The only debate there should be is if alive madara with the Rinnegan and no ten tails could have defeated alive Sage hashirama but then again I’m not sure if the Rinnegan makes up for the difference of the full nine tails so for me hashi still wins
@@ty-ray1307 rennigan Madara is definitely beating alive Hashirama. 1 rennigan Madara one shotted all the tailed beasts, tf u mean u ain’t sure if it makes up for the 9 tails amp?😂 Limbo one tap Hashirama
@@Rck-vert Hashirama captured the tails beast as pets and gave them away you act like slapping tailed beast means anything to hashi also everyone who encountered the limbo got right back up after it attack blunt force trauma is not going to fazed hashirama
@@dragondrakage2402 hashirama was nerfed and pinned by the rods that dosent count or happen if hashirama is alive also if hashi wanted to hurt kurama he very well could have
@@zherolltaichiimayor8005 it’s one thing to have an arsenal of Ninjutsu and techniques, it’s another to almost just straight up be invincible, since it would allow him to survive things greater than his own strength and limits, Madara knew he could regenerate lost organs, he wouldn’t know that unless he saw it in person, and the only one who could’ve injured Hashirma like that, would have been Madara
@@bloodwolf6818 kind of, they both “ran out of ammo” the Susanoo was stripped, but the Buddha ran out of hands, but the fight actually did not end there, it continued way past Hashirama’s Sage mode and Madra’s EMS
@@EVOBane Yeah... he's really slept on. In a hypothetical where Jason and 47 are placed within the John Wick world and given the mission to take out John Wick, I think John Wick dies in a matter of hours honestly 😂 If they are briefed beforehand on John Wick's intel, I think either of them could just snipe headshot him with precision. But in a 1v1 situation where they are just fighting, I think Wick's inhumane pain tolerance and suit will give him the edge. He got hit by a speeding truck and walked that shit off, punches and cuts and even bullets won't really faze him much. It's basically like Pattinson's Batman, I think John Wick vs Batman would be a closer fight. They're about equal in just everything expect lethality.
@@ty-ray1307 i agree, he has no direct counter to the buddha... in the same way hashirama doesnt have a direct counter to having his soul ripped out. Hashirama barely won a fight with alive madara, and had to trick him in the end just to secure the victory. Now imagine him having to fight the guy who nearly killed him with infinite chakra (meaning his susanoo would never deplete and he can spam ninjutsu to his hearts content), not being able to take any real physical damage (meaning you cant ever truly kill him) and having 7 brand new abilities hashirama would have no clue about (hashirama doesnt have knowledge of the renningan [except rennei rebirth for some reason]) and lastly, wood release. Im sorry but if hashirams barely beat alive madara how do you think he's beating a version of madara with way more hax than his alive self? Edit: not to mention, its implied hashirama was healing himself throughout the entire fight too. So if he couldn't heal himself and had to fight valley of the end madara, he would have definitely died.
bro I thought Six and Swag were drunk during that livestream
I think I was right haha
I dont get it we all saw Hashirama literally win a 1v2 vs EMS madara and the FULL kyuubi lol. How is this a debate
The only debate there should be is if alive madara with the Rinnegan and no ten tails could have defeated alive Sage hashirama but then again I’m not sure if the Rinnegan makes up for the difference of the full nine tails so for me hashi still wins
@@ty-ray1307 rennigan Madara is definitely beating alive Hashirama.
1 rennigan Madara one shotted all the tailed beasts, tf u mean u ain’t sure if it makes up for the 9 tails amp?😂
Limbo one tap Hashirama
@@Rck-vert Hashirama captured the tails beast as pets and gave them away you act like slapping tailed beast means anything to hashi also everyone who encountered the limbo got right back up after it attack blunt force trauma is not going to fazed hashirama
@TY-RAY except hashirama had to actually restrain and put the ninetails to sleep, while 1 rinnegan madara 1 shotted him and the other 8 biju
@@dragondrakage2402 hashirama was nerfed and pinned by the rods that dosent count or happen if hashirama is alive also if hashi wanted to hurt kurama he very well could have
Madara most def can use all the rennigan abilities he uses the deva path a few times even seen levitating like pain briefly
Also absorbed Naruto's Rasen Shuriken.
