I'm Lenape, my grandpa Chet Brooks just passed away this morning so that brought me here. He dedicated his life to the tribe so I wanted to learn more.
The folks talking about/making jokes about white Delaware Indians are showing just how uneducated they are. Do a small amount of research and you will find all sorts of mixing back as far as is recorded. Hell, I'll even give you an interesting starting place around 1757 with Kikthawenund. A mixed race chief... Yes..mixed with Swedish all the back in the 1750s. ;) Some of you act like blood was "pure" or a singular race of some specific sort until the last century and suddenly it's all white folk. Go read a little bit and stop gatekeeping things you are clueless about.
I come here, legitimately wanting to find out, about a tribe I know very little about. Instead, I find racist comments. It's really difficult for me to have faith in humanity right now.
Unfortunately there are a lot of fraudulent groups out there that call themselves Delaware’s or Lenape. Such as Delaware’s of Delaware, Ramapough, Nanticoke etc. There is enough documentation to show that they ARE NOT Lenape! Ramapough had DNA tests done in 2018 and the tests came back unfavourably for them! The Delaware’s of Delaware are actually ‘Moors’ and when I looked into the backgrounds of all 3, they had common ancestors, that came from the Dutch & their Slaves. They also come from the oldest black community it the USA, Gouldtown! They like to say they are Lenape and they stayed in the homelands while we ran away with our tails between our legs. What actually happened, a freed slave, so that he would be treated better, said he was a Delaware Indian. He then joined a war against Teedyuscung! Teedyuscung was a famous Lenape chief, who was also my ancestor! He was killed later due to questionable circumstances!
I am so happy to find this page. I had been told by my grandmother but not exactly which until doing research to find out. I have always carried something in my heart since I was little that tried to be killed in me. I live in the west and I met a Lenape Holy man anyway it would be a long conversation and years later that I find that my great grandfather had married a young Lenape bride. No one would believe it until I found a picture of 9 pictures put together and his was in the corner. it was a family picture. I have been told out west we were a weak tribe. Now I am elated to finally find out more of my beautiful great great grandmother who's heart I carry and the brave remarkable people she came from.
@@StevenOsburnHollywood They got good number in Oklahoma yet. And there's accounts of them in Texas in 1800's. Some worked as scouts for the army and I heard stories of them working with Texas Rangers I think in the 1830's. So they were out there scattered around alot of different parts of the plains and south west. And a few of the better known "plains tribes" were in fact originally woodland people's from the Midwest and great lakes regions. If I remember correctly(which I'm not 100%) the Kiowa who are usually considered or documented as a western tribe, are actually originally from the New England region. So it's very possible that she in fact may have met a Lenape. (really anywhere in the world in this day and age)
I just want to point out, that not every Delaware Indian, is a member of the Delaware Nation. A few, are actually members of the Cherokee Nation. That said, some aren't members of the Cherokee Nation either.
Kinda strange but My people are the Taino from Puerto Rico and I’ve lived out in nj my whole life, these people and this land feels more like mine than when I lived in Puerto Rico for a few months when I was 18... the raven the water the trees and everything is between r so beautiful even the dirt I walk on I love it’s smell. I live walking distance from the raritan river and she’s a beautiful river . Don’t think I could ever leave the eastern coastal area...
i am Lenni Lenape my family is from Oklahoma (Lucas/Miller family). I am now living in upstate NY. Would love to meet some of my people. We need to all come together again
William would like to have contact with you. There is a group of us Amish that have lenni lenape natives. We would love to have a celebration with our lenni lenape family
@@StevenOsburnHollywood sorry not all of the family relocated there were some who tried to stay. They suffered greatly and yes they mixed with at many tribes even the cherokee. Some even mixed in with people of color. My family told me we mixed where we thought we would not stand out.
Wow, I had no idea about Philadelphia. The Lenni-Lenape have always been a part of the history of where I grew up in NW New Jersey along the Musconetcong River. There was Waterloo Village, and a little further away in Stanhope or Byram, there was Lenape Valley High School and I'm sure many other places. Many of the towns I grew up around had names that likely had Native American origins (we called them Indians or American Indians, it feels a little awkward typing Native Americans, not that they shouldn't be referred to as such, it was just a different time). There's the towns of Allamuchy, Hopatcong, Lopatcong, Netcong and plenty more. I learned a lot about them in Girl Scouts in the 80's and our troop belonged to the larger Lenni-Lenape counsel. We learned so much about them, mostly about their culture. We recited one of their prayers and I still remember a little of it: "Oh Great Spirit whose voice I hear in the wind, whose breath gives life to all the world, hear me. I am small and weak and need your strength... " I forget the rest. I think I must have been somewhat fascinated by the Native Americans. I would walk by the river near Saxton Falls and imagine them being there getting water or bringing their kids to play or swim. Maybe there was a sense or a feeling of them there or something. As I got older, I learned more about the tragedies and the loss of their lands, but growing up, to me anyway, they never left.
Thank you for sharing your memories, it brought me to tears but also have the same feeling with you. Im praying against all occupations past present and future that will re-unite our ancestors with us today. ❤
Former Lake Hopatcong resident here. Very similar background. I'm 79 now. In my childhood days ya could still feel their spiritual presence. For most of 5th grade we had a sustitute teacher, Mr. Eckler. He taught the normal 5th grade curriculum, but the rest of the time he talked about the Lenape. He read to us from "Dickon Among the Indians," by Harrington. I think the title has changed a little. He had a pickup truck sized collection of artifacts, which he said he found mostly at Great Meadows. He told me of the submerged village of Pechquacock, which surfaces when the lake is lowered periodically. I've visited there many times, photographed fire-blackened circles of stones, a pile of flint chips where some ancient Lenape sat on a rock and made flint tools. I found a perfect full-grooved stone axe at Hopatcong State Park when I was 11. I was looking for one when I found it. There's a book - the Wallum Olum - an interpretation of the Lenape history. If you Google "Quaquahela," it's an interesting story about the spirit of a Lenape, killed by a bear, whose spirit is in the morning mist of the "River Styx." There's much more. If you respond, I'll give you further contact information.
