Noob VS Pro VS Modder - Building a Commercial District in Cities: Skylines
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- In this Cities:Skylines [Campus DLC] video you can see a noob, pro and hacker building a commercial district. The noob has no mods and isn't that good in building things in C:S. The pro is better and the hacker has a modded game with move it, road anarchy and Traffic Manager: President Edition.
Mods you can find here (imperatur's Modlist):
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Lvly - Dance (instrumental)
Tomas Skyldeberg - Day an Night (instrumental)
Blake Everett - Never walk alone (Tomas Skyldeberg Remix)
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Every noob: grid
Every pro: grid but a roundabout or something
Every modder: non-functioning city with only eye candy props
LMAO
Ajahahahahah indeed
Ay at least it still looks good
accurate af, whilst I do like an eye candy city, it does defeat the purpose of the game imho,which is to build,maintain and expand a city.......plastic props don't mean a thing as far as I'm concern, all they do is add " *immersion* " with very little to no purpose.
Most of the ‘Modder’ sections on these kind of videos is a misconception, you can make a functioning city with lots of detail, see: Strictoaster. This video should just be ‘lazy modder’.
1st one: Developing Cities
2nd one: Developed Cities
3rd one: American Cities
I would rather live in the third one. That way at least I know that I'm going to find a parking space.
@@monopalisa619 Oh yeah? I would rather live in the second one, that way I won't even need to look for a parking space since public transport is so sufficient that I dont even need to use a car just to get to places 😂
3rd one is also most European cities
@@DannyTraceur uh what?
@@DannyTraceur Europe is on the east side of the atlantic ocean not the west. Just as a reminder
The modder type is an American strip mall. A lot of Asian malls really look like the noob mall but with better looking buildings.
If the noob mall was done in Sim City 5 I think it would look better.
Footnote: It’s just that Sim-City looks better, not that it’s a better game.
@@dorkaholic_ I think Cities XXL is even better looking than sim city 5. Not that it's a better game though.
I dont think that is strip mall..basically strip mall is a mall that have row of multiple shops ( but within the same building) that can access from outside
Agree, Ginza is the noob style commercial district just with cooler buildings
Really not. At all. Please go to America before judging it, like the class stereotype “everyone in in America is fat” but when the go to American like 1/20 people they see are fat
Modder: Non walkable and Depressing looking district
The whole idea of a specialized district is inherently non-walkable. Check Jeff Speck on TH-cam and his theory of walkability + his other work.
@@SWEmanque We need to stop building unwalkable cities
I really love watching these--but for the "pro" versions. The "modder" versions always seems so lifeless. [I should add a caveat that I'm not fond of "ploppable" buildings used everywhere (some are fine, obviously in-game monuments are "ploppables"), but I do like road movement mods like anarchy.]
Bethgael the modders like to build realisticly and that is a statement on the current state of our cities
Garrett do you mean, buildings got demolished to make place for retailers?
Go for Noob/Pro/modder Metro rail/Train system
The modder one looks like those boring generic American cities 😂
boring generic is russian cities :)
@@freddyleconte6003 True! Like Soviet apartment buildings lol
I'm more bothered by the fact that he put a Walmart next to a Target. That would NEVER happen.
@@freddyleconte6003 totally not. Those parkings exist only in American cities
Lol
I always notice that the simple addition of trees in these videos make the city or district look so much better! I think I'll start using some more trees, thanks! :)
Yeah trees are so helpful for beautifying your city!
Wow, I don't even fall in the noob category yet.
Nobody does
yeah, we dont build districts
we plop random zones down and call it a day
The third one is so American it hurts my eyes...
The only difference is it would be a stoplight if it was American
I’m confident you have never seen a American city irl
@@jaroj1112 but that's what umrica is - guns, cars, highway through cities.
Some advice: when doing something only once, like the policies, slow down the video. Those where only up for like a second and hard to see.