@@AstroSully that’s obvious
@@AstroSully he couldn't cause he was paralysed by Hashirama
If it wasn’t for Hashirama’s regeneration, it would most likely be Madara
If it wasn't for Madara's sharingan, it would most likely be Hashirama. This is your logic
@@zherolltaichiimayor8005 it’s one thing to have an arsenal of Ninjutsu and techniques, it’s another to almost just straight up be invincible, since it would allow him to survive things greater than his own strength and limits, Madara knew he could regenerate lost organs, he wouldn’t know that unless he saw it in person, and the only one who could’ve injured Hashirma like that, would have been Madara
@@orion5565 didn't hashirama body madara
With the whole Buddha statue thing
@@bloodwolf6818 kind of, they both “ran out of ammo” the Susanoo was stripped, but the Buddha ran out of hands, but the fight actually did not end there, it continued way past Hashirama’s Sage mode and Madra’s EMS
You switched up
What are you talkin about lol
You a Seth fan huh you also like Charleston white
@@isaiahbrown4583 yeah tbh I kinda do
Jason bourn vs agent 47 vs John wick who's the deadliest fighter
John Wick >>>
At this point John Wick 1v2's them an wins.
His suit is a damn bullet sponge😂
@@revenantronin8377 lol yeah I saw that clip but Jason bourn kinda slept on in terms of action movie characters
@@EVOBane Yeah... he's really slept on.
In a hypothetical where Jason and 47 are placed within the John Wick world and given the mission to take out John Wick, I think John Wick dies in a matter of hours honestly 😂
If they are briefed beforehand on John Wick's intel, I think either of them could just snipe headshot him with precision.
But in a 1v1 situation where they are just fighting, I think Wick's inhumane pain tolerance and suit will give him the edge. He got hit by a speeding truck and walked that shit off, punches and cuts and even bullets won't really faze him much.
It's basically like Pattinson's Batman, I think John Wick vs Batman would be a closer fight. They're about equal in just everything expect lethality.
Niggward I’m weak
No one on this app can debate 23hammr
bro in the show Hashirama won what more do you need LMAO
Alive hashirama>>any madara
Pre 10 tails
Idk revived madara with his one rinnegan and hashi sage mode actually got a shot at beating him mainly because of limbo
@@ishmaelpierson7681 madara dosent get Sage mode if hashi wasn’t nerfed and pinned by rods also madara still has no counter to 1000 arms
Idk fam, even the madara who just got reanimated would probably stomp alive hashirama
@@king.apocalypse4357 he has no counter to 1000 arm Buddha
@@ty-ray1307 i agree, he has no direct counter to the buddha... in the same way hashirama doesnt have a direct counter to having his soul ripped out. Hashirama barely won a fight with alive madara, and had to trick him in the end just to secure the victory. Now imagine him having to fight the guy who nearly killed him with infinite chakra (meaning his susanoo would never deplete and he can spam ninjutsu to his hearts content), not being able to take any real physical damage (meaning you cant ever truly kill him) and having 7 brand new abilities hashirama would have no clue about (hashirama doesnt have knowledge of the renningan [except rennei rebirth for some reason]) and lastly, wood release. Im sorry but if hashirams barely beat alive madara how do you think he's beating a version of madara with way more hax than his alive self?
Edit: not to mention, its implied hashirama was healing himself throughout the entire fight too. So if he couldn't heal himself and had to fight valley of the end madara, he would have definitely died.
On paper when you list out all their abilities and skills madara should win
On paper Anderson Silva shoulda beat Chris Wideman, didn’t happen tho.
On paper, Might Guy shouldn't have been able to even touch him also.
Wipe ya ass with that paper😂
Swag is so ass but swears he's the naruto communitys voice