How Colonial Singapore got to be so Chinese
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2024
- Singapore’s ethnic Han majority has had major influence in its history. And for a while I wondered how it came to be this way.
In this video I am going to talk about how Singapore got to be so Han Chinese and at the same time get into some of the wild and wooly early years of the Singapore colony.
This video is dedicated to my good Singaporean friends Chris and QQ.
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The reason why the Malays refused to work for the British is because it was considered as an act of treachery . The Brits had already imposed heavy tax on us and colonized us , working for them would be like us completely succumbing to their rule.
Refusal of the malay to join the british workforce has resulted in the brits to bring in more immigrant to do their hard labor and it leads to current multicultural society of Malaysia and Singapore
I enjoyed this video, and it was informative, but I do have one observation, which is the minimal mention of Malaya/Malaysia. My understanding is that during the 19th century Singapore was seen very much as part of the overall British colonial enterprise in what was then called Malaya, and Chinese immigrants went to places in Malaya, e.g. Penang, Malacca, and the Kuala Lumpur/Klang region, as much as they did to Singapore (and for the same reasons). My understanding is that by 1950 there was a Han majority in all of these areas, though not in Malaya/Malaysia as a whole. In British Malaya the Han were never a majority (I understand) and at the present time are about 25% of the population of Malaysia. It was only the separation of Singapore from Malaysia in 1965 that left it in its present unique position.
It’s surprising to me that the population before the war was 800k, that means that the majority of Singaporean Chinese adults do not have grandparents born in Singapore
My paternal grandparents came from China in the 1950's, but my maternal side of the family had been in Singapore for at least 5 generations. None of us know when my maternal ancestor came to Singapore from China. Your video helped to scope the date to probably no earlier than 1830s.
PS: My maternal great-grandfather was a Secret Society member (family legend claims "leader") in the early 1900s.
Thanks for posting this. I've always wanted to learn more about Singapore.
I really appreciate how thoughtful and carefully researched your videos are.
I’ve visited Singapore many times and I love everything about it. Especially the food. If I didn’t live so far from Singapore, (I live in southern Europe) I would visit Singapore at least 4 times a year.
With love, from Portugal
Always thought about this question as a Singapore born Chinese.
Nicely done!
Love this! Singaporean here!
I M M I G R A T I O N
Just wanted to say that I really enjoy your videos! I was born and raised in Malaysia but from Scotland originally. Find your videos interesting! Would love to know your look on world politics?
Thanks for watching. I don’t have a view on world politics. I just make videos about stuff I’m interested in.
A fascinating video
Very informative report. The Chinese government has studied for several decades the meritocracy and authoritarian form of governance of Singapore. PM Lee K. Yew ideas on government, economics and international relations were also important to China's leaders. The modern city-state Central Business District, the urban and housing planning and Singapore's beautiful garden-city parks are a model to Chinese major cities.
Breathtaking culture and an exceptional people.
Xoxo from Chicago, USA
The Communists take over of the mainland in 1949 was also one of the substantial factors that discouraged the Chinese immigrants from returning back.
Do you have any idea on why, when the US made legislation that limited the immigration of Japanese there, many chose to go to Brazil, while no similar movement happened with the Chinese?
Bro.... My grandparents all spoke multiple languages. Teo chew/ hokkien/ Cantonese/ bahasa malaya? Even my parents born in the 40s spoke conversational singlish.
I have no idea about their reading and writing ability thou lolx.
British bring so many Chinese to Tamasek, now Singapore.
Great video
Love from Singapore!
The han chinese have been in Malaya and Singapore since the 15th century.
great to know, but the 2nd time han Chinese was slaves to the British after the qing Dynasty sold out which started the 1911 Sat Yat sen Qing war..
