Omg for real. It was giving overzealous pastor in church healing people by smacking their foreheads. These kinds of people just seem like total bullshitters to me. They’re not “funny” or “insightful” they just know how to bullshit the money form your pocket.
Being Catholic I have an entirely different perspective of what “church” looks like. But I’ve seen how American evangelical churches are on TV and on the internet and now that I think of it, it doeees all look like a motivational lecture but with things about Jesus sprinkled throughout ahahah
Very disrespectful of him. Assuming she isn’t capable of doing her literal job. If she wasn’t capable she wouldn’t be a loan officer. I’m sure the bank wouldn’t put an idiot in charge of loans.
If you're actually King Dick at business, you don't have to talk to some random at a bank, they give you a dedicated contact. So this means he's either full of shit, or he's a wannabe.
telling your loan officer “sweetie, you don’t understand what we do. i’m on a different level than you. just give me money now” seems like a great idea and definitely doesn’t make you seem like an insane white collar criminal and misogynist. is anyone surprised these guys didn’t advertise their women speakers event at all?
Yeah, he points to his expensive car as proof that he has money. To me it signals he’s in large amounts of bad debt. He should prove he’s paid the car in full, made gains on investments, or that he has diverse sources of income. Having a luxury car means nothing and can easily be rented to fake an image
i cant believe people find the "look at me" "clap" guy a personable speaker, just from those little clips amanda shared i am already tired and wrung out
I think she's in danger of falling down the rabbit hole tbh. I was surprised at how un-critical she was being of these type of tools. Everything about these conferences is a red flag and she said she likes these type of things for inspiration as an entrepreneur??? What.
I’m convinced people with money just don’t have high levels of discernment. Ain’t no way we are calling these people charismatic charmers based on these clips
@Dr.Quarexliterally. I work 4 days a week bc my job is insanely stressful. I could work more and ppl cannot understand why I don't - it's bc I can cover rent, going out with friends, and a vacation (albeit every two years lol). There is no material possession I want that is worth more than my extra day off 😂
The secret is that money isn't a filter for skill. There are many ways of earning money, especially if morals aren't an issue, yet we assume the way they present themselves is the way they earned it. Just because a successful person is running a bakery doesn't mean they became successful because of the bakery. This is why you see a lot of 'charismatic'people with no charisma. They didn't get the money appealing to people. They got the money and then got on the stage.
this conference feels like a scam that they're desperately trying to convince all the attendees is worth the fee despite not offering a lot of practical advice. the language they use at these is culty and weirds me out too. I just think the majority of these are a huge waste of time and a grift on entrepreneurs. Really insidious.
@@Bethany9513 No, you're definitely right. I'm doing my master in biology and while we don't get a ton of input on public speaking, it is a very important part you have to learn. You have to hold a lot of 20-30 min long talks completely in English (not being a native speaker), where you have to present really complex topics without glossing over important details, overexplaining/underexplaining or making it too flat. All while having to capture the interest of both other master students (who are almost completely new to that specific topic) and the professor (who read that paper more than once already). But when you actually want to convey information, not just emotion, you have to talk completely differently. We are always reminded to leave pauses so people can process what they heard. These guys talk way too quickly, and also with too loud of a voice, so that listening is not easy. The reason is probably that they don't want you to think too long about what they're actually saying. You're supposed to focus on the emotion and get swept up in it. If you printed every word they say on paper and read it at home, you'd not get much out of it. If you did it with any good scientific talk, you'd definitely still enjoy it and learn a lot.
At the very least it's all the same cadence. Like I could see how someone who either isn't used to it or is too used to it could be drawn in, but I grew up agnostic in the rural southern US. That shit activates my fight or flight. My public school would always have youth pastors or pastor-adjacent speakers speaking at assemblies and do it a few times a year. It was always a terrible experience, and often a bit scary because it's some guy in your non-religious school yelling at you about jesus and heaven and hell and shit and I just wanna go back to geometry. And of course debate-bros and evangelizers also use the same cadence when they're trying to "argue" (gish gallop) and exist outside of school assemblies. Makes me empathize with stereotypical jock bullies in 90's movies because nothing makes you want to shove a nerd into a locker more than a nerd who won't shut the fuck up and let you process information
I think it’s funny that the one talk you described as awkward and out of place sounds like the only talk I would have gotten anything “motivational” out of. Rich guys yelling at me to cut everyone with lower energy vibrations or whatever out of my life does nothing for me, a genuine sit-down conversation about finding your passion in life sounds kinda inspiring.
I get what she meant, that it's like a bit of a wet blanket over the rest of the talks, but I had the opposite perspective That guy was the only one I found tolerable, and he rly emphasized how phony everyone else seemed
Just listening to him talking about paystubs and "We're different" made me ill. So condescending. So much snake oil in his veins. I'm talking physically uneasy.
Especially considering he’s speaking to a banker, who deals with people applying for loans/mortgages and she’s never dealt with an entrepreneur or business owner before 🙄
She was just doing her job too 😮💨 She probably asks for financial information to everyone regardless of background. Homegirl just wanted to process his shit and have him leave already...
That one guy freaking out over giving the loan officer his tax returns because “it doesn’t look like he has money” is so 😭 I can assure you that she knows the difference between gross profit and taxable income my dude.
They want you exhausted so that you are more suggestible and willing to sign up for whatever “pay to play” event they are advertising. These conferences are almost always a large event trying to sell you a smaller more expensive event.
Common MLM tactic. Exhaust people then hype them up with the talk so they'll spend more money, do whatever you suggest, etc. No meals breaks usually or just some "coffee and snacks" b.s. Edit: I commented before I read the thread and realized someone said this before me lol
Cringe at that man telling his banker "you don't understand, im not like you, I don't do the pay cheque thing" is soo patronizing and rude. I've had clients try to pass of the whole "I have money bro, trust me" and my colleagues and I always have a good laugh. Some of the hardest clients to deal with lmao
The whole event feels like a Megachurch sermon. The Pastor at my parents' old church did the same thing: told people when to clap, constantly told them to look at him, ect. The name Aspire also made me think this was going to be a video where Amanda went to a religious event lol.