Oh nice! I'm 50 now and grew up in Hackettstown not far from Stephen's State Park and spent a lot of time with friends up near Saxton Falls. I'm sure I've been to Lake Hopatcong but I don't know a lot about it. I've definitely been to Great Meadows and then there's Jenny Jump State Park up in Hope where a girl named Jenny supposedly jumped to get away from some Lenape Indians and was killed. I love those old stories whether or not some are more true than others. There's an observatory in Jenny Jump now too. I still live pretty close to those places and I definitely will check out Lake Hopatcong some time and that book if I can find it. The Lenape spirit is still here for sure. @@Skyhors3
I got a problem with folks saying we left my native ancestry is from Wilmington where I was born. My great grandfather was born a Lenape/Nanticoke in Seaford Delaware. And we never ever left Delaware. I still go to pow-wow's here every year. And last but not least we're Black. So I don't understand why people tell that lie we're not here.
@@g.scottakasuperearth If UR Indian it don't show, if that is UR image. U hide UR hair, but with an African face, U look like a full African woman & beautiful I may say. I read about Lenape & know most of them have African ancestry so I believe U about having a Lenape ancestor. All tribes do have ppl that R mixed with African or White. I have Lenape friends that have zero African ancestry but do have European ancestry. They look White with green eyes. I don't think there R any full-bloods left N their tribe. I do have documents too.
@stormy-le6pb African 🤣🤣🤣 my hair touches the floor dummy. I'm still in my no said birth record tidewater land. I don't care what you haters think nor feel I know who and what I am.
I am cherokee from Lenape origin my great grandfather was full blooded indian his last name was sarcoxie I'm finding out more as I go very proud of my heritage
My family are Nanticoke that have been in southern Delaware since the 1600's. My great 4x grandfather is David P. Street (1822-1911). If he's on your tree, then we're family.
most of the eastern tribes are mixed with black and white. it depends on whether you grew up with the tribal traditions or not. one of my 3x great grandmothers was lenape and by the traditional accounting i would be too. but with only 3-6% native blood and no tribal ties, i'm just another white girl.
Karen Snowdon-Way You are what your what foreparents are without doubt or contradiction. They dont care if you grew up in the culture or not but if your family was on the Dawes Rolls. If you have documentation of your 3x grandma being Indian regardless if your excepted or not you should honor where you come from. Thats it thats all. Family is family still cuzo
We are not black. You mean Most of the eastern people claiming to be Native. Most of those groups are not federally recognized as tribes. We were forced all the way to Oklahoma. Strange how so many claim to have stayed behind, hid in the hills and lived amongst the very people who wanted to kill them, gave them Smallpox blankets for a few hundred years. Impossible!
...Don't be mad our ancestors had game, seemingly the only people that stayed married into well off white families(who were disowned). Then it makes sense mixed communities would stay together. Just like some people cough cough glass house look completely white. Most people from eastern tribes are mixed raced by now, some look native some black some white and some are all miscellaneous looking lol. If you do some genealogical research and see who those white families were you might see a more interesting picture of why they can never be recognized.
@@tekenta-neter7944 You can acknowledge having Lenape ancestry and take pride in that, but that doesn't mean you actually are Lenape. Ethnic groups aren't defined by having a 2% genetic tie.
You had to live on a reservation when the rolls were taken and there were other rolls used when the Dawes Rolls were created. People who wanted to be Indian did not live on the tribe's communal property where everyone helped with everything. That reservation land was busted up into allotments. If you did not live with a tribe you did not get an allotment fool. Tribes know who their people are and are very aware of ousiders even today. Why don't you speak our langauage?
jerome miller it depends, tribes vary, by what they consider valid criteria for membership. The Dawes roll, was used for the Five Civilized Tribes, if you have an ancestor on that you can probably enroll in one of those tribes, keep in mind that a lot of Delaware were enrolled in the Cherokee Nation at the time. Some tribes, such as the Miami, which, like the Cherokee Nation is a federally recognized tribe, requires only that you have ancestry from that tribe or related to that tribe. You still have to prove it somehow, there are still rolls and documents you have to go over. Enrolling in an Indian tribe, is not easy. Sometimes, even if you are eligible for it, it's just more trouble than it's worth. You know, but if you do have that ancestry, that doesn't mean you can't be proud of it without being an official part of it.
my great great grandmother was Mary Wilford Campbell, my mom has her original writings describing her time and experiences while being held captive by them, and its a proud feeling to know her release was a key component to the first treaty the white man honored.
tamarahndrsn Were you of the New Sweden family line? Some of my genealogy connects right there. Rambo/Larson/Nilsson/Nilsdotter/Frande/Friend/Dalbo/Andersdotter/Anders and so on... just curious! I think we all need to sit down with our genealogical info/known family history, and figure this whole situation all out! The Lenape /Delaware Moor's/Six Nation's were very important to not only the ensuring the safety of the -- YES, JEWISH HEIR'S -- but the formation of the United States as a whole, and our story WILL BE TOLD, and THEY WILL ALL BE VINDICATED and be given what's owed them (I don't mean myself there -- I want nothing else but to find the closest to the truth of what happened and our histories that we can find out)!
