I thought that the pre-electric era ended in the 1880s and 1890s, with Edison's invention of the light bulb and electric lights coming into homes and businesses everywhere during those decades
@KING VICTROLA That is true, it was.. But as for Kirk Barkley saying that the 1920s were in the pre-electric era, that's incorrect. The electric era began in the 1880s and 1890s as a result of Edison inventing the light bulb and the introduction to several other electrical appliances during those last 2 decades of the 19th century. That's also when Alexander Bell brought the world the telephone
@KING VICTROLA Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought that Kirk was referring to anything electrical including lights not being around yet when he mentioned the pre-electric era. But you're right, electric recordings weren't around before 1924
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I play my records at a speed that sounds right - and this may not necessarily always be at 78 rpm. Billy Murray sounds very natural and exactly how he should sound in this video and that is how I played it. I have been collecting and playing Billy Murray records (both disc and cylinder) for 25 years and have hundreds of his records. I feel fairly confident that I have an idea how his voice sounded and you are welcome to play your records however you like. Thanks for the comments.
my 8 year old got a kick out of that.. a song about a victrola played on a victrola.. she asked If I had a song about a victrola to play on our victrola. lol
Wonderful! FYI, as others have probably mentioned - and not that it really matters - "Victrola" specifically refers to models that followed this one, where the horn is hidden inside the cabinet. An external horn model like this was called "a Victor" or "a Victor Talking Machine". But, just like the name "Xerox" came to mean any copier (even though copiers were made by many companies other than Xerox), the term "Victrola" is often, mistakenly, used to mean ANY antique record player. Now you know.
Richard 1 Thanks for that information! I did NOT know that. I have an old Victrola with the horn INSIDE the box. I picked it up at a yard sale for cheap and it actually works just fine. It does say "Victrola" on it, but I thought the ones with the EXTERNAL horns were ALSO called Victrolas. I never even heard of a "Victor" or a "Victor Talking Machine"! That's an interesting piece of knowledge / trivia to know!
I saw this record at a antique show, but, did'nt have money to buy it. I would buy it now.Great sound, but you, should have played it on a Victrola, lol .
Billy Murray, billed as the Denver Nightingale, was one of the most prolific singers from the acoustic recording era. He sang solo like here, in duet, and as part of the Peerless Quartet. He had a pleasant, distinct voice that could be appreciated on these machines.
Well, I got my 1st Edison phonograph when I was a student, in 12th grade. I worked at a Boy Scout camp, the Summer of 1996. Saving my pay from that Summer, plus saving a few more months after that, I was able to buy a 1905 Edison Standard Phonograph from an antique store for $700. It came with 2 horns & 89 cylinders (16 of them, brown wax). I hope you do get a Phonograph (or Graphophone, Victor, or whatever brand you prefer) some day. And, Ada Jones & Billy Murray are some of my favorites, too.
You're very welcome. It's difficult to find a Billy Murray recording that is not delightful. He always sang very distinctly so that each word was clear and understandable. I have many of his early recordings.
I have to say that I watch a lot of videos that phonograph collectors post of their machines and the records they choose to play on them. I very seldom ever comment. Usually I’m happy to see what other collectors have and how they choose to present them. But yours… It might easily be one of my favorite videos. The reason being, not only is your machine beautifully preserved end authentic in appearance but the sound is impeccable! And you couldn’t have chosen a better artist and song to feature on this beautiful machine. However you recorded it… whether it was with a camera or a smart phone… the fidelity is clear and the whole experience is so enjoyable. Congratulations on a really fine post!
Thank you for your gracious and sincerely appreciated comments, Bill. Welcome comments like yours are what inspire me to post videos. It would be fun to have a get together of phonograph collectors in our general area someday to trade stories and so forth. : ) Have a great day.
I would imagine that any recording that promoted a competing product annoyed Edison. Since Billy was not bound by an exclusive recording contract with Edison there wasn't much he could do ayway : ). Thanks for stopping in for a visit, Rocky.
What a gem of a record! So bright & cheerful it rivals the peppy tunes & songs of the roaring twenties. Thanks for sharing this wonderful find, you're so lucky its in fine condition, well loved records are so often worn out.
Hi bobby it's James I haven't been able to contact you because I've been busy in the mess I've gotten a few more gramophones a s**** tones of records new records equipment the story is to long for a comment you can contact me at thedeccaman1921@gmail.com if you want to hear more
Billy Murray had a special voice . Was very alike to the soun technic of those times. This record is rellu a treasure for our ears. Dont you think that the invention of the Gramophone is someting magic and wonderful.Thanks I enjoyed it.
