A few weeks ago I cut an old Super 8 film with partially broken perforations. Was super fun. Cutting films on the PC isn't even half as much fun for me
My grandfather was a projectionist (began cranking), my dad was a projectionist (Simplex carbon-arc), I did a bit in high-school (I'm 84 yo). Great channel, well done.
I really like the take on old filming with cameras. I am a huge fan of 1800s themes portraits and rare audio recordings. It has an almost eerie beauty to me. Anyways YOU have earned a new subscriber
I've come at this the opposite way - trying to synch audio from an 80s 4 track tape machine to digital video - and the solution is exactly the same; time stretch the video to the audio. So cool, my dude!
I did some thing similar. In the later decades. I was recording a talent show with two reasonably professional cameras and silly little me decided to grab some candid shots with my iPhone...... My unsynced iPhone! What a nightmare trying to synchronize these 10 second, clips three minute clips.... First I had to find where they went but of course the time on the file and the time on the video wasn't quite in Sync so that only got me in the ballpark over like a three hour talent show! But I did it a combination of getting it close and checking the Audio it was worth it. But I now know about time Code and Audio time code at that. And had I had about a week more time to think about what I was going to be doing I probably could've ripped some thing up like the FM radio transmitter monstrosity that I thought of on the way home.....
This was a great video on syncing sound to a silent camera. I have a 16mm Bolex Nonreflex camera that I shoot Black & White film on now. I was thinking of creating an electronic sync mechanism using an opto-coupler sensor and a microcontroller.
I actually was able to acquire a sound-sync Auricon camera! But I'm afraid life and lack of funding have kept me from sustaining the channel (for now). I would LOVE to make though and have been working on my next video and possibly starting a Patreon to help with this, so stay tuned!
Very cool video, found your channel a month or two ago and binged all your videos 😂 Congrats on almost 700 subscribers now! Well deserved! I like to emulate the vintage look and sound of films from the 20s-90s in my videos and your channel definitely has got me wanting to attempt to work with film! 🤩 I’d love to hear more about your time working at a theater 😂 Would also love to learn more about how you do your transatlantic accent and editing for that! You briefly touched on it here but would love a little more in depth video if you’re up for it! And finally, thanks for introducing us to The Vocalitas! Such a cool and talented group! Looking forward to your next video and good luck on the road to 1000 subs! 🙌🙌
"I'm not quite dead yet!" LOTS happened in 2022 that's made it a challenge to release new stuff, but I have plans for more vids in 2023! STAY TUNED! (and thanks for your patience 🙏) and THANKS FOR THE SUB!!!
Fantastic video as always! I’ve been staring at an old Auricon setup for a while now, and seeing what it’d take to sync my BH Filmo , I’m now really tempted to pull the trigger on it. It comes with the original tube amp, which would be a fun project of its own to fix back up. I do a lot of WWII reenacting so it’d definitely be handy to have around! Also, they did make an external motor drive for the Filmo, they crop up on eBay from time to time. They take the place of the Filmo hand crank and rely on the internal governor, so it wouldn’t be as good as Crystal Sync but it’d be more consistent, and let you burn a whole spool in one go.
I actually wound up getting an Auricon!!! It's BEAUTIFUL and I can't wait to release a video on it. Sadly, life and work has eaten all my time (and money) so it's slow going. I was thinking of starting a Patreon so I can sustain this channel and afford to make more videos. What do you think!?? Thanks again. Stay tuned!!
I honestly have no idea how I stumbled upon this video...but it's REALLY well done! I've been editing for 46 years, so I've had my share of trying to sync film to audio tracks that weren't recorded in crystal sync...it was, as you said, a nightmare. Thanks for bringing back my horrible memories. lol I'm now one of your 1,000+ subscribers...keep up the good work!!
This youtube channel is so nice. I have been waiting for month for a new episode, finally it's here! It's so Interesting to follow you process. A fine grained film stock as 50d shot wide opened really helps to create a 35mm effect. What do you think of a more contrasty vibrant grade? Digitally process the log scan maybe like they did in "The Aviator" movie, adding a three stripe effect?
Was always interested in purchasing a vintage 40s -50s movie camera but its just that where I live no one sells the film needed and no one can develop them
No one sells it near me either! I was able to find my film supply, and then dev/scan all online. There are a bunch you can try. One good place to start is filmphotgraphyproject.com But by no means are they the only players. If movie film is new in general, I'd start out with Super 8. Much cheaper :D Thanks for the comment!
