The Messed Up Origins™ of Rip Van Winkle | Folklore Explained - Jon Solo

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  • @tracyz9155
    @tracyz9155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +402

    I grew up reading every fairy ale, fable, folk tale and regional tall tale I could find. That’s why I’m happy to find more information about these stories. I love fanciful and magical tales. I didn’t realize that Rip Van Winkle wasn’t well known. For years this story added extra fears to camping trips. Plus some truly gruesome Appalachian ghost stories like “Helen go forth”. Thanks for all the extra fun.

    • @BlueberryFundip
      @BlueberryFundip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Fairy ale sounds yummy

    • @Neoentrophy
      @Neoentrophy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@BlueberryFundip NOOOO don't do it, that's how Rip got into this mess

    • @tianahorsey-daydreamer8962
      @tianahorsey-daydreamer8962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I also grew up on this story and had no idea that other people didn't. Lol it's a wild world!

    • @jevinday
      @jevinday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had no idea that van winkle died. RIP.

    • @psalm5187
      @psalm5187 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Muslims unfortunatly believe that this story (seven sleepers of Ephesus) was written by the god named al-lah and appears in the Quran via the angel Jibreel and the false prophet Mohammed. Someone is telling pork pies (lies).

  • @celticpoet21
    @celticpoet21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    There is a story very similar to this from a collection of Chinese folktales called "Tha Rainbow People by Laurence Yep". The story is called "The homecoming". It's about a woodcutter who is like Rip, but is also very easily distracted. He's always happy to help others and give advice but neglects his own work, chores and his wife. One day, she has to escort him out of the villiage to get him to go chop wood and warns him not to talk to anyone. He soon literally bumps into a couple of old men (who are saints) playing chess in the woods and soon can't resist hanging around watching their game and giving advice. The game goes on for what seemed like 7 days, and the players decide to call the game a draw and wonder that the woodcutter is still there and tell him to go home. Like Rip, he sees his equipment rusty, etc. When he eventually goes home, someone else is living in his house. When he tells the school teacher his name, the teacher recalls in the clan record book that a woodcutter had left the villiage thousands of years before and never came back.

    • @GingerBeard24
      @GingerBeard24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Diana North That's really neat!

    • @ashleymcconnell3369
      @ashleymcconnell3369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That seems like an interesting story!!!

    • @eccentricthought4511
      @eccentricthought4511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thats what he gets for not keeping his mouth shut when seniors are playing a game . He was truly courting death .

    • @celticpoet21
      @celticpoet21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eccentricthought4511 Yeah, and for not keeping his priorities straight.

    • @Mack_Kenzie
      @Mack_Kenzie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeeeeesssss!! This is the story! I knew id heard something like Rip Van Winkle before but I could t remember what it was called! Thamk you sm! 😁

  • @theperksofbeingabookworm906
    @theperksofbeingabookworm906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    “If 2022 is anything like 2021 the human race is doomed.”
    Truer words were never spoken.

    • @vince11harris
      @vince11harris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This aged well 😬

    • @dwaynethemineraljohnson412
      @dwaynethemineraljohnson412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vince11harris HOW do you mean. this year is so much better exept if you live in eastern europe

    • @vince11harris
      @vince11harris ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dwaynethemineraljohnson412 dude this was 5 months ago.

    • @canaisyoung3601
      @canaisyoung3601 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It wasn't too bad, but life has always been full of crap we have to get through in order to live it. If you feel like sleeping through it is the only way to deal, then, in the words of Lois Griffin on "Family Guy": "Here's a bottle of Ambien and a Sylvia Plath book. I'm going to leave the room and whatever happens, happens."

    • @neochrist33
      @neochrist33 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2024 and only seems to get worse lol WW3 here we come....

  • @karandavis5197
    @karandavis5197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have been looking up the claims of Christians destroying temples and stuff during the time of Decian and could find none. The Christians refused to offer sacrifices for the emperor (because we don't do blood sacrifices) and that started the wave of persecution. Christians did not start actively destroying temples until later during the rule of Constantine. the story of the Seven Sleepers was used during the time of Theodosius as proof of the resurrection.

  • @Fred100159
    @Fred100159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I loved that detail about Rip's wife dying from bursting a blood vessel in her head while yelling at a peddler....
    Even back then, the storyteller didn't give an Old Hen any respect.

    • @canaisyoung3601
      @canaisyoung3601 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, did they do anything to earn it?

  • @bradwolf07
    @bradwolf07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I think Rip was happiest to hear his wife would no longer be nagging him thanks to his power nap...she sounds like she had anger issues and Rip was just the wrong guy for her to marry...

    • @c5365
      @c5365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Not really, it sounds like Rip was a friendly, affable sort of guy, but couldn't hold down steady employment responsibly. That means his wife and children may have been dressed in rags and on the verge of starving, or at the very least, stressed from being too poor. I get why she'd be angry with him for goofing off all day.