I don't get why people would "think" or assume Singapore is part of China.. I suppose it's partly due to the problem with how the word "Chinese" has become so convoluted in today's mainstream discourse that people simply assume "Chinese" is inextricably tied to nationality and the CCP... maybe, i don't know
“ Singa”来自梵语siṃha（सिंह），意为“狮子”，而pura（पुर）则为梵语中的“镇”，在许多印度地名中都是常见的后缀。梵文的起源是由于印度的Chola国王（讲泰米尔语）对地区的影响，但他们更倾向于使用梵文作王室和宗教头衔。森林中的“ Simha”（狮子是森林之王），“ pura”是寺庙或宗教场所。新加坡（Singapore）是来自海外华人的版本，与“ Forestcity”类似。森林为绿色，城市为“ pura”。 pura一词是梵语中最古老的“城市”一词，在Rigveda（印度教的四种经典神圣文本之一）中经常提及。
Yes please keep talking about us
History of Singapore, in the early days, 101. Thank you
Good research work kid.
I wouldnt call these dialects. They are separate languages. Cantonese is very different from hokkienese. British and Scottish English are examples of dialects of the same language. They use 80% of the words and Brit can understand a Scot talking to him (just with a little difficulty because of slight pronunciatiin differences or a slight difference in grammar).
Just unpopular opinion: I think your voice sounds similar to the narrator from Economic Explained Channel.
Let's Life Peacefully. Don't let Outside Bad Influenced Corrupt Your Mind. Stay Calm,Have Empathy & Respect All Faiths.
Good!
1:12 "second most densely populated large country" hmmm that is the first time I have ever heard Singapore called a large country. As to how to annoy a SIngaporean just tell them isn't Singapore part of Malaysia, not part of China? Kind of like telling a Kiwi that NZ is part of Australia, a Canadian that they are part of the USA etc.
Every video talking about singapore are mainly watched by singaporeans
wow liow !
Are you collabing with Geography Now who's just about to drop his Singapore video tomrrow
Haha, no I am not. Just a funny coincidence.
hello!
Well done
Singapore is in the middle of the Malay Archipelago. South East Asians are brown skin indigenous people
I think that the Chinese immigration especially to south-east-Asia has began even before the Ming's Dynasty Admiral Zheng He arrived in Melaka more than 500 years ago. What happen next is the flow of capital from China which then lead to the massive migration you talked about. These capital creates employment and opportunity. To me, migration is more about economic opportunity rather than because of starvation or political upheaval. The colonialization of SEA by western power also happen because of these Chinese capital who colluded with them in order to explore the economic opportunity provided here.
@@kembarra5865 Don't act stupid, racist and fascist when commenting without proper facts. Melaka, Johor and Singapore has always been poor when compared to its neighbours like Java or Sumatera who until today are rich in vegetation and people. The Riau islands is just some patches of "insignificant small fishing village" and it doesn't have or need a political system like your so-called sultanate which also come into existence during the time of the colonial powers and that also included the Ming Dynasty. The demand for Chinese porcelain, silk and tea from the west is what fuel this passion and desire for western powers to come and colonised South-East-Asia. This dangerous passion which had caused many conflicts in the past still exist until today. However the location had moved from the Strait of Melaka to the South China Sea. SO PLEASE LISTEN HERE WHEN MAKING FUTURE COMMENT: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE MALAY SEA.
@@yaibanking , 但是，这里有南中国海，大中华地区的历史在与西方婆罗洲苏丹共同探索婆罗洲的兰坊共和国成立时记录下来。 但是，荷兰人击败了他们，婆罗洲可能与南中国海和新加布尔共和国（新加布尔）成为共和国，并返回中国。 香港和澳门的典范。
新加布尔=Singapore
I see you've upgraded from jump cuts to transitions.
Just trying new stuff. Don’t think it’ll stick. Syncing it to audio was a disaster.
I have always been very proud of Singapore.