@@dismurrart6648Her trying to gauge interest in a potential Trovatrip was a mask slip. Meant she either didn't do research on it or didn't care about what's being said about it.
I completely zoned out during this video. These types of people remind me of cult leaders and they love the sound of their own voice more than actually saying meaningful things.
An anti-scam/anti-MLM youtuber has talked about having attended and worked backstage at events like this. She explained the reason they make them so long and only put their most popular speakers on at the very beginning and at the very end of the event is so that the middle can be filled with a bunch of snake oil salespeople, 'course' peddlers and all round scammers that paid the organisers to be featured (that's how the organisers make money from this event). You need to sit through their 'inspirational' talks if you want to get to your favourite act and the organisers often don't allow you to leave and come back to avoid you only showing up in the morning and in the evening. And at the end of the day when you're tired out of your mind or maybe even a bit pumped from some of these people telling you to "JUST DO IT!", you are more susceptible to sales pitches, so they swoop in and get you to sign up for some bullshit course. BOOM PROFIT!
@@louschwick7301 I think the thing is like, if you wanted to see particular speakers, you have no idea when their talk starts. So it'll be hard to know when to come back. I'm sure if I left one of these, I wouldn't come back tbh
Looking at something like this from outside of the world of business, 12 hours of inspirational speeches sounds like absolute hell. Honestly the thought of 2 hours of it makes my skin crawl
Hell, as someone from Inside the world of business, it still seems like Hell. Absolute gibberish bullshit with no actual value. These aren't Businessmen or Entrepreneurs, they are snake oil merchants
@@OllieAnxiousoh yeah no never do it for something like an orientation! 1+ week trainings only. And make sure you say “clap for yourselves” while you bow 😂
I had this playing in the background and for a second thought the algorithm brought me to the fundamentalist side of TH-cam accidentally. He speaks like a televangelist.
the audience literally laughs at any and everything. you just watched rich people , some with scam like personalities make poor/struggling/trying to survive people (which are most of us) the butt of the joke, as per usual. there’s no way that crowd is full of millionaires and billionaires, so the audience is self inflating their ego…by laughing at themselves and people just like them… crazy.
As a brazilian you see that every day, if someone works their way up and ends up having an overseas job they are likely to randomly come back DESPISING every brazilian and saying that our culture is trash, its insane
Sooo I'm getting a PhD in business and my research area is corruption and corporate malfeasance... these conferences are 100% scams. Grifters always seem charismatic and appealing (especially to a tired audience -- 7am start time is a clue), it's how they're able to complete the grift. I wouldn't put another on your schedule unless you really enjoy parting with your money.
Right? Imagine telling someone whose profession it is to look at someone's financial situation that they don't understand your financial situation. For all he knows, she has clients that make millions more than him. He was unnecessarily condescending.
i have no idea how you can enjoy going to events like this. just rich people yelling for no reason. "motivational speaking" will do nothing for your actual bank account
only two minutes in, and are these the type of conferences MLM huns will go to? so just the most basic and milquetoast motivational speeches, with some class hatred and romanticization of hella rich people?
Maybe it's because I'm Autistic, but like, do people actually get stuff out of this? It always seems like they're repeating basic crap that you'd read in an article called "How To Run Your Buisnesss Like a Boss" but surrounded by a lot of hot air.
A big part of it is just the atmosphere, it tricks attendees into thinking that they're getting more out of it then they really are. You might be sitting there excitedly hanging on their every word but then once you leave and actually start thinking about what they told you, you realize that its incredibly vacuous. They're hoping that by that point in time you've invested so much time, energy, and money into it that you will resist that realization and insist that you did get something out of it. Its all a grift. And its one that they back up with psychology and the same tricks that cults and churches have been refining for hundreds, even thousands, of years.
honestly, a lot of people are tricked into enjoying events like this because the speakers heighten the audiences emotions, they may say things that are broadly applicable to Living As A Human Person, but they say it in a way that people experience as a revelation because events like this try to bombard the senses to overwhelm ones ability to think clearly and rationally. its the same with how many cult leaders are or were considered charismatic, they say something that cant really be considered false but they also say it with conviction and play on the emotions of the people around them
Listening to the clips that dude is completely the opposite of what I would find charismatic, saying a whole lotta words to say very little, speak/screaming, asking for clapping, I would've just left. But hey that's just me. Great video nonetheless!
@@louschwick7301 Maybe to someone who is used to US-christian pastors? Only those talk like that, in my experience. Or maybe cult leaders. But to me charisma is someone you want to follow or be like or someone who could get you motivated to do something, you want to listen to. He was not any of that. Even this small clip was just exhausting. Trying to filter his speech for anything substantial is annyoing because he is way too loud. In the end I just thought there is nothing I can learn from him, because it all seems empty.
@@Tessa_Gr oh i agree, i thoroughly hated the guy, its just charisma as per my definition isnt necessarily likability, its mostly energy and crowd control. i think hes likable for a certain type of person, ie, the kind that would WANT to go to these business bs share sessions that exist for some reason
Ew, the ego-filled conservative red-pill masculing energy oozing from that event is a major ick. I wish all these "inspirational" speakers held the same amount of energy for community-building, empathy, charity, and philanthropy as they do for the "money game," hustle culture, material items, and tax write offs.
What that guy did asking people to look at him and clap is a church thing.. some churches here have entire courses to train on how to speak and engage the audience in order to receive the most amount of donations..