  • @DannyJane.
    @DannyJane. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    As a native New Yorker, and a person who lived in the upper Hudson River area for a large part of my life, I was so pleased to read your salute to one of my favorite tales, Washington Irving's Rip Van Winkle. I've read it many times, but even as a youngster, I have held an unpopular point of view about the way the story is slanted. The one thing that always bothered me was Washington Irving's cruel slamt against poor Dame Van Winkle, an unfortunate lady for whom Irving never even saw fit to give a name.

    Rip's wife is tagged with the most unflattering terms, the mildest of which is "shrew". She has a sharp tongue and berates him constantly, even though Irving shows us in the clearest possible language how she came to be that way. The tale tells us outright that Rip's a loser! He will not hold down a job, he will not work his own land, and he's full of excuses. Rather than living up to his obligations, he's a drain on the scant family resources. Think about it. If you read about someone not blessed by Washing Irving's lyric prose, my guess is that you wouldn't be as sentimental no matter how nice the guy was..

    But it's not enough that he will do nothing for the people to whom he has an obligation, he's quite willing to be at the beck and call of the rest of the community. Irving tells us that anyone in the village can obtain his time and energy just for the asking. So instead of being productive in any form whatsoever at home, he hangs out at the tavern. He has cultivated an amiable and sweet manner which earns him sympathy rather than well-deserved censure.

    Meantime, his nameless wife is trying to make a home for him and the children. She must do all the work, not only her own usual tasks--which in that time were considerable--but his as well. Money must have been extremely tight, and she's stuck with a spouse who refuses to contribute anything. His physical and emotional remove doesn't just distance him from her--but to their seriously neglected children as well. Her own offspring go undisciplined and ragged--she certainly hasn't got time to look after them properly while struggling to keep them alive--while he's away playing with every other kid in town. She must scrimp and watch helplessly as he wastes the few family resources down at the pub. Yet Irving calls her a termagant. His prose is gentle to her useless husband, calling him mild-mannered and kindly, glorifying Rip Van Winkle who neglects his family to point of abuse, and all the while condemns Dame Van Winkle for being angry about it.

    Imagine living for years like that and think what it could do one's spirit. Me, I wouldn't have wasted my breath, I have tossed that loser out of the house. In the end, it must have been quite a relief for her when Rip disappeared. I am guessing she never gave it voice, but she must have felt some secret satisfaction that what little she might have been able to bring in but could go to the benefit of her children. rather than ending up in the pockets of the taciturn Nicolas Vedder, owner of the town's inn,

    • @DrDolan2000
      @DrDolan2000 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I see when you mean. As kind as someone can be, they should be called out for when they mess up
      Makes me wonder why Rip got married and started a family in the first place seeing as how he's far less than suited to take care of one

    • @pluggy86
      @pluggy86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a folk tale, not an in depth character study. Irving saw him as a lovable rogue. I don’t know if he viewed the Dutch as lazy.
      You’re right on the merits. This is not “War and Peace.” Take it or leave it. I just think you protest too much.

  • @alexiswelsh5821
    @alexiswelsh5821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    He was also referenced in Fairly Odd Parents. It was the episode where Timmy wishes no one can sleep.

  • @TroyPacelli
    @TroyPacelli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    BEST INTRO EVER!! Liked. Already subscribed.

    • @BiancaBabe
      @BiancaBabe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same!

    • @jonathonrobinson6081
      @jonathonrobinson6081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Perpetual victims often do like having their self-imposed victimhood being vindicated.

  • @benkenobisgirl
    @benkenobisgirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I remember reading/hearing this as a child and I was very sorry for Rip Van WInkle for losing 20 years. I've always been scared of death, so maybe that's why. And your puppers are darling!

  • @juliannagoodwin2875
    @juliannagoodwin2875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My intro to Rip Van Wrinkle was an episode of Happily Ever After: Fairy Tales for Every Child. It was a show apart of HBO’s children show line up. I only remember watching it once, but I still remember it bits and pieces of it.

    • @jadacampbell9331
      @jadacampbell9331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad ypu referenced this! I was just thinking of that episode

  • @justineck5664
    @justineck5664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I once slept from Paris Texas to Lake Pontchartrain in a military convoy doing 35mph on our way to operation Katrina. I woke up and couldn't see land anywhere, we were just driving on a highway that was in the middle of the water. I was scared out of my mind until I decided i was fine with death.

    • @TheRealNormanBates
      @TheRealNormanBates 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is Lake Pontchartrain the same one depicted in Lucio Fulci's *The Beyond* (specifically the scene on the bridge with the blind girl)?

    • @justineck5664
      @justineck5664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheRealNormanBates yes, that's the one.

