Her not showering meant she had to go into a lot more detail at trial and made it much more difficult to get prosecutions. Maybe she's doing that oft mentioned human trait of reflection and learning by her mistakes? It happened to me once. My father, as a child, stroked a stray dog and got bit. So when I went to do the same thing he told me not to bother. Insane, I know.
I've never liked the character of Meg the Saint Meggerton,of Megsville! She's insufferable, whether being as holier as thou,or not so bothered about anything as in these latter episodes.She could have really helped Lori,for once, having been raped herself,but,no, barely a whimper from her.Her voice annoys me with it's well pronounced diction,and all the way through the series she's done nothing to cover up the fact that she's actually Bjorn from ABBA!🤬🤭🇬🇧❤️❤️❤️🐊🐊🐊
How in the world is a rape victim left alone and without police protection? And has the ability to take a shower?? I love this show, but I have to call them on this one. lbvs
Undoubtedly, we have copyright issues at play here. PCBH is the property of Fremantle International, and they have blocked numerous episodes on copyright grounds in certain territories. Some episodes were subject to other viewing restrictions, and were deleted under private conditions.
Craven is a right bastard!...The actor portrays his character well...A sensitive subject for any women, but this episode was intense!...I seriously had to remind myself that ' Craven ' is an actor and you know he does his job well, because i hate him with a passion!...lol...Dwyer's investigation as he questions Lori...So wrong on so many levels...Intense, but great acting done by all!
Meg- "What the hell's wrong with you"??? I don't understand why Meg was written this way this episode. She has always been so understanding to the women throughout the series. To tell Lorelei off for showering is dreadful and something I just can't see the character doing. Of all the people who should understand it's Meg. She even did exactly the same thing (showering) after she was raped and she said to the policewoman that she knew she shouldn't have before she was properly examined but she just couldn't bare not showering and longer.
Work it out . She knows how Lori feels and probably wants the men hung for it . Angry and frustrated that she washed away any chance of him/them being caught
@@katcox6127 Probably still not the kindest way to talk to a rape victim though. Especially from a character that has consistently been written as sympathetic. I completely understand your interpretation though.
While i am totally against Cravens brutal and unlawful methods, you've also got to look at the other side and can't help feel Reynolds is running Wentworth like a Day Care centre!!
They are paying for there crimes by losing there freedom, making life unpleasant for them certainly wont equip them for a normal life when they return to society
Andy JS Most likely because of the rape. And actually there is at least 2 other episodes missing from that certain playlist. But thankfully others uploaded those missing episodes.
@@KenyanBunnie Don't know your specific region Kenyan, but you're quite right. I think episode 5 was also another one which was filled in, and I'me suspecting it's to do with privacy issues and copyright grounds. The main playlist is the property of Fremantle International, who now seem to be gradually blocking the show in certain countries on grounds of copyright.
I'me suspecting it's to do with privacy issues and grounds of copyright. They're issues for which only Fremantle International know the answers, and I believe TH-cam has to act in accordance with any viewing restrictions that owners of copyright impose.
i love the way Ray Meagher plays Craven. If you pay attention at 9:03 there is this bit where Kath is like ''listen governor this is what i think you should do'' and she is being all serious about it. The way he just stands there casually listening with the cigarette in his hand. Its like he just doesn't care ,he finds it all amusing. Very funny.
I'm glad they didn't show Lorelei. Seeing Pixie and Meg especially go through it was bad enough. Surely she would have known it was 'Stud', since he's called stud for a reason.
I used to love going to the pet shop in the mall. I used to look at the puppies and the birds. I used to beg for a Canary but my mum always says " Birds are nasty." But I still would love one.