Actually... if using some kind of tape stereo recorder, One channel dedicated to synch pulses "beeps and boops" when pressing "roll" button, and the other channel just for audio. I think it could be much better way to sync audio, especially when tape would roll at the same time when camera does. So actually it could had sync pulses from just start and pause even in audio source. I have nagra tape recorder, and by setting it to record if you turn of the power and play it back its still on run, so you could hear anyway when cam is rolling or not. But with any tape recorder set to record and controlled power supply in sync with camera would do. One day I need to check if this could really work. But i guess it should.
You’re such an amazing teacher and this video is phenomenal. I learned so much and can appreciate so much more now. I love your personality and sense of humor. Bravo!
Really nice work Sir. I have to say, no matter how much the hassle, I hope film continues, for it's REAL look, rather than "Cinematic Luts", which is good also, but nothing matches the real thing. Its like painting on physical medium. All the textures are there.
Glad I found this channel. You come across as a friend I've known for years. I really enjoyed the video. And that's the truth! I ain't even zozzled off the foot juice, buster! This was great!
Jeepers! Well if that kinda buzz ain't the bee's knees? So very kind of you. Much obliged :D (sorry for the delayed response! Hoping to have more up soon, so stay tuned!!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT!)
While I was thoroughly enjoying your video, I screamed out a very loud "YES!!" when you said that the sound quality needs to match the picture quality. There is nothing like the sound of an optical track going along with the picture. Too much fidelity ruins the illusion. Keep up the good work! I have four auricon cameras in various states of repair, but am in California, so can't just run one over to you, but hopefully somebody will help you out. Keep up the fine work!
As a fan of old european trash cinema. My first thought to make a non sync camera do sound is simple .. just dub it! :D Also. If there's one thing I know about those films and of the low budget scene in Hong Kong and japanese industries as well. It's that the sound almost never matches the musical performances. Jokes aside. It was fun to see this project go that well.
Hey, Andy, against all odds you could reach a very steady film speed with an electric motor on a Filmo 70-H. The motor’s torque is constant. That way, at 24 fps, you’d be able to get 2¾ minutes on a hundred-footer. Some 70-H models also take magazines, so some eleven minutes would be possible. Basically, with the Filmos that you have you could have prolonged takes by simply cranking away. No harm to the mechanism. Just a sturdy tripod needed and perhaps an assistant to do the cranking while you peep through the finder. I have synchronized wild recordings, image and sound, hundreds of hours, on flatbed editors. With an image print and a sound rerecording on magnetic film it takes a little cheating here and there in order to keep things together. Different from the stretching you did to the picture fully analog synch cheating is rather done to the sound carrier. It’s about snipping out a frame length in fitting moments or adding spacer (leader stock) now and then. It’s feasible and unnoticeable, if well done. About the AMPAS curve, that is optical sound technology up until the end of the fourties. The first magnetic sound recordings in Hollywood were made in 1948 on perforated stock. Your Vision-3 color negative image should rather sound analog magnetic. That’s about as different as a vinyl long play record sounds in comparison to a shellac disc. Nevertheless, great video, many thanks for the continuation of your work.
I love what you are doing I just found your stuff out of curiosity about using a hand crank camera especially all the old traffic reels filmed from a truck bed; id love to try that in modern traffic with one of those cameras. why don't you get one of those Bell & Howell click on /in spline motors and a magazine ? it would remove your spring limitation by making it direct drive but you would need a compact battery setup
Man, you did a terrific job. I mean... It's amazing! So authentic! Everything is perfect! Please, keep going! And I can't wait the time to do the same. 😉
Seeing your blend of modern editing and sound design along with classical filmmaking makes for such a compelling picture! It makes me wonder what most musical acts around the golden era of Hollywood would have sounded like if they had modern audio recording equipment 🤔
There’s also the possibility of getting a fully working Super 8 camera converted to crystal sync when shooting silent cartridges. Then it’s just a matter of slating and lining up the film scan in editing with the sound.
Hey man, fun stuff. that ISO 50 film looks spectacular. Ive been shooting film stills the last few years and am always amazed how it eats the light up, you almost cant overexpose it. Was the time difference different for each clip that you took? and did it waiver at all within each take?
Cool channel, but I think you're going to have to get a 35mm hand cranked camera or we're not actually going to be happy. So time to put your bid in for a 20's camera I guess.
One thing I noticed is that the VOCALITAS, unfortunately, disappear somewhat behind the microphones. Expressly the mouths from which we need to receive their beautiful voices now and then are shielded by ugly black windjammers. I know that you know about that. In the 1940s microphones would not have been allowed so near to people. I know that the learning curve is quite steep. If you wish, I can adjust your Filmos so that the mechanism will not get slower towards the end of a run. Cost is $25 per camera. Cheers!