  • @srayj
    @srayj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The story is very different than I thought it would be, but I love how you go into the details and explain everything.
    Have you ever done a messed up origins of the Sandman? I started wondering about it around Christmas since you did Jack Frost from Rise of the Guardians and the Santa Clause 3, both of which also feature Sandman.

  • @DoubleDealingDisarray
    @DoubleDealingDisarray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I watched the 1978 claymation Rip Van Winkle. Geez Louise, was it a trippy film. There are actually tales of fairies doing the very same sleep thing with people in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and England (which I am somewhat familiar with) and other places. Usually, it involves someone finding a bunch of fairies dancing around in a ring (of mushrooms) and the unsuspecting person joins in the dancing, drinking and eating the fairy food offered (Never eat fairy food!). The person passes out and wakes up a long time later, usually years passed their lifespan. When someone tells them the year/time period, the long-lived person crumbles to dust. Or something like that. It's been years since I've read the old fairytales.

    • @hospitalgal101
      @hospitalgal101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm so glad that my memory of that wasn't a fever dream

    • @DoubleDealingDisarray
      @DoubleDealingDisarray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@hospitalgal101 I wondered the same until I looked it up. Just looking at the pictures weirds me out.

    • @YourQueerGreatAuntie
      @YourQueerGreatAuntie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's a pretty common trope in British and Irish folktales and mythology. You're right - it's the (faery) drink what does it! Interesting that Irving included that detail in his story.
      I think the Irving (Van Winkle) story shares a historisicing project with some of the Xtianised Irish stories (the ones where the returning person crumbles to dust after being baptised). It contrasts a "before" and "after" of some civilisational shift i.e. the coming of Xtinity / the American Revolution

    • @DoubleDealingDisarray
      @DoubleDealingDisarray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@YourQueerGreatAuntie It's funny how those stories last in different, yet similar ways despite everything that tries to get rid of them. Also, fairies and ghosts have been considered one and the same, just older than most ghosts. Such as the Milesians who conquered Ireland and the previous people, the Tuatha de Danann (I believe, if I remember correctly) went "underground"/died. After that, the people who resided in Ireland believed the Tuatha de Danann were fairies. Similar things happened in England/Scotland/Isle of Mann, etc. But it's been a while, so don't quote me. X)

    • @DoubleDealingDisarray
      @DoubleDealingDisarray 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Hyperskreem 82 I'm so sorry. X) Thankfully, I was too young and perturbed to pay attention to the lyrics.

  • @gusjerge9539
    @gusjerge9539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The Roman Empire was already falling apart when christianity was on the rise. Not only were they persecuted by several emperors, but the Roman men in particular starting marrying Christian woman a lot, which I’m sure had something to do with the change in culture.

    • @nayyarrashid4661
      @nayyarrashid4661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was not called Christianity at that time though.

    • @jonathonrobinson6081
      @jonathonrobinson6081 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Roman Empire lasted until the 15th century AD.

    • @Sergi25026
      @Sergi25026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@nayyarrashid4661 It kinda was though. Many Roman historians, including Tacitus and Pliny the Younger, referred to them as “Chrestianus”. The Church later edited the “e” to an “i” to correct the spelling error.

    • @Ryodraco
      @Ryodraco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      And from what I've seen, the Darkening Age used as his source is considered horribly biased, inaccurate, etc. and is seen quite negatively by most scholars.

    • @JonSolo
      @JonSolo  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      There were obviously many events and factors that led to the Roman Empire’s decline. I’m not blaming ancient, radical Christians for the fall of the Empire. I’m saying they destroyed its culture: burned its greatest libraries, knocked down its temples, defaced statues of the gods, etc.

  • @ms.nicole7174
    @ms.nicole7174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Can totally relate to feeling completely exhausted with the BS this year already and last

    • @jghifiversveiws8729
      @jghifiversveiws8729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They don't call it twenty-twenty too for no reason.

  • @peng1luver259
    @peng1luver259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I feel sorry for poor Rip Van Winkle, when I read it, almost everyone who knew him had died.

  • @petestoutenburgh1412
    @petestoutenburgh1412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Great video. The slight additions in editing make a big difference in keeping it very entertaining. Keep up the amazing work!

    • @JonSolo
      @JonSolo  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      thanks Pete! 👊🏼

  • @dominiczibuda5232
    @dominiczibuda5232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My father figure had told me the story back when I was a tiny child, sleeping for a hundred years seems dangerous

  • @Ryodraco
    @Ryodraco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    13:45 I hope you're not relying too much on that one book in your views on the time period. The Darkening Age, to quote wikipedia: "received extensive criticism from professional scholars of late antiquity and the Middle Ages, who accused it of telling a simplistic, polemical narrative and exaggerating the extent to which early Christians suppressed aspects of older Greek and Roman cultures."
    The wikipedia page lists a lot of quotes from a lot of scholars, all but one of them at least partially negative, and give the impression this book was terribly biased and misrepresented many things. Even a scholar who agreed that more attention should be paid to wrongs Christians did to Rome, found that in the process Nixey had heavily downplayed the Roman society's own flaws.
    There are multiple sides to most stories, and seldom can blame be placed squarely on any one group, especially when a group is huge and diverse, and this book doesn't give much attention to counter arguments, to the point that the reader would leave with the impression the writer's claims are uncontested. In particular I am bothered that this book apparently perpetuates the myth that the middle ages were a period of blind faith and intellectual stagnation. I thought it had long been established that the "dark ages" were not really a thing.

