@@tammymorrowadvocate please explain what exactly you are talking about? I genuinely want to know what u are referring to but don't have time to rewatch again
Dont meet people you dont know in places you could be in danger folks Edit.. No victim blaming here. Just a warning that if you don't know someone dont be meeting them in a secluded place.
I used to try online dating - for a month as a LOT of strange people on these apps. The number of men (I'm a woman) who suggested meeting and/or going to my house or going close to their neighborhood / house the FIRST TIME was appalling. I say appalling as not one of my photos - with barely any skin showing - would indicate I'd be slightly interested in having them in my house or even near my house the first time.
If the victim was a woman, then the woke mob would be lighting you up for so-called "victim blaming," but the victim is a man this time, so they are silent.
most people are just fine and normal in those dating apps. its the main platform where you find people these days like with all Social Media but thats why, like back then, you have to be careful.
Agreed! I stopped online dating after the Kevin Bacon case and watching Web of Lies. Online dating just isn’t worth it nowadays. Glad you are staying safe!
Thus is just so sad. All the way around! The entire world is so scary nowadays, not just online dating! In all honesty, even meeting someone the old-fashioned way is dangerous too! Just what is one to do? It's sickening!!
Nope.. it's frowned upon a date for people from your work, nobody goes to church anymore, and nightclubs aren't really that fun unless you're early twenties.. pretty much every modern relationship these days starts on a dating app..
Why do this? Getting along is so much better. He could have had the guy leave since he wanted to and find someone else to play with. Offing people does not make anything better.
Everybody has different urges and temptations, what one man considers horrible another will consider amazing. It comes down to a matter of will, knowing the difference between right and wrong, having a conscience in the first place, and being raised right in order to deny the urges.
@@calebwood1663and mental health could be that he is a sociopath and already wanted to try something like this as a fantasy. I study true crime and this is sad but often similar outcomes
@@suzyq555 Who cares? The victim didn’t meet up with this psycho to be murdered. I wouldn’t want a man meeting a female escort murdered. And for the record, people use those other dating sites to hook up.
Have you ever had to carry an unconscious person? I unfortunately have had to lift a person who couldn't assist me themselves. I actually kinda believe him that the victim was too heavy... People underestimate how heavy we are until it's time to carry them.
But in that case they were already friends for years, so that's a different situation. Also, Taylor and Shad were at his mothers place, not in public, so I don't really understand why you made that comparison..
Y'all please don't look for love on the Internet. I'm sure some people have had luck, but really....the odds are not in your favor 😭 be safe out there! 🙏🏻
Yeah. I think the internet is amplifying what movies started...the widespread incidence of gruesome behaviour. There are too many lunatics on the loose today to take someones word for granted. Focus on being creative in your career and risk manage your personal life.
@@demontrader1222unfortunately some ppl just want a simple hook up and this is the usual avenue they take. And u usually end up with these creeps. Rip to the victim 😢
@mcmd2009 Many are. In this case, we shall never know. I err on the side of caution though. Even though I shoot straight, regular romance is just as risky.
So strange that people think that the people on dating sites are not at the grocery store when they meet people. All they did was get on a website. Same people. A background check should be done on the people they met anywhere.
@CooCooCallum Bay City is my hometown too. This case is bad enough, but what makes it worse is that it happened here in BC. And as you know, things like this just do not happen here. Its unfathomable. B.C. is thee quintessential, stereotypical small, friendly, hick town. Over the decades I have seen the murderous, criminal activity of Detroit makes it way north to Flint. And Flint creeped its way into Saginaw. And Saginaw is snowplowing its way into Bay City....unfortunately
@@calaannkihata umm hicks are some of if not the scariest types, and there are plenty down here in Metro Detroit too. Even crazier, or maybe not and where this psycho got his idea, is this exact thing happened between two men in Michigan a couple of years ago. The victim's name was Kevin Bacon. Pretty sure it was the same app too. Remember that one or never heard about it?