I was instantly put off by the fact that the Tim Story guy seemed exactly like the cult indoctrination men I was forced into watching/listening to as a child. Instant swerve, as I got enough of that PTSD-inducing insanity growing up.
I genuinely dont feel like events like this actually benefit people. Everyone just spends an ungodly amoutn of money to go to motivational event after event and dont get any personalized advice. Its always just felt kinda scammy.
Sorry but I can't see any value in any of these things. Especially that clip with Andrew talking about the bank stuff, dude's just talking about insulting and belittling a laborer for his own benefit.
I've literally never understood these seminar things. The only feeling I get when I think about them is "Oh, boy. I can't wait to spend 500$ on this rich guys 'workshop' when I could do any other more useful thing with it, like put it in a savings account, or pay a guy to come amputate my arms and legs with an olive fork, which would take just as long, but be less painful."
The guy who told the crowd to clap... It honestly sounds like a very common thing I've heard preachers do. A lot of "put your hands together," "Clap one more time," let's make some noise" etc is not unheard of in a pulpit. Granted, this was not a pulpit, but I have definitely heard special motivational speaker guests say the same things in pulpits.
Having been to several business conferences with my husband featuring key note speaker, motivational speakers, etc. I would NEVER voluntarily attend something like this, let alone PAY to attend.
crazy how much america loves these motivational talks. They made us watch them in my UK school and it was always a loud American. It's interesting because most of these talks aren't even about anything specifically American... except the way most of them focus on the american dream "work your way up" sort of lifestyle I guess? Hearing there is an entire event just for these speeches in the US is so funny to me.
I’m sorry but having people show up shortly after 6am to an event that’s scheduled to go until 7pm and is meant to be energizing and motivational is wild. No one can be “on” for over 12 hours
Maybe I’m just a spiteful person, but if someone kept telling me to look at them and clap I’d find it extremely irritating and refuse to do either. It also seems very desperate. Reminds me of Tywin’s line, “A king that needs to say “I am the king” is no true king”.
It’s very easy to create “motivational” content that can feel very powerful in the moment, but is actually just fluff and nonsense. Evidence based personal development is awesome but requires research, testing things out, complex matrices etc. The more expensive, the less valuable in many cases
Amanda, I say this with love but if you are ever in a room like this again - locate the exits and run. This is cult programming tactics. The fact you weren’t ranting against this makes me think you’ve been in LA too long.
FYI If you want more this: 11:47-12:12, you can get it at your average Black Pentecostal church. Source: I got my fair share of this at least 3x a week growing up. “Can I get a clap” = “Can I get an amen/Yall don’t hear me now” If I had any advice for that guy it would be to as for “a little clap” ala Very Important People from Dropout.
Tim: They can't stab you in the back if you don't let them on the inside. What? Literally anyone outside of a circle can stab you in the back, your argument is terrible and so are you.
Yeah even as a metaphor that just straight up bad He could just say something about poisoning but I guess that type of personality doesn't understand anything but direct aggression
It would have made sense if he said "they can't stab you in the back if you never turn it to them" or something like that. Like saying don't just trust anyone. But that is total bs. I think he didn't understand what that actually means. He's just saying words without any thinking involved, I fear.
@@Tessa_GrHe's awkwardly mixing a bunch of 'motivational' buzzphrases, so with the persuasive, rapid-fire pitch he's doing, the audience is going to understand what he means and react to it even though it doesn't actually make sense. He's mixing up the concept that being close with people means vulnerability, and it's vulnerable to not have someone in your line of sight. So it's the idea of being selective with who you're close enough to that no one who would abuse it is able to hurt you where you're vulnerable. On its own, that ends up being solid advice, but motivation-bros turn it into justifying an echo chamber. If people aren't supporting your dreams (aka if they question whether what you're doing is healthy/fiscally-wise/legal), they're in your way and you don't need that in your life. It's a very cult-y thing MLMs and some businesses do to get people to double down instead of questioning things
10:58 not sure about that one, chief. I hear that commonly told in mlm motivational speeches in order to brainwash their victims not listen to any sort of set-backs/criticisms because "it's just haters" I think you were way too nice to this conference. This conference just sounds like those mlm motivational conferences or those uplifting psas they make teenagers watch. Just a waste of money for the most basic information that you can easily find in Dhar Mann
I can tell you why the event started at 7 am and went all day, because you can not keep up your critical thinking skills, if you are sleep deprived and/or have been paying attention for hours on end. You not getting an iternerary is to keep you there all day and to take away your control over your schedule at the event. The speakers didn't ask the audience to clap for their own benefit, but for the psychological effect. Even when you know you are told to clap, subconsciously you will absorb everyone else clapping and get the impression everyone else is impressed. This event has it all, in-group out-group thinking, rules don't apply to us, inducing fomo etc etc. As someone who is interested in cult manipulation tactics, because they were once used on me, I would have had a field day there with the BITE model in hand ticking a good amount of the boxes. Oh an fun fact: These "very successfull" speakers being horrible to listen to is part of it too. The audience is supposed to think, that the speakers are so successfull they fully make up for being an uncharismatic frat boy type, who thinks his misogyny meets tax fraud anecdote is a fun and insightfull story. And if you just join our cult ah program I mean, you too will be so successfull, people will listen to you through your good awfull admissions of federal tax crimes!
I was duped into a ugly cheap shirt that just says "human" by a very good speaker at a key club convention when I was in highschool and I could not remember the contents nor why I spent $30 on that once I returned home...this sounds like that but on crack.
How are these people any different from MLM boss babes? Educating people by making motivational speeches, who then learn to give motivational speeches to other gullible people? No value added to the world whatsoever.