Joan once AGAIN proves what a complex character she is going from Darth Ferguson (Emperor Ernest Palpatine's minion) to full of remorse when visiting Lori in the infirmary. Really enjoying this batch of episodes, given the show a new breath of much needed fire. As for the police Doctor coming to do further tests on Lori, where the bloody hell are they coming from, Aberdeen? I could get from London to Melbourne quicker, lol. With Craven on the scene I am now reminded why I really loved it when Jock Stewart was around. I didn't think I would but I think I will pretty quickly start all over again, but will probably watch at a quicker rate second time around (been watching since 5th November 2022 and it is now the 2nd of January 2024).... Fair dinkum. So, Joan becomes acting Governor in eps 670, I wonder what will happen in 692? Well, I already know, but still excited nonetheless as though I had not seen the last episode before.
That Officer Adams is so dumb!! You can't get laid from a prisoner that NEEDS your help?? This whole puppy dog story arc has been funny and sad to watch!! rofl lmao
I think Merle is such a joy and lovely funny character, and hope that Rita sorts Craven out for killing Bongo. Seen it before but can't remember what happens until the end.
Ofcourse she fucking showered!! 🙄 I sound bad but this kinda annoyed me I know craven said horrible things to her but was like this to everyone!! Even Mrs Morris got abit angry with her. God merle plays a 4 year old well interrupting the adults and befriending other kids 😂
The minister is unprofessional and inept. Whatever happened to Departmental officials? I’m surprised John Cain didn’t sack him and replace him with Race Matthews. 🤓
Wait a second Ann, first you say you want Rodney kept away from the women ;and then Meg asks where is he and you say I sent him out with Maxwell and Jones. Last time I checked they are women. Only at Wentworth
After I finish this episode I'm looking up the actor playing Craven to see if he is still alive. My God! The man smoked about forty cigarettes a day it looked like.
Sheri Heffner Still alive lol. You know, in the Bea and Myra era, they’d all be chain smoking like crazy. Soooo gross! And then to learn that they did laundry for old people...🤦🏾♀️Like all those sheets must have just stank like cigarettes even after being laundered. I ordered groceries a few weeks ago. And the grocery bags smelled like cigarette smoke, the smell was so strong we had to throw out the bags. 🤢So the guy who got our order must have been a chain smoker.
@@KenyanBunnie Eeww! I work in a grocery store and you'd be surprised how many people come into the store that stink like an ashtray. They're so used to the smell on their bodies they can't even smell themselves. I couldn't imagine how their homes smell.
Ray Meagher who played evil and sadistic Ernest Craven. Ray appeared three times in Prisoner playing three very nasty characters. Originally as Jeff Butler in the early days of Prisoner who was a crazied ex-veitnam vet. Second as a mob/pimp Karl Rennar and finally as Craven. Ray is best known though as lovable Alf Stewart in Aussie soap Home and Away a character that he has played for years and still does into 2020. I believe in real life Ray Meagher is a really nice guy and likes meeting fans. A great legendary vertrain actor as far as i'm concerned.
Side note: Does this "no lagging" rule have a limit? The murder of your family, friends, and rape are not good enough reasons??? I love this show, but I have seen people in the USA tell (First 48) on themselves!! smdh sbt rofl lmao
If I was in charge, high enough to make it happen, Craven wouldn't even BE in Wentworth at ALL and why weren't those dregs of humanity like "Stud" put in isolation, or better still chained to a wall in the boiler room.
Kath's been more help to the screws than the women h every time she's been Top Dog. Merles friend has the same real surname as Craven's offsider who's real name is Bruce Kilpatrick.
does kind of look like him... don't think it is though, they wouldn't have gave him a speaking role and he would be the one standing in the back out of focus otherwise. Though yea, not even they could be that stupid
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Merle's line about Alice "Not being very bright" had me almost fall off my chair with laughter.
I thought that's was funny
Holy Cow, Me 2.
I had to backup six times. 😂
I love joan acting and getting up craven over governor position.
I think there’s a bit of Merle in all the characters, except Maxwell keeps her line.
Yeah and later on Lurch says the same about Merle behind her back.. lol Looks like they secretly admire each other!
Meg of all people should not be having a go at Lorelei for showering. She did exactly the same thing herself.