Why do people go to strangers houses? This is horrible what happened to this man. Meet people in public in very populated areas. And don’t get in strangers cars.
@RaZhanBreonna Nah mate, strangely enough he's a victim of the same kind of crime. Look it up, it's a very strange case, You'd think it would've turned any blokes off.
Amen!! And everything they go through mentally, emotionally and physically. They are trained, but they are human. They get traumatized and depressed like the rest of us.
@hanzwind Pretty much, you hear things, but usually, it's not as gruesome as this. Now the surrounding cities like Flint & Saginaw, Detroit now if you want to hear some stories they have them!!!
Crazy to see this in a channel I watch a bunch. This one happened in my hometown. No one had really seen anything like it there so it was definitely a shock to everyone having it so close to home.
Some helpful advice for meeting people on dating apps. FaceTime them before hand. Meet in a public location first. Let someone know where you’re going.
Dating apps have always been super sketchy to me. Like, wtf do you mean you go and spread it wide open to someone you just met? I mean I get hookup culture revolves around "Dating apps" nowadays but that concept is still super bizarre to me nonetheless.
Really? Jamming an Odoo promotion right after describing the mans passing? Thats tacky as ut gets. Shameless promotions to profit off of this mans tragic end. Not even finishing the video. Just distasteful
Happy being tucked up in bed at night, no way to dating apps I’ve never liked them! So many people assume safety without even considering their safety…… nuts!
I live in Bay city and it was a weird day when we heard this. That is a place I launch my boat and regularly go fishing, sometimes late into the evening. Freaky stuff.
YESSss Elizabeth! You look the part now! Hair, on point! Make up, suttle and lovely... its the septum ring, Sugar. Don't you have a family member or friend who'll be honest with you? It's so not for you in this position. Its so distracting to your beauty and report. Have you ever heard about the "if you have to ask yourself" rule? When you look in the mirror and if you have to as yourself... "is that too much"? Then the rule is, you must take something off! Too much, is gaudy. Beauty is simplicity and elegance. It's never "too much".
I'm lucky enough to have met my partner out on a jetty, before these apps were big. I couldn't even imagine meeting someone from online! Such a sad case, I'm glad this sicko is off the streets. Rest in peace 🙏
The level of violence and premeditation in this case is chilling. It’s hard to imagine what could drive someone to commit such horrific acts. I’m curious to see how the investigation unfolds, especially with the potential for more victims. Mental health evaluations will be crucial here
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Back in my day, it was insane to consider giving your address (or even name) to somebody you met on the internet. Now we pay for them to come to our door nearly daily.
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9:27 9:31 10:02 16:53
He got ground!
@@Jade-bz7kswhat about those time stamps?
Some people are horrible. This makes me very sick! May that poor young man RIP
Did u see the person in the top right corner on the video of the man providing an interview !!!!!!! Am I the only one who sees this !!!!!!! Omg
@@tammymorrowadvocate please explain what exactly you are talking about? I genuinely want to know what u are referring to but don't have time to rewatch again
@@tammymorrowadvocateWhat time stamp is it at?
@@tammymorrowadvocateI just looks like his wife or another family member, why the drama?
@@tammymorrowadvocateThe person in pink? Daughter or wife?
"I KNEW there was something strange about that guy!!"
-All of his neighbors
The same story EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
@zaq1337 🫵😆 Hey! I say that!
And the same people.
The flag is a dead giveaway
Dont meet people you dont know in places you could be in danger folks
Edit.. No victim blaming here. Just a warning that if you don't know someone dont be meeting them in a secluded place.
I used to try online dating - for a month as a LOT of strange people on these apps. The number of men (I'm a woman) who suggested meeting and/or going to my house or going close to their neighborhood / house the FIRST TIME was appalling. I say appalling as not one of my photos - with barely any skin showing - would indicate I'd be slightly interested in having them in my house or even near my house the first time.