@christo930 If the sound box (the phonograph part that actually plays the record) is in good condition or has been rebuilt then the records will produce excellent volume. And would or should be easily heard depending on the size of the party of course. There is nothing that will remove the noise on early 78's, in general. The finest condition records will sound best.
What phonograph needles are you using? I just ran out of my original Victor needles and have been looking for the best modern produced needles I can get. The last modern ones I got looked more like poorly sharpened pencils rather than phonograph needles, the points were not at a consistent taper and they had rough edges. I tested them on a junk record and found that they destroyed the grooves; thankfully I did not try them on a good record.
This song makes me want to to listen to my Victrola. This song was sorta like it was advertised for the Victor Victrola according to the song what he just sang. It can also played on any record player which is my GE Wildcat which was a portable, and it was not a Victrola since it was made in the 1970's.
I wish I knew where to find Billy Murray 78s. My local record shop has a ton of 78s but I have had no luck finding songs like this. I have found a few on the thick Edison Diamond records, but those don't play on my turntable.
@JennelleBelle Thanks for the great comments! Sounds like a nice plan for the apartment. This is a truly enjoyable hobby that gives something back immediately in return for your investment when you can listen to the sounds from another time and virtually step back in time for a while.
omg i want one of these so badly!!!!! im trying to do my apartment in classic 20-40's style and this would be the perfect piece for my living room, right next to the beaded curatins:) id rather listen to records than the ipod or cd's...the raspy scratchiness adds to quality:)
O.K., fair enough. I hope I didn't come off as being too critical, I was just making an observation. As I said, I really enjoyed the song. I have listened to many of the other records you've posted on You Tube, & enjoy them very much. I'm glad that there are others who appreciate the old songs, as I do. I look forward to seeing more of your videos in the future. As I mentioned before, that really is a beautiful Victor. My only external horn machine is a 1905 Edison Standard. Have a good day.
@MusicBoxBoy What is it made out of? They didn't have vinyl back then, did they? I looked at the inflation calculator and $.75 had the same purchasing power as 16.20, which is actually low since they started understating inflation starting in the 70's and getting even worse in the 90s.
Primarily I use original, unused store stock Victor Talking Machine needles that I was fortunate to purchase years ago. But, I have also used needles from a couple of phonograph part suppliers that function just as well. If you want their contact names send me a personal message and I will respond to you that way rather than here.
If they had rough edges, just feel free to use sand paper: I did that also to re-sharp used needles. Just be careful and make sure you sharp then correctly
@MusicBoxBoy Thanks. These things are really neat, maybe one day I'll get one. They can play any 78 record, right? Even the ones made in the 50's or do you have to have specific vicrtrola branded records?
The old mechanical phonographs can’t play modern vinyl records. The spring motors spin at ~78rpm, most cant slow down to 33 1/3. In addition to speed, the heavy reproducer and steel needle would strip the soft vinyl groove of its music. The old records were made mostly of shellac, much harder than vinyl intended for light electric tonearms.
Now, this isn't something I would do. And I prefer the older songs, anyway. But, if someone was really curious... I once saw a Victrola in an antique store, where they only had 45's to demonstrate it with. So, at least some, could apparently be slowed down that much. With a Victrola, you only have the weight of the reproducer, as opposed to a front mounted Victor, with the weight of the tone arm & horn. And it wouldn't hurt to get a 1950's "set screw" microgroove needle, instead of a steel one.
@zeb1912 i've seen them used in the 30's. like in the movie color purple...its was 1935 when they were listening to the victrola in the bedroom. anyway, that whole era was great and i want it.
How loud are these? Would you be able to hear them in a party with the usual noises in a party? Is there any oil or something you can put on the records (like you can with vinyl records) to cut the hiss?
I have been collecting Billy Murray for years, i love the humor.
Clear and loud for a pre-Electric era recording (they began in Spring of 1925)
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I thought that the pre-electric era ended in the 1880s and 1890s, with Edison's invention of the light bulb and electric lights coming into homes and businesses everywhere during those decades
@KING VICTROLA That is true, it was.. But as for Kirk Barkley saying that the 1920s were in the pre-electric era, that's incorrect. The electric era began in the 1880s and 1890s as a result of Edison inventing the light bulb and the introduction to several other electrical appliances during those last 2 decades of the 19th century. That's also when Alexander Bell brought the world the telephone
@KING VICTROLA Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought that Kirk was referring to anything electrical including lights not being around yet when he mentioned the pre-electric era. But you're right, electric recordings weren't around before 1924
This is music from before my grandmother was born. It's beautiful.