Thats what you call new writers not sticking to the soap history
Her not showering meant she had to go into a lot more detail at trial and made it much more difficult to get prosecutions.
Maybe she's doing that oft mentioned human trait of reflection and learning by her mistakes?
It happened to me once. My father, as a child, stroked a stray dog and got bit. So when I went to do the same thing he told me not to bother. Insane, I know.
LOL @Rodney's comment 'The Prisoners don't have to escape, they just wander off!' 😂😂😂
Why do they choose the nicest characters to suffer these attacks? Lori deserved better.
Joan says sorry to Lorelei but sorry can’t fix it the damage has already been done.
As if Lori would be questioned by the minister in front of Craven....
Very Very good point.
This episode is so strong! Fast-paced, moving, dramatic!
"ARE YOOUU DISOBEYING AN ORDEEERRRRRR?!!?"
inspector_melvin yes
Even the Freak is horrified by Craven’s actions.
IT'S THE FREAK'S FAULT. USING LORI FOR HER OWN SELFISH PURPOSES.
Only because it was Lori
Alf, what are you doing pretending to work in a prison
My god this prison would get sued for millions!
Craven is a sadistic man.
Meg is unbelievably cold hearted towards Lori, especially given she's a rape survivor herself. Really gone off her
I've never liked the character of Meg the Saint Meggerton,of Megsville! She's insufferable, whether being as holier as thou,or not so bothered about anything as in these latter episodes.She could have really helped Lori,for once, having been raped herself,but,no, barely a whimper from her.Her voice annoys me with it's well pronounced diction,and all the way through the series she's done nothing to cover up the fact that she's actually Bjorn from ABBA!🤬🤭🇬🇧❤️❤️❤️🐊🐊🐊
lol, just love it when mrs Pringle rushes into the office and puts the knife in Reynolds back. :D
Kath and Rodders are like an old married couple arguing about a child in the car. lol
"now get out of my chair" 😂
Craven should _not_ have been in there when they were interviewing Lori! Appalling.
Anne's an idiot
Rita's gonna really 'fork' him up ;-).
In jail everything is a weapon even a ballpoint pen.
I love Ann. She’s so lovely.
It hurts my heart that gerda passed away so young . 😢
I love Merle on her shopping outings!! 😊
Loved the scene with Ferguson & Craven - as she ordered him to get out of her seat - haha
How in the world is a rape victim left alone and without police protection? And has the ability to take a shower?? I love this show, but I have to call them on this one. lbvs
I love that touching moment with Lawrie and Rita
Thank you for posting this episode. I wonder why PCBH's youtube page does not have this episode posted? THANK YOU~~
Undoubtedly, we have copyright issues at play here. PCBH is the property of Fremantle International, and they have blocked numerous episodes on copyright grounds in certain territories. Some episodes were subject to other viewing restrictions, and were deleted under private conditions.
Why didn't Rita pick up a knife instead of a fork when she threatened Craven🤷
The knives in the dining room would probably be well blunt. A fork could be a good stabbing tool
Craven is a right bastard!...The actor portrays his character well...A sensitive subject for any women, but this episode was intense!...I seriously had to remind myself that ' Craven ' is an actor and you know he does his job well, because i hate him with a passion!...lol...Dwyer's investigation as he questions Lori...So wrong on so many levels...Intense, but great acting done by all!
Craven always wearing his sunglasses I'm surprised he doesn't run into stuff
Its a good thing he wasn't in the early episodes when the lighting was very dim.... With those shades, he'd be just as blind as Belinda Johns!! 😊
Meg- "What the hell's wrong with you"???
I don't understand why Meg was written this way this episode. She has always been so understanding to the women throughout the series. To tell Lorelei off for showering is dreadful and something I just can't see the character doing.
Of all the people who should understand it's Meg. She even did exactly the same thing (showering) after she was raped and she said to the policewoman that she knew she shouldn't have before she was properly examined but she just couldn't bare not showering and longer.