Tell the truth about who we are and your roll with the European pretending the original American are from Africa ! Do your DNA test and let's see who has more (Moor) Native American DNA !
Great response. I have my DNA TO FIND THIS GREAT MAN, CHIEF white Eyes IS MY SIXTH GREAT GRANDFATHER.. WITH A COUPLE MORE chief S BEFORE THAT WERE MY uncle S. UNREAL TO FIND THIS in me by way of DNA ANCESTRY, FAMLY SEARCH AND MY HERITAGE
Moorish American 720 oh, great a black supremacist that thinks they're American Indian. Now, a lot of people are part black and part Indian, and to me if they are culturally Indian, I don't have a problem considering them Indian. But here's the thing, American Indians are not from Africa, any more than every human being is from Africa. This is ultimately, the cradle of civilization. I'm so sick of Afrocentricism. I am American Indian, white, black, and Chinese. It's not a big deal. Maybe if we stop looking at each other by the color of our skin, and looking at each other as brothers and sisters some of this stupid racist crap like these comments on here, no? You know, I put you right up there with the Ku Klux Klan in the American Indian movement, racist.
I just read all the articles on these tribes of all tribe of their ancestors inherent and the United States to pay their..annuties and even the money from their sales...this is want my annuties was trying to tell me..that that's in my photos with my aunties are all Delware....lenni-]enape + the other tribes
The government gave them a treaty to act like the real Delaware indians that Google says is in Canarsie Jamaica queens , Longisland New Jersey brown Indians
Found it interesting how the Delawares somehow got to become trappers out west and scouts for the army and was trying to find out more on how that happened
We are not black. You guys claim you are the original Jews and now you claim to be us and then you say the first Americans are the aboriginal of Australia lol. If aborigines were the first Americans, or Africans, they would've had corn in Australia and Africa. But they didn't. Corn aka Maize is Indigenous to the Americas. We invented it. Corn in the Bible was cereals, barley and wheat. Corn was a new word later adapted to maise from the Americas. Use your brain!
That's weird bc everybody knows original peoples are darker in color what they call Negro or copper colored or "black". strange who are these mixed hybrids???...
NEGROES are NOT NATIVE. Just be proud of who you are instead of claiming "hebrew", "muslim/moor" or Native. You people must really hate yourselves alot to always be trying to claim that which you are not. Geez!
@skyandQuill Strange U don't know Indians been mixing with whites 4 500 yrs now, so obviously many Indians R going 2 look white or black if mixed with black. Full blood Indians think Indians mixed with blacks look like strange mixed hybrids too. U can't stop miscegenation. If Indians didnt have babies with other races there wouldn't B any strange hybrids.
A few years ago I became interested in the pre-Colombian history of America. Recently, new genetic research has been able to give credence to the Red Record, the history of the Delaware people and their arrival in America. However, it was stolen from them years ago by a man who said there was no way that it was true and nothing but stories. The histories of tribes that split off from the Delaware also seem to back up the Red Record, giving dates and places to when the splits occurred.
At this point in time - we are all loving shades of all our ancestors, the point is they will only be acknowledged by us now and carried on with us and our children. We know they traveled many places and mixed within groups just like we do now hello! Don’t let the “governments “ divide us forever and keep us fighting a battle for nothing. We know they created those birth certificates in the early 1900s and before that record keeping was not on a computer! Keep an open mind and heart to understand and learn from the past so our legacy doesn’t die. I was born here by great water and have seen a chief before me and was told that my great great grandmother on my fathers side was full blood Cherokee they were in Missouri. The last name was Bullah. Anyone who has 1% of Native blood can feel it and know it’s there. That is what matters ❤
I am Buckman from William Penn holy experiment. Who came off the Welcome and took lenilenape as wife and had many descendants. My people come from Bucks county.
There are no $5.00 Indians. They had to live on a reservation when the rolls were taken and there were other rolls used when the Dawes Rolls were created. People who wanted to be Indian did not live on the tribe's communal property where everyone helped with everything. That reservation land was busted up into allotments. If you did not live with a tribe you did not get an allotment fool. Tribes know who their people are and are very aware of ousiders even today. Strange how there were no pictures of you at Wounded Knee Massacre in 1890 among the dead or at the Wounded Knee occupation in 1973? Because you were not there. You are not Lenape or Cherokee or even Native.
Federal and State Recognized Tribes; www.ncsl.org/research/state-tribal-institute/list-of-federal-and-state-recognized-tribes.aspx U.S. Federally Non-Recognized Indian Tribes; www.kstrom.net/isk/maps/tribesnonrec.html if they don't sign a treaty they are not recognized. FOOL!
Non-recognized tribes are just wannabe clubs. They aren't Indigenous to Turle Island like us. The grandfather tribe are called Lenni Lenape (the original people).
@@StevenOsburnHollywood fact's I'm from Delaware my family is Cephas and Hacketts. My great grandmother was a pure bred black native. My fathers twin goes every year to pow-wow. And be angry when he returns. Each year it got whiter and whiter. These ppl are not us.
Indigenous people should be invited into society and recognized as the original settlers and be integrated into society providing v as family units have the same standard of cleanliness and hygiene establish by the middle classes to ensure they can achieve the same as everyone else in a fast-developing society worldwide.
That's my birth place,toms river...lenape blood in the luker family,back to my eighth great grandma,princess Ann sun cloud, married to the founder of toms river,Thomas luker...my eighth great grandfather.
Indian tribes N the eastern states began having babies with whites & blacks way B4 Indians N the west did, so there R many Indians N the east who are bi-racial or tri-racial. There are probably more tri & bi racial Indians N those tribes than there are that are 100% Indian.