    • @jonathonrobinson6081
      @jonathonrobinson6081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What you say has been long established only with those that are uncomfortable with myths. This guy lives for myths.

    • @Ryodraco
      @Ryodraco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@jonathonrobinson6081 which is fine, so long as they are noted to be myths.

    • @anayelisoria37
      @anayelisoria37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Considering how christians behave today (yeah today 2022) makes pretty easy to believe the things on that book are 100% truth. Religion has always been behind the worst parts off human history, Imperialism, war, countless genocides, the crusades, sexual violence, pedophilia, blind faith, slavery, the holocaust, etc. You may say this is human nature and that all of that existed before the Middle Ages, that's true, but is also undeniable that Christianity and Catholicism REALLY want to put their personal twist on it. Me, personally have rejected any type of organized religion and I honestly believe if Jesus have existed he would be very very disppointed by humanity.

    • @Ryodraco
      @Ryodraco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@anayelisoria37 I'd say it's more truthful to say religion has been used as an excuse/justification for imperialism, war, genocides, etc. that were motivated more by the desire for more land and resources or the elimination of enemies both real and perceived. One can also argue that morals promoted by various religions are a major reason why so many of those practices became seen as wrong over the ages.
      And the fact remains that most scholars regard The Darkening Age's claims as being exaggerated, misleading and in some cases outright false.
      Lastly, of course Jesus would be disappointed by humanity. Humanity being horribly flawed and in need of a savior, and incapable of ever earning said saving, are some of the central tenets of Christianity.

    • @logankearl8115
      @logankearl8115 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Ryodraco I totally agree with you. People are so quick to have a scapegoat: religion, ethnicity, or political parties. Life unfortunately can't be boiled down to religion: bad, Me: good. Religious freedom opens the door to many other freedoms.

  • @1anastudent
    @1anastudent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There are also stories of fairies and elves guiding people into realms where hours there are years in the real world.

  • @sarahsnow9088
    @sarahsnow9088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great video! I learned so much about this subject in the last 16 minutes that I had to show the hubby. I too am over this "can't see your family or friends unless _______ " situation since it has put a damper on every important event for everyone we care about! Just had my birthday yesterday and I remembered that the messed up origin of Capricorn is coming up soon!

  • @Marialla.
    @Marialla. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    To me, this story sounds like a rotten deadbeat dad/husband who went on walkabout for 20 years, then wandered back home with a tall tale to excuse his absence. He's totally overjoyed to now get to be a deadbeat living off his daughter with nobody expecting anything useful out of him anymore.

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Rip Van Winkle lost 20 years of his life. He never was drafted to the war, he never attended the wedding of his kids, he never get to the funeral of his wife and friends.
    But the question remains...is he related to the one who sang that gibberish rap known as "Ice, ice baby"?

    • @bradwolf07
      @bradwolf07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't forget the itty bitty "ching"

    • @TheRealNormanBates
      @TheRealNormanBates 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bradwolf07 or the NInja Rap!
      Go ninja, go ninja, GO!

  • @Manganra7
    @Manganra7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When you started the episode, I thought you were joking when you asked if any of the younger generation knew about Rip Van Winkle. Me: “of course I know who he is!” I feel old now. I’m only 35.

  • @zenagitana
    @zenagitana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm a book worm that read every myth and fairytale I could growing up. I remember seeing a TV show about RVW, and thought I knew the story. Guess I was wrong! I had no idea it was based in New York.

    • @helenamirian908
      @helenamirian908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What makes that hard to understand is that at the time it was written, New York was still largely inhabited by Dutch immigrants and, in the context of a fairy tale setting, seemed more like Europe.

    • @pluggy86
      @pluggy86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@helenamirian908By then most would have been generations removed from the Netherlands. I remember seeing the ceremony at the Dutch church in Fishkill. The oldest tombstones from the 17th century are in Dutch, but the rest are in English.

