I have a Bolt EUV, delivered in July. I love it and charge it at home on 120 volts. Normally I have Doctor appts and grocery shopping. I'm retired and don't do road trips anymore. A great little city car.
That's great but wouldn't the base Bolt instead of the Bolt EUV have met your requirements too. The advantage of the Bolt EUV that I see is the semi-autonomous first generation Super drive available on the Bolt EUV Premier. Now with the Kona, you get advanced cruise control and accident avoidance so that's probably all the automation that's really needed anyways and the advantage is the lifetime warranty on the battery in lieu of GM's eight year warranty, however Hyundai is famous for covering flawed components with great warranties instead of addressing the problems.
@@jamespaul2587 Granted but the question remains whether or not the lower cost Bolt would be sufficient if all that is needed is the occasional grocery trip and visits to the doctor as the poster mentioned was all that was needed. Besides, the majority of passenger miles for all private vehicle travel has been mostly single person travel not travel in the back seats.
@@johnwang9914 yes, but back seat room and comfort may be factors to consider when taking occasional longer trips or carrying family numbers such as grandchildren. The price difference over the base Bolt is not too significant when compared to the increased passenger space and comfort
@@jamespaul2587 Yes, but it was the occasional use for groceries and doctor visits that was being discussed not carting around children. You might as well be saying that a Boeing 767 should be considered for visits to Hawaii, you're just being off topic. The original poster said that level 1 charging was all that was needed as there was only grocery visits and doctor's visits that was required, no commutes, no delivering children around, no Uber driving, effectively no rear seat use at all. Now where a Bolt EUV might be a consideration in the posted use is that Bolt EUV's are slightly more available than the base Bolt, I can find two new Bolt EUV's in dealer inventory in my area but the nearest new Bolt currently in dealer inventory is thousands of miles away.
I think you did a pretty good job on your comparison. We have 23 Kona EV Ultimate since August 22, we have done 32,000 km (19,000 miles), lots of long trips and my wifes daily commutor. We love the car, no issues at all and only down fall is lack of packing room. I laugh about your braking comment....we have hardly ever used the brake pedal! We tried ordering a Bolt EUV and waited and waited and it just did not arrive. In Canada they just are not being delivered...I still think the Bolt is a great car but we where offered the Kona for about the same price. Plus the Kona has heated rear seats, HUD, Sunroof, etc (in Ultimate trim). We are also waiting for our EV6 Long Range which should be here in June or July. Thanks for the reviews....good job. Mike
...until you charge, and drive the Bolt. We went with the Kona....The warranty is 10/100000. The warranty negates the savings from the Bolt hands down. The Kona charges faster, we know...we saw Bolt's all the way from Los Angeles to Tampa.
You paid between $5,000 -$12,500 more (depending on tax credit). You could easily just buy an extended warranty on the Bolt for much less than that lol. Also, it’s a Hyundai. With the extra money you save, rent a gas vehicle for road trips.
I wouldn't recommend sitting in the Bolt until it reaches 100% state of charge on a quick charger. The screen charge estimate shows 75% as the ideal target on quick chargers. I usually unplug it at 75% or 80%. The charge rate after 75% or 80% drops down to the point of basically home charging. Unless there's some good scenery to see at the charger it's better to get going after 75-80%.
I've not seen it addressed anywhere, but I'm curious about real versus actual range. That is, these are both rated at roughly 250 miles. I "assume" that's running them down from 100% to where they stop, but no one does that. I know the general recommendation is as you said, ~80%, so does that mean actual range is 20% below 250 miles? It's even worse since it's not run down to zero, but maybe 10-20%, implying that real range is more like 150 miles? I'll research it myself elsewhere, but it potentially could make a big difference for usability.
@@kurtbilinski1723 It depends greatly on temperature. I don't charge my 2022 Bolt Euv above 80%. Partly because I am still waiting for a new battery as part of the recall. I think in the winter, my 80% range was limited to about 180 miles. Now that it is averaging 90 degrees outside again, my range varies between 219 and 223 miles on the guessometer.
I charge my 21 base Bolt, with 34k, at home, to 90%. In winter with heater and 60mph+ speeds and a light foot, I get 210 miles per charge Driving in the warm weather, with no AC, on the back roads, up to 55 mph, I have gotten an indicated 330 miles per charge. But the best thing is not a penny for ME oil.
300?? Wow! I live in California, In the valley where we don't get much winter at all so my range will probably be up there too. That's good to know. And I guess the air conditioning doesn't pull nearly as much power as the heater?
@@kbanghart I had a 2019 Bolt and I'd get 260 miles easily in southern california using AC. 275 to 280 without AC. The heater definitely drains the range way faster though. The heated steering wheel and heated seats are a must so you can keep the heater off and keep driving range up.
We got our '23 Kona and love it. It will definitely chirp the tires - even at 20-30 MPH - in sport mode. We got 0% financing, which takes a pretty hefty chunk out of the tax credit difference, when compared to interest charges for a loan on the Chevy.
Why I subscribed to your channel a while back! Almost end of 2023 so considering getting a Bolt EUV. Some in stock now, so less/no markups and obviously a great car. If I drive 50 miles out to a meeting, then I can still drive a triangle to a second afternoon meeting and then home. 200+ range works fine for me. Charge overnight and repeat. Chevy is giving a great effort at a great value.