The Nanticoke’s left the east with us when we left the area in the mid 1700’s. Some stayed and joined the Iroquois Nations in NY and Moraviantown, Ontario, Canada, others moved west as far as California,
@@theresajohnson4639 yes and some tried to stay on the reservation that was in Mexico Ohio where they tried to starve my people. That post office they built there took away the trading post that was set up for our bartering.
Those are white People claiming they stayed behind just like the fake Pequot who never proved they are who they say. Reagan signed a paper making them a tribe. He was an idiot.
There was no Lenape left behind. Those people that you talk of are frauds., race shifters, stealing cultural, language and traditions that are not theirs. I had a conversation with chief Bottle Washer and he claimed he was 100% Munsee-Delaware until I showed him his own family documents for a few generations that state he is “colored”, “negro”, NOT Native American. Chief Bottle Washer has now blocked me on everything because I keep telling on his heritage. Lenape people and their families are very well documented. Today the those frauds like to say we are racist but that don’t fly either. In all our communities, we have people that may have white or black heritage, but we know who these people are and we accept them as our own because they are.
There are a lot of "Pretending Indiand". We need only to look at our people's pictures and letters from the first European colonial explorer's and Websters 1828 definition of the true Brass Burn Copper Colored Aboriginal Indigenous Indians (Non Caucasian and Non Immigrant) people's. The truth is coming out, thank God and many impostors are being outed.
I swear this de facto system got us all confused and causing futile debates, however, peace to all my fellow moors and I give honors to the merri moors who created this corporation 🇲🇦
I am proud to be Lenape/Deleware
As am i but not proud of our history
Same!. My grandmother was named Rhea June Beaver. Only meet her a handful of times but she was definitely interesting!
I'm Lenape, my grandpa Chet Brooks just passed away this morning so that brought me here. He dedicated his life to the tribe so I wanted to learn more.
The folks talking about/making jokes about white Delaware Indians are showing just how uneducated they are. Do a small amount of research and you will find all sorts of mixing back as far as is recorded. Hell, I'll even give you an interesting starting place around 1757 with Kikthawenund. A mixed race chief... Yes..mixed with Swedish all the back in the 1750s. ;)
Some of you act like blood was "pure" or a singular race of some specific sort until the last century and suddenly it's all white folk. Go read a little bit and stop gatekeeping things you are clueless about.
proud to be Lenape. NATIVE PRIDE.
Leni lenape..toms river NJ...since 1690....
I come here, legitimately wanting to find out, about a tribe I know very little about. Instead, I find racist comments. It's really difficult for me to have faith in humanity right now.
You should thank that vicious ass Neanderthal for that bs..
Unfortunately there are a lot of fraudulent groups out there that call themselves Delaware’s or Lenape. Such as Delaware’s of Delaware, Ramapough, Nanticoke etc. There is enough documentation to show that they ARE NOT Lenape! Ramapough had DNA tests done in 2018 and the tests came back unfavourably for them! The Delaware’s of Delaware are actually ‘Moors’ and when I looked into the backgrounds of all 3, they had common ancestors, that came from the Dutch & their Slaves. They also come from the oldest black community it the USA, Gouldtown! They like to say they are Lenape and they stayed in the homelands while we ran away with our tails between our legs. What actually happened, a freed slave, so that he would be treated better, said he was a Delaware Indian. He then joined a war against Teedyuscung! Teedyuscung was a famous Lenape chief, who was also my ancestor! He was killed later due to questionable circumstances!
I am so happy to find this page. I had been told by my grandmother but not exactly which until doing research to find out. I have always carried something in my heart since I was little that tried to be killed in me. I live in the west and I met a Lenape Holy man anyway it would be a long conversation and years later that I find that my great grandfather had married a young Lenape bride. No one would believe it until I found a picture of 9 pictures put together and his was in the corner. it was a family picture. I have been told out west we were a weak tribe. Now I am elated to finally find out more of my beautiful great great grandmother who's heart I carry and the brave remarkable people she came from.
You did not meet a Lenape holy man. You are talking about plains Indians.
@@StevenOsburnHollywood They got good number in Oklahoma yet. And there's accounts of them in Texas in 1800's. Some worked as scouts for the army and I heard stories of them working with Texas Rangers I think in the 1830's. So they were out there scattered around alot of different parts of the plains and south west. And a few of the better known "plains tribes" were in fact originally woodland people's from the Midwest and great lakes regions. If I remember correctly(which I'm not 100%) the Kiowa who are usually considered or documented as a western tribe, are actually originally from the New England region. So it's very possible that she in fact may have met a Lenape. (really anywhere in the world in this day and age)
Great Spirit guide and protect all in your ways and please allow the balance to restore the Earth.
p.s my family has be in downing town ,cheaster ,coats vill since the 1600's as far as the records have recorded
I’m a proud Hawaiian-Israelite my nancoke family mixed with the I can’t pronounce the real name but the long hair clan went and mixed with Hawaiians.
Outstanding !!!
Nice...Interesting....Native Languages of the Americas:
Munsee Delaware (Minsi, Muncey, Minisink)
I'm lenape/Delaware and don't know much about my heratige.ide like to find out how to be recognized by the tribe.just want to know my oragin
As a British citizen, my country would recognize all Indian tribes as true Indigenous Americans
But it should be real Native Americans not from these fake groups.
The real biblical isrealites from the tribe of gad......
@@briananderson8204 no cannanites
Eelunaapeewii Lahkaawiit from Canada.
I got a question, Do the modern lenape Delaware's have a word in their language Mo-lun-the?
$5 Indian! Lmao Lennape is not this guy! Stop the Crap!