If the victim was a woman, then the woke mob would be lighting you up for so-called "victim blaming," but the victim is a man this time, so they are silent.
Why isn't the woke mob putting you on blast for "victim blaming"? Oh, that's right, the victim is a man.
If the victim was a woman, you'd be accused of "victim blaming."
Nobody accusing you of victim blaming because it's a dude.
Thanks officers for taking this pos off the streets. May his victims rest in peace.🙏
There's weirdos in those dating site . Gotta be careful young man and ladies
I've heard lots from that one in particular. One really bad one here in the UK.
most people are just fine and normal in those dating apps. its the main platform where you find people these days like with all Social Media but thats why, like back then, you have to be careful.
It's not a dating site. It's site for gays
to meet strangers and fk no strings attached.
Butt pounding sites only have weirdos in them
My cousin shared her nudes (no face though) with a guy on one of these sites and they’re now circulating everywhere
..wonder if he's ever done this before bc he seemed quite calm and matter a fact with disposal etc
I was thinking the same thing 😢 wonder if there’s some missing young men prior to this event he’s definitely done this before
"He pushed him down the stairs and strangled him to death". ...and now a word from our sponsors....
yeah bad timing
@@user-pm5mw8zs8shonestly the cat relaxed me from this horrific story and the lady is nice.
I was like wait....WHAT? Lol
it's not a dating app. it's a hookup app. just keeping it 100%
Thank you as I'm told there is quite the difference
How would you know Michael ?
@@bblwarrantydepartment981you in the closet?
The gays are getting kinky these days. "Wanna Netflix and dismember?"....
@@bblwarrantydepartment981 The name, duh. JFC
Murder is Devastating enough, but Dismemberment goes Beyond Horrific! That Poor Man, and his Heartbroken Family!🥀🥀🥀🥀🕊🕊🕊🕊💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏
This is horrible. I will never understand how someone could do that to another human being. Rip to the young man.
How Traumatizing for Law Enforcement, too!🙏🙏🙏🙏
Absolutely. This is unbelievable footage. 😢😢😢😢😢
The bottom of the barrel are on those dating/hook-up apps. Stay away from them!
So you’re calling them…
Yes, 100% correct
Very very true. This is not the early 2000's
They are also roaming the streets of the same cities, states, countries and planet as you and I.
“Chopped up” in the title is really descriptive. I feel bad for the family to have to see something like this
True
Agreed
Omygosh, poor kid who found his remains 😞. I really hope he/she is ok.
RIP to the victim 🕊️
Must be traumatized now
He's fine and dandy
That….that is very grim. My gosh how sad. I can’t imagine how that must’ve been for the forensic workers.
One of the many reasons I quit online dating...
One of the many reasons I have never ever started trying online dating. Weird Nut Cases Trolling Lonely People!
Agreed! I stopped online dating after the Kevin Bacon case and watching Web of Lies. Online dating just isn’t worth it nowadays. Glad you are staying safe!
Let’s stop calling these “dating apps”. It’s a mischaracterization and is entirely inaccurate to to label them as such.
How sad man, nobody deserves to pass away like that. Rip Justie🩵
How totally terrible. So many psychopaths out there.
True that
How do you know?
@@zaq1337 Maybe you are one of them.
@@joannadechenne6368 😀i think you are right or is a psychobot
@@joannadechenne6368 Sounds like projection lol
Thus is just so sad. All the way around! The entire world is so scary nowadays, not just online dating! In all honesty, even meeting someone the old-fashioned way is dangerous too!
Just what is one to do?
It's sickening!!
Damn swat rolling in with suppressors, nice.
Don’t hook up with random people. Male or female.
Don't people just meet, in a club, at church, or work, and date, anymore? I'm 67, and haven't dated in 15 years.
Nope.. it's frowned upon a date for people from your work, nobody goes to church anymore, and nightclubs aren't really that fun unless you're early twenties.. pretty much every modern relationship these days starts on a dating app..