Got my EUV Premier fully loaded 3 weeks ago. Love the car so far, still haven't done any long trips because of the northern California weather. I tried to Super cruise on our way back from the dealership and so far it works amazing, still getting used to the one pedal but I hardly ever touch the brakes. The electric installation will happen next week, on Chevys dime and will be able to charge on 240V. Only thing is I gave to wait for next tax time for the credit. No regrets!
i just bought a bolt EUV. Hands down the best bargain if modestly equipped. No supercruise--useless. The BOLT gets 7500. The Hyundai doesn't. GAME OVER. The back seat room in bolt EUV is immense. GAME OVER. ride, tech toys, upright feeling (step in-step out), i'm getting 250 range. wireless android auto & phone charging + the HD camera 360--amazing. Hyundai is an afterthought. it's small, cramped, low to ground, cheap, tech is iffy & uninspired. I've owned 5 EV's, I like the Bolt EUV more than any of them, including the Tesla. Have some quibbles, but we looked at the Hyundai and passed. The Bolt EUV is even better than the Ioniq5. The hyundai's true competitor is the leaf, which is equally has-been old, dated, small, cramped and expensive. I like the Bolt EUV so much, i'm ordering a silverado EV for a work thing. won't get until 2099 but let's hope the price stays true. I've owned a 22 Kia EV6 and sold it after 5 months. Tesla - owned for 2. So far the Bolt EUV is a keeper.
Yeah but what many buyers don't realize is that it's a tax *credit* and not a rebate. Unless you expect to pay >$7500 taxes in the year you bought the car, it's not a real discount. How often do people pay >$7500 taxes? Guess I'm not rich enough to know...
@@kurtbilinski1723 May be things have changed. You don't have to pay or owe federal income taxes to receive the tax credit. I purchased my 2023 Bolt EUV in February 2024 and the dealer took $7,500 off the top and they pursued the tax credit (I assigned it to them). It's not a deduction--it's a credit.
My 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV Premier has front heated and ventilated seats, back heated seats, camera backview mirror, and all safety features for the price tag of $35k OTD. I didn't opt for super cruise, and sun-and-sound package, which could've given me hands-free driving on certain highways and updated audio system with dual sunroof. It gives me 300+ miles on full charge with mostly city driving (in warmer temperature of FL:) where you can use regenerative braking more often. Interior is big with a lot of front and rear legroom, which is an advantage of EUV over Bolt EV. Cargo area is adequate for your everyday haul. GM paid for the level-2 charger installation at my home, which saved me a good amount of money. It qualifies for full $7500 tax credit, so, if I will meet the income requirement to take advantage of that, it will end up costing me $27.5k OTD. Perhaps, the best EV you can get with a lot of passenger room, features, and great mileage for the money. GM's reliability is always questionable, so we will see how it will fare in the long run. So far with 2500 miles in 2 months, there has not been any issues but it is too early to judge the reliability of the car.
I had a refundable deposit on the 2022 Bolt EUV, then also the 2022 Kona ev once I test drove that. Really, it was a matter of which one came in first. Despite the larger size of the EUV, I do actually like the ride of the Kona better - and for our family, the longer range is important. We live in Canada and we find the estimated range is pretty accurate (417km) around zero degrees celsius - though when it's warm out, we get up to 575! The range is phenomenal at this price point. I love the way the Kona drives - it's not perfect, but overall I'm very happy with it. I did a lot of research and this car hit the points I needed at the price point.
We bought a 30K mile '21 Kona Ultimate this past spring. Like new, half price of the original MSRP. It has a PTC heater. I was very concerned about it's ability to serve our needs during the winter months until winter set in and its doing fine. Our out of town weekend destination is 100+ miles away and I have a L2-220V charger setup there. The car can do it with a 60% charge during warm months and arrive with greater than 20% charge. The experts say it is best to keep the battery between 20% and 80% charge so that is what we try to do. During the week we normally charge it to 60% and run it to 40% and then charge again. One charge lasts for much of our work week. On the weekends I might charge to 70% before going out of town. 100% if I think I need to. Plenty of range when I arrive at our out of town destination. About 30% starting at 70%. I don't know if the Bolt cousins will allow the user to pick the charge limits like that but it is an important feature for us. We can pick any charge level 50% and up by ten percent increments. Another thing worth knowing is how many miles / KWH the car consumes in different weather conditions. For us that's 5 mi/KWH around town mostly
Hi you never mentioned the 10 year/100,000 mile warranty on the battery pack offered for the Kona. we upgraded that to 125K. We bought the Kona for the long term use. thanks for your review it was very well done. like another response here, we did this at 0% financing as well as an addition to 750 rebate + military discounts total of $1250. In addition we herd that the Bolt EUV and EV might be discontinued this next year so going with the Kona made for the best choice for my family.
I see people talking about the cancellation being a reason not to buy a Bolt but I fail to see how that would change anything. Chevy still has to maintain warranties, and parts are still being made for all Bolts...
@reiverdaemon yes, but try to get batteries in 4 years after warranty. Government equipment I agree as they keep parts going for 15 years, civilian nope... the markets are rapidly changing electronics are antique in 18 months.what about customer service in 4 years... it's bad enough now.
I test drove both today and got a quote on both the base models and the Bolt came out $13,000.00 less over 7 years since Hyundai is 7.99% interest and the Bolt is 6.49% interest. I think I will keep the $13,000 and buy the Bolt since the Kona is not worth that much extra...I get the Bolt premium then.
So you're telling me that when you blast the heat on the Bolt, the range doesn't adjust and decrease accordingly and that it only affects the Kona? No way.
I've driven my 2019 Premier for almost 4 years now. Out of curiosity, I test drove an EUV recently. The difference is noticeable but not radical. Basically, the EUV is the same as the EV, only with a nicer trim. So, I'd rather wait for the Equinox EV before I switch to my next electric vehicle.
@@kbanghart Thanks for asking. I test drove an Equinox EV a couple of months ago and have mixed feelings about it. In a nutshell, the Equinox EV is a Bolt on steroids, largely offering the same set of features and a smoother, more comfortable, Caddy-ish ride - but without the breathtaking fighter jet-like nimbleness of the Bolt. I can see why some people might fall in love with the Equinox, it's just not for me personally. So, I keep looking while still honeymooning with my Bolt.