  • @lenbaribault6652
    @lenbaribault6652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use to walk across the rip van winkle bridge in Catskill new york when i lived there

  • @user-vu1hh2yq7p
    @user-vu1hh2yq7p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That is so cool! Right now I'm writing a novel with a similar theme, and I've stumbled across a few more stories. My favorite is about Urashima Taro. Well, he spent 3 days eating and drinking into the underwater palace of the dragon king, but when he got home, 300 years have passed, so it still falls under the same category. There's a Chinese legend from the 5th century or so, called Ranka or Lanke. I'm not gonna retell them, but the sleeping-for-years motive can also be found in the stories about the Indian king Muchuukunda, another Indian king Kukudmi, the Irish Niamh and Oisín, The Voyage of Bran, another Irish legend, the jewish schollar Honi HaMe'agel, the novel The Sleeper Awakes, and the fairy tale The princess and the iron shoes. Also, I didn't really read Rip van Winkle, so thank a bunch for the retell [and don't tell anybody].
    And...
    Please do the months in Bulgarian folklore, and make series on Stephen King and Japanese Mythology! Pretty please!

  • @chrissyr8387
    @chrissyr8387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember Happily Ever After Fairytales for every child did a version of the story from the wife's perspective. It can be a little preachy at the end, but I think it was a pretty nice retelling.

  • @LoraZenta
    @LoraZenta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "He took a power nap that lasted 57 years. The weird part is that he was still tired."
    No, that sounds about right. 🙃

  • @simonaalmeida6589
    @simonaalmeida6589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I thoroughly enjoyed this. Just what I need rn. Thanks Jon 💜

  • @xpkareem
    @xpkareem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hmmm. Jon a little salty about Christianity.

  • @hannahlarge5738
    @hannahlarge5738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ah jon solo, you sweet summer child, wait until you're trying to explain to little deidrich what the world was like when you were a teen, you'll understand the appeal of a story about a dude who feels like twenty years just vanished.

  • @rubyambler2005
    @rubyambler2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great job as usual! I never was very excited about the story but I was excited to see a "Jon Solo" video!

  • @angie-iy4by
    @angie-iy4by 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We really appreciate the amount of research and effort goes into your videos! ANOTHER DAY ANOTHER SLAY

  • @tamarasmith9060
    @tamarasmith9060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've always wondered if the story is just supposed to make you think about what you want out of life in a philosophical sense. Do you want to "sleep" your way through life lazily & wind up with not much (lost his wife, home, & missed his kids growing up) or do you want to put in more effort now, working hard to prepare for the future & hardly have time to make friends or be a good neighbor? Those are the extremes & what usually makes most people happy in the long run is finding that work/fun balance. In the story it seems Rip's marriage wasn't that great, he & his wife weren't suited for each other & her wanting more than just barely getting by caused her to berate him often. He didn't change his attitude or life as a result of his lost time, showing that he truly deep down was the kind of person that didn't want a lot & had faith that things would always be fine. So he's the "lazy" extreme. You have to reflect on what your personality type/stress tolerance is & weigh it against what you want out of life. It isn't necessarily wrong or bad if you are 1 extreme or the other instead of in the middle like most, but you have to realize you will one day see the results of your chosen path/attitude so you better choose wisely or the result is highly likely to be very different from what you wanted.

  • @EBThisThat
    @EBThisThat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Irving was known for Sleepy Hollow as well. Both stories are a couple of my absolute favorites. Have you ever looked into Little Nemo or Winken, Blinken and Nod ? Both revolve on stories involving sleep, and I'd love to know what your thoughts are.

    • @AndrewVelonis
      @AndrewVelonis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Glad to see there's someone else familiar with Little Nemo.

    • @EBThisThat
      @EBThisThat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndrewVelonis The only reason I’m familiar is because of the old comic series, the story and the failed anime film. It had potential, honestly. I wrote a much-needed sequel.

    • @lindseyleslie3366
      @lindseyleslie3366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland is a movie I remember watching when I was very young and it was terrifying.

    • @eileengalindo4949
      @eileengalindo4949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lindseyleslie3366 I loved it lol.

  • @laskmj24
    @laskmj24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved reading this story as a kid!! One year, I even dressed as Rip Van Winkle for Halloween!

  • @christinaknapp1980
    @christinaknapp1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My first introduction to Rip Van Winkle was through the PBS series "Wishbone". The titular character would play out the story while trying to apply its moral or use it as inspiration to help his owner (Wishbone is a dog, fyi) resolve a conflict. Can't remember how this episode went, just that they had the dog play Rip Van Winkle.

  • @Hello_Fuckers0
    @Hello_Fuckers0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I live in the Catskill mountains area, I've definitely heard of him.

  • @GoatNamedBruce
    @GoatNamedBruce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I always thought this story had some roots in attempting to explain comas. Rip probably did go up the mountain after his goat but fell and experienced some kind of brain injury and "sleeping" for 20 years. Obviously doesn't explain who took care of him for 20 years, but makes sense that he would be confused by the passage of time and why some of the older folk even remembered his disappearance.

