I don't know if anyone noticed, but the moment that decisively lost town the game was pretty funny: At the start of voting zucc tried to signal that he was being blackmailed by quickly accusing and canceling Silentstan a couple of times in the row. The (pretty dense) mayor thought that this was an honest accusation and joined in, killing Silentstan and therefore thrwoing the game.
I’m rewatching the gameplays: Actually they lost when vigilante shot jailor, which was the most stupid shot I’ve ever seen before. they should have shot mayor ;)
@@huh4801 I would've pinned him as jester, but jester died pretty early so I'd figure him for just being a super annoying town. He did the opposite of what skimm does: When skimm is maf, he acts like a smart town member (but conveniently just dumb enough to let some random lynches slide), whereas talal acted like a typical "you all suck" townie. He talks without really adding anything, which makes people ignore him and allow him to fly under the radar. For an example of how a typical mafia member acts, the GF in this game was much quieter and more suspicious.
“Your claim doesn’t always need to be the obvious one” THIS. Like seriously, the amount of times I’ve won as Blackmailer after claiming something like sheriff surprises me.
Talal A mentioned the worst RM role is Disguiser. I think it would be interesting if the Disguiser disguises as town, and is shot by vigi, the vigi should still die from guilt afterwards, thinking they killed town.
Check 'Best Will' game. Someone shot the Disguiser who disguised as an Invest. They didn't die from guilt but it scared the daylights out of the Vigi who thought they shot town with a convincing will.
that sounds chaotic as fuck. Do you know how many people would be talking over each other trying to get their point across with such limited time? No way that would work. lol evils would need their own chat too in that case. That's too much.
True but it doesn't make 15 people in a voice chat ideal for a proper gameplay. Just, too many people and too many things to keep up with ontop of what's already presented in the game itself. So many chaotic possibilities. lol
Well, werewolves pretend to be executioners by pretending to be sheriff and calling some random guy out as mafia. If he is town and gets lynched, say you're executioner and swear your allegiance to town.
I normally hate gaming videos bc most people who do it have an annoying voice, but you actually sound nice and make your videos interesting. Glad I subscribed!!
Ok, I know this is random, but I wanna see fanart of all the stupid things a trans/witch can do to people (like a mafioso attacking himself- or other maf, lookout watching themselves and seeing the witch visit them. Escort roleblocking themselves, ect.) Just the concepts alone are just... freaking beautiful.
half the time that's really obvious if it's known there's a bmer, and a spy will can be tricky to fake. So while he didn't bm this game, and probably could have claimed spy... I liked the med claim. The odds of an invest picking you up early game is enough to make it not really matter imo. The fake will for maf early game is essentially just a jailor-ward. If an inv outs themselves as the game progresses, then yeah you might want to switch. I'm sure skimm would have switched were that the case.
Hey Skimm, I'm still learning some stuff about Salem, I wanted your opinion on what Talal said. Do you agree that you shouldn't claim a role as maf until someone asks you?
im not skimm but you want to have a claim ready and a reasonable explanation for why you didnt claim until a certain point in the game, if you do decide to wait with cc'ing
Not always but usually. If you claim early there's a risk of your claim dying leaving you with either rt or no space at all. But on the other hand if you claim early and sound believable when they try to kill you you can go like "Dude I am confirmed _______ I claimed day _______ and got the ____________" or something like that. Also if you are claiming something your role doesn't show when investigated (for example medium as mafioso which shows up as vig/vet/maf) then you might wanna claim early so that the investigators and sheriffs have no reason to investigate you.
Hammurabi the ForgotMeme only trouble with that is that, if they investigate you anyways, you get lynched immediately, or blackmailed into helping town/whoever found you until you get lynched later. Risky move. So yeah, mafia can be pretty difficult.
I once got tired of mafia roles one night as I got it 8 times in a row. I ended up with the blackmailer role and decided to just pick 1 person at random and blackmail them every night. by the end of the 8th night, I spoke up and said this person has not said a single thing all night. We hung him and it was the Sk. He was really salty for being blackmailed 8 nights in a row I won;t say what all he said lol. The mafia somehow came out with no deaths in the end and winning the game.
