristenbailey3742 I bet outdoors won't be so bad on his arm. He won the title in 19' and took Osborne down to the final moto of his 450 outdoor rookie year. If he stays upright I bet he can win some.
Jo Shimoda coming for that 250 title
Tom looks quick!
At 2.09 listen out for the Eagle scream
Vholand almost looks like he’s goon riding with the straight back and the way he tucks his elbows, idk but it just looks funny.
AP looks really fast!!
Well at least 250's will be good hopefully!
The ktm boys are looking good
Man I will be genuinely upset if Tomac retires. As an Aussie I was so fucking excited to see him show Jett the ropes. Would've been so cool. There is still some legends for him to learn from anyway.
Maybe he realized Jett was gonna show him the ropes eh?😂 I will be bummed if he doesn't come back too man it sucks
Tom Vialle is fast and if he gets used to the format and tracks quickly he will be in the hunt for the championship. Hunter will be a contender also. Not sure about the American's.
stop it. you know damn well j coop coming for that championship
You have JCoop who's always a contender, a healthy JMart who is also always a contender, Hampshire who's very fast, and also a lot of fast up and comers like Kitchen, DiFrancesco, Deegan they say has been going pretty fast on the outdoor track too, so you never know. Shimoda is not American, but he should be a major title threat as well.
The yanks will get spanked.
@@1planet730 not a chance homeboy
@@tambourahall7865 laugh. I can't wait until the gates drops and the series kicks off. Good luck, if JC wins I'll eat my words.
I also think Americans look awesome on groomed tracks but it’s a lot different when the are rutted and brutal at the end of the 2nd race!
They should be practicing at the end of the day when the track is nasty!
Vialle and Hunter have ridden nightmare Belgium tracks so they have an advantage!!
we need tom vialle to do well. get some confidence back. next year is the real test.
2:08 giddy up buckaroo!
Tom is going to scoop up some wins for sure.
I mean its only gonna be about learning the tracks for vialle, dude has everything a champ needs, speed, starts, mind .....everything
Looking like it's gonna be Vialle, H.Lawrence, and rj for the 250 points battle
your forgetting shimoda
And Martin
Vialle has a chance at winning motos but I don't think he's a title contender. Shimoda is a stronger threat over vialle. Also Justin Cooper you left out, he's definitely a contender.
@@gregmulfort9577vialle is a 2x mxgp champion...
@@fabiogutierrez1699
I realize that. Still a rookie to US nationals.
any news on Herlings coming to race???
he signed 3 more years for mxgp i think.
You can zoom in and out during a shot...
AP is a rider you just can’t nail down. He will be running 8th one race and win the next one.
Saw that, AP... lil whiskey in them hoops.
Vialle’s lower body always looks so stable. Also it never looks like he’s bearing too much weight on his pegs, he must squeeze his bike very hard with his knees and quads. Him and Hunter actually look very similar on the bike to me, with some minor variants.
Vohland always looks fast and comfortable on the bike. But never can produce the laptimes i think he would. It always sounds like he’s in a gear too low and just isn’t good at carrying a high speed through corners. I know he has a big bmx backround, which contributes to his bike control looking so effortless most of the time. But it seems like he lack finesse in terms of his braking and throttle applications.
If Vialle isn't winning races and battling for the championship, what does that say about the last couple years of MX2 guys compared to the AMA 250 guys?
That it’s a completely different ball game in different country’s . Here in the states we have tracks that are made more for speed. I believe over seas it is definitely more technical.
@@bwagss5579, I understand, but guys like Reed, Roczen, and Musquin obviously did well in both. Do we just ignore that? I think Searle, Rattray, and Anstie got similar results in both as well. I don't think they're as night and day different as people try to claim. They are different, but I think they aren't as different as SX is to MX. I also don't think the talent is much different either. I think it comes down to eras and who the specific riders are at the time that determines the difference between AMA and MXGP.
@@jkell411 the only thing I will say is the overseas motocross is tougher. Vilapotto struggled overseas after he retired here. Ferandis has dominated as well over here and even though I’m a reed fan he won motocross when Stewart was hurt . He never beat stew or Ricky for a outdoor title.
@@bwagss5579, Villopoto won a race... And Ferrandis was battling for wins all the time over there. Reed was better in SX than MX. Either way, it's not comparing apples to oranges. I'm just trying to say they are closer than people say. The difference is very exaggerated.
Our tracks these days are wide open highways I wish we could slow them down a bit, and make them more technical.
And I've personally thought for years that our amateur outdoor tracks don't need to be a mile long, I think smaller tracks maybe half as long would make for better racing, better for viewing, more fun to ride etc. a bunch of slow amateur guys circling a mile long track is not exactly fun to watch. Is it any wonder the sports not growing at the amateur level.
Both red bull 250s look really good but I don't see anyone remotely close to vialle come gate drop time
Thinking it will be Hunters title cold prove harder than expected. Both Tom and Jo will have something to say about that.