The one thing I've definitely learned from going down the proverbial rabbit hole of motivational classes/events is that if there's a permanent discount, it's not a discount. That's just the price, and they're trying to manipulate people's psychology into thinking they have to act fast to get the 'deal,' or that they actually saved money by spending money. That somehow they got in while the getting was good and are special or savvy somehow. It's a con. The last one I encountered wasn't even discounted. They just hid their regular prices from public view and then claimed it was a 60% discount when it wasn't discounted at all. They literally pitched it as "our New Year's gift to you" when all they did was hand people an empty box and charge them for the wrapping paper. Another one I've seen is the "introductory" half-off flash sale for a new course that makes it seem like it's way more expensive than it actually is when the 'sale' price is already way overpriced compared to the value you get from it, and the sale never actually ends. So this event's "sale" on ticket prices is a big ol' red flag to me.
I hate that so much. Went to the doctor the other day and he did some tests. When he came back in the room he just said "clap". Like, you're doing your job I'm not going to applaud you.
Personally I can't sit through motivational speeches because I'm too aware that the speaker is trying to persuade me into believing what they're selling using emotional/anecdotal based examples that aren't always relevant to others. So I spend the entire time mentally ripping the persuasive speech to shreds
A speaker/performer calls for applause as an energy-meter tactic. Any talk of >10 minutes is a long one for an audience to be parked in their seats for; and a smart speaker puts little "energy/ engagement checks" into his talk at intervals, to know when to push and when to ride the energy that's already there. Sometime, when you're at one of these kind of events, watch only the crowd instead; it's a good learning experience.
Motivational speaker Mary Morrison did the same thing with the tables and they were asking a couple thousand dollars, line was long with credit cards out. It feels like religion without the gods.
Hearing rich men talk for hours on end sounds like a terrible day ngl
It sounds like one of those "motivational" conferences that MLMs boss babes insist their downlines need to go to
Omg for real. It was giving overzealous pastor in church healing people by smacking their foreheads. These kinds of people just seem like total bullshitters to me. They’re not “funny” or “insightful” they just know how to bullshit the money form your pocket.
YEah it looks like a mega church service but just leaving out "god" and "jesus"
The podcast Oh No Ross and Carrie did a briliant episode on this with Tony Robbins, what a scam. The podcast is so funny though, well worth a listen!
They talk so much but say so little, most of it is just good feels...
I was about to say she should do one of those 🤣 because she wouldn't drink their Kool aid
The clip of the man speaking: that’s a church tactic. Took me right back to church. And made me angry, lol.
Agreed. Extremely off putting.
SAME
I was like… this guy is just preaching
Lmao. I thought she ended up at church.
Being Catholic I have an entirely different perspective of what “church” looks like. But I’ve seen how American evangelical churches are on TV and on the internet and now that I think of it, it doeees all look like a motivational lecture but with things about Jesus sprinkled throughout ahahah
Please clap.
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Jeb lost the presidency over that, and this guy is soaking up millions.
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The arrogance of telling a woman at the bank that you're not like her and that she wouldn't understand your tax returns is pretty astounding.
I get it as a comedy bit, but like ... im rly curious who was laughing with the performance vs who was laughing at ut
Seriously he sounded sooooo insufferable in that clip
Very disrespectful of him. Assuming she isn’t capable of doing her literal job. If she wasn’t capable she wouldn’t be a loan officer. I’m sure the bank wouldn’t put an idiot in charge of loans.
If you're actually King Dick at business, you don't have to talk to some random at a bank, they give you a dedicated contact. So this means he's either full of shit, or he's a wannabe.
This is smells like a prosperity gospel tent revival with all of the Jesus spraypainted over.
100% - That Tim guy was loud & obnoxious
telling your loan officer “sweetie, you don’t understand what we do. i’m on a different level than you. just give me money now” seems like a great idea and definitely doesn’t make you seem like an insane white collar criminal and misogynist. is anyone surprised these guys didn’t advertise their women speakers event at all?
Literally sounds like an MLM
Yeah, he points to his expensive car as proof that he has money. To me it signals he’s in large amounts of bad debt.
He should prove he’s paid the car in full, made gains on investments, or that he has diverse sources of income. Having a luxury car means nothing and can easily be rented to fake an image
Which is also wild, because as a business owner the best thing you can do is put yourself on payroll.
I was TIRED of him the second he started talking he sucked the life out of me
As if a bank has never dealt with a small business before.
Maybe you're the one who "doesn't get it". God that was cringe.
You have painted this a lot more positively than I think anyone should, everyone speaking seems insufferable. lol
i cant believe people find the "look at me" "clap" guy a personable speaker, just from those little clips amanda shared i am already tired and wrung out
Yeah, the bar must be in hell because those clips made me audibly groan
he sounds like someone on ❄️
Gives me “overbearingly loud cult leader” vibes. Ick.
Some aspect of that isn't a bad idea especially if you do it occasionally, but yeah he overuses it
Very much giving intense pastor, especially the language. That cadence is familiar and triggering lol
You’re being far too generous to these MLM-style snake oil conferences.
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Right? I'm watching it again to see if I missed something.
Thank you. It is so off-putting to hear her not be criticizing this way harder.
I think she's in danger of falling down the rabbit hole tbh. I was surprised at how un-critical she was being of these type of tools. Everything about these conferences is a red flag and she said she likes these type of things for inspiration as an entrepreneur??? What.
@deathsheadcashew She doesn't research anything before posting and just nod her head a lot lol
I’m convinced people with money just don’t have high levels of discernment. Ain’t no way we are calling these people charismatic charmers based on these clips
that clip came on of the guy talking to “linda” and i cannot imagine being impressed by that…
amanda went way too easy on these guys LMFAO
@Dr.Quarexliterally. I work 4 days a week bc my job is insanely stressful. I could work more and ppl cannot understand why I don't - it's bc I can cover rent, going out with friends, and a vacation (albeit every two years lol). There is no material possession I want that is worth more than my extra day off 😂
The secret is that money isn't a filter for skill. There are many ways of earning money, especially if morals aren't an issue, yet we assume the way they present themselves is the way they earned it.