  • @amyeaton882
    @amyeaton882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i didn't grow up reading fairy tales and didn't hear about Rip Van Winkle till my favorite PBS show, Wishbone did an episode about it. Love hearing the backstory to this story!

  • @meshangatphoh3034
    @meshangatphoh3034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was one of those kids that grew up reading every kind of fairy tale and story. All the folk Lore i could find. This is why finding this channel has been so great for me, gives me alot more information about all these stories I've read.

  • @conniecarroll747
    @conniecarroll747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's been a very long time since I read Rip Van Winkle so have forgotten how he came to fall asleep. Thanks.

  • @annaizzaguerrero
    @annaizzaguerrero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Hi. Jon solo .thank you for sharing another story. I really love hearing about different people and characters.Especially
    Today. It cheered me up a bit.
    For a while.With my husband'
    Passing yesterday and dealing with planning everything. I always appreciated your videos .thank you so much.
    My husband would watch a few videos with me..💔❤️‍🩹😟

    • @JonSolo
      @JonSolo  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I’m so sorry for your loss Annaizza. I truly appreciate you sharing such kind words with me in this difficult time. Remember, the ones who love us never really leave us.❤️ Your husband will always be with you.

    • @annaizzaguerrero
      @annaizzaguerrero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you

    • @krjsln
      @krjsln 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry for your loss..may he Rest in Peace

  • @bridgettebrown9031
    @bridgettebrown9031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes you’re back!!

  • @madelinerock6951
    @madelinerock6951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG IVE WAITED FOR THIS!!!

  • @thejennzee04
    @thejennzee04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you do the messed-up origins of Swan Lake? For the many animated movies that tried to recreate the Disney format there was only one that has stood out my childhood and that was the Swan Princess, along with that one line of dialogue from it that lives rent free in my head, "You should write a book. How to offend women in five syllables or less."

  • @LuinTathren
    @LuinTathren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These stories have similar elements to the Japanese story of Urashima Tarō and the Irish story of Oisín.

  • @bestman33
    @bestman33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    New year and I still love your opening music Jonny boy

  • @xxandrewwilsonxxable
    @xxandrewwilsonxxable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rip van wrinkle drank away his sorrows.... Became an alcoholic for 20 years in a drunken daze. Sobriety made him realize that happyness and life awaited him back at home.... But time had already passed and so had his life.

  • @Luke-uf3jw
    @Luke-uf3jw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this video so much!
    A similar story happened in one of the books of Brian Froud.
    A man sat under a tree in the forest, listening to the fading melody of elven/pixie music, which can have interesting but often negative effects on humans.
    He listened as the song ended and opened his eyes, finding the tree he layed under dead. Then he went to town and his old house.
    A young man, his grandson, opened the door. The old man introduced himself and the young man said: 'I've heared my father tell me about your dissapearence many times.'
    Then, the old man turned to dust on the doorstep.
    The end.
    Edit: The name of the sleeping man in the book is Shon ap Shenkin.

  • @turkeybeard2010
    @turkeybeard2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've always found this story relatable when out hunting, sitting in the blind or under a tree waiting for whatever your after to walk out only to dose off for a unknown time.

  • @christianhulipas5692
    @christianhulipas5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Jon Solo❤️You’re doing great ❤️

  • @jokerzbabe13
    @jokerzbabe13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Irish (and possibly other celtic mythologies as well, Im just Irish)
    We have Oisin, who goes with a beautiful woman to a land where time doesn't pass, and when he asks to visit home, she tells him not to let his feet alight on the ground. He is such a kind neighbor that when he sees men struggling to move a boulder on the road, he leaps from the white steed given by his wife to help them. Shortly after his feet touch the ground, he ages into a frail old man. He had been gone for I think hundreds of years, and it felt like three days/weeks (depending on the version you hear).

    • @jokerzbabe13
      @jokerzbabe13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is vastly limited version of the tale, but I reccomend the narration on the tedtalk channel if you like good voicework and animations.

  • @socalcol1
    @socalcol1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Only thing I am a little disappointed by is that you didn't reference the Wishbone Rip Van Winkle. Other then that, yeah a guy who avoids everything by sleeping.

    • @ginabell694
      @ginabell694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's where I heard it! Thanks for reminding me.

    • @celticpoet21
      @celticpoet21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember that Episode. This story was also adapted for an episode of Faerie Tale Theater too! I'm surprised Jon doesn't mention either show!

  • @erinmeyers7635
    @erinmeyers7635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One fairy tale that always reminded me of Rip Van Winkle was the Japanese story of Urashima Taro.

  • @Dreamyblue101
    @Dreamyblue101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff man keep it up

  • @gelbadayah.sneach579
    @gelbadayah.sneach579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The weird thing is that Epimenides slept for 57 and was still tired? That sounds perfectly normal to me.