Okay
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I play my records at a speed that sounds right - and this may not necessarily always be at 78 rpm. Billy Murray sounds very natural and exactly how he should sound in this video and that is how I played it. I have been collecting and playing Billy Murray records (both disc and cylinder) for 25 years and have hundreds of his records. I feel fairly confident that I have an idea how his voice sounded and you are welcome to play your records however you like. Thanks for the comments.
my 8 year old got a kick out of that.. a song about a victrola played on a victrola.. she asked If I had a song about a victrola to play on our victrola. lol
Because of people like you, records such as this will live on long after they are destroyed. Thank you.
^^Oh, so true! So true! Yes, John Doe! So true! Let's keep these tunes a 'rollin'!
This track made it's chart debit the week of December 5, 1914 and peaked at #6 over its three week run.
It amazes me that this is a non-electric powered machine that produces music!
The song reminds me A LOT of Billy Murray's rendition of "Get Out and Get Under!" LOVE IT!
Wonderful!
FYI, as others have probably mentioned - and not that it really matters - "Victrola" specifically refers to models that followed this one, where the horn is hidden inside the cabinet. An external horn model like this was called "a Victor" or "a Victor Talking Machine". But, just like the name "Xerox" came to mean any copier (even though copiers were made by many companies other than Xerox), the term "Victrola" is often, mistakenly, used to mean ANY antique record player. Now you know.
It's a great song.
Richard 1 Thanks for that information! I did NOT know that. I have an old Victrola with the horn INSIDE the box. I picked it up at a yard sale for cheap and it actually works just fine. It does say "Victrola" on it, but I thought the ones with the EXTERNAL horns were ALSO called Victrolas. I never even heard of a "Victor" or a "Victor Talking Machine"! That's an interesting piece of knowledge / trivia to know!
I thought the ones with external horns were victrolas...
Beautiful Victrola Gramopone
Excellent sound quality
I saw this record at a antique show, but, did'nt have money to buy it. I would buy it now.Great sound, but you, should have played it on a Victrola, lol .
@Volkan Manco a bit bro your 5 years late lol
È davvero una bellissima canzone.
Il disco poi, per essere del 1914, è conservato davvero bene.
I have a Victor 2 with a petal horn and a Victor Victrola 11. The wood horn gives a nice mellow tone. A very nice side thanks for posting!
My great grandmother had a cabinet victrola. We kids would play it all the time. We loved it!
Great recording! Billy Murray is my favorite male recording artist from that era. Ada Jones is my favorite female artist.
That record is virtually mint! Sounded great!! :-)
Billy Murray, billed as the Denver Nightingale, was one of the most prolific singers from the acoustic recording era. He sang solo like here, in duet, and as part of the Peerless Quartet. He had a pleasant, distinct voice that could be appreciated on these machines.
certainly i have him on british zonophone the record is from the early 20s
My God . So old 😊. I like to listen vintage music
this video makes me so happy and i don’t know why
Thanks for the nice reply. I'm pleased to hear that you enjoyed the video and the Victor III from my collection. Stop in again anytime.
Well, I got my 1st Edison phonograph when I was a student, in 12th grade. I worked at a Boy Scout camp, the Summer of 1996. Saving my pay from that Summer, plus saving a few more months after that, I was able to buy a 1905 Edison Standard Phonograph from an antique store for $700. It came with 2 horns & 89 cylinders (16 of them, brown wax).
I hope you do get a Phonograph (or Graphophone, Victor, or whatever brand you prefer) some day. And, Ada Jones & Billy Murray are some of my favorites, too.
You're very welcome. It's difficult to find a Billy Murray recording that is not delightful. He always sang very distinctly so that each word was clear and understandable. I have many of his early recordings.
I have to say that I watch a lot of videos that phonograph collectors post of their machines and the records they choose to play on them. I very seldom ever comment. Usually I’m happy to see what other collectors have and how they choose to present them. But yours… It might easily be one of my favorite videos. The reason being, not only is your machine beautifully preserved end authentic in appearance but the sound is impeccable! And you couldn’t have chosen a better artist and song to feature on this beautiful machine. However you recorded it… whether it was with a camera or a smart phone… the fidelity is clear and the whole experience is so enjoyable. Congratulations on a really fine post!
