I was waiting for this video. Been trying to build this team, but I couldn't find a decent enough guide to follow, so thank you bagel for making this series
i needed this sooooo much as a returning player from 2 years ago when b10s was it. this is literally what i needed to get started on getting these dotters working for me thanks as always great vid bagel keep it up man!!!
I finished building my dot team yesterday and It worked pretty well (0:55~1:30) Sath (6*)- Double Will/energy (80% accuracy) Tatu (6*)- Double Will/shield (40% accuracy) Mellia (5*)- violent/Focus (80% accuracy) Mellia (5*)- triple fight (I was trying to use lushen but It didn't work) (60% accuracy) Water Homunculus (6*)- despair/broken (65% accuracy) Turn order: homunc, 2x mellia's, sath, tatu
time stamp 25 min in = Mind Blown. been watching your videos for a while and i must say i dont follow a lot of people on youtube but this video has tipped the scales for you. thank you for all that you do and you have my support
If u r just shy of oneshotting the waves with ur lushen try some artifacts with increased damage dealt to water on him. The Crystals r probably not ur problem and like 10% more dmg on the golems might get u there.
People who try to build the team: Dont underestimate the difference in exp you get between b4 and b5 in the dimensional hole. B5 takes 111 runs, b4 takes 142! The 31 energy takes 2 1/2 days to refill and not just 1 like Jewbagel said, 5 if you have to do both Tatu and Sath on b4. That being said, dont be discouraged if you can only do b4. A 100% b4 team is 100 times better than an unstable b5 Team, so dont force it if you dont have the runes for it. We farm runes every day, farming a bit slower for 5 more days more wont break you. :D
Some helpful info: You dont need a lushen to clear the waves if you are just looking for something consistent to start out. You can use Sig with his HP lead also if you aren't going for speed but for safety but if you do double will shield is a must
yo for those of you that cant have the bagel rune this is the budget guide that i use, you can just put lushen the last one to move, turn order is Sath, melia a, melia b, tatu so lushen just for clear the rest that miss the dot and make sure someone have Shield rune just in case the crystal hit you or boss revenge, then sath(faster than melia) melia(+104 both) can just use Anyrune(vio will make it more reliable + fully skill up melia skill 2) with slot 2 speed, slot 4 HP% and slot 6 acc is fine too, for tatu(+80 or lower is fine) she must use vio since she have gonna use skill 3 100% when available, for lushen 20-30 speed work fine as long the damage of amp at least 3-5k , not really need fight rune or will, even the tower no tower is fine, i mean this is farm team and you dont want use the best rune for them right, 90% sucess rate for me, 38 sec best time with average 1 minute ish
the reason sath go first is because kf mellia atrack target with dot she gonna put 2 dot, and for each enemy you only need 5 dot, so 1 from sath, 2 feom melia a, 2 from melia b, tatu boom, some still alive ? lushen finish up
love you so much man, i built that team yesterday and wiped a few times. Then you pop up with that video u just have the energy to feel what people need i guess
Swapping lushen to way more cdmg at expense of attack is probably going to make him kill the wave, cuz you're getting so much atk from the fight runes but it's not getting amped by the cdmg as much as it would otherwise. If it was rage instead of fatal, where normally it wouldn't matter that much, I think in this case it probably makes the difference.
@Bagel this may help some. My BG12 team has over 99% reliability (over 1200 runs logged). My lushen does NOT 1-shot waves and NOTHING on vio. Tatu (5* only!). Sath on rev, both mellia on shield. Turn order (with speeds in brackets) 1.Sath (+104) 100% acc. Will Will Revenge 2.Mellia 1 (+86) Will Will Shield 3.Mellia 2 (+79) Will Will Shield 4.Tatu (+39) Will Will Fight 5.Lushen (+39) 2179 Att, 185 CD, Fatal Blade Everything but lushen has high HP (+24 k on sath as he must survive if boss gets a turn). Hope this helps someone!