I grew up driving in the snows of Northern Ontario Canada and rarely could afford snow tires. So I spent some time comparing many different snow driving experiences. I went from an AWD SUV to the EUV. Put good snows on EUV for the first winter and had no issues. Drive to the conditions with snows and you are good to go. That low heavy battery really helps. We used to throw bags of cement in the bed of our pickups to get winter traction. lol.
The Kona in sport mode will most definitely chirp those tires (you must have been in eco?) but with a set of Michelin CrossClimate 2s, you'll be a Road Warrior! Interesting that Hyundai decided to drop the rear heated seats for the Kona in U.S. models but in Canada, it's in the Ultimate trim. We have different opinions on interiors, I feel the Kona has a classier and sturdier feel. The Bolt looks like cheap black electronics plastic aka fingerprint magnets. There's no denying the Bolt is unfairly advantaged with a tax credit but in the end, I would opt for the Kona over a cheaper/cheaper Bolt any day. Not sure how you can be fussed over the D,P,N,R layout on the Kona, that seems the right way to me.
Only idiots charge to 100% on a DCFC. As for the OPD on the Bolt, learn about it before talking about it. As for the winter range, Kona having a heat pump, it’s normal to be better, as long as the temperature is around freezing. Once the temperature goes down to lower than 20F, they are pretty much the same.
I love my Kona but I do hate how they hobble the infotainment system in the SEL but then even looking at the higher trim, it's only slightly better and that's mostly because of the navigation. Hyundai needs a major overhaul of their interfaces.
Once I found out Hyundai is offering a $7500 rebate on lease for a '23 Kona, I feel like it kind of makes it a no brainer, even without the tax credit...
Bought a new BOLT EUV. Waiting for it to be made……..my son owns a 2017 Chevy Bolt…… ever a problem. His battery pack had no problems, they replaced it anyway! Chevy is the new leader in electric cars. The Chevy Bolt is like the VW Bug, every body’s electric car.
Can you please check the heating systems in both of these EV's? While comparing electricity usage is good, how does the actual air vent temperature heat compare? How fast does it get warm/usable air from the vents? Here is my experience with the 2023 Kona EV heat.....It isn't good. My wife and I are on our 2nd 2023 Kona EV! Trust me, not because we want to. Let me explain... Bought the first one in December and wife reported issues with heat not working. They couldn't immediately reproduce but eventually did and after replacing the entire heater control assembly (as per tech line) they obtained the same results . They checked fuses, disabled the system open 40AMP fuse and after all that, said the car was defective and they would trade that in for the same 2023 Kona EV. They provided us another brand new, same make/model/color, and after 62 miles with the new car, the service manager verified "No Heat - Same as their trade in". So, they call in a regional "EV Expert" and he says, "at this time heat working as designed". He also said "in the cold weather pre-heat the vehicle for 1/2 hour with this procedure" (procedure never provided). So, I ran my own tests and uploaded the videos to youtube. th-cam.com/play/PL7Lcm9IY-sZ-r_6wE2RKStjK4C9Rzf3Z2.html You can see how unpredictable and unacceptable the heating system is in the 2023 Kona EV's! Based on what I've learned, @hyundai is using sub-standard heating systems in the USA. Why? I can only think the range of the vehicle wouldn't look as good if they used a better heating system (like they already do in Canada).
Bolt is better priced, but the Kona is definitely the better vehicle. Especially when it comes to charging speeds. 75kwh compared to 50kwh. Those 25W makes a difference. It's also more efficient. I also prefer the infotainment, dashboard, and interior on the Kona. That's all personal preference though.
Well, I like my ‘21 bolt. I wouldn’t mind a newer one. Even if they are the better priced, I still can’t afford it. I will wait another year. But yea, I do want another Bolt. 😊
Sponsored by Chevrolet!? The Kona is better in every way as an electric car. Not sure why you bothered comparing this Kona now that it's literally about to be replaced in a few months.
@@Porsche996driverthis is a biased review, the Kona is clearly the better car, which is why it outsells the Bolt. The new Kona has just be named car of the year. P.S anyone who publicly states they drive a Porsche almost definitely don't...
great to see a video with the soon to be replaced Kona. Still thinks she looks great and can't wait to see if the 23 is much better than the 22 or if going for the old one will be a good deal. :)
It's strange world where you have the Bolt and in most of the rest of the world we have the MG4. I wonder how it would come out if you put those two side by side.
Much of the appeal of the Bolt is that it is manufactured and primarily sourced in the U.S. -- along with the current $7500 income tax credit. The credit makes it even more affordable and comparable to ICE cars in price, so aside from not having any service infrastructure stateside, the MG4 would have a lot of hurdles being marketed here. Performance wise it would definitely be an interesting comparison head to head.
as far as i am aware you cannot as of jan 1 23. you have to make less than a certain $ depending on filing status for the bolt. chevy will install a quick charger for up to $1,000. crazy good deal.
Ev market crashing. I didn't qualify for the used rebate but i still managed to get A red line fully loaded EUV i try going for the kona as a second opinion but the dealership let me walked away they could care less about working a deal very bad taste after walking away i when online n found a deal for the 2023 EuV red edition fully loaded for 26000 with 2971 miles.
you forgot to mention that while the fast charging is putrid on the bolt it has 10kw ac charging so if you charge at home its much faster than the konas 7.2kw but yeah road trips with the bolt are gonna suck. even the kona is marginal - most evs charge at 120kw or 220kw so buyer beware!
wish chevy would relax their dc charging rate. it just software limited. this what happened when you allow lawyer to dictates technology usage. it is not the battery and hardware that is limiting the bolt-euv.
This comparison is a joke. Chevy Bolt, all the way. Why? Because if you're looking for an EV right now, and you're Middle Class, it's literally the ONLY option out there. One, you *will* find them on Chevy dealers' lots. Two, the mark-ups are actually reasonable. Three, Chevy's EV tech is good enough. Is Hyundai/KIAs tech better? Yes! And good frickin' luck trying to find any of their EV offerings on any of their dealer lots at the time of the making of this video.