Can wait for some real motorcross and see how Chase and Jett stacks up against each other
Mosiman needs some good starts and some confidence and he will do well. I only say confidence because of his misfortune in earlier seasons. The foreigners will be good outdoors. Hope for the 450 class to have as much potential battling. Jett on the 450 will be 🤌🏻 💯.
2:08 "AA-Ron...where are you? Where is AA-Ron right now?"
(TH-cam Key and Peele "Substitute Teacher".)
AC looks hungry af
What were the lap times looking like? TV is going to put it on 'em. He's in his house now.
Shimoda all day
Shimoda, Vialle, and H. Lawrence top 3 all year.
Top 3 Behind J coop
@@quadcityracing didn't he go 450
Jett Reynolds is actually gonna race?! I can’t believe it
Yea he'll be at fvckin Loretta's in A prolly 😂😂
now that jett isn’t just gonna take off in 80% of the races the 250 class will be good and i’m hyped to see how the 450 class turns out, we all know sexton will take it but the fight for 2nd and 3rd will be huge
I wouldn't sleep on Ferrandis
Sexton better watch out Jett is fast and hasnt even been pushed to his limit. We have all seen sexton fall hopehea got it together Jett is no joke
@@jamieargent7139 yep and Sexton is used to racing Eli who is the cleanest racer ever. He probably won't like racing with Dylan and Jett in comparison
@@gregmulfort9577 exactly things will change fast outdoor its gunna get interesting
I would put money on Jett winning the 450 championship. Remember last year's MX of Nations. Jett's first time racing the 450.
Vialle looked fast.
HL and Or TV 1 and 2
Am I the only one that thinks it’s wild that I haven’t heard anyone consider vialle as a contender for the 250?
Americans have no idea about the Euros!
Vialle is 2x MX2 champ!
MX2 is stacked with super fast dudes!
He will a little bit to get used to American tracks and bike but he is DEFINITELY in the title chase!
Plenty of people in these very comments have said exactly the same thing bro. People are high on him no doubt
Mummmmffffyy still on the PC team for outdoors !!??
I really hope so give the kid a shot let him earn it! He's looking great
Think Vialle is gona give Hunta & Sushi problem. Haven’t JC32 yet he should be up there too
Tommy boy looking the goods, ready to smoke Hunter for the title!
Sup bud? :D
I wanna be hyped for motorcross but with so many riders out, Im just not as excited as past years!
Lots of competition still: fernandis, sexton, jet, and AP. 250 class is packed with guys that can win: j coop, Hunter, kitchen, RJ, & shimoda & vialle better outdoors.
Deegan won’t be interested in the other rookies , he’s got bigger fish to catch!!
LET MUMFORD RUN THE KAWI MITCH ❤
They groom these tracks way too much.. You need to practice on rough tracks to get ready for outdoors IMO....
9:35 Musquin on Vialle’s bike
Anybody heard that Levi may have signed with Kawasaki?
And Vohland is goin to star Yamaha and shimoda is goin to Honda. I think Levi will do good on the kawi, hopefully get them back on top or atleast to the end of the season would be good
@@ladylog5470 losing Joe damn. Love me some green bike.
@@ladylog5470 Levi’s spot will most likely be taken by bennick if he does leave. I can see vohland going to kawi and kitchen going to ktm though.
Kitchen to PC and Vohland to star are both solid rumors
@@jordanemede than star would have to move on from two riders not just kitchen. Theirs a reason why they just signed daxton bennick to a 2 year deal. He’s going to be on the pro team starting next supercross season.
I think Deegan will be a top 3 guy in 250
#bringbackglenhelen
These guys haul ass.
man i expected more out of Vohland but he looks pretty skinny. Maybe some weight training could help out.
I hope forkner stays healthy for six next year I really wanna see him do well he has the talent.
idk why but max vohland looks like a goon when he rides, elbows down boys elbows down lol
I think Hunter can do it but has more competition than Jett had, Vialle, Deegan, Cooper confident after his 450 ride, and Shimoda looking as good as he has, it’s a big field!
Deegan will be top 3 to 5 every week and be winning by end of year!
But Hunter for the title!!
Max vohland pinned it
But his body position and elbows are not that great
Vohland looked fastest of them all, then vialle. 450s are BFPs
Vohland rides stiff
AC9…. Didn’t you beat Chase and all these dudes in 250s…? Surely it’s not fitness anymore dude..?
He will be right with you sir 😂
Ride young Jo Ride! Be careful Jo? There's a rider that prefers Taking riders out over fair sporting competition!
Jfc shift the bike
🤭😴😴😴
first
Well Vohland needs to stop goon riding, put his head forward, elbows up and shift a gear. I don't know who his riding coach is, but how tf do you not see this poor technique.
Nobody happier that outdoors is here than max vohland. Sheesh
no Deegan wtf