I think he's pointing out that 1330+7 = 1337 = LEET = elite Maybe a typo and accidentally wrote "Skimm" twice in his equation, probably meant Skimm = l337 confirmed or something? idk
I know you also record for entertainment, but the entire thing with the Vigi could have been avoided if you finished organizing your will at night (and a lot of other possible misplays in previous videos). It's very important to see who was killed by what in the morning and what their will says...especially in Ranked where people will go agro at the slightest misplay. Also, Talal played really well; just wanna give props to that person if they ever see this comment.
The King Ranked Practice is 4 Mafia( GF, Mafioso, Random Mafia, Random Mafia) 9 town( Jailor, TI,TI, TK,TP,TS,RT,RT,RT. ) and 2 Neutrals ( NE,NK). Totally different
The first time I played black mailer I over heard vital things on my first day the retri talking to the jailer, so I knew who to hit. And I knew their plans to bring back a doctor, retri and jailer died. But idiotically I proceeded (the next day) to accidentally paste my notes in the chat, I was shocked when nobody noticed till the next day. My fake role was Bg (my go to) when people said I should’ve been LO, (honestly idk about playing LO because it’s easily disproved, unless you use your fellow mafia members, but then you reveal them so idk.)
One thing I can’t stand in ToS is the constant abstains, the amount of times I was town and ppl abstained for no reason is ridiculous. Could’ve saved me.
One of Talals mistake was his exclimation on the vig shooting the jailor; she would've died anyways because that night she was attacked by mafia I guess its because it was a waste of a townie.... Otherwise fantastic game by mafia, also got lucky with all the vig claims.
^dont do this^, people will likely see through this, only do this when there is an invest in game that might invest you, otherwise, claim something that is believable and try to give semi-true information to town
it does work sometimes but im not very good, i usually only claim the invest role if i get a what is your role whisper and put together a makeshift will, but thanks for the feedback
FlipSideKiller it's been pretty hilarious. New players aren't sure on what is medusa bait, so medusa (in every game I've played today) has gotten so many kills just by N1..
What does cc and tk stand for , I'm new to this game and there are short versions of words that ppl use in game and idk what they're even saying lol but I do know all the short versions for the roles Edit: Also TP does mean transport right idk can someone please tell me
CC stands for Counter Claim, TK is Town Killing (Which is usually Veteran or Vigi (can be Vamp hunter in Vamp games, and the Jailor is Town killing as well). A good idea while new at the game is to open the wiki to your class, will give you some helpful hints on what your role can do, and what to claim if you're evil (as you can read what kind of invest results are paired with your role). You'll get a feel for it after a while. I also believe you can open up role cards for all roles in game, but during the heat of action can be easy to forget
This has nothing to do with this game, but is it possible for only witch to win a game? If sk gf and witch are alive wouldn't what would happen if tthey he didn't kill the witch?
CC means Counterclaim. So, say all the docs are confirmed and another dude claims doc, they cc his claim and he would get lynched because he was counter-claimed.
I had the best ranked BM game. As is the case 95% of the time I claim spy when mafia. The town we’re playing around me because they believed I was confirmed and I didn’t BM for the first 6 nights. After we had a 4 on 2 with town I BM’d this annoying person. It’s so much better if you don’t BM at all. Keeps town guessing.
I don't know if anyone noticed, but the moment that decisively lost town the game was pretty funny: At the start of voting zucc tried to signal that he was being blackmailed by quickly accusing and canceling Silentstan a couple of times in the row. The (pretty dense) mayor thought that this was an honest accusation and joined in, killing Silentstan and therefore thrwoing the game.
RandomWords omg I didn’t notice that. That’s hilarious.