Work it out . She knows how Lori feels and probably wants the men hung for it . Angry and frustrated that she washed away any chance of him/them being caught
@@katcox6127 Probably still not the kindest way to talk to a rape victim though. Especially from a character that has consistently been written as sympathetic.
I completely understand your interpretation though.
While i am totally against Cravens brutal and unlawful methods, you've also got to look at the other side and can't help feel Reynolds is running Wentworth like a Day Care centre!!
They already have their freedom taken. No need to dehumanize them
They are paying for there crimes by losing there freedom, making life unpleasant for them certainly wont equip them for a normal life when they return to society
The Freak in the new Wentworth is more like Craven.
Those men make me want to THROW UP!😢
This is the only episode missing from the main playlist on TH-cam. I wonder why?
Andy JS Most likely because of the rape. And actually there is at least 2 other episodes missing from that certain playlist. But thankfully others uploaded those missing episodes.
@@KenyanBunnie Don't know your specific region Kenyan, but you're quite right. I think episode 5 was also another one which was filled in, and I'me suspecting it's to do with privacy issues and copyright grounds. The main playlist is the property of Fremantle International, who now seem to be gradually blocking the show in certain countries on grounds of copyright.
I'me suspecting it's to do with privacy issues and grounds of copyright. They're issues for which only Fremantle International know the answers, and I believe TH-cam has to act in accordance with any viewing restrictions that owners of copyright impose.
I was wondering the same thing.
I had to do search on TH-cam to find episode!! Is it because of subject matter??
Merle has another weapon in her armoury: A BIFF! Quite unlike the DONG and BOP, it's more like a BAM, but with more follow through! LMAO 🤣🤣
BIFF!🤣🤣🤣🤣
I always loved this show.
Does Anne ever feel responsible because of her beyond stupid decisions
Seemingly not.
That fool Reynolds didn’t learn from the first time when she let a known rapist Frank Burke roam around the prison.
She’s always going on about caring for the women but she’s never on their side, especially if Ferguson needs defending
She shouldn't of let the men and women mix from the start. Then Lori would not of been raped
To me, merl has been my best actress in this show
Either her or Kate Peterson
Shout outs to both Kath Maxwell and Sonia Stevens personally. In fact any of the cast were better than the shouty woman Lexi.
I thought Lou Kelly was the best. One of the nicest looking too
Brumby is a great actress
Kate hood did really well
This dude running around inside with these sunglasses on is cringe as hell!
I wonder what the cigarette budget was for this show.
Millions!
Fags were cheap back then.
@@joylapine9004 That’s true.
Val Lehman didn’t like the brands the producers had on set so arranged a deal with Dunhill cigarettes for her and fellow chain smoker Sheila Florance
Likely advertisements
love this episode with Merle and that little boy . craven you bastard !!
i love the way Ray Meagher plays Craven. If you pay attention at 9:03 there is this bit where Kath is like ''listen governor this is what i think you should do'' and she is being all serious about it. The way he just stands there casually listening with the cigarette in his hand. Its like he just doesn't care ,he finds it all amusing. Very funny.
The young lad played a character called Bradley Townsend in the early days of Neighbours. Involved in storylines with Des and Lucy
He was also in The Henderson Kids.
I think Craven wears those sunglasses to stop people from poking him in the eyes
Nyuck nyuck nyuck
37:43 This scene really cracked me up... I so can't stand Rodney Adams lol
And craven worms his way in the hospital. This is getting unbearable.
Paul Duncan is a fantastic actress
I'm glad they didn't show Lorelei. Seeing Pixie and Meg especially go through it was bad enough.
Surely she would have known it was 'Stud', since he's called stud for a reason.
I used to love going to the pet shop in the mall. I used to look at the puppies and the birds. I used to beg for a Canary but my mum always says " Birds are nasty." But I still would love one.