I hate b4 of pixie, my astar wouldn't die and neither would Shannon bc the crystal would heal before she killed anything but I have her on vamp so she just keeps regening
If anyone is currently building this. Those speeds in the chart are "exact". If your Lushen for instance is too fast, it WILL mess with the tick order and Tatu will move before Mellia gets another turn
Thst's what I was gonna say, they are speedtuned in a way that all of them have the same spd with a maxed tower, so tatu needs to be on last slot in the team to attack last. Only thing i don't understand is why +180spd on the 2nd mellia
First, the difference between doing them on B4 vs B5 is 3 or 4 days of dimensional hole energy. Second, I was a little crazy and did Tatu on B5. Used Vela Perna Khmun. Slow as hell but never failed.
While trying to 2a the water pixie I auto'ed b5. It was 100% successful. Each run was about 9 minutes. A total run time for 10-run was 89:42.24. I did this all the way to 100% AXP.
I must be missing something about his recommendation for the Grim reaper lvl 5 team. He kept saying to use a Velajuel Spectra team. But both are Support units. How can they be used together?
Thank you for this video. I've been looking to build this team for a good while now but can't find any comprehensive guides on stats and runes for these units :)
The 180 spd is, what mellia should have with rune so base + rune = 180... Just a little thing to make it better :) Love your Videos, keep the great work up
@@nerzai7444 Like I may be able to hit the 177 requirement, but it's gonna be a lot more of a pain and require reruning like half my units after I strip everyone. But I'll see what I can find related to the "two slower Mellias" and see if that's more reasonable for me. Also seeing if I can even pull off a one shot Lushen.
i thought that I am not capable of making a fire team for the water pixie dungeon, but now if bagel says its ok it means i'm not as bad at this game as i thought :D
I mean, if you can't build it just do a lower level. Work with what you have and don't stress about things you can't do because if you can't build a fire b5 team with what you have now you won't be able to change that in the very near future anyways, I guess. Since the energy is capped it is no use to wait, at least if you can't do b5 before your dimension energy is maxed.
quick question if my lushen outspeeds the sath and my tatu is 43 additional speed but my sath is 69 speed do i need the +194 speed mellia based on 43 tatu or +199 mellia based on the +69 sath?
i dont understand why my team keeps failing, i replaced one mellia with the water homu/rica but the logic should be the same right? ughh its just so frustrating it only doesnt seem to work for me Dx
Does rushing a sath mellia tatu db team work with the new free runes, currently attempting to skip the traditional starter gb team and go straight to dot
My son and I were just talking about these teams a few days ago. Unfortunately I only have one Mellia. Also, could I get a copy of this spreedsheet? Thanks!
Would you be down to take a look at my setup and show me where I am supposed to be at? I have gotten rid of some major players randomly and played off and on for multiple years, but I cant beat Giants b12 or some of the other major progression sections.
Wait I am confused, why does his DoTs deal 29,826 damage on the boss but when I deal damage with dots in the same b12 I deal 14,913 on the boss per dot
is there a problem if lushen is the fastest in the team? (mine can clear waves ) or 1 mellia should be faster to force the AI of lushen to use 3rd skill?
Can Lushen have like 180 speed or more, when Mellia #1 has 278, Melia #2 has 155, Sath has 159 and Tatu has 152 speed? without towers. Or would it screw something?
So I don't have my lushen built and have been running fran as my leader for heals and immunity. the spd helps also. I clear b12 just fine maybe you can use her in this comp too
Hi!! I just started 2 days ago and my main team right now is magical knight 6 stars, shanon 4 stars, 9 tail fox 4 stars, martial cat 4 stars, and vampire 4 stars. Any tips on how I can progress faster/easier judging from the units that i have.
I've been using the fire pixie since it's been 2A'd and since the grim reaper had been 2A'd the team just got better. I need to speed tune them though.