  • @ryand730
    @ryand730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That’s great that Jon found a book to read about Christianity but I would like to encourage him to read more books about the faith. CS Lewis’ The Abolition of Man or Mere Christianity are good books to read.

    • @NemoNebulous
      @NemoNebulous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      After the screen still at 15:07, I'm going to go out on a limb and say he doesn't care to read about Christianity.

  • @BaraBrith
    @BaraBrith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice to finally know the story, makes a lot more sense as to why my father used to call me Rip Van Winkle in my teenage years, honestly always thought he was referring to an obscure music artist or band he used to listen to, also when Jon was describing the return to town and the confusion it reminded me of a scene from a film I can't think of so now that's annoying me trying to think what it is...

  • @Lillian2167
    @Lillian2167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got in from work and this was a nice surprise in my sub box.

  • @josephramone5805
    @josephramone5805 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great work!!

  • @alexiswelsh5821
    @alexiswelsh5821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember reading this for a literature class and commenting on how could someone sleep for 20 years and have no one find his body? Then the next day while I was at the trolley stop waiting for the trolley to come, the shadows suddenly changed. When I checked the time, I saw to my horror that I had been there for almost 20 minutes and had one or two trolleys pass me by without me noticing at all. If I hadn't planned on getting to school early that day, I would've been late and possibly have missed a class.

  • @tayloredwards4968
    @tayloredwards4968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please do messed up origins of the wonderful wizard of Oz

    • @NemoNebulous
      @NemoNebulous 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't really have messed up origins, so probably not. As far as I can tell, the only "messed up" thing about it is Dorothy was named after Baum's deceased niece. Besides that, it's just a book(series of books actually) that were written. Nothing else to it, unless you know something I don't or just assumed it had a more extensive history.

  • @Blessedmess399
    @Blessedmess399 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The intro pumped me up man. Loved the content too, as always.

  • @sunshinerobinsonmacmillan2395
    @sunshinerobinsonmacmillan2395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are so relaxing and never disappoint

  • @Angelone1
    @Angelone1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I grew up reading and watching wishbone the dog tell the story. You did a great job Jon

  • @netzach7
    @netzach7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    crazy how he turned into john marston in 1899

  • @GingerBeard24
    @GingerBeard24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like always a really good video.🙂👍

  • @Sailor_Enchantix
    @Sailor_Enchantix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had obviously heard of Rip Van Winkle before, but I had never heard the full story. Thanks for enlightening me.

  • @clarimm6675
    @clarimm6675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I searched for something to watch before bedtime yay 😊 and I've never heard of this story before like so many other stories Jon covered which is always super interesting (especially since I'm from the country of weird ass tales - Germany haha)

  • @RadMad789
    @RadMad789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The story is meant to be an entertaining way to highlight the changes that happened to the American colonies as a result of the revolution. A lot had changed in a relatively short time of 20 years.

  • @fergusonfluffington777
    @fergusonfluffington777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work Jon !

  • @MalBeats
    @MalBeats 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    RIP Van Winkle: America's first hippie

  • @DavidAmrod
    @DavidAmrod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Un, Jon? You may want to reread the story. One of the big points in the story is what Happened when Rip was sleeping. Everyone was VERY pro-King George before he slept. After he woke up? Not so much... to the point where Rip was almost beat to death for the thought that EVERYONE had at the bar named After the King back before Rip fell asleep. Try reading it with that thought in mind. The sleep was not the story, merely a way to present the truer story. That is why it was such a great sell way back when.

  • @taekwongurl
    @taekwongurl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always thought that Van Winkle was just a funny name we gave to a character, turns out, it was a common Dutch name.

    • @lesterstone8595
      @lesterstone8595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Robert Van Winkle is the real name of the rapper known as Vanilla Ice, "Ice, ice baby."

    • @taekwongurl
      @taekwongurl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lesterstone8595 I've only ever known that guy as Vanilla Ice lolll and as being "that kind of guy" 👀

  • @hellifino6104
    @hellifino6104 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm new here and am impressed with the detail provided!!

  • @nitev4407
    @nitev4407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And this episode comes out as I notice that I overslept on my lunch break...
    The fates are mysterious indeed.

  • @thomasnuedling9167
    @thomasnuedling9167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Washington Irving was a wonderful writer. 😁

  • @meppep6733
    @meppep6733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, Jon! I find this version of the story kind of interesting since I didn't know it before. The version of Rip Van Winkle I grew up with came for a show called “Happily Ever After: Fairytales For Every Child”. In the episode (note that I'm going purely off of memory), we meet Rip’s wife first, who’s a hippie and singer. She meets Rip, who's a rock star, at one of his concerts. Once they're married his wife is left living the role of a mother and housewife. Rip isn't helping her with anything and just sleeping around. I forgot how but Rip does eventually fall under his sleep spell. When he wakes up he's in the modern-day, where he finds his wife, running for some kind of political office. It's interesting to compare the two versions in my head.