Thank you for your gracious and sincerely appreciated comments, Bill. Welcome comments like yours are what inspire me to post videos. It would be fun to have a get together of phonograph collectors in our general area someday to trade stories and so forth. : ) Have a great day.
@@MusicBoxBoy And hopefully we avoid people who go on long winded rants like the guy below this post!
beautiful sound ❤
I would imagine that any recording that promoted a competing product annoyed Edison. Since Billy was not bound by an exclusive recording contract with Edison there wasn't much he could do ayway : ). Thanks for stopping in for a visit, Rocky.
Gracias por compartir este tesoro musical.
TOTALMENTE DE ACUERDO CONTIGO ''SON INCUNABLES'',DESDE ''BUENOS AIRES---ARGENTINA''
Man, I would LOVE to have something like this in my living room. They’re so difficult to find in good shape, which is understandable, given their age.
I so enjoyed this.
I searched for a reminder.
🙏🏻🎶💝
That is a beautiful wood clad talking machine.
What a gem of a record! So bright & cheerful it rivals the peppy tunes & songs of the roaring twenties. Thanks for sharing this wonderful find, you're so lucky its in fine condition, well loved records are so often worn out.
I was born in the wrong era. What an innocent, pure and fun bit of music!
2:21
Black Wax Cylander Phonograph: Hello darkness my old friend...
The Wax Cylinder was the HDDVD of its day.
Its like : dont mind me just chillin here
One of my favorites by the wonderful Billy Murray!
wow, what a timeless classic, its beautiful!
Beautiful record player
I thought it said Bill Murray. I was confused.
Great Sound Thanks for posting!!!
Thanks, RCALennon. Your comments are sincerely appreciated.
I LOVE THIS! Very Cute! I LOVE Your Victor Machine!
Hi bobby it's James I haven't been able to contact you because I've been busy in the mess I've gotten a few more gramophones a s**** tones of records new records equipment the story is to long for a comment you can contact me at thedeccaman1921@gmail.com if you want to hear more
¡Dios! Qué maravilla de Victrola. Gracias, amigo, por cuidarla y compartir. Una joya. Desde Chile, y a mis 73 años, te saluda Miguel.
Thanks for your comments. I had not been aware of that particular Billy Murray site.
Nice Vic III. I am a Billy Murray fan for sure. I have probably at least 50 of his discs and cylinders.
Billy Murray had a special voice . Was very alike to the soun technic of those times. This
record is rellu a treasure for our ears. Dont you think that the invention of the Gramophone is someting magic and wonderful.Thanks I enjoyed it.
Fascinating! 🖖
How beautiful!!!
My favorite victor model, looks and sounds beautiful!
@christo930 If the sound box (the phonograph part that actually plays the record) is in good condition or has been rebuilt then the records will produce excellent volume. And would or should be easily heard depending on the size of the party of course. There is nothing that will remove the noise on early 78's, in general. The finest condition records will sound best.
beautiful!
@Moooperator Thanks for the great comments, Moo! Always great to hear from a fellow phonograph collector! Stop in for a visit again anytime.
I think it is a bit slow. Give her a few more RPM.
I have the sheet music for this song.....Glad to hear it with vocal and orchestra
What phonograph needles are you using? I just ran out of my original Victor needles and have been looking for the best modern produced needles I can get. The last modern ones I got looked more like poorly sharpened pencils rather than phonograph needles, the points were not at a consistent taper and they had rough edges. I tested them on a junk record and found that they destroyed the grooves; thankfully I did not try them on a good record.
This song makes me want to to listen to my Victrola. This song was sorta like it was advertised for the Victor Victrola according to the song what he just sang. It can also played on any record player which is my GE Wildcat which was a portable, and it was not a Victrola since it was made in the 1970's.
I love this song .Even have the sheet Music.
I wish I knew where to find Billy Murray 78s. My local record shop has a ton of 78s but I have had no luck finding songs like this. I have found a few on the thick Edison Diamond records, but those don't play on my turntable.
Billy Murray recorded skads of sides for Victor and Edison and was very popular until electric recordings came along in 1925.
Billy Murray I love his music to be honest even though I’m...19 years old lol battlefield 1 music!
@JennelleBelle Thanks for the great comments! Sounds like a nice plan for the apartment. This is a truly enjoyable hobby that gives something back immediately in return for your investment when you can listen to the sounds from another time and virtually step back in time for a while.