Just because a successful person is running a bakery doesn't mean they became successful because of the bakery.
This is why you see a lot of 'charismatic'people with no charisma. They didn't get the money appealing to people. They got the money and then got on the stage.
@@Sara-ri7qi Yeah that clip hurt to watch. I couldn't help but think that the dude was just an enormous tool
When motivational speakers border on proselytizing preacher energy I'm immediately checked out.
this conference feels like a scam that they're desperately trying to convince all the attendees is worth the fee despite not offering a lot of practical advice. the language they use at these is culty and weirds me out too.
I just think the majority of these are a huge waste of time and a grift on entrepreneurs. Really insidious.
The people at this convention seem insufferable
Inspirational speaking is a cult imo, especially corporate ones. Toxic positivity is not good lol
real
they also give off the same vibe as mega-church pastors to me? (could just be people talking passionately into a microphone though...)
@@Bethany9513 No, you're definitely right.
I'm doing my master in biology and while we don't get a ton of input on public speaking, it is a very important part you have to learn. You have to hold a lot of 20-30 min long talks completely in English (not being a native speaker), where you have to present really complex topics without glossing over important details, overexplaining/underexplaining or making it too flat. All while having to capture the interest of both other master students (who are almost completely new to that specific topic) and the professor (who read that paper more than once already).
But when you actually want to convey information, not just emotion, you have to talk completely differently.
We are always reminded to leave pauses so people can process what they heard. These guys talk way too quickly, and also with too loud of a voice, so that listening is not easy. The reason is probably that they don't want you to think too long about what they're actually saying. You're supposed to focus on the emotion and get swept up in it.
If you printed every word they say on paper and read it at home, you'd not get much out of it.
If you did it with any good scientific talk, you'd definitely still enjoy it and learn a lot.
At the very least it's all the same cadence. Like I could see how someone who either isn't used to it or is too used to it could be drawn in, but I grew up agnostic in the rural southern US. That shit activates my fight or flight. My public school would always have youth pastors or pastor-adjacent speakers speaking at assemblies and do it a few times a year. It was always a terrible experience, and often a bit scary because it's some guy in your non-religious school yelling at you about jesus and heaven and hell and shit and I just wanna go back to geometry.
And of course debate-bros and evangelizers also use the same cadence when they're trying to "argue" (gish gallop) and exist outside of school assemblies. Makes me empathize with stereotypical jock bullies in 90's movies because nothing makes you want to shove a nerd into a locker more than a nerd who won't shut the fuck up and let you process information
Was this video an April fools troll? Motivational speakers are grifters.
I think it’s funny that the one talk you described as awkward and out of place sounds like the only talk I would have gotten anything “motivational” out of. Rich guys yelling at me to cut everyone with lower energy vibrations or whatever out of my life does nothing for me, a genuine sit-down conversation about finding your passion in life sounds kinda inspiring.
Right? I feel like Amanda drank the Kool aid a lil bit
I get what she meant, that it's like a bit of a wet blanket over the rest of the talks, but I had the opposite perspective
That guy was the only one I found tolerable, and he rly emphasized how phony everyone else seemed
@@maiarustad5062 I think that this was part of her point to be honest
Just listening to him talking about paystubs and "We're different" made me ill. So condescending. So much snake oil in his veins. I'm talking physically uneasy.
Especially considering he’s speaking to a banker, who deals with people applying for loans/mortgages and she’s never dealt with an entrepreneur or business owner before 🙄
He’s really got the patronising vaguely sexist vibe going on
It made my skin crawl. insufferable
She was just doing her job too 😮💨
She probably asks for financial information to everyone regardless of background. Homegirl just wanted to process his shit and have him leave already...
For real imagine thinking a loan officer doesn’t know how to read tax returns
That one guy freaking out over giving the loan officer his tax returns because “it doesn’t look like he has money” is so 😭 I can assure you that she knows the difference between gross profit and taxable income my dude.
7am to 7pm is criminal
gotta get all 3 meals into that schedule
They want you exhausted so that you are more suggestible and willing to sign up for whatever “pay to play” event they are advertising. These conferences are almost always a large event trying to sell you a smaller more expensive event.
7-7 with one break is MLM conference schedule
@missaniebananie6473 this right here. Exhaust them and sell to them. There's always another event, more and more expensive
Common MLM tactic. Exhaust people then hype them up with the talk so they'll spend more money, do whatever you suggest, etc. No meals breaks usually or just some "coffee and snacks" b.s.
Edit: I commented before I read the thread and realized someone said this before me lol
Cringe at that man telling his banker "you don't understand, im not like you, I don't do the pay cheque thing" is soo patronizing and rude. I've had clients try to pass of the whole "I have money bro, trust me" and my colleagues and I always have a good laugh. Some of the hardest clients to deal with lmao
The whole event feels like a Megachurch sermon. The Pastor at my parents' old church did the same thing: told people when to clap, constantly told them to look at him, ect. The name Aspire also made me think this was going to be a video where Amanda went to a religious event lol.
Tbh every single person you mentioned both positively and negatively seems insufferable
Bringing "and everyone clapped" to a whole other meaning.
and everyone clapped (as directed)
Amanda these scammers never give any real advice 😢
Thats not true. One time a guy told me that when my alarm goes off, i should just wake up. It solved my narcolepsy and now im a bossbabe
For real like it's weird watching her try to convince us she didnt get 100% scammed lmao
@@berrytrap it kinda feels like a mask slipping moment tbh. Not saying it is, just that that's what it feels like
@@dismurrart6648Her trying to gauge interest in a potential Trovatrip was a mask slip. Meant she either didn't do research on it or didn't care about what's being said about it.