They're not lookers!!!! Not they're not meant to be. The idea behind those 2 is to be affordable and targeting customers that don't give a shit about looks and to compete with other cars.
To clarify, Cliff said "it's not even a $3,000 option on the Bolt EUV", meaning it costs less than $3,000. Clearly this Bolt EUV has it since he's voicing over the demo of the feature. Thanks for watching!
This guy talks about EV's like he's never owned one. Secondly he barely touches on one pedal driving and how much better it is versus using your friction brakes 🙄 Chevy Bolt EUV all day long
How the f*ck did that Kona charge port make it past meetings and the final design? Seriously who thought it looked ok? It’s not centered, it’s asymmetric, and it sticks out like a sore thumb, completely ruining the aesthetics of the vehicle. It’s like Hyundai DOESN’T want to sell EV’s.
Ev manufacturers and dealers are saying ev batteries are safe, ? ... kind of reminds me of tobacco producers saying the same thing about their products,.... we all know how that turned out !! Manufacturers will say anything to make a sale... Get out of the EV market while you can, it's not safe !
Hahaha, you have to be kidding. You've been driving around in a Molotov cocktail on wheels worried about EV batteries? If I recall correctly, fires happen about 1,000 times more frequently in ICE cars than EVs. As it happens, there's another big safety difference between EV and ICE. EVs consistently outperform ICE vehicles in crash tests. The latest IIHS test of mid sized SUV rear passenger safety showed the top two are Mustang Mach E and Tesla Model Y, with about 15 different ICE models bringing up the rear.
@@davidmenasco5743 Sounds like you have been listening to a EV salesperson. They will tell you anything to make a sale... young unknowing buyers are an easy sell ! If it's Lithium or Lithium base or like most rechargeables.. Beware ! Here you go, in plain English Lithium batteries are regulated as a hazardous material under the U.S. Department of Transportation's (DOT) Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 C.F.R., Parts 171-180). Exposure to Lithium can cause loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea and abdominal pain. ► Lithium can cause headache, muscle weakness, twitching, blurred vision, loss of coordination, tremors, confusion, seizures and coma. This isn't for me or my family. Good luck, with your so called .. clean energy !
@@davidmenasco5743 Big business thinks of people as sheep, it's easy to steer people in the direction you want, with just a few persuasive claims. Foolish people are followers
Nonsense on EVs being so dangerous because of the battery. I happen to know a lot more about lipo batteries than most. I fly racing/freestyle quadcopters with lipo batteries. I took the time to learn about the good and bad of these batteries. I regularly crash into trees and the ground going 60+ mph and I've never had a fire because they are protected by a 3D printed cover. Battery fires are caused by being damaged or improperly charged. EV cars take care the charging so that they are not overcharged and are much better protected than my quadcopter batteries. As a former fireman, I can tell you that ICE cars catch on fire too.
2.5hrs to charge? Super heavy vehicles? Unpredictable in changing weather conditions? Cheap plastics in still somewhat expensive cars? 🤔 Thankful for ICE engines.
I have a Bolt EUV, delivered in July. I love it and charge it at home on 120 volts. Normally I have Doctor appts and grocery shopping. I'm retired and don't do road trips anymore. A great little city car.
That's great but wouldn't the base Bolt instead of the Bolt EUV have met your requirements too. The advantage of the Bolt EUV that I see is the semi-autonomous first generation Super drive available on the Bolt EUV Premier. Now with the Kona, you get advanced cruise control and accident avoidance so that's probably all the automation that's really needed anyways and the advantage is the lifetime warranty on the battery in lieu of GM's eight year warranty, however Hyundai is famous for covering flawed components with great warranties instead of addressing the problems.
@@johnwang9914 John, the EUV has considerably more back seat room, and many people prefer its look over the regular Bolt
@@jamespaul2587 Granted but the question remains whether or not the lower cost Bolt would be sufficient if all that is needed is the occasional grocery trip and visits to the doctor as the poster mentioned was all that was needed. Besides, the majority of passenger miles for all private vehicle travel has been mostly single person travel not travel in the back seats.
@@johnwang9914 yes, but back seat room and comfort may be factors to consider when taking occasional longer trips or carrying family numbers such as grandchildren. The price difference over the base Bolt is not too significant when compared to the increased passenger space and comfort
@@jamespaul2587 Yes, but it was the occasional use for groceries and doctor visits that was being discussed not carting around children. You might as well be saying that a Boeing 767 should be considered for visits to Hawaii, you're just being off topic. The original poster said that level 1 charging was all that was needed as there was only grocery visits and doctor's visits that was required, no commutes, no delivering children around, no Uber driving, effectively no rear seat use at all. Now where a Bolt EUV might be a consideration in the posted use is that Bolt EUV's are slightly more available than the base Bolt, I can find two new Bolt EUV's in dealer inventory in my area but the nearest new Bolt currently in dealer inventory is thousands of miles away.
I think you did a pretty good job on your comparison.
We have 23 Kona EV Ultimate since August 22, we have done 32,000 km (19,000 miles), lots of long trips and my wifes daily commutor. We love the car, no issues at all and only down fall is lack of packing room.
I laugh about your braking comment....we have hardly ever used the brake pedal!
We tried ordering a Bolt EUV and waited and waited and it just did not arrive. In Canada they just are not being delivered...I still think the Bolt is a great car but we where offered the Kona for about the same price. Plus the Kona has heated rear seats, HUD, Sunroof, etc (in Ultimate trim).
We are also waiting for our EV6 Long Range which should be here in June or July.
Thanks for the reviews....good job.
Mike
Bolt is $5k less plus $7,500 rebate. Clear winner over the Kona
...until you charge, and drive the Bolt.