Okay yeah thanks for your feedback:)
Put Playback speed for 0.5 and enjoy))
@@zairtairov7251 NO! I keep it at 2x and try to pause it, if I miss arrow left and try it again (i normally get it after 287 tries ;)
First one: hell
Second one: id really like to shop there, even if its way too big. Good design.
Third one: HELL REALM HELL REALM HELL REALM HELL REALM
When the noob is better than you
Edit-Thanks For The Likes!😁
GachaTwins 101 That’s the whole idea of the noob section to Imperatur, to make all of us feel bad because we’re not even close to that level ;-;
When the noob is yourself :)
@@datchisan25 It's e-p33n stroking. I have a few mods, the ones in the video description included. But I am still building my rectangular cities, as it's more space efficient, so I'm using said mods to regulate traffic flows more than anything, getting rid of sudden bends or angles or grades in roads that have higher maximum speeds. Don't care as much for form, function is more important anyway.
True xD
Hello_Im_Dutch I think your right
Very realistic, especially all the empty parking lots!
WHaT aBoUt BlAcK fRiDay
NOOB: ""Do sidewalks actually function in this game? I don't think they do, I'm gonna run walkways parallel to my sidewalks... also I hurd grid iz best..."
PRO: "Sidewalks function, just need to be connected to walkways here and there. Also symmetry is number one priority and my traffic control skills are unmatched..."
Modder: "These 5 modded buildings meet the same commercial demand as your 10 blocks worth of zoned commercial, like in RL, I just need ALL the parking, like in RL. Also why would I make a footpath network when people can just use sidewalk like in RL? My town is SUCH the RL! I WIN!"
LOL
Mixing activities in districts is the best way to do it. It can save your city from commuting. And usually customers is not the issue, they can use public transportation, the real issue here is supply trucks. If you are mixing commercial buildings with residential probably a good idea is to build some cargo train terminals across the city to provide goods supply without long distance rides.
The Modder looked like it is about Parking District lol xD
Don't forget to incorporate cargo train stations. This will help you supply freight directly to the district and not thru your highways and lower density roads.
I'm a modder for sure but watch these to get ideas and inspiration.
Recommendations:
1. Mixed use. Add commercial to your main streets, and use "Smilies" (and others) mixed use buildings. You can add "commercial blocks" to the bottom floors with "Move It" to make them functional.
2. don't use vanilla trees/bushes (with few exceptions). Lots of great realistic trees, bushes and plants in the workshop. "Pdelmo" is the GOAT of plants.
3. "KingLeno" is the GOAT of commercial assets.
When your watching a Cities: Skylines video and try to edge scroll.
Thank you very much, my comercial zones are garbage this will help a lot
You‘re welcome:)
Noob: Not enough parks/plazas
Pro: Parks/Plazas
Modder: Parking Plazas
The modder... "OMG THIS PLACE NEEDS MORE PARKING LOTS!!!"
Nobody is like that thoigh
Starting a new city noob/pro/modder
Noob(real one, that one that builds nonsense)/medium/pro/heavymodder for more accuracy :D
perfect :D
How about the guy that always start with a roundabout?
The Pro and Modder ones aren't mutually exclusive. Pro would work well in a downtown area, while Modder would be better in a suburban setting as a shopping center. There's no reason you can't have both ;)
The "Big Parking Lots" mod/asset makes adding these huge parking lots so much simpler now.
Modder?
I'd re-label that to "American Parking Lot Hellscape" LMFAO
I think a noob/pro/modded beach hotel area would be cool next.
You know what, I like the idea of leaving a space in the middle of each 'square' to put a tiny road in. I use some mods and there are pedestrian roads that I will be putting in there (or just walkways for vanilla runs) to encourage foot traffic.
Every person walking / cycling is a car off the road!
Noob VS Pro VS Modder building low density district
Mixed zoning or what do you mean?
imperatur i mean like how the streets look with the houses and stuff , you know what i mean?
imperatur could you do a train station noob/pro/modder? I would like to see how to make my regular station into something special.