I just want to point out, that not every Delaware Indian, is a member of the Delaware Nation. A few, are actually members of the Cherokee Nation. That said, some aren't members of the Cherokee Nation either.
Are the ones that are members of the Cherokee Nation identify as ethnic Cherokee people now and not as Lenape anymore?
So do you feel better, now, that you threw a dispersion? Who benefitted by what you said?
Kinda strange but My people are the Taino from Puerto Rico and I’ve lived out in nj my whole life, these people and this land feels more like mine than when I lived in Puerto Rico for a few months when I was 18... the raven the water the trees and everything is between r so beautiful even the dirt I walk on I love it’s smell. I live walking distance from the raritan river and she’s a beautiful river . Don’t think I could ever leave the eastern coastal area...
You are so beautiful ❤❤
My name is Darian i am the decedent of the Lenape, i am glad you enjoy my ancestors land one love in indigenous solidarity
The island of burikano(or) is America still Tainos migrated there 311ad for south America speaking Latin and Hebrew
@@lesjones5684wow. I am embarrassed for you.
i am Lenni Lenape my family is from Oklahoma (Lucas/Miller family). I am now living in upstate NY. Would love to meet some of my people. We need to all come together again
William would like to have contact with you. There is a group of us Amish that have lenni lenape natives. We would love to have a celebration with our lenni lenape family
Thank you William. These fools commenting didn't know we were relocated to Oklahoma.
My great great grandmother was Delaware indian a small group live at 6 Nations Reserve in Ontario.
@@PeaceWarriorNative a group of Lenne Lenape joined the Amish?
@@StevenOsburnHollywood sorry not all of the family relocated there were some who tried to stay. They suffered greatly and yes they mixed with at many tribes even the cherokee. Some even mixed in with people of color. My family told me we mixed where we thought we would not stand out.
Wow, I had no idea about Philadelphia. The Lenni-Lenape have always been a part of the history of where I grew up in NW New Jersey along the Musconetcong River. There was Waterloo Village, and a little further away in Stanhope or Byram, there was Lenape Valley High School and I'm sure many other places. Many of the towns I grew up around had names that likely had Native American origins (we called them Indians or American Indians, it feels a little awkward typing Native Americans, not that they shouldn't be referred to as such, it was just a different time). There's the towns of Allamuchy, Hopatcong, Lopatcong, Netcong and plenty more. I learned a lot about them in Girl Scouts in the 80's and our troop belonged to the larger Lenni-Lenape counsel. We learned so much about them, mostly about their culture. We recited one of their prayers and I still remember a little of it: "Oh Great Spirit whose voice I hear in the wind, whose breath gives life to all the world, hear me. I am small and weak and need your strength... " I forget the rest. I think I must have been somewhat fascinated by the Native Americans. I would walk by the river near Saxton Falls and imagine them being there getting water or bringing their kids to play or swim. Maybe there was a sense or a feeling of them there or something. As I got older, I learned more about the tragedies and the loss of their lands, but growing up, to me anyway, they never left.
Thank you for sharing your memories, it brought me to tears but also have the same feeling with you. Im praying against all occupations past present and future that will re-unite our ancestors with us today. ❤
Former Lake Hopatcong resident here.
Very similar background. I'm 79 now.
In my childhood days ya could still feel their spiritual presence.
For most of 5th grade we had a sustitute teacher, Mr. Eckler.
He taught the normal 5th grade curriculum, but the rest of the time he talked about the Lenape.
He read to us from
"Dickon Among the Indians," by Harrington. I think the title has changed a little.
He had a pickup truck sized collection of artifacts, which he said he found mostly at Great Meadows.
He told me of the submerged village of Pechquacock, which surfaces when the lake is lowered periodically.
I've visited there many times, photographed fire-blackened circles of stones, a pile of flint chips where some ancient Lenape sat on a rock and made flint tools.
I found a perfect full-grooved stone axe at Hopatcong State Park when I was 11.
I was looking for one when I found it.
There's a book - the Wallum Olum - an interpretation of the Lenape history.
If you Google "Quaquahela," it's an interesting story about the spirit of a Lenape, killed by a bear, whose spirit is in the morning mist of the "River Styx."
There's much more. If you respond, I'll give you further contact information.
Oh nice! I'm 50 now and grew up in Hackettstown not far from Stephen's State Park and spent a lot of time with friends up near Saxton Falls. I'm sure I've been to Lake Hopatcong but I don't know a lot about it. I've definitely been to Great Meadows and then there's Jenny Jump State Park up in Hope where a girl named Jenny supposedly jumped to get away from some Lenape Indians and was killed. I love those old stories whether or not some are more true than others. There's an observatory in Jenny Jump now too. I still live pretty close to those places and I definitely will check out Lake Hopatcong some time and that book if I can find it. The Lenape spirit is still here for sure. @@Skyhors3
I got a problem with folks saying we left my native ancestry is from Wilmington where I was born. My great grandfather was born a Lenape/Nanticoke in Seaford Delaware. And we never ever left Delaware. I still go to pow-wow's here every year. And last but not least we're Black. So I don't understand why people tell that lie we're not here.
U got a problem Bcuz UR not being truthful.
@stormy-le6pb I have documents, buried ancestors here and still present here. What you got???
@@g.scottakasuperearth If UR Indian it don't show, if that is UR image. U hide UR hair, but with an African face, U look like a full African woman & beautiful I may say. I read about Lenape & know most of them have African ancestry so I believe U about having a Lenape ancestor. All tribes do have ppl that R mixed with African or White. I have Lenape friends that have zero African ancestry but do have European ancestry. They look White with green eyes. I don't think there R any full-bloods left N their tribe. I do have documents too.