We went with the Kona....The warranty is 10/100000.
The warranty negates the savings from the Bolt hands down.
The Kona charges faster, we know...we saw Bolt's all the way from Los Angeles to Tampa.
@@SirZeusor11 Faster level 3 charging didn't matter because we don't drive EV for long trips.
@@paulvon2378 .....but I got ya with the warranty/peace of. mind because at the end of the day, its still a Chevy
@@SirZeusor11 Kia isn't exactly the most reliable car around is it?
You paid between $5,000 -$12,500 more (depending on tax credit). You could easily just buy an extended warranty on the Bolt for much less than that lol. Also, it’s a Hyundai.
With the extra money you save, rent a gas vehicle for road trips.
I wouldn't recommend sitting in the Bolt until it reaches 100% state of charge on a quick charger. The screen charge estimate shows 75% as the ideal target on quick chargers. I usually unplug it at 75% or 80%. The charge rate after 75% or 80% drops down to the point of basically home charging. Unless there's some good scenery to see at the charger it's better to get going after 75-80%.
I've not seen it addressed anywhere, but I'm curious about real versus actual range. That is, these are both rated at roughly 250 miles. I "assume" that's running them down from 100% to where they stop, but no one does that. I know the general recommendation is as you said, ~80%, so does that mean actual range is 20% below 250 miles? It's even worse since it's not run down to zero, but maybe 10-20%, implying that real range is more like 150 miles? I'll research it myself elsewhere, but it potentially could make a big difference for usability.
@@kurtbilinski1723 It depends greatly on temperature. I don't charge my 2022 Bolt Euv above 80%. Partly because I am still waiting for a new battery as part of the recall. I think in the winter, my 80% range was limited to about 180 miles. Now that it is averaging 90 degrees outside again, my range varies between 219 and 223 miles on the guessometer.
I charge my 21 base Bolt, with 34k, at home, to 90%.
In winter with heater and 60mph+ speeds and a light foot, I get 210 miles per charge
Driving in the warm weather, with no AC, on the back roads, up to 55 mph, I have gotten an indicated 330 miles per charge.
But the best thing is not a penny for ME oil.
The bolt euv range depends on how you drive, i get a solid 220miles in the winter and 300 miles in the summer
300?? Wow! I live in California, In the valley where we don't get much winter at all so my range will probably be up there too. That's good to know. And I guess the air conditioning doesn't pull nearly as much power as the heater?
@@kbanghart I had a 2019 Bolt and I'd get 260 miles easily in southern california using AC. 275 to 280 without AC. The heater definitely drains the range way faster though. The heated steering wheel and heated seats are a must so you can keep the heater off and keep driving range up.
@@hjjr31 That's awesome to hear. I live near Sacramento and I much prefer cooler anyway, so I hardly ever use the heater.
We got our '23 Kona and love it. It will definitely chirp the tires - even at 20-30 MPH - in sport mode.
We got 0% financing, which takes a pretty hefty chunk out of the tax credit difference, when compared to interest charges for a loan on the Chevy.
Why I subscribed to your channel a while back! Almost end of 2023 so considering getting a Bolt EUV. Some in stock now, so less/no markups and obviously a great car. If I drive 50 miles out to a meeting, then I can still drive a triangle to a second afternoon meeting and then home. 200+ range works fine for me. Charge overnight and repeat. Chevy is giving a great effort at a great value.
Got my EUV Premier fully loaded 3 weeks ago. Love the car so far, still haven't done any long trips because of the northern California weather. I tried to Super cruise on our way back from the dealership and so far it works amazing, still getting used to the one pedal but I hardly ever touch the brakes. The electric installation will happen next week, on Chevys dime and will be able to charge on 240V. Only thing is I gave to wait for next tax time for the credit. No regrets!
Perfect, nice to hear.
It's good
I got the Bolt EUV and I love it. I am glad I am not leaving in a cold state because very cold weather really makes a lot of difference on the range.
But you just charge a couple days sooner than in the summer so not a problem.
You are correct about cold weather affecting range. Fortunately I only drive in town so even though my range is less it's enough for my purposes.
i just bought a bolt EUV. Hands down the best bargain if modestly equipped. No supercruise--useless. The BOLT gets 7500. The Hyundai doesn't. GAME OVER. The back seat room in bolt EUV is immense. GAME OVER. ride, tech toys, upright feeling (step in-step out), i'm getting 250 range. wireless android auto & phone charging + the HD camera 360--amazing. Hyundai is an afterthought. it's small, cramped, low to ground, cheap, tech is iffy & uninspired. I've owned 5 EV's, I like the Bolt EUV more than any of them, including the Tesla. Have some quibbles, but we looked at the Hyundai and passed. The Bolt EUV is even better than the Ioniq5. The hyundai's true competitor is the leaf, which is equally has-been old, dated, small, cramped and expensive. I like the Bolt EUV so much, i'm ordering a silverado EV for a work thing. won't get until 2099 but let's hope the price stays true. I've owned a 22 Kia EV6 and sold it after 5 months. Tesla - owned for 2. So far the Bolt EUV is a keeper.
Yeah but what many buyers don't realize is that it's a tax *credit* and not a rebate. Unless you expect to pay >$7500 taxes in the year you bought the car, it's not a real discount. How often do people pay >$7500 taxes? Guess I'm not rich enough to know...
You only need to make around 50-60k a year to pay that much in taxes... Average wage in America is 50-55k.@@kurtbilinski1723
@@kurtbilinski1723 May be things have changed. You don't have to pay or owe federal income taxes to receive the tax credit. I purchased my 2023 Bolt EUV in February 2024 and the dealer took $7,500 off the top and they pursued the tax credit (I assigned it to them). It's not a deduction--it's a credit.