Joan once AGAIN proves what a complex character she is going from Darth Ferguson (Emperor Ernest Palpatine's minion) to full of remorse when visiting Lori in the infirmary. Really enjoying this batch of episodes, given the show a new breath of much needed fire. As for the police Doctor coming to do further tests on Lori, where the bloody hell are they coming from, Aberdeen? I could get from London to Melbourne quicker, lol. With Craven on the scene I am now reminded why I really loved it when Jock Stewart was around. I didn't think I would but I think I will pretty quickly start all over again, but will probably watch at a quicker rate second time around (been watching since 5th November 2022 and it is now the 2nd of January 2024).... Fair dinkum. So, Joan becomes acting Governor in eps 670, I wonder what will happen in 692? Well, I already know, but still excited nonetheless as though I had not seen the last episode before.
Alf Stewart was a real bastard before he moved to Summer Bay.
I really dislike rape storylines but I suppose it does happen.
Rape happens and storylines are needed to discuss it.
Kath claims to be a "survivor" but she won't even put her seatbelt on in the car
The 80s
One of the best episodes of Prisoner.
Oh looook, it's a zoo! No Merle, it's a pet shop (FFS 🙄)... LOL 🤣
FFS🙄🤦🏻♀️🤣
That little boy is the image of Merl 😂
Merle has been a pleasure to watch n I'm loving Cath maxwell so much more than the 1st time round. The freak is just a pure joy
What's happened to the freaks black gloves
missv70dont4get They don’t match the new uniforms! 🧤
They do make another appearance when the Freak has to bring a prisoner "back into line" 😊
Naw Merle is such a nice lady
Lil captain marvellous 😂❤❤❤ merle bless your sweet heart
That Officer Adams is so dumb!! You can't get laid from a prisoner that NEEDS your help?? This whole puppy dog story arc has been funny and sad to watch!! rofl lmao
And when you thought Craven couldn't get any worse you see him paying Lori a visit... I can't decide yet if he's worse than Ruth Ballinger.
I think Merle is such a joy and lovely funny character, and hope that Rita sorts Craven out for killing Bongo.
Seen it before but can't remember what happens until the end.
@22:00 Lorelai Should have Screamed her head out , For Craven being in the Infirmary, That would Have got into Hot water for Surely.
Ofcourse she fucking showered!! 🙄 I sound bad but this kinda annoyed me I know craven said horrible things to her but was like this to everyone!! Even Mrs Morris got abit angry with her. God merle plays a 4 year old well interrupting the adults and befriending other kids 😂
The minister is unprofessional and inept. Whatever happened to Departmental officials? I’m surprised John Cain didn’t sack him and replace him with Race Matthews. 🤓
So the Pixie Mason copy has also had the exact same ending. How original.
Which episode has the song playing, ‘When Johnny comes marching home’ ?
Wait a second Ann, first you say you want Rodney kept away from the women ;and then Meg asks where is he and you say I sent him out with Maxwell and Jones. Last time I checked they are women. Only at Wentworth
As if the women are allowed to do the shopping with one screw crazy 🛒🤔😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Trust Joyce to say the wrong thing at the wrong moment! 🙂 28:10
I have to say, the barnhurst era was painful, with daphne and useless nora.. but marsh, shes soooooo wooden
ZoeJames81 who the heck is Marsh???
@@KenyanBunnie spike marsh the ginger haired con from blackmoor
Why does Lorilee not have at any stage a laywer with her and police protection 🤔
Didn't like the way Craven described Merle.
He was wayy too comfortable with putting his hand on females
I never watched it this far originally so I've no idea what happens to Craven... I am kind of hoping the Freak gets the better of him somehow.
After I finish this episode I'm looking up the actor playing Craven to see if he is still alive. My God! The man smoked about forty cigarettes a day it looked like.
Sheri Heffner Still alive lol. You know, in the Bea and Myra era, they’d all be chain smoking like crazy. Soooo gross!
And then to learn that they did laundry for old people...🤦🏾♀️Like all those sheets must have just stank like cigarettes even after being laundered.
