Tegan's departure is among the best because of how simple yet devastatingly blunt her reasons are. No falling in love, no helping out an alien society, she's just had enough of the death and destruction, and the Daleks' bloodbath was the last straw. It's bleak but very powerful. That ending and The Doctor's tense faceoff with Davros are two major high points from this story.
I love Tegan’s departure, it’s probably one of the most realistic exits for a companion. Tegan experienced so much death over her run, I’m not surprised it stopped being fun for her.
Indeed, and let's not forget that she got involved with the Doctor (Four) by accident, she didn't initially choose to travel with him. Which gives credence to her wanting to stay on earth at this point.
@@stickytapenrust6869 [(MILD) SPOILER WARNING] So, you think she'd have quit 3 stories later...? ... ... I guess it depends how she feels about slugs... =;o} (Or really terrible scripts!)
@ Yeah, 3 or 4 serials later. I think her patience was obviously just starting to wear thin in The Awakening what with all that going on with her uncle. And had this one not killed an army’s worth of guest cast, she may have had a bit more patience left to last a few more adventures. This one just exhausted it all in one go. (And TBH, who can blame her! Just being a character in this one alone would result in most people going through it being sectioned!)
I watched Five on New Jersey public television, which used to show "Whovies" in the '80s. (We got to see "The Five Doctors" before the Brits, so we knew Five was coming.) A teen back then, I thought he was weak (y'see, in America back then, #TomBaker was our *first and only* Doctor) but now I see he's just a vulnerable bloke. :) Which is interesting :)
@@IsiahBradley It was a deliberate choice to make the Fifth Doctor vulnerable and flawed - really what else could they have done? By the end of Tom's run the Doctor was too large, too dominant, essentially over-powered. The problem is that we do all too easily - as you acknowledge you did - conflate vulnerable / flawed with weak. A bigger problem is that they didn't usually have good enough writers to walk that tightrope. Without getting into spoilers, I'd just argue that at the very end of his run Five proved that however flawed and vulnerable he was, he was far from weak...
@@chrispalmer7893totally agree. I’ve often said Who is at its very best when the Doctor is a bit vulnerable, up against it, out of their depth, overreaching etc, basically not in total control. Five is a great Doctor, hugely underrated by people who wanted another Tom or Pertwee type
HA! =:oD Or it could be, "Wait, could I just run and grab my favourite photo of Nyssa? Oh, and some decent clothes? This skirt's *REALLY* inappropriate for the weather out there". =:o}
@@richwagenerPossibly two. The next one is not exactly bad by any stretch of the imagination. Sesska may laugh at a certain accent of one of the characters, though.
When the Doctor admits he intends to kill Davros and Tegan says it’s murder, you can almost feel a bit of her faith in the goodness of the Doctor dying and although he doesn’t go through with it, her walk out hits him hard. The fact he is left reflecting on why he left Gallifrey is very powerful to me. He’s aware that fighting evil is tainting him. He says he must change his ways but we know he can’t, he will always fight evil. And that’s why it’s my favourite story. Vey haunting and very dark.
This is one of the most simple yet effective companion exists ever. Just let the episode unfold and the companion decides they have had enough. No build up or hints just the drama unfolding. Slight spoiler but this is the beginning of one of my favourite Dalek arcs ever. More stories should follow that concept in the future. Stein was such a good character with a great sendoff. I love stories where pretty much every side character dies. It makes for a dark story. Again we need more stories like that.
Factoid: The Dalek Supreme was voiced by Brian Miller - the husband of Elizabeth Sladen (He's been the previous season story Snakedance as the owner of the Hall of Mirrors)
Agree so much with your feelings. I love Eric Saward’s mature complex adult stories that are bleak and shades of grey. V gritty. Enjoying your reactions, as I’ve enjoyed all of your reactions, but especially with Five and Tegan and this era, which is much maligned by fandom. This was my young adult Who growing up and I adore it. So I’m thrilled you get it as you do. Tegan rocks. I think she’s probably the most accurate depiction of someone pulled into that world and not a one note companion. Adore her. A lot of fans don’t get the bigger and more truthful picture.
I'm glad to see someone who really appreciates the 5th Doctor. I think he may just be the most underrated Doctor. He's not a controversial incarnation or anything, he wasn't disliked, but he's very often overlooked and underappreciated. Like, you won't see him in many people's top 5.
I think following on from Tom Baker is one of the reasons he is underrated. Tom was in the role for so long it was strange for people to get used to another Doctor.
Fandom at large has historically been very neglectful of the Fifth Doctor and his era in general I think. As you say there's very little outright dislike and there's obviously some well-regarded stories but attention always seems to be elsewhere and it's a shame because there's so, so much interesting material there. I think that's starting to change these days (Big Finish doing amazing work with the 5DAs, channels like this, younger fans in dwtwt love it), but it's been frustrating for a long time.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think Peter was the first "modern" Doctor. What I mean by that is that his approach to the role is closer to how the NuWho Doctors have played the role than most of the classic era Doctors who were to some extent playing exaggerated versions of themselves. He's "my" Doctor because he came in just as I became properly aware of the show, but I'd like to think he'd always have been a favourite. He showed us that the Doctor might be an alien, but he's in some ways more human than any of us.