@stormy-le6pb African 🤣🤣🤣 my hair touches the floor dummy. I'm still in my no said birth record tidewater land. I don't care what you haters think nor feel I know who and what I am.
Has anybody seen Russell Means and 1989 senate committee hearing?
i'm delaware from six nations
I would love to get in touch with you! I have the family tree going back to the mid 1700’s and you are probably a part of it
I am cherokee from Lenape origin my great grandfather was full blooded indian his last name was sarcoxie I'm finding out more as I go very proud of my heritage
My family are Nanticoke that have been in southern Delaware since the 1600's. My great 4x grandfather is David P. Street (1822-1911). If he's on your tree, then we're family.
most of the eastern tribes are mixed with black and white. it depends on whether you grew up with the tribal traditions or not. one of my 3x great grandmothers was lenape and by the traditional accounting i would be too. but with only 3-6% native blood and no tribal ties, i'm just another white girl.
Karen Snowdon-Way
You are what your what foreparents are without doubt or contradiction. They dont care if you grew up in the culture or not but if your family was on the Dawes Rolls. If you have documentation of your 3x grandma being Indian regardless if your excepted or not you should honor where you come from. Thats it thats all. Family is family still cuzo
We are not black. You mean
Most of the eastern people claiming to be Native. Most of those groups are not federally recognized as tribes. We were forced all the way to Oklahoma. Strange how so many claim to have stayed behind, hid in the hills and lived amongst the very people who wanted to kill them, gave them Smallpox blankets for a few hundred years. Impossible!
...Don't be mad our ancestors had game, seemingly the only people that stayed married into well off white families(who were disowned). Then it makes sense mixed communities would stay together. Just like some people cough cough glass house look completely white. Most people from eastern tribes are mixed raced by now, some look native some black some white and some are all miscellaneous looking lol. If you do some genealogical research and see who those white families were you might see a more interesting picture of why they can never be recognized.
@@seriouslyhatin bro this is my granmoms TH-cam in need you to leave her alone please it was four years ago No one gives a Frick
@@tekenta-neter7944 You can acknowledge having Lenape ancestry and take pride in that, but that doesn't mean you actually are Lenape. Ethnic groups aren't defined by having a 2% genetic tie.
I am black and the great great grand son of a Delaware Nation mother and father WILL I BE recognized as a descendant of the LANAPE ?
You had to live on a reservation when the rolls were taken and there were other rolls used when the Dawes Rolls were created. People who wanted to be Indian did not live on the tribe's communal property where everyone helped with everything. That reservation land was busted up into allotments. If you did not live with a tribe you did not get an allotment fool. Tribes know who their people are and are very aware of ousiders even today. Why don't you speak our langauage?
do the DNA IF YOU HAVE NOT .
I am the Sixth greats granddaughter of Chief White eyes. by way of DNA
jerome miller it depends, tribes vary, by what they consider valid criteria for membership. The Dawes roll, was used for the Five Civilized Tribes, if you have an ancestor on that you can probably enroll in one of those tribes, keep in mind that a lot of Delaware were enrolled in the Cherokee Nation at the time. Some tribes, such as the Miami, which, like the Cherokee Nation is a federally recognized tribe, requires only that you have ancestry from that tribe or related to that tribe. You still have to prove it somehow, there are still rolls and documents you have to go over. Enrolling in an Indian tribe, is not easy. Sometimes, even if you are eligible for it, it's just more trouble than it's worth. You know, but if you do have that ancestry, that doesn't mean you can't be proud of it without being an official part of it.
@@CheranePefley I live in Moraviantown Ontario Canada. There are a lot of Whiteye’s descendants here that still carry his name.
@@CheranePefley there were 3 Captain Whiteye’s....
My great great great great great grandfather was black beaver chief of deleware Indians and native American scout
When did Debra Dotson become the President of our tribe?
my great great grandmother was Mary Wilford Campbell, my mom has her original writings describing her time and experiences while being held captive by them, and its a proud feeling to know her release was a key component to the first treaty the white man honored.
You should consider publishing those materials or sharing them. Primary sources are so rare in history.
Proud decendent of Sarah Smith (Delaware Lenni Lenape) & Allen Madison (Cherokee-Shawnee)
My grandmother always told me we have Delaware Indian ancestry and this really helped me learn a bit more about it thank you!!!
I am decended from Chief Big Thunder, his daughter Anna Brightlight. Also Karrenhappuck, daughter of Indian Maiden Unk. ( Leni-Lenape)
tamarahndrsn
Were you of the New Sweden family line? Some of my genealogy connects right there. Rambo/Larson/Nilsson/Nilsdotter/Frande/Friend/Dalbo/Andersdotter/Anders and so on... just curious! I think we all need to sit down with our genealogical info/known family history, and figure this whole situation all out!
The Lenape /Delaware Moor's/Six Nation's were very important to not only the ensuring the safety of the -- YES, JEWISH HEIR'S -- but the formation of the United States as a whole, and our story WILL BE TOLD, and THEY WILL ALL BE VINDICATED and be given what's owed them (I don't mean myself there -- I want nothing else but to find the closest to the truth of what happened and our histories that we can find out)!
@@user-ot6kl9oj2g Yes, we are. I am Tammy's cousin
I am also descendent of Bright Lightning her daughter Sarah Friend married my Grandpa Peter Bilderback. My deepest respects always...Heidi Bilderback
@@user-ot6kl9oj2g How come there are a swedish line? Is it from this line chief Anderson came? I'm happy to know more about this.
@@user-ot6kl9oj2g How come there are a swedish line? Is it from this line chief Anderson came? I'm happy to know more about this.