My 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV Premier has front heated and ventilated seats, back heated seats, camera backview mirror, and all safety features for the price tag of $35k OTD. I didn't opt for super cruise, and sun-and-sound package, which could've given me hands-free driving on certain highways and updated audio system with dual sunroof. It gives me 300+ miles on full charge with mostly city driving (in warmer temperature of FL:) where you can use regenerative braking more often. Interior is big with a lot of front and rear legroom, which is an advantage of EUV over Bolt EV. Cargo area is adequate for your everyday haul. GM paid for the level-2 charger installation at my home, which saved me a good amount of money. It qualifies for full $7500 tax credit, so, if I will meet the income requirement to take advantage of that, it will end up costing me $27.5k OTD. Perhaps, the best EV you can get with a lot of passenger room, features, and great mileage for the money. GM's reliability is always questionable, so we will see how it will fare in the long run. So far with 2500 miles in 2 months, there has not been any issues but it is too early to judge the reliability of the car.
I own a 23 bolt EV, it's great that they have two slightly different body styles for now
Not all Bolts have front-heated seats?
@@radheshyama16no - ev 2lt & all EUV
Thank you@@rp9674
I had a refundable deposit on the 2022 Bolt EUV, then also the 2022 Kona ev once I test drove that. Really, it was a matter of which one came in first. Despite the larger size of the EUV, I do actually like the ride of the Kona better - and for our family, the longer range is important. We live in Canada and we find the estimated range is pretty accurate (417km) around zero degrees celsius - though when it's warm out, we get up to 575! The range is phenomenal at this price point. I love the way the Kona drives - it's not perfect, but overall I'm very happy with it. I did a lot of research and this car hit the points I needed at the price point.
We bought a 30K mile '21 Kona Ultimate this past spring. Like new, half price of the original MSRP. It has a PTC heater. I was very concerned about it's ability to serve our needs during the winter months until winter set in and its doing fine. Our out of town weekend destination is 100+ miles away and I have a L2-220V charger setup there. The car can do it with a 60% charge during warm months and arrive with greater than 20% charge. The experts say it is best to keep the battery between 20% and 80% charge so that is what we try to do. During the week we normally charge it to 60% and run it to 40% and then charge again. One charge lasts for much of our work week. On the weekends I might charge to 70% before going out of town. 100% if I think I need to. Plenty of range when I arrive at our out of town destination. About 30% starting at 70%. I don't know if the Bolt cousins will allow the user to pick the charge limits like that but it is an important feature for us. We can pick any charge level 50% and up by ten percent increments.
Another thing worth knowing is how many miles / KWH the car consumes in different weather conditions. For us that's 5 mi/KWH around town mostly
Hi you never mentioned the 10 year/100,000 mile warranty on the battery pack offered for the Kona. we upgraded that to 125K. We bought the Kona for the long term use. thanks for your review it was very well done. like another response here, we did this at 0% financing as well as an addition to 750 rebate + military discounts total of $1250. In addition we herd that the Bolt EUV and EV might be discontinued this next year so going with the Kona made for the best choice for my family.
I see people talking about the cancellation being a reason not to buy a Bolt but I fail to see how that would change anything. Chevy still has to maintain warranties, and parts are still being made for all Bolts...
@reiverdaemon yes, but try to get batteries in 4 years after warranty. Government equipment I agree as they keep parts going for 15 years, civilian nope... the markets are rapidly changing electronics are antique in 18 months.what about customer service in 4 years... it's bad enough now.
I charge overnight and in the Summer I get around 300 miles in my Bolt. In winter, I get about 225 miles.
I test drove both today and got a quote on both the base models and the Bolt came out $13,000.00 less over 7 years since Hyundai is 7.99% interest and the Bolt is 6.49% interest. I think I will keep the $13,000 and buy the Bolt since the Kona is not worth that much extra...I get the Bolt premium then.
did you buy it? how much? did you get a tax credti?
So you're telling me that when you blast the heat on the Bolt, the range doesn't adjust and decrease accordingly and that it only affects the Kona? No way.
Agree that doesn't sound right, unless the Bolt is using waste heat instead of battery power.
The bolt naturally gives you a warm feeling
I've driven my 2019 Premier for almost 4 years now. Out of curiosity, I test drove an EUV recently. The difference is noticeable but not radical. Basically, the EUV is the same as the EV, only with a nicer trim.
So, I'd rather wait for the Equinox EV before I switch to my next electric vehicle.
@@amenhotepavoskin1307 no that's equinox is here, are you going to get one? How much are you getting to trade in your other one?
@@kbanghart Thanks for asking. I test drove an Equinox EV a couple of months ago and have mixed feelings about it.
In a nutshell, the Equinox EV is a Bolt on steroids, largely offering the same set of features and a smoother, more comfortable, Caddy-ish ride - but without the breathtaking fighter jet-like nimbleness of the Bolt.
I can see why some people might fall in love with the Equinox, it's just not for me personally. So, I keep looking while still honeymooning with my Bolt.
Nice comparison - but does anyone have an opinion of how these FWD electrics perform on snowy roads?
I grew up driving in the snows of Northern Ontario Canada and rarely could afford snow tires. So I spent some time comparing many different snow driving experiences. I went from an AWD SUV to the EUV. Put good snows on EUV for the first winter and had no issues. Drive to the conditions with snows and you are good to go. That low heavy battery really helps. We used to throw bags of cement in the bed of our pickups to get winter traction. lol.
The Kona in sport mode will most definitely chirp those tires (you must have been in eco?) but with a set of Michelin CrossClimate 2s, you'll be a Road Warrior! Interesting that Hyundai decided to drop the rear heated seats for the Kona in U.S. models but in Canada, it's in the Ultimate trim. We have different opinions on interiors, I feel the Kona has a classier and sturdier feel. The Bolt looks like cheap black electronics plastic aka fingerprint magnets. There's no denying the Bolt is unfairly advantaged with a tax credit but in the end, I would opt for the Kona over a cheaper/cheaper Bolt any day. Not sure how you can be fussed over the D,P,N,R layout on the Kona, that seems the right way to me.