@@imperatur i thinl he meant a suburb or a small neighbourghood. so corner store a small playground some low buildings. roundabouts. atleast from my dutch perspective
Noob: East Asian shopping district
Pro: American mall (90% parking space)
Train system, Train station.
what I see
noob=semi pro
pro=-SUPER PRO
Modder=MASTER MODDER
gamerdylan198 and gamerdylan198zombie usually modders are noobs that want to make ther builds look cool
No, they want their builds to look like real cities. Or they suck at the game and you're right. Could be either.
what about noob vs pro vs god
what about noob vs pro vs god
Sears and Macy's both went out of business. If you remake this video one year from now it's just gonna be an amazon warehouse with a hospital next to it to tend to all the workers who collapsed on the job, and who burst their kidneys because they didn't get a pee break.
People are complaining about the walkability of the modder build. Bruh, those parking lots would take like 45 seconds to cross, then you've got a roof over your head and air conditioning. I'd much rather walk an hour inside a Walmart vs an hour visiting 20 little shoppes in the rain.
I'm a mixture of pro and modder.
Functional city part with custom streets and some parking spaces, not roads, but as parks, and a few custom malls, just to add variety.
THIS SERIES ARE GREEATT! Keep the great work. GUTEN TAG FROM IRAN!
Thanks:)
Yea
The "noob" part looks more like low-medium. I'm medium level player for that kind of thing :)
I actually think the noob's design will have the best Traffic too. More alternative routes, not too many intersections in main road.
Pro: less alternative routes but more intersections in the roundabout thingy with bus stops in it.
The low land value criticism doesn't make any sense. Retailers are renters. They like low land values because they like the low rent... more profit for them, less for the landlord.
Next noob vs pro building a busterminal (in German ZOB= zentraler Omnibusbahnhof)
pro is imho the best. modder version really looks like the american, automobile-centric planning
When there's lots of space and land is cheap, low-density housing is most affordable. Low density means transit is slower and more expensive per passenger-mile than cars. Canada and Australia are car-centric in the same way for the same reasons.
@@JETZcorp oh is that what they tell you?
@@MJ-op5kc Who's "they"? If anything, those who run my city (Portland, OR) are trying to convince everyone of the opposite. As if we won't notice that the most affordable housing is out in the suburbs.
Noob vs pro vs modder soviet city
It looks very realistic, but I play C:S so I can imagine what it would be like to not live in a place like that. Perhaps I'm wrong, I should be reproducing the horrible conditions of my American city in this simulation
I would’ve done one big box store per block, with fast food, banks, or services in their parking lots
If I would be using the anarchy tool, I would just merge some of the placeable buildings together to simulate a mall.
New challenge: What about Eropean vs American vs Asian builders? 🏠 🏢 🏣
To be honest, the Modder city is a nightmare. Who wants to go shopping in a parking lot desert? And does it make one a Pro just because the district is hardly symmetrical and boring? Every quadrant of the district looks the same. Complete city planning fail. To keep the Noob district alive and prosperous is the real deal. And it's much closer to a real city.
ONE WAY ROAD THROUGH THE WHOLE CITY IS JUST MA CRUSH
Noob, Pro, Modder: Train & Park area (google "Winter Park Sunrail Station")
0:28 this is torture 😂
I prefer my commercial building to be mixed with residential. I dislike those commercial districts because IRL they destroy city centers.
tbh i don't like the modder, it seemed so lifeless and just ugly. the pro was the best imo
A Themepark...
Noob being a unlogic setup and not well planned layout. pro being a well managed layout and good vanilla decoration. Modder. a Actual Themepark (Decoration &layout wise)
Parking is ridiculous. Half the world is parking lots at this point.
Its like that at this big shops
i agree with the pro tip where you do place services on main roads
I would Suggest BIG Parkinglots for Bigger Parkinglots, The Parkinglot Roads have more use as smaller Pakinglots between buildings
Make a noob vs pro about football stadiums or sports complex!!