If you wanna make a high end film project. I would gladly lend you my 7 movie cameras 2 super 8 and 5 8mm. Camera 1, 1962 Kodak automatic 8. Camera 2, 1934 Kodak model 20. Camera 3, 1932 bell and Howell filmo. Camera 4, 1954 Mansfield holiday zoom ee. Camera 5, 1962 Kodak brownie. Camera 6, 1967 SC/91 super 8 Camera 7, 1969 SC/100 super 8.
![Method Writing: The First Four Concepts - Jack Grapes [FULL INTERVIEW]](/img/n.gif)
8:17 That face made me laugh🤣😂
In my opinion optical sound striped film should be brought back in all formats.
100 percent yes!
I definitely need a story of how you managed to acquire Tenacious D tape!
First :-) I´m so happy that you finally made another video, because they are great!
Thank you so much for saying that! I'll do my best to keep'em coming in 2022!
Andy you brave, brave chap, well done. Again. You inspire me and leave me wanting more!!
A few weeks ago I cut an old Super 8 film with partially broken perforations. Was super fun. Cutting films on the PC isn't even half as much fun for me
That final result was absolutely stunning! You did such a good job and you explained everything so well. Thank you!
Chambless Movie supplies used to help with this stuff, RIP
Good to see you back. I hope to make my first 16mm or 8mm footage in 2022.
Thanks so much for watching and waiting so patiently!! Hope to do WAY more in 2022 :D
Andy! My old friend! This video was amazing. Made feel like I was back Film History at Full Sail…. Just told WAY BETTER and so much more entertaining.
Glad you enjoyed it!
My grandfather was a projectionist (began cranking), my dad was a projectionist (Simplex carbon-arc), I did a bit in high-school (I'm 84 yo). Great channel, well done.
Thank you!
Man this is a gold mine that's yet to be uncovered by the wider public
I really like the take on old filming with cameras. I am a huge fan of 1800s themes portraits and rare audio recordings. It has an almost eerie beauty to me. Anyways YOU have earned a new subscriber
I know right!? I'm a fan of those style portraits too. It's like time travel. Thanks for the comment! 🙏🙏🙏
I've come at this the opposite way - trying to synch audio from an 80s 4 track tape machine to digital video - and the solution is exactly the same; time stretch the video to the audio. So cool, my dude!
Yes!!!! Please talk about your experience in the theater?
Oh no....me and my big mouth lol Thanks for the comment frank!
I did some thing similar. In the later decades. I was recording a talent show with two reasonably professional cameras and silly little me decided to grab some candid shots with my iPhone...... My unsynced iPhone! What a nightmare trying to synchronize these 10 second, clips three minute clips.... First I had to find where they went but of course the time on the file and the time on the video wasn't quite in Sync so that only got me in the ballpark over like a three hour talent show! But I did it a combination of getting it close and checking the Audio it was worth it. But I now know about time Code and Audio time code at that. And had I had about a week more time to think about what I was going to be doing I probably could've ripped some thing up like the FM radio transmitter monstrosity that I thought of on the way home.....
One of the best channels on TH-cam. Love it. Keep it up
Wow! That's immensely kind of you to say. Thank you so much!🙏
This was a great video on syncing sound to a silent camera. I have a 16mm Bolex Nonreflex camera that I shoot Black & White film on now. I was thinking of creating an electronic sync mechanism using an opto-coupler sensor and a microcontroller.
Really fun video! Thanks for sharing your experience with shooting move film.
Very nice work on this project!
Finally a new video! You have done an hard and wonderful job!
Please talk about your job at cinema theatre ❤️
AWESOME WORK!!!!
This was great fun! How's that sync sound project coming along?! Would love to see an update on yr vintage escapades!!
I actually was able to acquire a sound-sync Auricon camera! But I'm afraid life and lack of funding have kept me from sustaining the channel (for now). I would LOVE to make though and have been working on my next video and possibly starting a Patreon to help with this, so stay tuned!
You did an AMAZING job!
Very cool video, found your channel a month or two ago and binged all your videos 😂 Congrats on almost 700 subscribers now! Well deserved! I like to emulate the vintage look and sound of films from the 20s-90s in my videos and your channel definitely has got me wanting to attempt to work with film! 🤩 I’d love to hear more about your time working at a theater 😂 Would also love to learn more about how you do your transatlantic accent and editing for that! You briefly touched on it here but would love a little more in depth video if you’re up for it! And finally, thanks for introducing us to The Vocalitas! Such a cool and talented group! Looking forward to your next video and good luck on the road to 1000 subs! 🙌🙌
Love your videos! I just got a Bolex C8 8mm movie camera this past week. I’m excited to hopefully try it out someday!
