Ok, so I worked on pass 1 and 3 last night. I have the following takeaways: 1. Giving someone who likes spider guard their preferred grips makes them happy. 2. The passes all work (Yay! --- not that I succeeded beyond step #2 on any of the passes, but it's clear that with drilling and more assertive movement I should be able to use them against non-passive training partners). Just the initial pinning for grip clearance and reset is useful on its own in any case. 3. The hard part isn't the movements, it's getting a feel for when the hip is actually pinned, especially with relaxed opponents who have good timing. 4. I was notably reminded that pass #3, unless done quickly will lead to leg locks. Repeatedly... 5. I was also told that #3 was only to be used on instructors. The look in my purple belt instructor's eyes told me he wished I was not allowed to use it. I found #3 was easier than the one where you pin the hip with the shin, because we worked on a very similar open guard pass a couple of weeks ago. This leaves me to ask one (read three) question: What constitutes a pinned hip and how pinned does it need to be? And how can I tell if it's pinned before moving? All in all, very useful. I'll be watching this again tomorrow before class.
Thank you! This was very helpful I am a white belt as a kid I struggle with the long videos because they are so long and normally I get bored and lose interest so it doesn’t make as much sense. And they talk a lot about different stuff which also makes me loose focus. But this was short,and you guys got straight to the point. Thank you again this was very helpful! 😊 Can you also do some more vids on getting out of mount and side control.
Funny that it was not the 3 I expected to see 👍 I really thought you were gonna slip in some kind of knee bar on that 3rd one but definitely get the points, unless it was sub only😏
my gym was just going over the spider guard last week but we were combining it with the lasso with the non-elevated leg. I’m definitely going to have to give this one a try. Bad ass video like always!
Professor thank you for this video because I’m always in the spider guard as a white belt and I hate it. Tonight is did the 3rd escape and it worked like a charm, therefore, moving forward these 3 spider guard counter/ escape are going to be my bread and butter!!! Osss...
That's unreal!!! I thought I was doomed forever because of getting caught in the (F######) Spider Guard. It's payback time with some hamstring therapy on Monday.
What do you do when there is no school near me. I have no money or ride either. All I have is a decent dummy and knee pads cuz mat is very small. Also no partner...am I completely fucked? But I feel like I'm learning ...and the technique it works on my friends at house parties. But they kinda do exactly what I'd expect them to do and just panic lol
Chum no I am 26 about ten years ago I did little hopkido and learned positions and kimura an arm locks from Mount n gaurd n didn't know it was bjj when I learned it. An simple trap an rolls so I M not a brand new white belt I've been watching bjj as a fan for about 8 years as well. But because I've been watching so long I know how clean stuff looks but really need mat time. I've never been to bjj school. Only know very basic stuff but compared to one of my friends who never even seen BJJ I'ma beast lol so I don't have anything near me at all that I can get to... Might have to save up for online shit...online belt or no belt is what comes down to. Either way I just want to do BJJ. Don't care about any ranks. I just enjoy rolling .
If you mean the low grip, then it's because you may not have the hip pinned I would think, I can't actually quite visualize what you mean. If you mean just as a grip break it's fine/bad --- fine as in it works, bad as in it can really fuck up people's fingers so more of a use with care thing.
Ronny Mo depends who I am training with... the longer someone trains they need to know when to let go as well. I'll walk over step on their bicep and pull... and the force I need is up to them. After pinning the arm or just pushing on the bicep if I can't pin it then I pull... if they insist and hold on that's on them
A. #2 is called the lawnmower pass. B. That's NOT spider guard. Anyone calling those grips spider guard has never been in a true spider guard. Now, before you disagree. I train at a Tinguiha affiliate academy. In case you don't know. Tinguiha is the man who invented spider guard.
Looks like spider guard to me unless you only play spider and collar and before you disagree, I'm a black belt under Samuel Braga and have trained with Romulo Barral and pretty sure they have showed those same grips as "spider guard" Chad and Chewy in my opinion have it right👍 Not trying to be a jerk but I really would like to know what you mean by true spider guard? The technique itself? The body position? More resistance?
Thanks, fellas! Have struggled with getting stuck in spider guard during sparring.. and if/when I do, I’m typically already exhausted.
Looooooove that 3rd one! It's moves like that one that simplify the concepts that just seem complex in jiu-jitsu
thanks for the video. Last night rolling with a black belt got caught on this all class... pretty frustrating haha
Ok, so I worked on pass 1 and 3 last night.
I have the following takeaways:
1. Giving someone who likes spider guard their preferred grips makes them happy.
2. The passes all work (Yay! --- not that I succeeded beyond step #2 on any of the passes, but it's clear that with drilling and more assertive movement I should be able to use them against non-passive training partners). Just the initial pinning for grip clearance and reset is useful on its own in any case.
3. The hard part isn't the movements, it's getting a feel for when the hip is actually pinned, especially with relaxed opponents who have good timing.
4. I was notably reminded that pass #3, unless done quickly will lead to leg locks. Repeatedly...
5. I was also told that #3 was only to be used on instructors. The look in my purple belt instructor's eyes told me he wished I was not allowed to use it. I found #3 was easier than the one where you pin the hip with the shin, because we worked on a very similar open guard pass a couple of weeks ago.
This leaves me to ask one (read three) question:
What constitutes a pinned hip and how pinned does it need to be? And how can I tell if it's pinned before moving?
All in all, very useful. I'll be watching this again tomorrow before class.