Ngl the modded one looks fucking beautiful
Do i have to download these separately with RICO or are the buildings in it?
Seperately
@@imperatur thanks
Subscribed.
Got to ask since I didn't quite get it: Why the low land value on the last one? What caused it?
Because the buildings have so much distance between them and no near buildings/parks that increase the landvalue
@@imperatur I might tweak them a bit in my own version... Replace some of the parking space for a service or two, parks, maybe some small, zoned commercials.
It's a modder grade, so I might as well use a few of the smaller park assets.
Thank you for the idea, tho. Maybe I can get you to see it for yourself. Perhaps you can suggest me some re-layouts, like you just did in your previous video?
Build a park, using Parklife DLC
The modder version is a shopping/retail area (only in a video game can Walmart and Target share a parking lot and is right next to each other AND Target is 2x as big as the Walmart store). I like the pro version the best of the three but i would build a little different. Call me old fashion, but I'm more of a fan of skyscrapers, elaborate parks, water features, tourism interests, and real public transportation.
Wait... THE NOOB USES PATHS AND 2 TYPES OF ROADS?? i dont do that...
Pro builds with modded bus-only road?
I think Imperatur forgot Network Extensions 2 was a mod
Pro looks good :-) and easy to build for everyone
Defenetly Modder
Thank you for stating the mods used when you used them
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Sind die Rico Gebäude eigentlich sowas wie einzigartige Gebäude oder sind da auch wirklich Geschäfte drin? Gutes Video
Noob vs. Pro vs. Modder Public transport system 😉
love this series...thanks for some great city building ideas!
Public transport hub(all main transport types in one area)
Me:
No mod's required! :D
DLC's required! :O
Residential area, neighborhood. Let us see variations in zone density, distribution of parks and services, local transit hub...
I am not real pro, but I think pro will try to divide residential and commercial areas with offices not to make to much noise.
A Mass transit hub would be cool or a stadium area
PARKING LOTS!!! YES!!!! Gotta find that mod!!! Along with Move it!
Do a lets play of a pro player builder with legit maps no mods. Also add in how to get rid of road noise between commercial and resident.
''I will do my best ....in order manage to do the noob style.....lol''
How do you move a part of road at 9.34??
3:06 there is bus-only roads in vanila CSL, without Network Extension 2?
I think it comes with mass transit
GOOD VIDEO BEST CITIES SKYLINES TH-camR!
0:45 roads this 🛠️ waht is that Mod pls i needed help
I don‘t use gameplay mods at the noob version
@@imperatur ?ok
@@imperatur please stop trying to build American cities when you obv HAVENT been to America before
Great vids Imperatur!
Pro : A normal city
Modder : Suburb in the USA
''I think pro is and looks best way of all with mods map looks like a big airport yard or something ...with all these park areas ...''
Fine road tool2 and fine road anarchy
Because everyone is dying to get in, a cemetery.
I'm noober than the noob, of course,i just grid it all and put services in the avenues!
Your roundabout needs at least one more lane.
The Modder looks too American, I like noob most.
didnt you use network extensions for the one way bus road?
I think I'm a mixture of a modder and a Pro.
I'm noob and pro. In between actually.
@@nordicpawsproductions465 same
Try make historical residential district noob vs pro vs modder
I have the materials of a modder, but the skills of a noob...
next episode: public transport
I too find some fun building American retail parks although I disagree on the car-centric nature of it
when placing my parking lot roads down or any road down for that matter, close together as shown in the modder build the ground clips a lot and flickers non stop. How do you place these down without it doing any of that?
Difference between Pro and Modder for me similar with difference between European type and American
In every type you are doing the same noob mistake: you have intersections too close to each other. This will cause serious traffic problems once this city grows bigger.
Yes too many intersections on the main road. it's better to have neighbourhoods with lots of intersections and clear main roada
Noob vs pro vs modder managing traffic
WRONG,noob doesnt even bother making a CV ommertial district,he just fills random squares with commeetial type
Noob v pro v modder military base