Murican Chevrolet is crap. Hyundai kona anyday for me........
Only idiots charge to 100% on a DCFC.
As for the OPD on the Bolt, learn about it before talking about it.
As for the winter range, Kona having a heat pump, it’s normal to be better, as long as the temperature is around freezing. Once the temperature goes down to lower than 20F, they are pretty much the same.
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In an endurance snowy, mountain road test. The 2023 Bolt beat all the more expensive (AWD) EVs. This included the Tesla!
I'm guessing the Kona has cubes showing in the instrument cluster in homage to the Transformers. They used Energon Cubes as a source of energy
Ok, but Bolt EUV or Niro?
I love my Kona but I do hate how they hobble the infotainment system in the SEL but then even looking at the higher trim, it's only slightly better and that's mostly because of the navigation. Hyundai needs a major overhaul of their interfaces.
Once I found out Hyundai is offering a $7500 rebate on lease for a '23 Kona, I feel like it kind of makes it a no brainer, even without the tax credit...
I think the new Kona is hideous. Like every other new Hyundai SUV. The 2023 looks way better.
Bought a new BOLT EUV. Waiting for it to be made……..my son owns a 2017 Chevy Bolt…… ever a problem. His battery pack had no problems, they replaced it anyway! Chevy is the new leader in electric cars. The Chevy Bolt is like the VW Bug, every body’s electric car.
I love Chevrolet bolt❤️
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I would think any compact cars/SUVs/trucks will have issue driving next to a semi.
dude. KONA was fully changed last month;;
Corolla Hybrid sedan please.... for less money.
We just filmed a Corolla hybrid review yesterday! Look for it in a few weeks, thanks for watching!
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video however Im enjoying my kia EV6
Nice
Can you please check the heating systems in both of these EV's? While comparing electricity usage is good, how does the actual air vent temperature heat compare? How fast does it get warm/usable air from the vents?
Here is my experience with the 2023 Kona EV heat.....It isn't good.
My wife and I are on our 2nd 2023 Kona EV! Trust me, not because we want to. Let me explain... Bought the first one in December and wife reported issues with heat not working. They couldn't immediately reproduce but eventually did and after replacing the entire heater control assembly (as per tech line) they obtained the same results . They checked fuses, disabled the system open 40AMP fuse and after all that, said the car was defective and they would trade that in for the same 2023 Kona EV. They provided us another brand new, same make/model/color, and after 62 miles with the new car, the service manager verified "No Heat - Same as their trade in".
So, they call in a regional "EV Expert" and he says, "at this time heat working as designed". He also said "in the cold weather pre-heat the vehicle for 1/2 hour with this procedure" (procedure never provided).
So, I ran my own tests and uploaded the videos to youtube. th-cam.com/play/PL7Lcm9IY-sZ-r_6wE2RKStjK4C9Rzf3Z2.html
You can see how unpredictable and unacceptable the heating system is in the 2023 Kona EV's!
Based on what I've learned, @hyundai is using sub-standard heating systems in the USA. Why? I can only think the range of the vehicle wouldn't look as good if they used a better heating system (like they already do in Canada).
My 2021 bolts AC is much better than its heater
It would be nice to see a comparison with the 2024 one, much bigger and better charging
I wish that GM would offer an analog instrument cluster. Maybe in a software update.
Bolt is better, but once the 2024 Kona is released, it will be the top pick.
Bolt is better priced, but the Kona is definitely the better vehicle. Especially when it comes to charging speeds. 75kwh compared to 50kwh. Those 25W makes a difference. It's also more efficient. I also prefer the infotainment, dashboard, and interior on the Kona. That's all personal preference though.
You should be charging at home, not relying on expensive DC chargers...
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I charge at home, it makes no dif to me @@isaiah123456wp7
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Hyundai Kona EV 2023 great car
chevy is junk
Naaaayyee
I have both and the Kona is far and away the better all round car. I absolutely love that thing😊
main difference is heat pump! in winter it’s very important and it has only kona
I would try a Plug In Hybrid first then electric!
Well, I like my ‘21 bolt. I wouldn’t mind a newer one. Even if they are the better priced, I still can’t afford it. I will wait another year. But yea, I do want another Bolt. 😊
kona less problems, and if you're living in an area that has a cold winter, that range drops a lot.
Reviewers pushing for BIG cars are awful. So tired of reviewers driving smaller cars out of the market. Completely stupid.
Sponsored by Chevrolet!? The Kona is better in every way as an electric car. Not sure why you bothered comparing this Kona now that it's literally about to be replaced in a few months.
Sour grapes much? The Kona felt like a cheap rental car in comparison, and the back seat is rude lol.
@@Porsche996driverthis is a biased review, the Kona is clearly the better car, which is why it outsells the Bolt. The new Kona has just be named car of the year.
P.S anyone who publicly states they drive a Porsche almost definitely don't...
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Both are great, but the Bolt wins
The new study shows that the Bolt actually has 240 horse power.
I'd take the Kona, but it doesn't qualify for the federal tax credit, which can be a big difference if you qualify.
Hyundai is offering a $7500 rebate on the 23' Kona on a lease, fyi...
@@ColH0m3r Leases are scams.
great to see a video with the soon to be replaced Kona. Still thinks she looks great and can't wait to see if the 23 is much better than the 22 or if going for the old one will be a good deal. :)
It's strange world where you have the Bolt and in most of the rest of the world we have the MG4. I wonder how it would come out if you put those two side by side.
Much of the appeal of the Bolt is that it is manufactured and primarily sourced in the U.S. -- along with the current $7500 income tax credit. The credit makes it even more affordable and comparable to ICE cars in price, so aside from not having any service infrastructure stateside, the MG4 would have a lot of hurdles being marketed here. Performance wise it would definitely be an interesting comparison head to head.