LOL that's a good observation, I was confused by that lynch
I saw that as well, trying to indicate a blackmail and mayor thought that was a vote up
I’m rewatching the gameplays:
Actually they lost when vigilante shot jailor, which was the most stupid shot I’ve ever seen before.
they should have shot mayor ;)
I don’t think that is to be considered a purposeful gamethrow tho, still really funny
Tatal A played really well -- that was fun to observe. He also types super fast, lol
Andy Lundeen To me, most of what Talal A did for the better part of the game was rant about bad town plays during the day; was good at night though.
@@fragrantwinter8233 He made himself look townie
MoonSilhouette77 Fair I suppose.
Not really he ranted over how his town team was bad would have lynched him just for being annoying tbh..But he played well at night
@@huh4801 I would've pinned him as jester, but jester died pretty early so I'd figure him for just being a super annoying town. He did the opposite of what skimm does: When skimm is maf, he acts like a smart town member (but conveniently just dumb enough to let some random lynches slide), whereas talal acted like a typical "you all suck" townie. He talks without really adding anything, which makes people ignore him and allow him to fly under the radar. For an example of how a typical mafia member acts, the GF in this game was much quieter and more suspicious.
Mediums such an easy role to claim
N1-None dead
N2-Everyone left
N3-The one person who stayed wont talk.
That was a legit will I had lol
Invest invests you a wow what a surprise you showed up as Vig/Vet/Maf
I claim sheriff a lot
Did the people actually leave lol
talal is good holy shit
“Your claim doesn’t always need to be the obvious one”
THIS.
Like seriously, the amount of times I’ve won as Blackmailer after claiming something like sheriff surprises me.
"zooc"
"pursephone"
Talal A mentioned the worst RM role is Disguiser. I think it would be interesting if the Disguiser disguises as town, and is shot by vigi, the vigi should still die from guilt afterwards, thinking they killed town.
Check 'Best Will' game. Someone shot the Disguiser who disguised as an Invest. They didn't die from guilt but it scared the daylights out of the Vigi who thought they shot town with a convincing will.
I am blackmailed.
Burak Yürek lmao
*_We could not find a last will. Lord Sivler's role was Juggernaut._*
Fake blackmail clearly
This is coven
Had to of been a disguiser I suppose
Fun (or not) fact: Giles Corey was a real victim of the Salem trials. The sheriff who executed him? Jonathan Corwin.
All of default names are real persons who were on Salem.
uvuvwevwevwe onyetenyevwe ugwemubwem ossas exactly useless fun fact
uvuvwevwevwe onyetenyevwe ugwemubwem ossas Yep, it’s cool right?
Queen Creepycandy the judge was hathorne I think
Is Alotta Fagina a real victim?
That's my nick btw ..
The way he said "zucc" made me die laughing
Zook
make a discord so that 15 people can all play at once, lying with their voice instead of chat
Daniel Cole That’s a good idea!
that sounds chaotic as fuck. Do you know how many people would be talking over each other trying to get their point across with such limited time? No way that would work. lol evils would need their own chat too in that case. That's too much.
Daniel Cole check out justkiddingparty’s mafia games, so entertaining with real people
Mafia could still use in game chat
True but it doesn't make 15 people in a voice chat ideal for a proper gameplay. Just, too many people and too many things to keep up with ontop of what's already presented in the game itself. So many chaotic possibilities. lol
What the heck? "sheriff is a ww claim"
you just voted down a sheriff claim
wot
ToS logic.
So does doctor = SK I don't get that claim ;-;
When the invest results are doc/sk/framer, sure as heck you ain’t claiming framer or sk, and all doc claims are FISHY
Well, werewolves pretend to be executioners by pretending to be sheriff and calling some random guy out as mafia. If he is town and gets lynched, say you're executioner and swear your allegiance to town.
Ashwath Toontown until some one is lynched or a jester is hung 😂
Talal played incredibly well, damn, really good shit
I normally hate gaming videos bc most people who do it have an annoying voice, but you actually sound nice and make your videos interesting. Glad I subscribed!!