I go to church ❤
I met my partner at my kids school. Both single parents with daughters starting preschool
I'm 60, single for 7yrs. I don't care to date. I don't trust anyone.
@@WezleyBJust because you dont go to church doesnt mean everybody else doesnt go to church.
It is never ok to take someone's life, unless they're threatening to take you own!
Correct
@actual_doge3221 even threatening is not enough to murder someone in self defense. It is just a threat.
@@TheConqueror009 it depends on circumstances. Especially in your own home.
No one is safe when it comes to online dating. If someone makes you feel uncomfortable, always leave immediately.
@@call2872 I mean he try and get killed for it, if I'm uncomfortable I would try to act normal and them try to make a run for it etc
Risky hookup apps are not for the faint of heart. Lots of psychos on the Net... That poor man.
They don't just materialize from the aether and appear on the apps. They walk the same streets as you and I.
Why do this? Getting along is so much better. He could have had the guy leave since he wanted to and find someone else to play with. Offing people does not make anything better.
Everybody has different urges and temptations, what one man considers horrible another will consider amazing. It comes down to a matter of will, knowing the difference between right and wrong, having a conscience in the first place, and being raised right in order to deny the urges.
@@calebwood1663and mental health could be that he is a sociopath and already wanted to try something like this as a fantasy. I study true crime and this is sad but often similar outcomes
We will never understand sociopathic behavior
Sadly there are many messed up and sick individuals out there who get pleasure from harming and/or killing people.
So unnecessary and disgusting 😢 poor guy 😢
This is so sad
Stories like this make me want to live my life like a monk. LOL like a Have for the last 20 years. Sometimes its just not worth it.
I'm like that naturally. I scorn society. It's not kind.
Even men aren’t safe on dating apps. Beware everyone
They are hook up sites not dating sites.
The idea that men are safe is a sexist lie, men are more likely to be attacked walking alone at night than a woman is.
@@suzyq555 Who cares? The victim didn’t meet up with this psycho to be murdered. I wouldn’t want a man meeting a female escort murdered. And for the record, people use those other dating sites to hook up.
@@suzyq555lol
Men are already less safe than women if you look at the percentage of homicide victims that are men.
Have you ever had to carry an unconscious person? I unfortunately have had to lift a person who couldn't assist me themselves.
I actually kinda believe him that the victim was too heavy... People underestimate how heavy we are until it's time to carry them.
Almost impossible if you aren’t trained and even then very tough inside a house to carry a person around.
Monsters are real trust no one evilness never sleeps
"Evilness"? Wouldn't the word just be "evil"? Lol
Damn you can't even date anymore prayers for the victims family
Thats not dating its hooking up.
@suzyq555 and that's why these things happen
@@suzyq555 I call it what I want thank u
So many relationships start as random hookups from nights out or dating apps lol @@suzyq555
@@suzyq555that's not hooking up, it's hacking up
Damn that cold another Jeffrey dahmer type situation r.i.p to that dude no one deserve that type of death
Please meet in public places,still may still not be safe look at Shaubusiness.
Don't ignore red flags
We had a serial killer on that website here in the UK!
But in that case they were already friends for years, so that's a different situation.
Also, Taylor and Shad were at his mothers place, not in public, so I don't really understand why you made that comparison..
@@PazuzuM666 Steven port.
The sickening thing is how he wasn't caught sooner!
@@persephone9177they have no clue what they're talking about like most commenters. They spent their time reading other wrong comments
RIP young man.
Y'all please don't look for love on the Internet. I'm sure some people have had luck, but really....the odds are not in your favor 😭 be safe out there! 🙏🏻
Yeah. I think the internet is amplifying what movies started...the widespread incidence of gruesome behaviour. There are too many lunatics on the loose today to take someones word for granted. Focus on being creative in your career and risk manage your personal life.