Tell the truth about who we are and your roll with the European pretending the original American are from Africa ! Do your DNA test and let's see who has more (Moor) Native American DNA !
Great response. I have my DNA TO FIND THIS GREAT MAN, CHIEF white Eyes IS MY SIXTH GREAT GRANDFATHER.. WITH A COUPLE MORE chief S BEFORE THAT WERE MY uncle S. UNREAL TO FIND THIS in me by way of DNA ANCESTRY, FAMLY SEARCH AND MY HERITAGE
Moorish American 720 oh, great a black supremacist that thinks they're American Indian. Now, a lot of people are part black and part Indian, and to me if they are culturally Indian, I don't have a problem considering them Indian. But here's the thing, American Indians are not from Africa, any more than every human being is from Africa. This is ultimately, the cradle of civilization. I'm so sick of Afrocentricism. I am American Indian, white, black, and Chinese. It's not a big deal. Maybe if we stop looking at each other by the color of our skin, and looking at each other as brothers and sisters some of this stupid racist crap like these comments on here, no? You know, I put you right up there with the Ku Klux Klan in the American Indian movement, racist.
This is all legit Delaware Nation of Western Oklahoma Chisholm blood love lenni lenape unami pukuwanku...
My 9th great grandfather was Thomas Luker and he married Ann Suncloud.
I just read all the articles on these tribes of all tribe of their ancestors inherent and the United States to pay their..annuties and even the money from their sales...this is want my annuties was trying to tell me..that that's in my photos with my aunties are all Delware....lenni-]enape + the other tribes
The government gave them a treaty to act like the real Delaware indians that Google says is in Canarsie Jamaica queens , Longisland New Jersey brown Indians
I belong to my mother and the tribe of her mother's mother's back to Nancy Ketchum that i know. Turtle clan Delaware.
I was always told I had Delaware and Cherokee but don't know for sure and have confirmed Native American dna but 23&me doesn't tell you what tribe.
14 years late to the video but why are we using "Delaware"? That was given to us by the Europeans. Call us by our real names.
My great great great great grandfather is Henry Tiblow
I hate when they say “the original Americans “. This simply isn’t true. They were the first inhabitants of this land mass.
Found it interesting how the Delawares somehow got to become trappers out west and scouts for the army and was trying to find out more on how that happened
We are not black. You guys claim you are the original Jews and now you claim to be us and then you say the first Americans are the aboriginal of Australia lol. If aborigines were the first Americans, or Africans, they would've had corn in Australia and Africa. But they didn't. Corn aka Maize is Indigenous to the Americas. We invented it. Corn in the Bible was cereals, barley and wheat. Corn was a new word later adapted to maise from the Americas. Use your brain!
My ancestors were of the first of the Delaware tribe to settle in the now, state of Indiana
My family still live in northern Indiana ❤️
Hello I have many artifacts. Lenape tribe.
Effigies and everything. From the Delaware. River. I want to donate them.
I am not lena[e. I am from a tribe that was from the explorers that came up into new york.
to preserve culture you must first take back your land and anything else that belonds to you!
White settlers and Delawares all together who call each other Grandfathers..we have nothing to do with that..
That's weird bc everybody knows original peoples are darker in color what they call Negro or copper colored or "black". strange who are these mixed hybrids???...
NEGROES are NOT NATIVE. Just be proud of who you are instead of claiming "hebrew", "muslim/moor" or Native. You people must really hate yourselves alot to always be trying to claim that which you are not. Geez!
@skyandQuill Strange U don't know Indians been mixing with whites 4 500 yrs now, so obviously many Indians R going 2 look white or black if mixed with black. Full blood Indians think Indians mixed with blacks look like strange mixed hybrids too. U can't stop miscegenation. If Indians didnt have babies with other races there wouldn't B any strange hybrids.
lies.
My ancestor settlement is from an outsider into my tribal water way.
not my grandfather tribe yall way different then us
Chief "White Eyes?"
Maybe that's what "Tamanend" meant, in the Lenape language.
Both are in my tree…same?
Greetings from Finland, from "white men who wash themselves like you" :)
jarmo tverin yeah, this shit is hilarious. They look like Europeans.
@@haashimkelly5594 dude you look African Fuck off
You people are not the ORIGINAL NATIVES 🙄😒
I’m from Delaware last name Mosley
Tht treaty ruined everything 😒
A few years ago I became interested in the pre-Colombian history of America. Recently, new genetic research has been able to give credence to the Red Record, the history of the Delaware people and their arrival in America. However, it was stolen from them years ago by a man who said there was no way that it was true and nothing but stories. The histories of tribes that split off from the Delaware also seem to back up the Red Record, giving dates and places to when the splits occurred.
Why he look just like the colonist😂 he ain’t no Lenape. They said they were moors
We natives don't live up your racist expectations lol
“moors” stfu conspiracy theorist
I live in Delaware!!!!!
At this point in time - we are all loving shades of all our ancestors, the point is they will only be acknowledged by us now and carried on with us and our children. We know they traveled many places and mixed within groups just like we do now hello! Don’t let the “governments “ divide us forever and keep us fighting a battle for nothing. We know they created those birth certificates in the early 1900s and before that record keeping was not on a computer! Keep an open mind and heart to understand and learn from the past so our legacy doesn’t die. I was born here by great water and have seen a chief before me and was told that my great great grandmother on my fathers side was full blood Cherokee they were in Missouri. The last name was Bullah. Anyone who has 1% of Native blood can feel it and know it’s there. That is what matters ❤
I'm Lenape and am actually first cousin with current Chief Killscrow.