I think Talal is just me as a town member in any classic game “this town is so bad” “if this is vig I’m jumping out my window” lmao
I get so nervous when I play as maf because you can make so many mistakes and it all depends on if the town notices or not.
This game is 100% my guilty pleasure
Ayy, I played with Talal A before too, a really good player
I used to be a noob that always lost but after watching you I got my first win thnx so much
You deserve a lot more subs you’re videos are great :) id flip out if I was in a game with you
Love your videos!! Never stop!!
simple.
Step 1: Click home button
Step 2: Click Yes
Step 3: Go into classic
Step 4: Roll people
Your such a inspiration for me bcause your so good in Town of salem and i love TOS and want to become so good as you are
Ok, I know this is random, but I wanna see fanart of all the stupid things a trans/witch can do to people (like a mafioso attacking himself- or other maf, lookout watching themselves and seeing the witch visit them. Escort roleblocking themselves, ect.) Just the concepts alone are just... freaking beautiful.
Mystic Moonlight or a transporter making a witch control themself.
Ive seen a jan clean his own dead body
Skimm, if you are blackmailer, claim spy
the inves will see spy,blackmailer or Jailor
half the time that's really obvious if it's known there's a bmer, and a spy will can be tricky to fake. So while he didn't bm this game, and probably could have claimed spy... I liked the med claim.
The odds of an invest picking you up early game is enough to make it not really matter imo. The fake will for maf early game is essentially just a jailor-ward. If an inv outs themselves as the game progresses, then yeah you might want to switch. I'm sure skimm would have switched were that the case.
You should claim in you invest result range only if forced by an investigator (will or claim). Otherwise it's always better to claim
something else.
Viriais spy is still a good claim for any mafia since you can see who the mafia visit.
No, Spy is not a good claim as mafia.
Also, It's good to have balanced claims across the mafia members... As in all of them should not claim TI...You might end up contradicting each other.
Hey Skimm, I'm still learning some stuff about Salem, I wanted your opinion on what Talal said. Do you agree that you shouldn't claim a role as maf until someone asks you?
im not skimm but you want to have a claim ready and a reasonable explanation for why you didnt claim until a certain point in the game, if you do decide to wait with cc'ing
Thanks, being Maf is really hard then :')
Not always but usually. If you claim early there's a risk of your claim dying leaving you with either rt or no space at all. But on the other hand if you claim early and sound believable when they try to kill you you can go like "Dude I am confirmed _______ I claimed day _______ and got the ____________" or something like that. Also if you are claiming something your role doesn't show when investigated (for example medium as mafioso which shows up as vig/vet/maf) then you might wanna claim early so that the investigators and sheriffs have no reason to investigate you.
Hammurabi the ForgotMeme only trouble with that is that, if they investigate you anyways, you get lynched immediately, or blackmailed into helping town/whoever found you until you get lynched later. Risky move. So yeah, mafia can be pretty difficult.
Funnily enough, my first maf win was also my first ranked game, and it's the only maf game on my belt where the entire team survived.
"Why is kylie dead" - because vigi shot jailor.
Mayor and escort... That really hurt your claim
I once got tired of mafia roles one night as I got it 8 times in a row. I ended up with the blackmailer role and decided to just pick 1 person at random and blackmail them every night. by the end of the 8th night, I spoke up and said this person has not said a single thing all night. We hung him and it was the Sk. He was really salty for being blackmailed 8 nights in a row I won;t say what all he said lol. The mafia somehow came out with no deaths in the end and winning the game.
0:40 talal decided to disguise as vulnerable loli
Look at ELO at the end. What is 1330+7?
Skimm = 1337 confirmed
Dalton Morphis means he got 7 elo that game
I think he's pointing out that 1330+7 = 1337 = LEET = elite
Maybe a typo and accidentally wrote "Skimm" twice in his equation, probably meant Skimm = l337 confirmed or something? idk
Andy Lundeen, thanks for pointing that out
I cc 1337
I know you also record for entertainment, but the entire thing with the Vigi could have been avoided if you finished organizing your will at night (and a lot of other possible misplays in previous videos). It's very important to see who was killed by what in the morning and what their will says...especially in Ranked where people will go agro at the slightest misplay.