I did it with fran loren skogul and sath, just put skogul in vampire, and focus left tower then right and then the boss, fail just 1 time in the whole awaken energy
Crazy, Was literally building this team up as this was released. Great timing bagel
And? ._. he is better than yiu
It's step-by-step guide, not for you man)
Same
@@dylanaustin1 its step by step you noob
@@Talking_Bugatti homie that’s why it helped me
I was waiting for this video. Been trying to build this team, but I couldn't find a decent enough guide to follow, so thank you bagel for making this series
Same. Just got back into summoners war and great timing at that cause these videos are helping
Actually one of your best series on youtube is so helpful i improve 23 sec average in every run, from 1:05 to 42 sec average
I almost choked up when I saw his Mellia having more SPD than my fastest unit lmfao
Yep, me too. My fastest orion is only +169
This is relatable and it hurts.
@@red_dll Tbh I cant farm GB12 bcs of how inconsistent my melia team is thats why I lack of swift runes
Kinda funny back in the days i had a gb10 team but no db10 team but now with tricaru I end up having a db12 team but no gb12 Haha
@@FiestaPotato Same. Easy Tricaru for DB12, NB12 and PC10 but my GB12 is inconsistent (Lushen, Fran, Loren, Laika, Kro).
i needed this sooooo much as a returning player from 2 years ago when b10s was it. this is literally what i needed to get started on getting these dotters working for me thanks as always great vid bagel keep it up man!!!
I finished building my dot team yesterday and It worked pretty well (0:55~1:30)
Sath (6*)- Double Will/energy (80% accuracy)
Tatu (6*)- Double Will/shield (40% accuracy)
Mellia (5*)- violent/Focus (80% accuracy)
Mellia (5*)- triple fight (I was trying to use lushen but It didn't work) (60% accuracy)
Water Homunculus (6*)- despair/broken (65% accuracy)
Turn order: homunc, 2x mellia's, sath, tatu
Does it work for all dungeons?
time stamp 25 min in = Mind Blown. been watching your videos for a while and i must say i dont follow a lot of people on youtube but this video has tipped the scales for you. thank you for all that you do and you have my support
If u r just shy of oneshotting the waves with ur lushen try some artifacts with increased damage dealt to water on him. The Crystals r probably not ur problem and like 10% more dmg on the golems might get u there.
This here. Damage on element is much more impactful towards increasing damage with other useful stats in artifacts
People who try to build the team:
Dont underestimate the difference in exp you get between b4 and b5 in the dimensional hole. B5 takes 111 runs, b4 takes 142! The 31 energy takes 2 1/2 days to refill and not just 1 like Jewbagel said, 5 if you have to do both Tatu and Sath on b4. That being said, dont be discouraged if you can only do b4. A 100% b4 team is 100 times better than an unstable b5 Team, so dont force it if you dont have the runes for it. We farm runes every day, farming a bit slower for 5 more days more wont break you. :D
Love this series, thank you for all the work you put into this, much appreciated.
I love this series of Meta Teams ! I did the meta team of Astar/Tricaru because of you and it works pretty good.
Some helpful info: You dont need a lushen to clear the waves if you are just looking for something consistent to start out. You can use Sig with his HP lead also if you aren't going for speed but for safety but if you do double will shield is a must
Title says “the best team” not “something to use if you don’t have the best team”
Vero is best if you can't Lushen
yo for those of you that cant have the bagel rune this is the budget guide that i use, you can just put lushen the last one to move, turn order is Sath, melia a, melia b, tatu so lushen just for clear the rest that miss the dot and make sure someone have Shield rune just in case the crystal hit you or boss revenge, then sath(faster than melia) melia(+104 both) can just use Anyrune(vio will make it more reliable + fully skill up melia skill 2) with slot 2 speed, slot 4 HP% and slot 6 acc is fine too, for tatu(+80 or lower is fine) she must use vio since she have gonna use skill 3 100% when available, for lushen 20-30 speed work fine as long the damage of amp at least 3-5k , not really need fight rune or will, even the tower no tower is fine, i mean this is farm team and you dont want use the best rune for them right, 90% sucess rate for me, 38 sec best time with average 1 minute ish
the reason sath go first is because kf mellia atrack target with dot she gonna put 2 dot, and for each enemy you only need 5 dot, so 1 from sath, 2 feom melia a, 2 from melia b, tatu boom, some still alive ? lushen finish up
thank you for the tips
Need some of these teams it's just time to build the units. Thanks
love you so much man, i built that team yesterday and wiped a few times. Then you pop up with that video u just have the energy to feel what people need i guess
Was gonna try this but nowhere near getting a 180 spd mellia so RIP the dream
Thank you Bagel, really needed this video!