@@dismurrart6648Oh my God another narcoleptic?? No way, this is so rare.
the “funny man” wasn’t funny to me. In the immortal words of Tekken Marshall Law: I *HATE* rich people
I completely zoned out during this video. These types of people remind me of cult leaders and they love the sound of their own voice more than actually saying meaningful things.
do you mean the woman who made the video seemed like that?
@@SaltedRain no, I mean the speakers at the event.
@@tangerinefairy0 oh ok
An anti-scam/anti-MLM youtuber has talked about having attended and worked backstage at events like this. She explained the reason they make them so long and only put their most popular speakers on at the very beginning and at the very end of the event is so that the middle can be filled with a bunch of snake oil salespeople, 'course' peddlers and all round scammers that paid the organisers to be featured (that's how the organisers make money from this event). You need to sit through their 'inspirational' talks if you want to get to your favourite act and the organisers often don't allow you to leave and come back to avoid you only showing up in the morning and in the evening. And at the end of the day when you're tired out of your mind or maybe even a bit pumped from some of these people telling you to "JUST DO IT!", you are more susceptible to sales pitches, so they swoop in and get you to sign up for some bullshit course. BOOM PROFIT!
could u just dip and come in at the end of the day
@@louschwick7301 I think the thing is like, if you wanted to see particular speakers, you have no idea when their talk starts. So it'll be hard to know when to come back. I'm sure if I left one of these, I wouldn't come back tbh
could you tell me who this is? would love to watch that video! sounds very interesting
This all feels like Evangelical Christian / MLM hun conference
i was half expecting to see a lularoa banner in the background tbh
Looking at something like this from outside of the world of business, 12 hours of inspirational speeches sounds like absolute hell. Honestly the thought of 2 hours of it makes my skin crawl
Hell, as someone from Inside the world of business, it still seems like Hell. Absolute gibberish bullshit with no actual value. These aren't Businessmen or Entrepreneurs, they are snake oil merchants
Tbh it just looks like you paid to go to church
Isn't that how most of those big churches work anyway?
You just pay after not before.
Sometimes when I’m done training new employees I want to tell them to please clap after I’m done.
I’ve clapped a couple of times once someone said ‘I think you’ve got it from here…’
I need to do this. Thank you. 👏🏻
Don't do this.. The guy at my orientation did this and it was incredibly awkward and stressful. Spare people the stress.
Honestly, as someone who’s been in like 3 week long trainings, I think this is a valid request 😂
@@OllieAnxiousoh yeah no never do it for something like an orientation!
1+ week trainings only. And make sure you say “clap for yourselves” while you bow 😂
I had this playing in the background and for a second thought the algorithm brought me to the fundamentalist side of TH-cam accidentally. He speaks like a televangelist.
I think my personal hell looks like this kind of conference
the audience literally laughs at any and everything. you just watched rich people , some with scam like personalities make poor/struggling/trying to survive people (which are most of us) the butt of the joke, as per usual. there’s no way that crowd is full of millionaires and billionaires, so the audience is self inflating their ego…by laughing at themselves and people just like them… crazy.
As a brazilian you see that every day, if someone works their way up and ends up having an overseas job they are likely to randomly come back DESPISING every brazilian and saying that our culture is trash, its insane
@@Maluuhself hate and lack of humbleness… it’s a shame
Hey amanda this conference ain't it. The speakers didn't expel any sympathy or empathy towards their audiences
You can't seriously think that this people are charismatic, funny or were saying anything smart. Is this a late April fools joke?
Sooo I'm getting a PhD in business and my research area is corruption and corporate malfeasance... these conferences are 100% scams. Grifters always seem charismatic and appealing (especially to a tired audience -- 7am start time is a clue), it's how they're able to complete the grift. I wouldn't put another on your schedule unless you really enjoy parting with your money.
This entire thing feels sleezy and so, so off. From the clips it’s not charisma. It’s straight up harassment at this point.
Man that guy talking about the bank was aggressively unfunny
The second hand embarrassment I felt.
Right? Imagine telling someone whose profession it is to look at someone's financial situation that they don't understand your financial situation. For all he knows, she has clients that make millions more than him. He was unnecessarily condescending.
I hope Bank employee Linda is having a good day
i have no idea how you can enjoy going to events like this. just rich people yelling for no reason. "motivational speaking" will do nothing for your actual bank account
only two minutes in, and are these the type of conferences MLM huns will go to? so just the most basic and milquetoast motivational speeches, with some class hatred and romanticization of hella rich people?
Maybe it's because I'm Autistic, but like, do people actually get stuff out of this? It always seems like they're repeating basic crap that you'd read in an article called "How To Run Your Buisnesss Like a Boss" but surrounded by a lot of hot air.
This is how I feel.
i feel the same honestly
A big part of it is just the atmosphere, it tricks attendees into thinking that they're getting more out of it then they really are. You might be sitting there excitedly hanging on their every word but then once you leave and actually start thinking about what they told you, you realize that its incredibly vacuous. They're hoping that by that point in time you've invested so much time, energy, and money into it that you will resist that realization and insist that you did get something out of it.
Its all a grift. And its one that they back up with psychology and the same tricks that cults and churches have been refining for hundreds, even thousands, of years.
I have autism too. It makes no sense to me. I feel the same way about stand up comedians. I just don’t get the appeal.
honestly, a lot of people are tricked into enjoying events like this because the speakers heighten the audiences emotions, they may say things that are broadly applicable to Living As A Human Person, but they say it in a way that people experience as a revelation because events like this try to bombard the senses to overwhelm ones ability to think clearly and rationally. its the same with how many cult leaders are or were considered charismatic, they say something that cant really be considered false but they also say it with conviction and play on the emotions of the people around them
Listening to the clips that dude is completely the opposite of what I would find charismatic, saying a whole lotta words to say very little, speak/screaming, asking for clapping, I would've just left. But hey that's just me. Great video nonetheless!