Also, Talal played really well; just wanna give props to that person if they ever see this comment.
Play a game there there is 8 town 3 maf 4 random neutrals
Destiny Gamez Ranked practice?
The King that's nothing like ranked practice
Stinky Ron well, that's exactly what I play when I play ranked practice.
The King Ranked Practice is 4 Mafia( GF, Mafioso, Random Mafia, Random Mafia) 9 town( Jailor, TI,TI, TK,TP,TS,RT,RT,RT. ) and 2 Neutrals ( NE,NK). Totally different
PENIS POTION
Congrats, Skimm on your new Sub
Skimm what keyboard do you use? Please I need to know!
If Skimm plays with
non-cooperative town:lose
cooperative town:wins
Gotta love that day 2 lynch lmfao
How to blackmailer: Always go after zucc.
The first time I played black mailer I over heard vital things on my first day the retri talking to the jailer, so I knew who to hit. And I knew their plans to bring back a doctor, retri and jailer died. But idiotically I proceeded (the next day) to accidentally paste my notes in the chat, I was shocked when nobody noticed till the next day. My fake role was Bg (my go to) when people said I should’ve been LO, (honestly idk about playing LO because it’s easily disproved, unless you use your fellow mafia members, but then you reveal them so idk.)
1:28 I died cause my name LOL
6:07 skimm are you doing what I think you are doing
In any casual mode like All Any, one strat is blackmail the same person until they die or leave. Worked for me in All Any.
i like how you call zucc even to its not supposed to be read that way
Ya mean "Getting on a good Mafia team where the Disg is good AF"
Skimm, don't play with your food!
Loool the vulnerable Loli really died first ahaha
Q U O T H the raven, “Eat my shorts!”
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I love ads that's why I watch the videos
great job bud. anyone can look from the outside in and say what u could have dont better but i love your plays. BUT can we get mor pirate runs ^_^
Looks like other than Skimm himself, other 2 but the original GF are kinda smart.
You guys are insanely good at this. If only my ranked games are like this...
dat season rating though at the end
Enjoyed this a lot :D
Watching your vids always makes me play TOS :D and :P
I bought the Coven Expansion while it was on sale I am so happy :D
10:05 its pronounced “vun-de bar” not wonder-bar
Interesting game. How active is it? Are you finding yourself playing against the same people over and over?
Town of Salem My Fav Game!
One thing I can’t stand in ToS is the constant abstains, the amount of times I was town and ppl abstained for no reason is ridiculous. Could’ve saved me.
I just got done playing a game where town believed a confirmed evil 3 times in a row
King Of The Town Of Salem
Few questions from a noob - wth is cc? What is scum/skimm/skum reading liek?
6:00
So much for the medium claim I guess lol
Yas
what screen recording system do you use!
The game said that someone was BG, Also, Doc but he was spy.
Skim how can you see the whispers
*Blackmails only 2 times the entire game* Video title: "HOW TO BLACKMAILER" ........... No shit sherlock!
How to blackmailer: hope you get smart maf and do basically nothing.
Black mailer is my favorite role
ZUCC XDXDXD(GREAT PRONUNCIATION)
One of Talals mistake was his exclimation on the vig shooting the jailor; she would've died anyways because that night she was attacked by mafia I guess its because it was a waste of a townie.... Otherwise fantastic game by mafia, also got lucky with all the vig claims.
13:25 Pay attention, the mayor died to mad that night, the vig died of guilt
Did you read the last part of my post?
SKIMM! I have been having hard times winning as Mafia in Ranked because I don't know what to claim. What do you recommend to claim as the mafia?
go here: town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Investigator
claim a role that has your results
ex: if your disg, maybe claim doc..