Last time I was this early Singapore was just a insignificant village
*FISHING village
Whitewashing Pulau Ujong's history
@@spartand001 Every coastal village with a dork is a fishing village
Frienemy sounds about right
Once a proud Malay state of Temasik. the birth place of Malacca sultanate founder. in its A day, even the emperor got nothing on the sultan. before colonizer screw things up. and the traders ain't majority what ya'll talking. 😂 my grandpa works there in the 60s. the majority is still malay at the time. soldiers and other officers was dominated by who.? you figured. plus, their greatest warrior is Lieutenant Adnan. definitely not a chinese. damn, this made up history ya'll been reading is hilarious. completely against old malay scriptures and local studies. keep living in a delusion. history stand as what it is
HAHA Frenemy so true
I was born in the wrong century.
That’s why Singapore is not a part of Malaysia.
British bought this island from Malaysia lah noob !
@@garylee5054 Malaysia was formed on 16 September 1963 by the merger of the Federation of Malaya with the former British colonies of North Borneo, Sarawak and Singapore. This marked the end of a 144-year British rule in Singapore which began with the founding of modern Singapore by Stamford Raffles in 1819.
The union was volatile and unstable due to distrust and ideological differences between the leaders of Singapore and of the federal government of Malaysia. They often disagreed about financial, political and racial policies, as well as how to develop the country as a whole.
These culminated in the decision by Malaysian Prime Minister Tunku Abdul Rahman to expel Singapore from the Federation, and on 9 August 1965, Singapore became the first and only modern country to date to declare independence largely unwillingly.
It was because LKY aggressively pushed for the Malaysian Malaysia Model (which Tengku hated) & Interfered the General Election in KL and they have won a sit in the Parliment. LKY promised Tengku not to contest in the GE just after the merger but LKY goes against his promises.
If I were LKY, I would have waited for more years when businesses get intertwined between MY&SG only then to push for the Malaysian Malaysia Model and it will become a Success!
Too bad LKY was too rush. That's why he got expelled from the Federation of Malaysia.
@@garylee5054 It is easier to say than done 😂
Go look at google map lah. According to History this tiny sg dot was a tiny dog fur peel out of Malaysia.
The malays are nice people. They allowed Han Chinese to form a nation in the most important area in the vMalay world. The Han Mainland Chinese would never give independece to the Han Chinese Hong Kong.
Hello.
So many videos about our Singapore nowadays....
Isit a sign for us to choose sides in the upcoming world war?
Now hear me out OK? When I first arrived in Singapore I hated it for the first few days. After going to places like Vietnam and Cambodia it just didn't feel right. But by the middle of my two weeks there I started to appreciate that they had a different sort of thing going on. And by the end of my two weeks I was looking forward to going back to check out a few places I didn't have time to see.
Chinese are always been seen as “good workers” even as now. Such impression and discrimination must be changed. Chinese people now are richer, more powerful and united.
Well it's a melting pot just like anywhere else place..but always manage to stabilize and keep the harmony going on.
nah Fujian and guangdong immigrants have nothing to do with Taiping rebellion or boxer rebellion or yellow river flooding...these are thousands miles away...it has only to do with the over population in their home provinces as well as landlords owning existing land
Alot of wealthy families migrated to Hongkong from Taiping rebellion. Hongkong was a much more desolate place, before that(fishing village).
@@affalee8216 yeah we're talking about migration to singapore here
@@niuchajianfa6222 some probably did migrate to Singapore.
Not as outrageously as it affected Hongkong, though.
@@affalee8216 yes but the number would be too small to be worth mentioning...also, it doesn't make sense for rich Chinese back then to go so far away from home to be a semi slave in nanyang
@@niuchajianfa6222 i'm not aware of details regarding singapore's taiping rev intake of migrants. Maybe rich could afford to subsist in hongkong. Poorer folks made do elsewhere? No idea.
What I do know, is someone told me peranakans(Ming) heavily looked down upon Chinese migrants(Qing period), to southeast asia.
But I find that understandable, considering gulf between those 2 dynasties.
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Just as well you said nice things, otherwise you would be sue by the government.
No one has monopoly on one historical truth, it depends who you ask for their version of what happened historically.
I dont know what you mean by friendnemy.