This is very cool! Well done !
Would be interested in hearing about your previous projection career,
Hope you find an Auricon!
Absolutely incredible my dude! Can’t get enough of this 🔥
THANKS SO MUCH!! Your support means the world to me. Truly
Wait! Are you done making videos for this channel? I just subscribed!
"I'm not quite dead yet!" LOTS happened in 2022 that's made it a challenge to release new stuff, but I have plans for more vids in 2023! STAY TUNED! (and thanks for your patience 🙏) and THANKS FOR THE SUB!!!
its so cool being here to see a new channel grow
Thanks so much! It's so cool for me to have your feedback and your support. So much appreciated 🙏
Fantastic video as always!
I’ve been staring at an old Auricon setup for a while now, and seeing what it’d take to sync my BH Filmo , I’m now really tempted to pull the trigger on it.
It comes with the original tube amp, which would be a fun project of its own to fix back up. I do a lot of WWII reenacting so it’d definitely be handy to have around!
Also, they did make an external motor drive for the Filmo, they crop up on eBay from time to time. They take the place of the Filmo hand crank and rely on the internal governor, so it wouldn’t be as good as Crystal Sync but it’d be more consistent, and let you burn a whole spool in one go.
I actually wound up getting an Auricon!!! It's BEAUTIFUL and I can't wait to release a video on it. Sadly, life and work has eaten all my time (and money) so it's slow going. I was thinking of starting a Patreon so I can sustain this channel and afford to make more videos. What do you think!?? Thanks again. Stay tuned!!
I honestly have no idea how I stumbled upon this video...but it's REALLY well done! I've been editing for 46 years, so I've had my share of trying to sync film to audio tracks that weren't recorded in crystal sync...it was, as you said, a nightmare. Thanks for bringing back my horrible memories. lol I'm now one of your 1,000+ subscribers...keep up the good work!!
Pls tell us your experience in the movie theaters.
You got it Joshu :D (Stay tuned!)
This youtube channel is so nice. I have been waiting for month for a new episode, finally it's here! It's so Interesting to follow you process. A fine grained film stock as 50d shot wide opened really helps to create a 35mm effect. What do you think of a more contrasty vibrant grade? Digitally process the log scan maybe like they did in "The Aviator" movie, adding a three stripe effect?
Was always interested in purchasing a vintage 40s -50s movie camera but its just that where I live no one sells the film needed and no one can develop them
No one sells it near me either! I was able to find my film supply, and then dev/scan all online. There are a bunch you can try. One good place to start is filmphotgraphyproject.com But by no means are they the only players. If movie film is new in general, I'd start out with Super 8. Much cheaper :D Thanks for the comment!
Actually... if using some kind of tape stereo recorder, One channel dedicated to synch pulses "beeps and boops" when pressing "roll" button, and the other channel just for audio. I think it could be much better way to sync audio, especially when tape would roll at the same time when camera does. So actually it could had sync pulses from just start and pause even in audio source. I have nagra tape recorder, and by setting it to record if you turn of the power and play it back its still on run, so you could hear anyway when cam is rolling or not. But with any tape recorder set to record and controlled power supply in sync with camera would do. One day I need to check if this could really work. But i guess it should.
Glad to see new content! Interesting subject and your passion for vintage film making!
Glad to see your comments. Thank you!! I'll try my best to keep it coming :D
You’re such an amazing teacher and this video is phenomenal. I learned so much and can appreciate so much more now. I love your personality and sense of humor. Bravo!
Really nice work Sir. I have to say, no matter how much the hassle, I hope film continues, for it's REAL look, rather than "Cinematic Luts", which is good also, but nothing matches the real thing. Its like painting on physical medium. All the textures are there.
Glad I found this channel. You come across as a friend I've known for years. I really enjoyed the video. And that's the truth! I ain't even zozzled off the foot juice, buster! This was great!
Jeepers! Well if that kinda buzz ain't the bee's knees? So very kind of you. Much obliged :D
(sorry for the delayed response! Hoping to have more up soon, so stay tuned!!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT!)
While I was thoroughly enjoying your video, I screamed out a very loud "YES!!" when you said that the sound quality needs to match the picture quality. There is nothing like the sound of an optical track going along with the picture. Too much fidelity ruins the illusion. Keep up the good work! I have four auricon cameras in various states of repair, but am in California, so can't just run one over to you, but hopefully somebody will help you out. Keep up the fine work!