Swapping lushen to way more cdmg at expense of attack is probably going to make him kill the wave, cuz you're getting so much atk from the fight runes but it's not getting amped by the cdmg as much as it would otherwise. If it was rage instead of fatal, where normally it wouldn't matter that much, I think in this case it probably makes the difference.
Thanks for the vid I managed to finish building the team right now and the rune info was amazing
Thanks for the advice on the B5 pixie dungeon! Doing B4 for Tatu was waaay easier.
@Bagel this may help some. My BG12 team has over 99% reliability (over 1200 runs logged). My lushen does NOT 1-shot waves and NOTHING on vio. Tatu (5* only!). Sath on rev, both mellia on shield. Turn order (with speeds in brackets)
1.Sath (+104) 100% acc. Will Will Revenge
2.Mellia 1 (+86) Will Will Shield
3.Mellia 2 (+79) Will Will Shield
4.Tatu (+39) Will Will Fight
5.Lushen (+39) 2179 Att, 185 CD, Fatal Blade
Everything but lushen has high HP (+24 k on sath as he must survive if boss gets a turn).
Hope this helps someone!
For anyone wondering, Aster Verdehile and Raoq is also super good for fire pixie on b4 of awakening dungeon
I hate b4 of pixie, my astar wouldn't die and neither would Shannon bc the crystal would heal before she killed anything but I have her on vamp so she just keeps regening
If anyone is currently building this. Those speeds in the chart are "exact". If your Lushen for instance is too fast, it WILL mess with the tick order and Tatu will move before Mellia gets another turn
2a Shaman is great to speed up the lvl5 2a reaper dungeon.
He is defense class with insane dmg potential against dark type units.
Awesome thank you. Getting ready to build my GB team.
Was thinking Tatu isn't too fast, it's her position in team.
Thst's what I was gonna say, they are speedtuned in a way that all of them have the same spd with a maxed tower, so tatu needs to be on last slot in the team to attack last. Only thing i don't understand is why +180spd on the 2nd mellia
@@xrandomturtle5440 I am pretty sure so you can get an Additional turn before tato goes
@@xrandomturtle5440 180+ so she can attac two times before the enemy
First, the difference between doing them on B4 vs B5 is 3 or 4 days of dimensional hole energy. Second, I was a little crazy and did Tatu on B5. Used Vela Perna Khmun. Slow as hell but never failed.
While trying to 2a the water pixie I auto'ed b5. It was 100% successful. Each run was about 9 minutes. A total run time for 10-run was 89:42.24. I did this all the way to 100% AXP.
Finally new meta team episode XD
I must be missing something about his recommendation for the Grim reaper lvl 5 team. He kept saying to use a Velajuel Spectra team. But both are Support units. How can they be used together?
That was my same response when i heard the recommendation? I went to check it out because i never tried that team before and figures why i hadn’t.
it was spectra or velajuel from my understanding
Gb12 under a minute with low rune reqiurement is crazy :O
"low"
Thank you for this video. I've been looking to build this team for a good while now but can't find any comprehensive guides on stats and runes for these units :)
Total agree on tatu tip i did the same thing
The 180 spd is, what mellia should have with rune so base + rune = 180... Just a little thing to make it better :) Love your Videos, keep the great work up
no 180 additional so 284 total speed
Hemos: (*poisons the targets*)
Tatu: IGNITE *BOOM*
She... turned poison into a combustible (like gasoline) then blew it all up? What?