Singapore is located in the Malay , archipelago.
Not even mighty China in the 13th, 14th, 15th century had ever claimed any of the lands in the archipelago , but always had friendly trade trading relations,
CHINESE always wanted to return to the motherland after making enough .
10:17
"Singapore is the only Han majority nation outside of china..."
Taiwan: Um, hello?
It depends if you see Taiwan as a independent nation. Same as if you see North Korea and South Korea as two independent nations.
Bet due to Singapore is controlled by Chinese, lot wealthy oversea Chinese feel comfortable to emigrated there to hide their wealth, do business so easy become wealthy too that make Singapore so rich. Isn’t it?
That's definitely not the reason😂😂 Do yourself a favour and learn more about economics and history (I'm too lazy to explain to u)
Singapore is a multi-racial country, I'm truly disgusted of your ignorance comment.
Singapore is basically a Han Chinese colony, it's rulers has been Han for generations...
@@EroticOnion23 Nope, Singapore was a British colony. 😂😂😂 Well, for our government, as long as they are not corrupted, we are okay with having any race to be our government👍🏻
Kinda, but not exactly. More like the overseas rich felt themselves more comfortable in Singapore. Probably from accomodations and arrangements in Singapore. Not only Chinese rich either.
Being Chinese to understand needs, helps......but due to controlled by chinese....?
Not Quite right I'd say
My oldest son speaks fluent Mandarin now. I’m looking for additional countries (besides mainland China and Taiwan) that speak majority Mandarin as well.
Thank you in advance for any good suggestions.🌸🌺🙏🏻
Pretty sure Taiwan is also Han majority.
Singapore is a blend of East and West. Eastern family cohesion and Western business efficiency.
Alternate title: “How Singapore got kicked out of Malaysia.”
Oof
This is very interesting. I don’t think most young Chinese in Singapore know that they are ‘Han’ Chinese or whatever that is.
You are right. The concept of "Han" is only used in China and Taiwan.
Hokkien hakka cantonese teochew all are sub-han. There is no pure han left. closest to pure han is tibetan.
interesting theory
wow. even with Malay biasness. That's a long standing conflict. Soo probably should leave it out. It's in poor taste...
Most important of Singapore progress is racial harmony.
We are all Singaporean first, regardless of race.
They are lucky to be kinda far from the PROC’s grasp.
Not at all. Singapore is and was never a part of China, and the Chinese have no interests in claiming us. Our geographical location does little to change that. Quit sowing discord with our largest trading partner.
@@endeliggnist5066 I never said Singapore was a part of China. I was jokingly implying that China would claim Singapore if it were geographically close to it.
>Southern China
>Han people
Aren't they Yue people?
All that doesnt matter anymore.....46% of the population today are foreign born entities....
The true blue Singaporeans that u know and speak of that dwelled on this island from 1819 to 2000s are slowly being driven to extinction,irrelevancy and annihilation......in a genocide or holocaust started by PAP and LHL a mere 15 years ago.....
The people who build this country up from nothing when this island was no more than jungle and a sparse fishing village to a vibrant asian first world city by the end of the 90s are now being put to pasture.
By 2030 Singaporeans will comfortably be a minority in their country.....by 2050 we might be an endangered species......
Goodbye old Singapore goodbye
Fun fact: Southern Chinese/overseas Chinese are not ethnic Han Chinese (Huaxia people)(Di-Qiang people) hahaha 🤣🤣
San Francisco is Singapore’s drug addicted older brother who had potential but lost it due to bad decisions.
Why can’t the west create such a high trust society
singapore is advanced due to high iq and productive chinese . Race and culture matter.
We the Chinese in South East Asia have been, and will always be the best!
The only han majority nation outside of "Greater CHina"? Why? Doen't Taiwan count as a seperate nation? And if not and if Singaporeans are majorily descended from Cantonese and u, couldn't you argue that they aren't actually Han people? Also, they didn't speak different dialects of chinese, they spoke different chinese languages.