  • @Sunshine_88294
    @Sunshine_88294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your channel so much ❤️

  • @estherseiti749
    @estherseiti749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aaahhh. You're back!!!

  • @whtiequillBj
    @whtiequillBj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes. I was already familiar with the story of Rip. Though I thought he slept for a century with slightly more repercussions from not remembering anything.

  • @jaspr1999
    @jaspr1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The story is all over the place in one form or another. In a few science fiction stories, it's found in Star Trek, an episode of Babylon 5 (the nice twist is that it's an alien Kahn Noonian Singh), and so on. As I grew up reading the story, my take has always been that life will go on without you if you're not out living it and will forget you when you don't get out into the world and do something. Basically dying without the death part.

    • @GrimmShadowsII
      @GrimmShadowsII 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that's been my take as well, if you don't pay attention to whats going on around you the next thing you know everything is completely different. My favorite modern version would probably be the original ending to Army of Darkness where the Wiseman gives Ash a potion to drink so he can sleep to his own time but he get's distracted by the sound of falling rubble and takes an extra drop and sleeps too long.

  • @juliohernandez8892
    @juliohernandez8892 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved the story, and the way you tell it. I’m glad you are back on

  • @MaXiUmImPuLsE
    @MaXiUmImPuLsE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Charlie work" nice It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia reference 😎

  • @madelinerock6951
    @madelinerock6951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would you consider heading back to the Disney stuff and make one about Robin Hood? I used to have a crush on him :/

    • @anguirus6803
      @anguirus6803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The fox or the man ? I won't judge

    • @Z3nHolEminD
      @Z3nHolEminD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “ what would the Fox 🦊 say ? 🎼 “

    • @anguirus6803
      @anguirus6803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Z3nHolEminD Hooda Lolly Hooda Lolly

    • @madelinerock6951
      @madelinerock6951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anguirus6803 In my defense, Disney has a way of drawing those animals very sexy!! 😂😂 And he had a lovely voice too 😂😂

  • @Mirakelpung
    @Mirakelpung 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My man found a way to escape his nagging wife telling him to waste away working and his reaction to losing 20 years of his life is "hurray, retirement!". I love this story, if only I could be so lucky.

  • @metalhead5204
    @metalhead5204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gonna be honest, I've first heard of Rip Van Winkle from the anime Hellsing Ultimate so I'm pretty happy that this video is up so I can learn more about the guy.

  • @carlitaarn2958
    @carlitaarn2958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing about the “rusty gun”? That was my professor’s favorite part

  • @stevenfaber3896
    @stevenfaber3896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the emphasis of Rip's story isn't on Rip though, it seems to me to have a "nagging wife - don't be one" theme. If I remember correctly, isn't Rip overjoyed by hearing of her demise?

  • @fredmyass3001
    @fredmyass3001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    for a guy who looks into history through folklore and such , I do not know why you think colour and armour are supposed to be spelt without the u when it was because of the printing press your country didn't want to pay so they dropped the letter you to lower their cost you should look that up you take a cheap shot without knowing the truth behind the matter and I know you are better than that

  • @calico27
    @calico27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely like your summaries, as I will not be seeking to read these tales on my own time. This is the best way for me to gain awareness and knowledge of folk tales.. and your narration just makes it so much more enjoyable! So, thanks.

  • @FallingAwake16
    @FallingAwake16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Red Dead was my favorite video game. He was my fav character. This video just made my day more than you'll understand. 😅💛

  • @barbarahouk1983
    @barbarahouk1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I read the Rip Van Winkle in my childhood. I took from the story, he lost valuable time with community. He was married to an incompatible person. This was a tragic story to me. I knew from an early age (2 1/2 yo my oldest sister died) life was short. I also was precocious and had much to get done (I decided to be a doctor at 2 yo). This story meant a lot to me in my youth. I spent hours thinking about it.

  • @dustydurant2746
    @dustydurant2746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nobody confuse this guy with Rumpelstiltskin

  • @RandomGirl.RandamuOn-nanoko
    @RandomGirl.RandamuOn-nanoko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny that you publish this on the same day that my Dad slept in for an hour and a half and was running late for a legal obligation. VL

  • @BatmanBeyondBelief
    @BatmanBeyondBelief 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your sense of humor and way with words is half the reason i watch this show. You crack me up man.

  • @claudefrolltomstein8935
    @claudefrolltomstein8935 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I absolutely love Jon Solo and how in depth he goes into the history of folklore! However, he is often disrespectful to Christianity as a whole and it gets quite irksome to Christians listening. People should respect other's religious beliefs, even if they are not their own. I won't at all dismiss that there have been very nasty and destructive things done by people within the church, but that is not the religion itself. It is ok to acknowledge that.