I'm was super excited for this, until I realized that there is at least a +177 spd Mellia requirement...
there is a team with both mellias moving after sath and before tatu just follow that one and youre good
@@nerzai7444 Like I may be able to hit the 177 requirement, but it's gonna be a lot more of a pain and require reruning like half my units after I strip everyone. But I'll see what I can find related to the "two slower Mellias" and see if that's more reasonable for me. Also seeing if I can even pull off a one shot Lushen.
@@bighead074 look up aced it gaming “dot team gb12 for midgamers” it has a weak lushen and 2 slow mellias that might work for you
I was building this team, thanks bagel :)
i thought that I am not capable of making a fire team for the water pixie dungeon, but now if bagel says its ok it means i'm not as bad at this game as i thought :D
I mean, if you can't build it just do a lower level. Work with what you have and don't stress about things you can't do because if you can't build a fire b5 team with what you have now you won't be able to change that in the very near future anyways, I guess. Since the energy is capped it is no use to wait, at least if you can't do b5 before your dimension energy is maxed.
That moment when +2230 atk +230 crit damage rage lushen doesn't one shot the wave with literally 8 fight sets. Time to do arena - _-
quick question if my lushen outspeeds the sath and my tatu is 43 additional speed but my sath is 69 speed do i need the +194 speed mellia based on 43 tatu or +199 mellia based on the +69 sath?
i dont understand why my team keeps failing, i replaced one mellia with the water homu/rica but the logic should be the same right? ughh its just so frustrating it only doesnt seem to work for me Dx
can you use thrain instead of a second melia?
ff
i am also planning to use a 2a thrain as second melia
I tried making this, after 5 years of farming everyday, and using the best runes I have, I couldn't even come close to +180 speed. My best was +133.
same here XD +131 melia is sad
pro trick: watch series at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching a lot of movies recently.
@Alijah Franklin Yup, I have been watching on flixzone for since november myself =)
That's pretty sad guys.
Like with the event where u craft runes u can't have more, kinda sad xD
Thank you Bagel
is this still a viable team? getting back into the game and need to farm some runes
I have my team runed so differently. My fastest team is 34 sec so it works fine. But nice and clear video.
With the new DH dungeon, we cant really complain too much on the wacky monster types anymore. Sneaky sneaky.
Vela and bellows are both good here mmm great just pulled them both 3 days ago solid
I always die when Lushen doesn’t amp 3rd stage is there a solution?
Just finished building mine. Got the last piece during this 7a event. mine does fail some but it’s because of my lack of defense for the trash waves.
GREEEAT CONTENT you really show how to build the team from sratch good content for player wanting to make team congrats
Where can I find that list of mons that you were looking at of tikis meta teams?
Another F2P Friendly Team For Ellunia Pixie B4 Is Verde, 2A Raoq & Ken (Shadowclaw). It's The Team I Use.
would water homie work instead of 2nd mellia cuz the 7y scrolls did me dirty
theres scam stone rottion with melias in 3 weeks
Me wondering why bagel is still putting tatu in the second spot when she the same speed as sath
Is this a good swift slot 4 cd rune? 11 speed, 15% hp, 20%atk and flat defense which will change to either crit chance or def % for Bruiser Lagmaron
I think it is alrightif you can still grind it. Spd is a little low for my taste but it is usable for sure.
@@red_dll yeah I tried rolling for 2 speed but wasted like 20 coins and still couldn't get 2 speed rolls
Does rushing a sath mellia tatu db team work with the new free runes, currently attempting to skip the traditional starter gb team and go straight to dot
My son and I were just talking about these teams a few days ago. Unfortunately I only have one Mellia. Also, could I get a copy of this spreedsheet? Thanks!
