Seed Saving Tips Ep 3 - Fruit Tree Seed | Organic Gardening
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- This is the third video in a 5 part series on seed saving for fruit and vegetable plants. In this episode (Ep3) I explain how I save the category I call "Wet Seeds" from our food garden to grow more organic plants next season. The next episode (Ep4) details saving "tubers, rhizome, runners, bulbs, suckers" and the previous episode (Ep2) • Seed Saving Tips Ep 2 ... was on saving Wet Seed so make sure you see all episodes as all videos in this series are related. Happy gardening, cheers :)
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Hey. I want to store fruit seeds for next season to grow... can you help me to to guide me how to save apple.. .. pear.. grape seeds for coming season please ?
I'm here because my 6 year old granddaughter lovingly said, "here Grandma, this is for your garden" and then pulled a seed out of her pocket from yesterday's orange. 💞 The thing took 3 months to sprout and is now about 1 inch tall with 4 leaves! I'm babying the heck out of it, growing it in a plastic cup, and plan to give it to her as a house warming present some day. I have no idea what kind of orange it was, hoping to one day have a bite of something tasty. 💖
That’s beautiful
Lovely, I hope you put it in a bigger pot to flourish 🙏🏾
It's good to see you have your priorities right!
Good Luck
Orrrr how about you grow it for her in your backyard ❤
Wow I never knew they shipped tree's in a box. The world is full of business success and guidance.
I got several plants by mail, e.g. seekale and everlasting kale. I will get potatoes, asparagus, blue berries bushes, an apple tree and 3 special pines. I ordered with semi-local orchards and nurseries. They need to ship fast 1=2 days. I'd love to go to a nursery but everything is closed here (Germany) and has been for months. It's wonderful that they ship plants!
Giggling at your bush knife, now that's a knife :) For a faster-rooting citrus seed especially for people not living in the tropics, peel the coat around the seed. It's easy, Then plant. When they grow and you don't have the patience to wait a few years to fruit, save it to practice grafting on it. btw, at the end of next summer, prune your star apple tree, that usually encourages blossoms in spring. Also, with stone fruits, you will find most of them will be true to the parent. I grew nectarines, peaches and apricots from seeds and they were perfect.
my grandfather "farmer" says that sometimes, you need to stress the trees to get it to fruit, slight heat from a near fire, chopping some brunches during summer, the next season fruits appear !
Despite how much I read on gardening, I always learn something new from your videos! Thank you!
The advantage of growing fruit trees from seed is to produce “root stock” onto which you graft your know and previously fruited scion. Actually I like to air layer and get same as parent.
Mark, I live west of you, like way out west... and have been collecting and planting fruit tree seeds for several months... its mostly to have SOMETHING grow on our block. I plan on growing our 'nursery bought' plants (lemon, blueberry, pawpaw) in one area and the little seed ones just as decoration more than anything.
I have been lucky enough to have 2 apple trees sprout and a nectarine or peach as well, and even though they wont be true to type, they will still be worth having for the birds and bees :)
I bought Midgem Berry, Lilly Pilly and Burdekin Plum online and I am really happy with those trees which will form a line of natives about 400 metres long. (staggered of course to take advantage of rain run off)
We are in drought out here, so if my seed plants dont take off, I really dont mind.
Thank you so very much for your videos Mark, living out here but having your (almost local) knowledge come into my world, means so much. Cheers, Colleen at Tara
Where did you buy fruit trees online? Im looking for java plum seedlinga
Another great video!! With the mangoes, you can tell as soon as the seed sprouts whether it's going to be true to type. Polyembryonic mangoes are true to type. If more than one tree sprouts from the seed, it's polyembryonic. But even before that, you can use secateurs to trim away some of the edges of the seed, and pry it open to see the kernel. It is covered by a thin brown membrane. Now place it in a zip-lock bag with some wet tissue or paper towel and wait for it to germinate. If it starts to have a few plants germinate, you can often (very carefully) separate them and grow several trees from the one seed. They will (usually) all be true to type, although there IS a possibility that one of the seedlings MAY be cross-polinated. Legend has it that the weakest seedling is cross-pollinated - and conversely, legend also has it that the strongest seedling is cross-pollinated.