@@demontrader1222unfortunately some ppl just want a simple hook up and this is the usual avenue they take. And u usually end up with these creeps. Rip to the victim 😢
He a man looking for a man that's why
They aren't looking for love.
@mcmd2009 Many are. In this case, we shall never know.
I err on the side of caution though. Even though I shoot straight, regular romance is just as risky.
So strange that people think that the people on dating sites are not at the grocery store when they meet people. All they did was get on a website. Same people. A background check should be done on the people they met anywhere.
Thats crazy Y'all are covering this this happened in my hometown
@CooCooCallum Bay City is my hometown too. This case is bad enough, but what makes it worse is that it happened here in BC. And as you know, things like this just do not happen here. Its unfathomable. B.C. is thee quintessential, stereotypical small, friendly, hick town. Over the decades I have seen the murderous, criminal activity of Detroit makes it way north to Flint. And Flint creeped its way into Saginaw. And Saginaw is snowplowing its way into Bay City....unfortunately
@@calaannkihata umm hicks are some of if not the scariest types, and there are plenty down here in Metro Detroit too. Even crazier, or maybe not and where this psycho got his idea, is this exact thing happened between two men in Michigan a couple of years ago. The victim's name was Kevin Bacon. Pretty sure it was the same app too. Remember that one or never heard about it?
@@calaannkihatawhat is a hick town??
Omg this title is like straight out of the movies 😳
@@Eric-10101 lowkey.. I expected the incident to be on bodycam. 😬🤣
In the Horror genre...
Nothing straight about it..
But it’s happened before…
Why do people go to strangers houses? This is horrible what happened to this man. Meet people in public in very populated areas. And don’t get in strangers cars.
Cant wait for the defense to say whatever in court...
The title plus the timing of the sponsorship gives this video a callous feeling…
It's like 'Kevin Bacon' all over again! Not worth it guys, stay away from these hook-up sites.
Yes that's what I just wrote! 😳
Kevin Bacon the actor?
@RaZhanBreonna Nah mate, strangely enough he's a victim of the same kind of crime. Look it up, it's a very strange case, You'd think it would've turned any blokes off.
Repects to the police officers for protecting the public ❤
Amen!! And everything they go through mentally, emotionally and physically. They are trained, but they are human. They get traumatized and depressed like the rest of us.
Dude got strangled and dismembered...
Lawyer's gonna charge him an arm and a leg.
shame on u
I was raised a 1/2 mile from that house. I'm still in disbelief. Things barely happen around there.
Until now! 😳
@hanzwind Pretty much, you hear things, but usually, it's not as gruesome as this. Now the surrounding cities like Flint & Saginaw, Detroit now if you want to hear some stories they have them!!!
It’s not a dating app it’s a hookup app and that’s why you shouldn’t be on that crap! Too many weirdos out there!
Poor man…
Was he in the middle of possibly doing it to someone else when the cops arrive?
“Chopped up” is crazy
Thank the internet for all the ills we have today.
Yea, violence was never a thing before the internet.
Dating apps get catfished way too often. Always meet several times in public. Keep your daily routine close to your chest.
I am not sure that even lets you know 100% who people are. Very sick and sad.
I object to the word catfished
@@jrap170 ??
@🤣🤣🤣
@@mgm153 you are right; I learned the hard way. 🙄
one of my greatest fears tbh. makes it so hard to meet people
Crazy to see this in a channel I watch a bunch. This one happened in my hometown. No one had really seen anything like it there so it was definitely a shock to everyone having it so close to home.
It amazes me, the vileness of people.😢
Poor man 😢
Let us pray that Robert receives the support needed for rehabilitation... punishment will only make him worse.
Some helpful advice for meeting people on dating apps. FaceTime them before hand. Meet in a public location first. Let someone know where you’re going.
This is not a dating App, its a hookup App.