Where is Forrest Jones? Y'all booted him?
Kona ev best.
You can get the $7500 (for now) on a Kona EV Lease. That's assuming you can find a Kona EV.
as far as i am aware you cannot as of jan 1 23. you have to make less than a certain $ depending on filing status for the bolt. chevy will install a quick charger for up to $1,000. crazy good deal.
They will actually cover any amount if installation is considered 'standard'
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Ev market crashing. I didn't qualify for the used rebate but i still managed to get A red line fully loaded EUV i try going for the kona as a second opinion but the dealership let me walked away they could care less about working a deal very bad taste after walking away i when online n found a deal for the 2023 EuV red edition fully loaded for 26000 with 2971
miles.
This dude gives off Kyle Mooney from snl vibes.
you forgot to mention that while the fast charging is putrid on the bolt it has 10kw ac charging so if you charge at home its much faster than the konas 7.2kw but yeah road trips with the bolt are gonna suck. even the kona is marginal - most evs charge at 120kw or 220kw so buyer beware!
Kona is better .
I wish the Nissan Leaf could have made it to this butter knife fight.
Spoon fight, sorry.
-31 driving technique?! just thrashing the little bolt lol
You seen that too hey 😂
wish chevy would relax their dc charging rate. it just software limited. this what happened when you allow lawyer to dictates technology usage. it is not the battery and hardware that is limiting the bolt-euv.
This comparison is a joke. Chevy Bolt, all the way. Why? Because if you're looking for an EV right now, and you're Middle Class, it's literally the ONLY option out there. One, you *will* find them on Chevy dealers' lots. Two, the mark-ups are actually reasonable. Three, Chevy's EV tech is good enough. Is Hyundai/KIAs tech better? Yes! And good frickin' luck trying to find any of their EV offerings on any of their dealer lots at the time of the making of this video.
Come to southern Ontario Canada these models are on selected dealers. I have the kia EV6 😄
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Perfect example: _Selected Dealers._ In America the Bolt is on every Chevy dealers lot.
Kona EV - "In Transit"
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Exactly... In transit to various KIA dealers, eventually.
There are literally 10 on one single car lot in RI right now.
They're not lookers!!!! Not they're not meant to be. The idea behind those 2 is to be affordable and targeting customers that don't give a shit about looks and to compete with other cars.
I think they both look good
You said Super cruise is not an option on the 2023 bolt euv.....um .... your driving one that has it.
To clarify, Cliff said "it's not even a $3,000 option on the Bolt EUV", meaning it costs less than $3,000. Clearly this Bolt EUV has it since he's voicing over the demo of the feature. Thanks for watching!
This guy talks about EV's like he's never owned one. Secondly he barely touches on one pedal driving and how much better it is versus using your friction brakes 🙄
Chevy Bolt EUV all day long
Good, nice
I like
MG4 - that is better!
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How the f*ck did that Kona charge port make it past meetings and the final design? Seriously who thought it looked ok? It’s not centered, it’s asymmetric, and it sticks out like a sore thumb, completely ruining the aesthetics of the vehicle.
It’s like Hyundai DOESN’T want to sell EV’s.
Bolt is ev version of the chevy trax
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Ev manufacturers and dealers are saying ev batteries are safe, ? ... kind of reminds me of tobacco producers saying the same thing about their products,.... we all know how that turned out !! Manufacturers will say anything to make a sale... Get out of the EV market while you can, it's not safe !
Hahaha, you have to be kidding. You've been driving around in a Molotov cocktail on wheels worried about EV batteries? If I recall correctly, fires happen about 1,000 times more frequently in ICE cars than EVs.
As it happens, there's another big safety difference between EV and ICE. EVs consistently outperform ICE vehicles in crash tests. The latest IIHS test of mid sized SUV rear passenger safety showed the top two are Mustang Mach E and Tesla Model Y, with about 15 different ICE models bringing up the rear.
@@davidmenasco5743 Sounds like you have been listening to a EV salesperson. They will tell you anything to make a sale... young unknowing buyers are an easy sell !
If it's Lithium or Lithium base or like most rechargeables.. Beware !
Here you go, in plain English
Lithium batteries are regulated as a hazardous material under the U.S. Department of Transportation's (DOT) Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 C.F.R., Parts 171-180).
Exposure to Lithium can cause loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea and abdominal pain. ► Lithium can cause headache, muscle weakness, twitching, blurred vision, loss of coordination, tremors, confusion, seizures and coma.
This isn't for me or my family.
Good luck, with your so called .. clean energy !
@@davidmenasco5743 Big business thinks of people as sheep, it's easy to steer people in the direction you want, with just a few persuasive claims. Foolish people are followers
@@highvoltage3479 this might be the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen
Nonsense on EVs being so dangerous because of the battery. I happen to know a lot more about lipo batteries than most. I fly racing/freestyle quadcopters with lipo batteries. I took the time to learn about the good and bad of these batteries. I regularly crash into trees and the ground going 60+ mph and I've never had a fire because they are protected by a 3D printed cover. Battery fires are caused by being damaged or improperly charged. EV cars take care the charging so that they are not overcharged and are much better protected than my quadcopter batteries. As a former fireman, I can tell you that ICE cars catch on fire too.
The interior is slightly nicer but you haven't show us the interior
Did you watch the video? The interior of both cars is featured extensively.
@@venncreativemedia I did. Maybe I missed that some how? But either way couldn't afford either one anyway
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2.5hrs to charge? Super heavy vehicles? Unpredictable in changing weather conditions? Cheap plastics in still somewhat expensive cars? 🤔 Thankful for ICE engines.
Compared to a Tesla they both suck!!!
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And now GM is discontinuing the EUV. Nice GM!