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Thank you! This was very helpful I am a white belt as a kid I struggle with the long videos because they are so long and normally I get bored and lose interest so it doesn’t make as much sense. And they talk a lot about different stuff which also makes me loose focus. But this was short,and you guys got straight to the point. Thank you again this was very helpful! 😊
Can you also do some more vids on getting out of mount and side control.
Thanks Chewy, white belt here last night I got a heal to the cheek trying shoulder pass my teammates leg. Definitely going to use these going foward
Just what I needed. Chewy is the man as always.
Thank you! This has helped me get to my next step.
This is great, can’t wait to try it. Thank you!!
The last one is what I do most of the time. Saves a lot of energy.
Funny that it was not the 3 I expected to see 👍 I really thought you were gonna slip in some kind of knee bar on that 3rd one but definitely get the points, unless it was sub only😏
your videos are awesome thanks
this is a great video thanks chewy needed this :)
Chad @2:30 LMAO! Thank you both for great vids and techniques!!!! (Need to go get caught in Spider guard and try this one out!)
I taught num 3 today we loved it
Do you can do this at 2:29 when the botton guy has the leg lasso and spider in the same time???
Can you go for the knee bar on the third spider pass you showed? Thank you
Break the wrist, walk away... Break the wrist, walk away.
It's that simple.
3:18 what if he holds your right leg?
my gym was just going over the spider guard last week but we were combining it with the lasso with the non-elevated leg. I’m definitely going to have to give this one a try. Bad ass video like always!
Professor thank you for this video because I’m always in the spider guard as a white belt and I hate it. Tonight is did the 3rd escape and it worked like a charm, therefore, moving forward these 3 spider guard counter/ escape are going to be my bread and butter!!! Osss...
Thank you for this. OSS!
Awesome! Thanks so much!
Super helpful, thanks!
Perfect 👌 - exactly what I was looking for...thanks!
my right hand is damaged still a year later after doing the spider guard . people shake my hand and it hurts like crazy !
Than you sir
Nice!
Can you make a sequel or part 2 video on how to deal with the spider lasso guard as well? Like what are your go to lasso guard passes?
back here to comment that number 3 worked finally I can counter his game :D
How do you pass a lasso spider?
great vid mate. cheers
Chewy could you address the foot on the hip version also?
Fun video! I just started a couple weeks ago, so all of this is new and helpful to me!
In technique 1, i get my leading ankle (on the leg that presses in) taken every time - once it is taken, it is over for me.
Exposing side like that is perfect position to switch into De La Riva and take the back :)
That's unreal!!! I thought I was doomed forever because of getting caught in the (F######) Spider Guard. It's payback time with some hamstring therapy on Monday.
Wish i would have watched this before class.
If the beast was doing spider correctly those counters wouldn’t work
#3 looks like you can injure their knee no?
On the last one why would u not go for an arm bar?
More specifically at 2:49
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What do you do when there is no school near me. I have no money or ride either. All I have is a decent dummy and knee pads cuz mat is very small. Also no partner...am I completely fucked? But I feel like I'm learning ...and the technique it works on my friends at house parties. But they kinda do exactly what I'd expect them to do and just panic lol
Chum couple hour drive away in the winter
Chum no I am 26 about ten years ago I did little hopkido and learned positions and kimura an arm locks from Mount n gaurd n didn't know it was bjj when I learned it. An simple trap an rolls so I M not a brand new white belt I've been watching bjj as a fan for about 8 years as well. But because I've been watching so long I know how clean stuff looks but really need mat time. I've never been to bjj school. Only know very basic stuff but compared to one of my friends who never even seen BJJ I'ma beast lol so I don't have anything near me at all that I can get to... Might have to save up for online shit...online belt or no belt is what comes down to. Either way I just want to do BJJ. Don't care about any ranks. I just enjoy rolling .
Thanks for the info. I got my ass handed to me from this guard over 5 times today and wish I knew these breaks
My biceps thank you.
Happy to help!
I think i need a badass beard like you have, so no one dares to spiderguard me🧔🤣
another one (dj khaled) min 1:39 jaja
Using a spider guard against a white belt is so mean lol
can you adopt me please
I prefer to step on their arm to break the spider guard
protocultureBJJ bad idea
Mischief559 ok why is that?
If you mean the low grip, then it's because you may not have the hip pinned I would think, I can't actually quite visualize what you mean.
If you mean just as a grip break it's fine/bad --- fine as in it works, bad as in it can really fuck up people's fingers so more of a use with care thing.
Ronny Mo depends who I am training with... the longer someone trains they need to know when to let go as well. I'll walk over step on their bicep and pull... and the force I need is up to them. After pinning the arm or just pushing on the bicep if I can't pin it then I pull... if they insist and hold on that's on them
Ronny Mo kinda like this
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31 minute mark
First
A. #2 is called the lawnmower pass.
B. That's NOT spider guard. Anyone calling those grips spider guard has never been in a true spider guard.
Now, before you disagree. I train at a Tinguiha affiliate academy. In case you don't know. Tinguiha is the man who invented spider guard.
Mischief559 invented?
Looks like spider guard to me unless you only play spider and collar and before you disagree, I'm a black belt under Samuel Braga and have trained with Romulo Barral and pretty sure they have showed those same grips as "spider guard" Chad and Chewy in my opinion have it right👍 Not trying to be a jerk but I really would like to know what you mean by true spider guard? The technique itself? The body position? More resistance?
Cool bro 👌