^dont do this^, people will likely see through this, only do this when there is an invest in game that might invest you, otherwise, claim something that is believable and try to give semi-true information to town
it does work sometimes but im not very good, i usually only claim the invest role if i get a what is your role whisper and put together a makeshift will, but thanks for the feedback
Hey, question! What’s the purpose of waiting 2 days to BM? Just to throw people off?
bmer can read whispers, so when people don't know a bmer's in the game, they feel comfortable whispering, allowing bmer to give maf an advantage
really smooth but some missreads on your part. lol
9:15 I think its "suck" as in mark zuckerberg
What do you think of the Free Coven Weekend?
FlipSideKiller it's been pretty hilarious. New players aren't sure on what is medusa bait, so medusa (in every game I've played today) has gotten so many kills just by N1..
is coven free rn? can i finally play coven with my friends?
Salty Popcorn yup! Free all weekend! (Worth the money too, if you're wondering)
Can TP protect the Mayor once they reveal? Sorry, I'm listening to the video while working.
Doctor can't.
Please help me. What does CC mean in ToS standards. I never hear it in ranked practice.
CC is Counter-Claim.
Lissiebeth Thanks! I had stopped playing ToS for like 3 months so I forgot...
How to claim mediumN1- No deaths N2 - N Infinite Complain about dead people being salty and not sharing info
6:36 OOF
What does cc and tk stand for , I'm new to this game and there are short versions of words that ppl use in game and idk what they're even saying lol but I do know all the short versions for the roles
Edit: Also TP does mean transport right idk can someone please tell me
CC stands for Counter Claim, TK is Town Killing (Which is usually Veteran or Vigi (can be Vamp hunter in Vamp games, and the Jailor is Town killing as well). A good idea while new at the game is to open the wiki to your class, will give you some helpful hints on what your role can do, and what to claim if you're evil (as you can read what kind of invest results are paired with your role). You'll get a feel for it after a while.
I also believe you can open up role cards for all roles in game, but during the heat of action can be easy to forget
Tp is town protective (as in bg, doc, ect...) In most cases, depends on context sometimes
Transporter is usually from what I’ve seen shortened to trans
Is claiming jester while on stand as mafia good or bad. Like most players see through it but if I'm in classic...
jailor will likely exe you the following night, so yeah, maybe if there are no kill capable roles, but people will very likely see through it
This has nothing to do with this game, but is it possible for only witch to win a game? If sk gf and witch are alive wouldn't what would happen if tthey he didn't kill the witch?
Yes it is.
Surprised they didn't do role call O>O
thats kinda like vfr, not commonly used until late, and some people hate it
whats this "CC" claim thing? never understood this
CC means Counterclaim. So, say all the docs are confirmed and another dude claims doc, they cc his claim and he would get lynched because he was counter-claimed.
Ok so I just got interested in the game I'm curious on what cc means I know most everything else but cc
CC means Counter claim
I had the best ranked BM game. As is the case 95% of the time I claim spy when mafia. The town we’re playing around me because they believed I was confirmed and I didn’t BM for the first 6 nights. After we had a 4 on 2 with town I BM’d this annoying person. It’s so much better if you don’t BM at all. Keeps town guessing.
Imagine being vigilante and shooting the jailor.... sadchamp.
WHAT IS CC?
Guys I’m new to toe what does cc mean I’m used to it being crowd control
counter claim
@TwoPercentSkimm I figured it out looong ago
i got so mad when he said zooc instead of zucc, its pronounced like suck, but with a z at the beginning. zucc
oooh 14th!!! cool!
yay
What does cc mean
Frisky Watermelon counter claim
Frisky Watermelon counter claim
Thought it meant Confirmed Claim.
counter claim
BEAUTYPITTSTOP 101 what do you mean by counter claim?
Cavers"wait till you get double forgers"
In all any got triple framer and a gf
what does CC mean in this game???
counter claim
I still can't figure out what a cc is ;^;
Counter claim. Means you also claim the role they do.
What does tp means?
Town Protective so that means roles of Doctor and Bodyguard
Alana Maxwell oh thank you!!