If you don't have room or money grow some seeds it's really fun and you can make some bonsai's along the way
I Love your love for the soil, Thank for your info.
I am from South Africa
Thanks for the video Mark! many citrus and Mango do grow true to seed..but it is hard to find out detailed info on what types do!, as few people have ever looked into it, but here is the twist, citrus can both make seeds that are monoembryonic ''one plant per seed'' and polyembryonic ''more than one plant per seed'', all the plants can be true to seed or ''not'', but mostly polyembryonic citrus seeds produce one seedling clone of the mother tree and then a few hybrid seedlings, the clone seedling is most of the time the most Vigorous, you can spot this a mile off as it's twice the size, if you look closely at a sprouting seed and see a few seedlings coming out, you can pull the seed coat off and separate the seedlings, in this way you can chose to grow seedlings that are exact copy's of the plant you got the seed from or grow seedlings that might get you something different, the root system of your new plant can be ill adapt to your environment and some of the trees may fail to grow well or just die all of a sudden, rootstocks do offer some protection and there are many other reasons why they are used, I didn't know any of this 4 years ago when I planted a bunch of seeds of the New Zealand Lemonade tree, known as just a Lemonade Tree in New Zealand, it's a hybrid of a lemon and a mandarin, now two of my trees are fruiting and one is more like a Lemon and the other more like a mandarin, turns out the New Zealand Lemonade is said to have been found in the 1980's in New Zealand but my mum say's her uncle was growing them in the 50's and talking to more people about it, they remember large trees in the 70's, I think people have been growing them from seed for some time as you get different tasting fruit off different trees and many people just use to give it a go back then, as there was not the information to be had as there is today, people commonly planted seeds of plants they liked and just hoped for the best, turns out that's how we got most of the citrus trees we have today. You look like your swimming in Citrus Mark I hope you can find the small space for a few new Citrus protege's. Cheers! keep up the Good Work!!.
This series is so good!! I have learned so much. Thank you!
My plan is to grow trees from seeds directly planted in the ground, and allowed to grow naturally. When they are large enough, and at least one full year has passed, I plan to graft known types on the branches, leaving one branch from the original tree. This gives me good, reliable, known results, and a wonderful mystery possibility, because, while not true to seed, there is no other way to get that one in a million variety that takes fruit to another level!
So glad I found this video
The best way to grow exactly the same fruit trees is cloning. Take new growth from the tree and allow it to sprout roots in potting soil. Don't keep them in direct sunlight for atleast 2 weeks. Cuttings require a lot of water! Water several times a day in hot climate. When it starts to grow, it is ready and a replica of the mother plant.
I saved a bunch of wild elderberry and chokecherry seeds from up in the rocky mountains. Not one sprouted the following year lol. I was thinking it would make for a good fence between properties and why not make it edible. More research is needed I suppose.
Super serious seed saving sunshine series sir, salute!
these videos came right on time!
Love the seed saving series!
As to fruit trees, my advice would be to avoid grafted trees and seek to find local strains that people have been growing in your area for generations. There are often a lot more local strains than people think and those seem to be the best way to grow a certain fruit in a place where you might think you wouldn't be able to grow it. Basically, you can benefit from the acclimatising work done by someone else long ago. If one can't be patient, buying saplings is the only way to go, but I still avoid grafted trees because I don't like having to hunt suckers to stop my trees from turning against themselves!
I have 3 lemon trees I started from seed about 3 months ago, currently just 5-6 inches tall… currently working on sprouting a few cherry tree seeds which takes 60-90 days in a moist paper towel that’s placed in a container with a lid and placed in the refrigerator…
You’re so peaceful
Thanks for saving me so much frustration and wasted effort trying to grow Calamansi from seeds.
Here in U.S., the tamarillo is often called tomato tree. It's in the nightshade family so the entire tree (not the fruit) is toxic.
Mark, Great series! Thanks!