I subscribe INSTATLY, THIS CHANNEL IS AMAZING!!!
As a fan of old european trash cinema. My first thought to make a non sync camera do sound is simple .. just dub it! :D
Also. If there's one thing I know about those films and of the low budget scene in Hong Kong and japanese industries as well. It's that the sound almost never matches the musical performances.
Jokes aside. It was fun to see this project go that well.
Hey, Andy, against all odds you could reach a very steady film speed with an electric motor on a Filmo 70-H. The motor’s torque is constant. That way, at 24 fps, you’d be able to get 2¾ minutes on a hundred-footer. Some 70-H models also take magazines, so some eleven minutes would be possible. Basically, with the Filmos that you have you could have prolonged takes by simply cranking away. No harm to the mechanism. Just a sturdy tripod needed and perhaps an assistant to do the cranking while you peep through the finder.
I have synchronized wild recordings, image and sound, hundreds of hours, on flatbed editors. With an image print and a sound rerecording on magnetic film it takes a little cheating here and there in order to keep things together. Different from the stretching you did to the picture fully analog synch cheating is rather done to the sound carrier. It’s about snipping out a frame length in fitting moments or adding spacer (leader stock) now and then. It’s feasible and unnoticeable, if well done.
About the AMPAS curve, that is optical sound technology up until the end of the fourties. The first magnetic sound recordings in Hollywood were made in 1948 on perforated stock. Your Vision-3 color negative image should rather sound analog magnetic. That’s about as different as a vinyl long play record sounds in comparison to a shellac disc.
Nevertheless, great video, many thanks for the continuation of your work.
I love what you are doing I just found your stuff out of curiosity about using a hand crank camera especially all the old traffic reels filmed from a truck bed; id love to try that in modern traffic with one of those cameras. why don't you get one of those Bell & Howell click on /in spline motors and a magazine ? it would remove your spring limitation by making it direct drive but you would need a compact battery setup
I Have a CP16A crystal sync 16mm Camera 400' Magazines & I own a B&H filmo 70 Awesome Video.
Man, you did a terrific job. I mean... It's amazing! So authentic! Everything is perfect! Please, keep going! And I can't wait the time to do the same. 😉
Seeing your blend of modern editing and sound design along with classical filmmaking makes for such a compelling picture! It makes me wonder what most musical acts around the golden era of Hollywood would have sounded like if they had modern audio recording equipment 🤔
17:25
There’s also the possibility of getting a fully working Super 8 camera converted to crystal sync when shooting silent cartridges. Then it’s just a matter of slating and lining up the film scan in editing with the sound.
The miking was different. Not just eq but microphone technology. Analog isn't the same as digital sound
11:01 what is that monitor? It's so tiny!
Hey man, fun stuff. that ISO 50 film looks spectacular. Ive been shooting film stills the last few years and am always amazed how it eats the light up, you almost cant overexpose it. Was the time difference different for each clip that you took? and did it waiver at all within each take?
*Bravo*
Can only offer a Arriflex SR2. Just one Problem, I‘m from Germany.
Danke sehr!!!
Isn´t there a Sinc-Sound-Motor for your type of camera?
I believe so! However, THAT would be for another video ; )
Thanks for watching and for commenting!!
@@TheVintageFilmmakercan u make about 35mm camera?
Cool channel, but I think you're going to have to get a 35mm hand cranked camera or we're not actually going to be happy. So time to put your bid in for a 20's camera I guess.
Also a little disappointed you're not developing film in your bathroom.
One thing I noticed is that the VOCALITAS, unfortunately, disappear somewhat behind the microphones. Expressly the mouths from which we need to receive their beautiful voices now and then are shielded by ugly black windjammers. I know that you know about that. In the 1940s microphones would not have been allowed so near to people. I know that the learning curve is quite steep. If you wish, I can adjust your Filmos so that the mechanism will not get slower towards the end of a run. Cost is $25 per camera. Cheers!
If you wanna make a high end film project. I would gladly lend you my 7 movie cameras 2 super 8 and 5 8mm.
Camera 1, 1962 Kodak automatic 8.
Camera 2, 1934 Kodak model 20.
Camera 3, 1932 bell and Howell filmo.
Camera 4, 1954 Mansfield holiday zoom ee.
Camera 5, 1962 Kodak brownie.
Camera 6, 1967 SC/91 super 8
Camera 7, 1969 SC/100 super 8.
That's quite generous Bubbs! THANK YOU!! Maybe I'll take you up on that some day :D
i have no interest in this whatsoever.....until now!....sometimes the algorythim gets it so very right 👍