He was very charismatic I think. What he wasn't was likable
@@louschwick7301 Maybe to someone who is used to US-christian pastors? Only those talk like that, in my experience. Or maybe cult leaders.
But to me charisma is someone you want to follow or be like or someone who could get you motivated to do something, you want to listen to. He was not any of that.
Even this small clip was just exhausting. Trying to filter his speech for anything substantial is annyoing because he is way too loud. In the end I just thought there is nothing I can learn from him, because it all seems empty.
@@Tessa_Gr oh i agree, i thoroughly hated the guy, its just charisma as per my definition isnt necessarily likability, its mostly energy and crowd control. i think hes likable for a certain type of person, ie, the kind that would WANT to go to these business bs share sessions that exist for some reason
Ew, the ego-filled conservative red-pill masculing energy oozing from that event is a major ick. I wish all these "inspirational" speakers held the same amount of energy for community-building, empathy, charity, and philanthropy as they do for the "money game," hustle culture, material items, and tax write offs.
how tf do whole rooms of people fall for these hucksters
What that guy did asking people to look at him and clap is a church thing.. some churches here have entire courses to train on how to speak and engage the audience in order to receive the most amount of donations..
I was instantly put off by the fact that the Tim Story guy seemed exactly like the cult indoctrination men I was forced into watching/listening to as a child. Instant swerve, as I got enough of that PTSD-inducing insanity growing up.
that “im not like you “speech taxes thing seemed like he was speaking down upon w2 people ? like that seemed so condescending
All these people just give grifter energy to me.
I genuinely dont feel like events like this actually benefit people. Everyone just spends an ungodly amoutn of money to go to motivational event after event and dont get any personalized advice. Its always just felt kinda scammy.
It’s giving MLM energy
C’mon everybody little clap
I hope this event can really teach me how to take $100,000 and turn it into 16 THOUSAND dollars
Thats the first thing I thought about when I heard about clapping
I wonder what the venn diagram between swell and dropout is😊
excellent reference
everybody do a little clap!!
"Look at me" what am I, a dog?
Sorry but I can't see any value in any of these things. Especially that clip with Andrew talking about the bank stuff, dude's just talking about insulting and belittling a laborer for his own benefit.
I cannot clap for tax evaders.
If someone asked me to clap more than once, I’d pointedly stand with my hands at my sides out of spite LOL
Or to watch them. Oh, guess it's time to get the phone out
‘Why am I talking with a grown adult about cutting in line at 7am’ 😭😭😭
I've literally never understood these seminar things. The only feeling I get when I think about them is "Oh, boy. I can't wait to spend 500$ on this rich guys 'workshop' when I could do any other more useful thing with it, like put it in a savings account, or pay a guy to come amputate my arms and legs with an olive fork, which would take just as long, but be less painful."
The guy who told the crowd to clap... It honestly sounds like a very common thing I've heard preachers do. A lot of "put your hands together," "Clap one more time," let's make some noise" etc is not unheard of in a pulpit. Granted, this was not a pulpit, but I have definitely heard special motivational speaker guests say the same things in pulpits.
Literally he was doing the business version of "can I get an AMEN" "let me hear you make some noise for the lord" etc.
The "eyes on me." "Look at me." and "here's where you clap" thing just tells me this guy thinks his audience is full of idiots.
9:35 ok but its not an entrepreneur conference... its a hustler/scam conference? It's weird that you've not focused on that....
C'mon everybody give me a little clap
SHRIGGLY?
"I understood that reference"
Having been to several business conferences with my husband featuring key note speaker, motivational speakers, etc. I would NEVER voluntarily attend something like this, let alone PAY to attend.
crazy how much america loves these motivational talks. They made us watch them in my UK school and it was always a loud American. It's interesting because most of these talks aren't even about anything specifically American... except the way most of them focus on the american dream "work your way up" sort of lifestyle I guess? Hearing there is an entire event just for these speeches in the US is so funny to me.
they have them here too, and i find them insufferable whenever i get dragged to them
I’m sorry but having people show up shortly after 6am to an event that’s scheduled to go until 7pm and is meant to be energizing and motivational is wild. No one can be “on” for over 12 hours
The icky grifter vibes are off the charts. These dudes talk like televangelists. Do not like.
all of the clips just cemented how insufferable these types of people are. the whole event has mega-church vibes
ngl the whole “look at me/eyes on me” gave me youth group ptsd flashbacks /lh /nsrs
Maybe I’m just a spiteful person, but if someone kept telling me to look at them and clap I’d find it extremely irritating and refuse to do either.
It also seems very desperate. Reminds me of Tywin’s line, “A king that needs to say “I am the king” is no true king”.
“look at me” “eyes on me” my brother in christ, i am actively looking at my phone if you command me like a dog
It's giving Jeb Bush "please clap." 🤣
It’s very easy to create “motivational” content that can feel very powerful in the moment, but is actually just fluff and nonsense. Evidence based personal development is awesome but requires research, testing things out, complex matrices etc. The more expensive, the less valuable in many cases
Yeah, to me “motivational” speakers have always just come off as sales people so I’ve never really been a fan
Amanda, I say this with love but if you are ever in a room like this again - locate the exits and run. This is cult programming tactics. The fact you weren’t ranting against this makes me think you’ve been in LA too long.
FYI If you want more this: 11:47-12:12, you can get it at your average Black Pentecostal church. Source: I got my fair share of this at least 3x a week growing up. “Can I get a clap” = “Can I get an amen/Yall don’t hear me now”
If I had any advice for that guy it would be to as for “a little clap” ala Very Important People from Dropout.
and then they all clapped
Thanks for this swell video Swell, everyone please clap!