Fantastic!
@CerebralStasis You're welcome! Thanks for stopping in and for the comments.
Beautiful workmanship. Don't make em like that in the U.S.A. , thanks for sharing.
@vrobbie53 You are very welcome. Thanks for the comments!
This would play by itself in the middle of the night, no thanks.
i need this now
SHOUTOUT TO BILLY MURRAY
wow it's lovely.
@Nacamahunt Auctions sometimes offer phonographs for sale. Thanks for your comments.
@cowtippingrocks Thanks for the nice comments!
Horn looks like a perfect wood grain match to the Victor III case!
wow thats awesome. i love the machine too. Wooden horn machines are hard to find :D
The early ones such as this are indeed very fragile.
omg i want one of these so badly!!!!! im trying to do my apartment in classic 20-40's style and this would be the perfect piece for my living room, right next to the beaded curatins:) id rather listen to records than the ipod or cd's...the raspy scratchiness adds to quality:)
O.K., fair enough. I hope I didn't come off as being too critical, I was just making an observation. As I said, I really enjoyed the song. I have listened to many of the other records you've posted on You Tube, & enjoy them very much. I'm glad that there are others who appreciate the old songs, as I do.
I look forward to seeing more of your videos in the future. As I mentioned before, that really is a beautiful Victor. My only external horn machine is a 1905 Edison Standard.
Have a good day.
Very cool!
@nowashburn No. Modern vinyl records would be quickly ruined by the steel needle and heavy reproducer (or sound box). Thanks for your comment.
Bravo !
@MusicBoxBoy What is it made out of? They didn't have vinyl back then, did they?
I looked at the inflation calculator and $.75 had the same purchasing power as 16.20, which is actually low since they started understating inflation starting in the 70's and getting even worse in the 90s.
Primarily I use original, unused store stock Victor Talking Machine needles that I was fortunate to purchase years ago. But, I have also used needles from a couple of phonograph part suppliers that function just as well. If you want their contact names send me a personal message and I will respond to you that way rather than here.
If they had rough edges, just feel free to use sand paper: I did that also to re-sharp used needles. Just be careful and make sure you sharp then correctly
@lkevins1 Me too! Thanks for the comments.
@MusicBoxBoy Thanks. These things are really neat, maybe one day I'll get one. They can play any 78 record, right? Even the ones made in the 50's or do you have to have specific vicrtrola branded records?
The old mechanical phonographs can’t play modern vinyl records. The spring motors spin at ~78rpm, most cant slow down to 33 1/3. In addition to speed, the heavy reproducer and steel needle would strip the soft vinyl groove of its music. The old records were made mostly of shellac, much harder than vinyl intended for light electric tonearms.
Makers and artists all dead now. A voice from the past.
@MrXnews That's very interesting. I would like to hear that. I'd be interested to know who the composer of that was. Thanks for sharing.
Where can I get one of those
Was this song a promotion for Victor victrola?
Now, this isn't something I would do. And I prefer the older songs, anyway. But, if someone was really curious...
I once saw a Victrola in an antique store, where they only had 45's to demonstrate it with. So, at least some, could apparently be slowed down that much. With a Victrola, you only have the weight of the reproducer, as opposed to a front mounted Victor, with the weight of the tone arm & horn. And it wouldn't hurt to get a 1950's "set screw" microgroove needle, instead of a steel one.
I see you have a great collection of victrola's and Grandma phone, I personally 8- victrola, s
@zeb1912 i've seen them used in the 30's. like in the movie color purple...its was 1935 when they were listening to the victrola in the bedroom.
anyway, that whole era was great and i want it.
Wait....what exactly does he like to do to her when she's out of breath? F?
This makes me feel like I'm playing Fallout. Only certain people will understand this reference. Lol
Yess
Am I the only one who notices how much this sounds so Identical the Tom and jerry theme song?
Nice quarter saw oak. I have the M but it isn't as nice as this 3.
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nice phonograph and oak horn.
that guy can sing. they had to do it all in one take back then, no do-overs. he was perfect.
forgive me for not having and knowledge of records in general, but can these antique machines play more modern vinyl records?
Just got one and records from that period. Haven't even examined it yet I didn't see a needle but it might be inside.
How loud are these? Would you be able to hear them in a party with the usual noises in a party? Is there any oil or something you can put on the records (like you can with vinyl records) to cut the hiss?
Man, this song is sad af. I get he wants her all for himself, but damn, a victrola isn't a replacement for a party!