I really enjoy all of your vids!! I live in Pennsylvania USA...so I can't grow all the wonderful plants that you can ... but your information is fabulous no matter what part of the world people live in!! I've got 4 avocado trees that are about 2 years old now ..in for the winter and out for summer... getting big now, 3.5 feet tall... should have fruit in about 3 more years...
i grew some finger limes from seed last year, they are still tiny but are slowly growing =) also have a kafir lime that is growing from seed, but i think for time, your 100% right, its much easier to get them from a nursery...
another great video, really enjoying this series, thank you
Thank you for this series Mark. I have been binge watching all these videos and taking notes. I really appreciate the information you offer. Thank you 🙏
This was great! We are moving out of a rental with a fantastic 🍋 tree that is heavy with huge, sweet fruit every few months like I’ve never seen and we (and friends and family) have been sad about leaving it behind. We will give it a go but won’t get our hopes up and will try something from Bunnings at the same time.
Highly doubt they would revert to the root stock. More likely the grafting stock has a very fussy or not fussy enough root system hence the need for more/less vigorous rootstock. The other problem is that you do not know 50% of the parentage. Where did the pollen come from? If you have the patience then you can sort through the offspring and maybe find a keeper. If not buy one where the searching has been done for you. The former method of growing your own could turn up a variety that changes the industry. Like a jazz apple. But don't hold your breath.
Our creators first language is a story of a gardener growing a garden if you look up the first language you'd see this. Yahuah spoke this language to create everything. It's the pictograph first any language...
My Grandpa taught me that if you beat up your fruit tree pretty good with a big stick or something it can initiate fruiting
Ha! That sounds like the old saying "A wife, a witch and walnut tree, the more you whip them, the better that they be!" Doesn't work for the first two...so I'm doubtful about the third!
2nd time I heard this from "farmer children". The other was put fire next to it or cut big chunks of shrub
I keep meaning to say thanks for the videos. They're really appreciated.
Thank you so much for sharing!
2:13
me: nooo don't chuck it away
Mark: "i'll eat it though"
me: oh ok
it's like he knows what i was going to say lol
Another great video Mark! Thank you, much appreciated!! ;)
If i was in australia i'd probably smell myself to your garden and be found four legged eating fruit that fell off the trees
Wonderful video series Mark, thank you.
havent seen your videos for a while now, they are even better than before if that is even possible! Good work mate, keep it up!
Thanks Mark ,loving this series and learnt a whole lot too :)
Really great video Mark, I have tried to grow mandarins from seed but didn’t have much success. And how amazing you can buy plants online and get them shipped! Loving this series :)
Nice episode
Love the series Mark thanks for the tips
Another great video! I received three satsuma orange seedlings three years ago from a relative. Nice trees, still no fruit. I put them in the back and will see if they will eventually fruit.
Loving the series! :)
Very good
How the heck did I miss the other two vids, will check them out today. Awesome information , great questions we must ask before planting that seed😊
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Learned alot from you. Keep it up. :)
Lots of info. Good.
Haha Crocodile Dundee that's not a knife.... this is a knife.
Thumbs up mate. Great video 👍... geez you have better luck with your tamarillo than me. Yours look amazing 1😀
that star apple usually fruit in its 5 or 7 years if not grafted. i have 10 of those in my back yard in the philippines. if that fruit, you could get atleast 30 or 50+ fruit's per season.
It grows a lot faster in the tropics
shh, don't tell my little lemon tree that.
saved the seed from a particularly good lemon I bought years ago, possibly a mayer I think.
not even sure it'll fruit here, but it's interesting to see.
thank you sir
I heard trees planted from seed without transplanting have better roots that can reach very deep.
🌹💕🌹👍👍👍.... Perfect... Thank you 🌻
Love your show by the way really motivating. Keep up the good work. I assume you are near Calloundra somewhere. I live in East Gippsland. Bairnsdale. See You Mark.
Liked the video:')
Next video ? Please and thank you
I would love to get some finger limes
Hi mate,
I live in far north Queensland and I'm going to try grow some Cedar Bay Cherry trees. I was wondering if you have any tips?