👏👏👏
Why is your comment from 5 hours ago 😭
@@Idk39432Patreon supporter & she shared a link before making it public for everyone? Usually what is going on.
@@DieAlteistwiederda ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
Don't worry swell i clapped for the whole length of this video
Tim: They can't stab you in the back if you don't let them on the inside.
What?
Literally anyone outside of a circle can stab you in the back, your argument is terrible and so are you.
Yeah even as a metaphor that just straight up bad
He could just say something about poisoning but I guess that type of personality doesn't understand anything but direct aggression
It would have made sense if he said "they can't stab you in the back if you never turn it to them" or something like that. Like saying don't just trust anyone. But that is total bs.
I think he didn't understand what that actually means.
He's just saying words without any thinking involved, I fear.
@@Tessa_GrHe's awkwardly mixing a bunch of 'motivational' buzzphrases, so with the persuasive, rapid-fire pitch he's doing, the audience is going to understand what he means and react to it even though it doesn't actually make sense.
He's mixing up the concept that being close with people means vulnerability, and it's vulnerable to not have someone in your line of sight. So it's the idea of being selective with who you're close enough to that no one who would abuse it is able to hurt you where you're vulnerable.
On its own, that ends up being solid advice, but motivation-bros turn it into justifying an echo chamber. If people aren't supporting your dreams (aka if they question whether what you're doing is healthy/fiscally-wise/legal), they're in your way and you don't need that in your life. It's a very cult-y thing MLMs and some businesses do to get people to double down instead of questioning things
That guy talking was sooooo preacher talk coded I got flashbacks lmaoooo hate it 🫶🏽
10:58 not sure about that one, chief. I hear that commonly told in mlm motivational speeches in order to brainwash their victims not listen to any sort of set-backs/criticisms because "it's just haters"
I think you were way too nice to this conference. This conference just sounds like those mlm motivational conferences or those uplifting psas they make teenagers watch. Just a waste of money for the most basic information that you can easily find in Dhar Mann
All those clips are an absolutely pain to listen to, I cant imagine sitting through an entire day of that..
this sounds like a flat out scam ngl
I can tell you why the event started at 7 am and went all day, because you can not keep up your critical thinking skills, if you are sleep deprived and/or have been paying attention for hours on end. You not getting an iternerary is to keep you there all day and to take away your control over your schedule at the event.
The speakers didn't ask the audience to clap for their own benefit, but for the psychological effect. Even when you know you are told to clap, subconsciously you will absorb everyone else clapping and get the impression everyone else is impressed.
This event has it all, in-group out-group thinking, rules don't apply to us, inducing fomo etc etc. As someone who is interested in cult manipulation tactics, because they were once used on me, I would have had a field day there with the BITE model in hand ticking a good amount of the boxes.
Oh an fun fact: These "very successfull" speakers being horrible to listen to is part of it too. The audience is supposed to think, that the speakers are so successfull they fully make up for being an uncharismatic frat boy type, who thinks his misogyny meets tax fraud anecdote is a fun and insightfull story. And if you just join our cult ah program I mean, you too will be so successfull, people will listen to you through your good awfull admissions of federal tax crimes!
This sounds like a scam in my opinion.
Even just the clips are torture to listen to. No wonder you left early.
I was duped into a ugly cheap shirt that just says "human" by a very good speaker at a key club convention when I was in highschool and I could not remember the contents nor why I spent $30 on that once I returned home...this sounds like that but on crack.
How are these people any different from MLM boss babes? Educating people by making motivational speeches, who then learn to give motivational speeches to other gullible people? No value added to the world whatsoever.
The one thing I've definitely learned from going down the proverbial rabbit hole of motivational classes/events is that if there's a permanent discount, it's not a discount. That's just the price, and they're trying to manipulate people's psychology into thinking they have to act fast to get the 'deal,' or that they actually saved money by spending money. That somehow they got in while the getting was good and are special or savvy somehow. It's a con. The last one I encountered wasn't even discounted. They just hid their regular prices from public view and then claimed it was a 60% discount when it wasn't discounted at all. They literally pitched it as "our New Year's gift to you" when all they did was hand people an empty box and charge them for the wrapping paper. Another one I've seen is the "introductory" half-off flash sale for a new course that makes it seem like it's way more expensive than it actually is when the 'sale' price is already way overpriced compared to the value you get from it, and the sale never actually ends. So this event's "sale" on ticket prices is a big ol' red flag to me.
This is screaming scam to me.
These speakers are cringe. I'm convinced everyone speaking at these events is on coke.
I was expecting you to rip this event to shreds. It screams grifting.
I hate that so much. Went to the doctor the other day and he did some tests. When he came back in the room he just said "clap". Like, you're doing your job I'm not going to applaud you.
yeah im gonna go ahead and assume he didn't actually want you to clap
Doc probably should have thrown a "the" in front of that statement if you been doing a different kind of clapping 😹😹
It’s giving MLM😂
Personally I can't sit through motivational speeches because I'm too aware that the speaker is trying to persuade me into believing what they're selling using emotional/anecdotal based examples that aren't always relevant to others. So I spend the entire time mentally ripping the persuasive speech to shreds
Sooooooo....
That all sounded culty. Or yeah like an MLM. Lol
“Thought Leader” oh, I thought I hated the term influencer but I hate thought leader 10x more
A speaker/performer calls for applause as an energy-meter tactic. Any talk of >10 minutes is a long one for an audience to be parked in their seats for; and a smart speaker puts little "energy/ engagement checks" into his talk at intervals, to know when to push and when to ride the energy that's already there. Sometime, when you're at one of these kind of events, watch only the crowd instead; it's a good learning experience.
Motivational speaker Mary Morrison did the same thing with the tables and they were asking a couple thousand dollars, line was long with credit cards out. It feels like religion without the gods.