I ordered groceries a few weeks ago. And the grocery bags smelled like cigarette smoke, the smell was so strong we had to throw out the bags. 🤢So the guy who got our order must have been a chain smoker.
Also lol this craven guy, he has always played the asshole in each role he’s had on this show!
@@KenyanBunnie Oh I know.
@@KenyanBunnie Eeww! I work in a grocery store and you'd be surprised how many people come into the store that stink like an ashtray. They're so used to the smell on their bodies they can't even smell themselves. I couldn't imagine how their homes smell.
Ray Meagher who played evil and sadistic Ernest Craven. Ray appeared three times in Prisoner playing three very nasty characters. Originally as Jeff Butler in the early days of Prisoner who was a crazied ex-veitnam vet. Second as a mob/pimp Karl Rennar and finally as Craven. Ray is best known though as lovable Alf Stewart in Aussie soap Home and Away a character that he has played for years and still does into 2020. I believe in real life Ray Meagher is a really nice guy and likes meeting fans. A great legendary vertrain actor as far as i'm concerned.
At 6:06 what is wrong with Craven’s ear and neck? Looks like fish scales. Where is Vera when, for once, I need to hear and agree, THEY’RE ANIMALS!
He must be from Innsmouth!
Some really good acting and story lines.
Joan must have walked by craven to get in so why ask where is craven
Yes, good point!
every time i see Craven he has a cigarette in his hand.
Oh this scripting. 32:10 - the deputy governor would step up, not Craven.
Paulie Jay not when there’s an established governor in
You don't understand how public service jobs work.
Is that Alf from Home and Away
Yes
Yeah
Side note: Does this "no lagging" rule have a limit? The murder of your family, friends, and rape are not good enough reasons??? I love this show, but I have seen people in the USA tell (First 48) on themselves!! smdh sbt rofl lmao
The Freak got played by Craven. 😂
That boy looks like he could be Merle's son!
That s was funny what Merl said about alice
Ooh, we haven't seen these loos before! Clearly not a set!! Haha
Woud love to have seen Bea take on Craven
Pamela Hanlon YES!! She would give him a run for his money!!
She'd have to re charge her sordoring iron first ;)
Damn right. I wish bea stayed long enough to go to Blackmore! I would of loved her to come back to wentworth. Hate Rodney though.
Bea couldn't fight for shit and she was dumb , craven way to smart for her.
YESSSSS!!!
Merle is coming over as a very dumbed down version of Doreen.
Jeff Bulter! This man cannot be stopped! Lol'
40:15 classic Freak 😂😂😂
slack protection for lori before she had craven enter the hospital with no sister or guard watching over lori.
And why didn't the forensic nurse come almost immediately after they reported it?
If I was in charge, high enough to make it happen, Craven wouldn't even BE in Wentworth at ALL and why weren't those dregs of humanity like "Stud" put in isolation, or better still chained to a wall in the boiler room.
Just 22 episodes to go
That Craven should have played villains more.
Andy murday He's played enough already lol
Andy murday every character his a villain
Andy murday He has. He’s been a few pos in the series earlier!
He played 3 different villains on the show.
@@ajs41 Geoff Butler a frend then enemy of Fletch's then Kurt Renner a frend of Sonia Stevens
This episode has me infuriated.
Kath's been more help to the screws than the women h every time she's been Top Dog. Merles friend has the same real surname as Craven's offsider who's real name is Bruce Kilpatrick.
0:52 - 0:54 😂
I don’t like these episodes. I know it isn’t real but Craven is evil. Perhaps I shouldn’t watch these at midnight 🥺🥺🥺
She did say Bogo instead of Bongo.
It’s getting too silly
5:36 is that bongo back as a male prison guard ?
does kind of look like him... don't think it is though, they wouldn't have gave him a speaking role and he would be the one standing in the back out of focus otherwise. Though yea, not even they could be that stupid
lol I thought she said Bogo instead of Bongo...
Why is Craven akaso always wearing a sunglasses
Because he’s a bellend.