The problem with the dwarf pomegranate is that it does not taste good. Is there a variety of pomegranate which grows true to type and tastes good?
Hi Mark,
Thank you for your video found it interesting.
I am given to understand that seeds can do better in/on a bed of straw or hay, perhaps because of more constant heat generated
and better water retention,
but also possibly needed in more cooler climates, like where I am (in UK), then yourself, however maybe you would consider it for potatoes growing?
I inquire if you have ever made use of hay or straw in this way, for example included in your mulch or made straw/hay beds from same and whether
you recommend this or not and what age of straw /hay was/is used.
There is some speculation over the amount of weeds that can be smothered or caused by same,
whats your consideration on same?
Thanking you in anticipation of hearing from you.
Maureen
i wished id known this 3-4 years ago lol i started growing my lemon tree from the seed way back to see if i could. and its doing well its reached about 3.5 fee and it survived its first trasplant a while ago into a new larger pot. but im worried about it in the coming years cuz im not ready to plant it into the ground cuz i live in an apartment.
vampiricdemoncutie does it fruit?
@@Tatusiek_1 it hasn't fruited yet
vampiricdemoncutie I feel like when I try to grow them from seed they wont fruit and i’ll have to buy a grafted one, but I really want to grow them from seed, there is more satisfaction. Although I hear people say that the fruit production takes many years to set in and it’s slow and usually the quality is inferior from the parent because the parent itself was grafted. Maybe it is a waste of time to grow it from seed but I want to experiment, I live in a warm humid climate and I have fertilizers and stuff so maybe I can get them to grow fast? Idk
vampiricdemoncutie Sometimes they never fruit ;(
@@Tatusiek_1 TwT . . . I hope mine does . . If not, I tried
Hi I love your videos you’re a real inspiration to me, you inspired me to be more self sufficient and start my own garden and even raise my own chickens. Anytime I have a question you already have a video that will help me answer it. Here is my dilemma. Growing up my parents neighbor has the most delicious orange tree, I went to visit my parents and they gave me some of her oranges she shared. Now that I have my own land I want to try to duplicate her orange tree. Her oranges are the juiciest, thin peel, sweet and tangy oranges that leave your fingers smelling like orange extract! Her oranges BARELY have seeds. I was able to get 6-7 seeds out of 10 oranges. Now I feel discouraged to even attempt it. I can never find these oranges in stores and watching your video I feel they might even be Washington Naval but I’m not sure. What should I do?
Should I try the seeds and risk it not even fruiting or changing... is it possible to clone her tree from a branch? How can I find the exact name of her tree and look to buy one? She doesn’t know the name it was there long before her. It’s a short tree, probably only 7 feet high. It gives SOOOOOO many oranges from spring to fall. Each orange on average is about the size of a racquet ball, smaller than a tennis ball. It would be a dream for me to have this kind of tree, it’s the only orange I like to eat and my wife loves making fresh squeezed juice. Thank you!
I had an Advacado tree that i grew from seed for 15 years and it never even looked like getting a fruit.., and I live in an area where they grow.., the reason.., it was seed grown and not a graft. :(
What about the nut trees
If we shouldn’t grow our own trees from seed, then how do the pros at the nursery do it?
Great video Mark👍 I have a question I recently moved to Las Vegas, NV. From Colorado and have been trying to a garden established and have a couple of diffrent Veggies like Zucchini as well as Cantaloupe and Watermelon. The problems I'm having is the plants took right off from seed and have done quite well as far as blooming and general growth they have tons of flowers but absolutely no fruit the soil the growing conditions here are extremely diffrent from Colorado and I am wondering could the heat be the issue for the plants not bearing fruit? It has been triple digits for a month and a half 100°- 115° I have cover over them so aa not to get to over heated or burnt by the sun but these are plants that require full sun. Some are fine and producing fruit and others nothing I use all my lawn clippings as well as leaves from the trees and compost them so I don't think it is a soil problem. I have been adding good organic material to help amend the soil so I just don't know what to think but this is the first time I have ever experienced this problem. And suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Dennis Jones and Mark, at Self
I like yourself, would also like to learn if the heat is affecting the production in same way as you are inquiring, because I too have
Zucchini's not in great numbers after the flower, their fruits have not appeared, I know that one has to have males and females and pollination.