@@suzyq555you’ve said this on at least 20 different comments… seek help
I’m sure they know gorll
Dating apps have always been super sketchy to me. Like, wtf do you mean you go and spread it wide open to someone you just met? I mean I get hookup culture revolves around "Dating apps" nowadays but that concept is still super bizarre to me nonetheless.
Rest in peace and no longer do you need to face the evil that lives with us in this world
*Rest in PIECES
Unfortunate.
But Man I admire the swat teams.
whoever is in the background at 10:15 got me laughing
The irony in the title is crazy 🤣🤣
😅
Bruh 😂
How is that “ironic” ? he did indeed got dismembered. No irony…
That pause after execute... I thought she was going to say the suspects name 🤣
Really? Jamming an Odoo promotion right after describing the mans passing? Thats tacky as ut gets. Shameless promotions to profit off of this mans tragic end. Not even finishing the video. Just distasteful
Why do I have a feeling that you're offended by just about everything
Buy premium TH-cam so that you don't have to see adverts
@@conniekabasharira7084I have premium TH-cam and the ad was built-in to this video.
Wow… you really WENT THERE with that video title, eh?
Hope the families miss this video.
On that advertisement, I’m worried about her part🤣
I just want to acknowledge the Gucci gear the state cops have lol. From the rifles to their carriers and holsters.
Happy being tucked up in bed at night, no way to dating apps I’ve never liked them!
So many people assume safety without even considering their safety…… nuts!
I live in Bay city and it was a weird day when we heard this. That is a place I launch my boat and regularly go fishing, sometimes late into the evening. Freaky stuff.
Yikes!!!
And they walk among us.
Over plucked that middle part😮
Try not to meet strangers on internet, it's just safer that way.
because your leg is the best place for a bodycam
EXACTLY like ?? wow what a great shaky and low angle!
That's so gross and inappropriate. Disgusting and disturbing....and he chopped the guy up!
I find this lady's voice very pleasant and relaxing
The name of the app wasn't a dead giveaway?!
that sponser plug was craaaazzyy 😭
is that cop's bodycam mounted on his knee or something? what an awful position
YESSss Elizabeth! You look the part now! Hair, on point! Make up, suttle and lovely... its the septum ring, Sugar. Don't you have a family member or friend who'll be honest with you? It's so not for you in this position. Its so distracting to your beauty and report. Have you ever heard about the "if you have to ask yourself" rule? When you look in the mirror and if you have to as yourself... "is that too much"? Then the rule is, you must take something off! Too much, is gaudy. Beauty is simplicity and elegance. It's never "too much".
I'm lucky enough to have met my partner out on a jetty, before these apps were big. I couldn't even imagine meeting someone from online! Such a sad case, I'm glad this sicko is off the streets. Rest in peace 🙏
The level of violence and premeditation in this case is chilling. It’s hard to imagine what could drive someone to commit such horrific acts. I’m curious to see how the investigation unfolds, especially with the potential for more victims. Mental health evaluations will be crucial here
Strange way of disposing of the body parts. Right out in the open.
they should be trained to not group up around propane tanks.
He and Taylor Schabusiness need to get together, geez. I pray he doesn’t have other victims out there, but wouldn’t be surprised if he does.
I would be so mad if I got chopped up!!!
Nobody is useing these apps for love. It would be nice for these so called reporters to call things what they are.
Bay City has better equipped SWAT than Traverse City!! FYI TC needs to up their game!!!
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Stop meeting ppl online period!!!
This is nuts out of this world cruel you pretty much invited the Devil n his demons to come walk into your house
My goodness I like watching this,but it never misses me how much violence there is in the US per capita
The world has gone mad ……
Back in my day, it was insane to consider giving your address (or even name) to somebody you met on the internet. Now we pay for them to come to our door nearly daily.
That's not what happened in this case. The victim went to the killer's house.
People have lost their damn minds. This case is evil on another level.
RIP to the victim. 💔
First date: public place!