I am Buckman from William Penn holy experiment. Who came off the Welcome and took lenilenape as wife and had many descendants. My people come from Bucks county.
So that's what they call a $5.00 Indian
There are no $5.00 Indians. They had to live on a reservation when the rolls were taken and there were other rolls used when the Dawes Rolls were created. People who wanted to be Indian did not live on the tribe's communal property where everyone helped with everything. That reservation land was busted up into allotments. If you did not live with a tribe you did not get an allotment fool. Tribes know who their people are and are very aware of ousiders even today. Strange how there were no pictures of you at Wounded Knee Massacre in 1890 among the dead or at the Wounded Knee occupation in 1973? Because you were not there. You are not Lenape or Cherokee or even Native.
Federal and State Recognized Tribes; www.ncsl.org/research/state-tribal-institute/list-of-federal-and-state-recognized-tribes.aspx
U.S. Federally Non-Recognized Indian Tribes; www.kstrom.net/isk/maps/tribesnonrec.html
if they don't sign a treaty they are not recognized. FOOL!
Non-recognized tribes are just wannabe clubs. They aren't Indigenous to Turle Island like us. The grandfather tribe are called Lenni Lenape (the original people).
@@StevenOsburnHollywood fact's I'm from Delaware my family is Cephas and Hacketts. My great grandmother was a pure bred black native. My fathers twin goes every year to pow-wow. And be angry when he returns. Each year it got whiter and whiter. These ppl are not us.
@@g.scottakasuperearth Wow!
Indigenous people should be invited into society and recognized as the original settlers and be integrated into society providing v as family units have the same standard of cleanliness and hygiene establish by the middle classes to ensure they can achieve the same as everyone else in a fast-developing society worldwide.
Despicable treaties
That's what I was saying to my daughter. I hope she changes her mind about enrolling
I am of the Nanticoke Lenape Clan-4th Great Grandfather
been told I was a Delaware Indian but wasn't told what Indian name?? But what ever I am I am a proud Delaware Indian
Who told you that you are Delaware? Not all Delaware have Indian names.
I'm Delaware as well
How does that make you one? Ethnicities aren't based on a single ancestor from generations ago. You're just a European and always will be.
Lenape from NJ pine barrens mixed with the Quakers in Tuckerton. Bamber,Barnegat,Manahawkin, forked river, Tom's river miss my central jersey home
That's my birth place,toms river...lenape blood in the luker family,back to my eighth great grandma,princess Ann sun cloud, married to the founder of toms river,Thomas luker...my eighth great grandfather.
who are these white people??
Steven Osburn my comment hit a spot, huh? Got you acting out like a bitch😂😭😭. Enjoy the rest of your day, girl..😆
Steven Osburn 😂😂Wow.. You actually typed all of that?? Welp, back to my workout.. 💪😏 ✌.. #NoFucksGiven 😘
OH, that's why I didn't see you in the wounded knee photos. You pressed your hair that morning.
aworiyah Israel imposters
Indian tribes N the eastern states began having babies with whites & blacks way B4 Indians N the west did, so there R many Indians N the east who are bi-racial or tri-racial. There are probably more tri & bi racial Indians N those tribes than there are that are 100% Indian.
Lenape, the original people.... who is Debra Dotson?
delaware nation 💪
Yes
Just Checking In ... Thanks!
They've even stolen are skin color.
Global Economy?
The original name was nanicoke until they decided to name the tribe after lord Delaware they merged with Leni Lenape.
The Nanticoke’s left the east with us when we left the area in the mid 1700’s. Some stayed and joined the Iroquois Nations in NY and Moraviantown, Ontario, Canada, others moved west as far as California,
@@theresajohnson4639 yes and some tried to stay on the reservation that was in Mexico Ohio where they tried to starve my people. That post office they built there took away the trading post that was set up for our bartering.
Nanticokes were a neighboring nation of the Lenape, they are different.
@@sarban1653 yes I know they were different but Europeans group them together I know some of them are my family
Not all of the Delaware nation left. They are still tribes in Delaware and New Jersey.
Those are white People claiming they stayed behind just like the fake Pequot who never proved they are who they say. Reagan signed a paper making them a tribe. He was an idiot.
Very true
There was no Lenape left behind. Those people that you talk of are frauds., race shifters, stealing cultural, language and traditions that are not theirs. I had a conversation with chief Bottle Washer and he claimed he was 100% Munsee-Delaware until I showed him his own family documents for a few generations that state he is “colored”, “negro”, NOT Native American. Chief Bottle Washer has now blocked me on everything because I keep telling on his heritage. Lenape people and their families are very well documented. Today the those frauds like to say we are racist but that don’t fly either. In all our communities, we have people that may have white or black heritage, but we know who these people are and we accept them as our own because they are.
$5 indians
$1 NEGRO 😂
N.A. are born from Indian parents & they weren't charged by the drs. 2 B Indian when they were born. They were born Indian. Free of charge.
There are a lot of "Pretending Indiand". We need only to look at our people's pictures and letters from the first European colonial explorer's and Websters 1828 definition of the true Brass Burn Copper Colored Aboriginal Indigenous Indians (Non Caucasian and Non Immigrant) people's. The truth is coming out, thank God and many impostors are being outed.
I am a Nanticoke born in Dorchester county Md! I am a Carroll and these people are white people pozing!
Who is this white man all of the Delaware Indians I know or black
You don't know many then.
I was just told that the Delaware nation has no land or reservation or settlement land?
I swear this de facto system got us all confused and causing futile debates, however, peace to all my fellow moors and I give honors to the merri moors who created this corporation 🇲🇦
Moors are Moors, that comment didn’t even need to be on here.
Looks white to me hahahaha