Nice, I am going to give it a try !!!!
What would anyone think about switching a one of the mellia's out for nora?
Would you be down to take a look at my setup and show me where I am supposed to be at? I have gotten rid of some major players randomly and played off and on for multiple years, but I cant beat Giants b12 or some of the other major progression sections.
Question why do we need high acc if the gb12 acc cap is 54% isn't that just wasted stats ?
Wait I am confused, why does his DoTs deal 29,826 damage on the boss but when I deal damage with dots in the same b12 I deal 14,913 on the boss per dot
Youusing 2A fire reaper? Thats what doubles the damage
Hey Jew daddy, I’m a returning player and there vids help a lot with getting back into things
what can i do if i have only one mellia ???
Would it matter if they're all faster than that but still the order of speed turns for everyone?
Fire twins with raq and pixie is what I used and it works like a charm
What can you do if you don't have a lushen?
Is there a dot team without double mellia cause I don’t have one. Also is lushen changeable cause I made a pact to never use
and i still cant get a lushen =,( my 7th aniversary scrolls over and 0 lushen
Does sath built like this still works for sf10 and and toah?
is there a problem if lushen is the fastest in the team? (mine can clear waves ) or 1 mellia should be faster to force the AI of lushen to use 3rd skill?
Looooool I was watching this and was thinking you had the team set up wrong it goes left to right
Here comes the BOOM!
It's helpful. Thank you so much.
My account isn’t strong enough for fight runes, what is another 2 piece alternative
Are there any decent subs for a second Mellia? Or should I just not build this team without two?
you can use pang if you dont have 2 mellia, but runes will be way different
is the giants mellia spd team also possible with only one mellia?
what can i use if i don’t have a 2nd meliA
What is rune for loren?
clear giants keep b12 in auto mode without any friends help. Does this mission mean soloing giants B12 with one monster? Please let me know.
Can Lushen have like 180 speed or more, when Mellia #1 has 278, Melia #2 has 155, Sath has 159 and Tatu has 152 speed? without towers. Or would it screw something?
Best series ever.
Followed the chart and my Mellia laps Tatu in the mid boss but she doesn't in the boss stage lol. (Tatu is 41 and Mellia 177, I have max tower)
So I don't have my lushen built and have been running fran as my leader for heals and immunity. the spd helps also. I clear b12 just fine maybe you can use her in this comp too
Hi!! I just started 2 days ago and my main team right now is magical knight 6 stars, shanon 4 stars, 9 tail fox 4 stars, martial cat 4 stars, and vampire 4 stars. Any tips on how I can progress faster/easier judging from the units that i have.
Just quit
Can you put laika in gb12?
dont really have sath but i have dark one and the dark dryad it will still work right???
Sath is what makes the team. He doubles continuous damage
@@thelos3999 ooh ok thank you so much
Wait, does Mellia A need that much speed??? None of my regular units have that much speed (90 at most)!
can i make similar team if i have only one mellia?
Does my Lushen need to be at 100% cr? I can get him like 2k atk 240cd and 94cr
94 is enough, elemental advantage gives you that extra cr you're missing
so how about rica or water homu can they be a good 2a sath replacement?
No, u need sath times two dot
I've been using the fire pixie since it's been 2A'd and since the grim reaper had been 2A'd the team just got better. I need to speed tune them though.
DID YOU MAKE A VID FOR THE BLACKSMITH EVENT ??
Dot everything with 2 mellias + sath + tatu + ascasis on gb12 never failed.
Does one Mellia and Pang work equally as well?
I dont have lushen
What can i chance lushen ?
Your Lushen hits for 9k/card, and you need 10.5k/card to kill the golems.
Bagel is 3 team 1 dungeon will work if you have good runes?
I did it with fran loren skogul and sath, just put skogul in vampire, and focus left tower then right and then the boss, fail just 1 time in the whole awaken energy