I presume that like tomatoes one can pollinate with a soft toothbrush, so I am thinking there should not be a problem from this direction.
Look forward to Mark's reply.
Dennis Jones Had a cousin in law that lived in Las Vegas subdivision. They had problems with veges requiring extra moisture from soil as the ones you mention. The other factor is the ones you've mentioned have trouble fruiting above 95*. Finally they also have plants with specific gendered blooms & need both to have proper pollination. Squashes & melons specifically are that type. If you see 2 slightly different flowers... Male being picked & petals peeled off. Carefully rub that stamen all around pistil in female bloom centers. Coming backs to the first when finished for best conditions.
Edie Boudreau I think the moisture is ok but I think it may be a male female thing for sure. I ripped out the zucchini and one type of cantaloupe both had tos of flowers but not fruit. Just replanted both and this time will make sure if nothiing else I hand pollinate myself. One type of Cantaloupe a smaller french variety is doing just fone it has several cantaloupe that are about softball size and starting to ripen already. The tomatoes, peppers yard long green beans spinach little gem lettuce pumpkin are doing fine as well. The corn no so well! Plenty of ears developing but didn't fill out and the kerrnals are really misshapen. I've replanted several things as I think there will still be plenty of time to harvest a good crop and I am shading them part of the day as the sun here is just brutal.
Hi ! Can i use regular tap water for watering my seeds ? 😁
I started an apricot tree from seed. It is still in the small stage. I am a little disappointed to hear that it may not produce good fruit but what the heck. What have I got to loose? Right now it seems like all the animals are getting my fruit anyway. Seems like I can'r win sometimes.
Apricots generally have self-fertile pollen so they tend to be nearly true to type unless grown in a mixed orchard. Same for peaches. other fruits are self-incompatible to prevent inbreeding and they are never true to type such as apples, sweet cherries, hazelnuts.
Do you have any suggestions for good online plant retailers? I'm worried about paying for something and being disappointed because they died on route or weren't the right variety. (I'm in NSW)
What do I do if I have to save a citrus seed to use next year, will the seeds be able to germinate if I save them dry?
Hey Mark. Can you grow fruit trees from cuttings?
"checkout the online world" 😭😭😭😭 I live in WA. Our biosecurity makes online buying simply too expensive
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So can you grow a pomegranate tree from seed that will produce fruit
How do you feel about getting scions from a tree orchard and rooting them? Do you find that works well?
Depends on the type, some are hard to root. Grafting to rootstocks can also control size, adapt for local soil, and provide root disease resistance. Rootstocks may be from seeds, cuttings, or layering depending on variety. Grafting to a large established tree provides instant roots and energy so the scion can grow fast and fruit can start after just one-two years in many cases.
Does guavas take also long to fruit from seed?
What about saving/storage of seeds?
I got some stone fruit seeds I want to save, trying to find out if I cracking the pit open and remove the seed to store or if I leave it in the pit....
I don't know for fact but I would keep it in the outer casing as this would help prevent the seed drying out during storage.
@@Selfsufficientme sweet, tyvm.
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So bottom line, don't bother saving those seeds. Unless just want to grow something as an experiment. I save my seeds in the freezer and use in jam making.
Dammit , english subtitle is broken!!! I cant hear!!! Italian setting is bs!!
This guy is telling you to not seed everything - contribution to the title
He is supporting Bunnings eBay etc and other companies other than self survival he states it in this video
A seed is life it’s grows and bears fruits
This is the problem these days we have guys like this and people watch and take advice from these videos yes he has some knowledge but I’m also great with energy - someone who has the all seeing eye on their T-shirt support eyes seeing eye corporations and telling you not to grow seeds but buy them is suspect to me