To this point in 5's run, it's worth noting how the companions involved with him _haven't_ had the generally better time of things that most prior companions had: Adric died, Nyssa let off for the presumed rest of her life to help seriously ill people on (setting aside the audio stories that mitigate that -- only going with televised stories), and now Tegan leaving on the verge of a nervous breakdown (and justifiably so). This was, in that regard, a dark era for DW companions... but that also leant a degree of emotion/credibility to things that didn't often exist up to this point, either.
Folks have pointed out that Genesis can be considered the first battle of the Time War, with the Time Lords essentially declaring war on the Daleks by dispatching the Doctor to avert their creation. In that case Resurrection shows the next stage of the war with the Daleks looking to strike back at the Time Lords directly. Hence also why it's such a brutal story, it's literally as Davros says, a universal war.
There are a few classic stories that show events that could have eventually led to the Time War - Genesis, Resurrection, Remembrance. The Time War was inevitable when looking at those stories.
I think there's a theory that the random, pointlessly cruel killing of the guy with the metal detector was the straw that broke the camel's back in a way, for Tegan
It came straight after the killing of her new friend, Prof. Laird. And then she was witness to the bloodbath (not that there's any actual blood!) in the warehouse, right outside the TARDIS. And she'd already figured out that the real Colonel Archer - a rare instance in DW of a military guy who listened to reason - and his team were all dead. Now add in whatever she heard in the TARDIS about Turlough's adventures and discoveries on the prison ship...
Five and Six are my favorite Doctors, Five is my #1, so I'm so glad you love him too. Peter was so good at being funny, sarcastic, serious, comical, vulnerable...all in the same serial. Severely underrated Doctor.
Colin was actually my FIRST classic Doctor, which might have something to do with it. But I do really love him. And Big Finish helped me love him more.
I would say best big finish doctor, but he wasn't a favourite in classic who. I won't say anymore as I don't want to spoil anything. Big Finish did write him a lot better, though. There are no wrong choices as all about personal preference. I actually quite liked the 7th Doctor myself.
Aw, that reaction when K9 and Barbara appeared in the little flashback part. I really love how ruthless the Daleks are in this story. Practically everyone dies. I'd heard before about the BBC's complains that the writer of this episode, Eric Saward, made his episodes too violent but I wouldn't have it any other way for this one. It's a war and they don't hesitate to kill off characters we've grown to like. It gets across how brutal the Daleks can be. It's probably my second-favourite Dalek story (after "Genesis of the Daleks").
I think this story’s incredible. Great stakes, great characters, cool sets, insanely rich atmosphere and very memorable moments. Then they give us one of the best companion departures to end the story with. Think it’s brilliant.
Considering what she's witnessed and had to contend with was only a matter of time before she reached the end of her tether and says 'that's it, I've had enough'
This story was originally planned to close out the previous season, until industrial action forced the recording dates to be filled with finishing "Terminus". "Resurrection of the Daleks" was called "Warhead" at that point, and although the plot remained pretty much the same, Kamelion played a large role which led to the duplication aspect of the story. I do remember watching this tale for the first time and feeling shocked over how relentlessly grim it turned out to be. Up until that point, our PBS never aired the surviving William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton serials, and I became incredibly excited seeing the brief clips during The Doctor's memory drain sequence. It's a shame Leela was omitted! Tegan's exit is reminiscent of Victoria's, as she too was sick of all the death and disaster happening wherever and whenever the TARDIS brought them. It's incredibly well done, although I do wish Tegan had been afforded more to do in her last story. Janet Fielding worked herself up for the goodbye scene by kicking boxes in the studio much to the concern of the production team!
Rula Lenska used to live in my town that I grew up in back in the day. Would bump into her at my local Safeways and she was the loveliest woman you could possibly meet. She’s really great in this story.
When I first had Resurrection on dvd it was the four part version of the story. Cliffhanger for part one was with the Dalek materialising in the warehouse, and part three’s cliffhanger was Davros giving another mad loud rant. And so we wave goodbye to Tegan. After her time in the Tardis, this story pushed her over the edge. For which i believe, this is the story with the highest body count than any other story.
Happy new year and what a classic 5th doctors stories goodbye tegan it was a surprise departure as she had been in the series since five began i always preferred nyssa but her departure was a blow her "it's stop been fun doctor" was rememberable ie reference in the last 13th doctor story were she met her doctor again. This is in my top 3 5th doctor stories.
The first time I watched this was the first time it aired on WTTW in Chicago. We were so excited for a Dalek story. Then, in the 2nd half, there were sound effects and other sound elements missing from the soundtrack. It wasn't until a bit later that I saw/heard it as intended.
@pcwkid76 When I first started watching Doctor Who, WTTW was showing it weekdays at around 4:30pm in the serial format. It then moved to 10pm weekdays, which I thought was great counter programming to the news. Then I remember one evening Marty Robinson announcing it was moving to 11 on Sunday nights. All of my old VHS recordings were in the omnibus format. I absolutely hated that because it ruined the pacing of the show. Doctor Who was paced like it was to remind viewers of key plot points from the week before. Also, as a movie serial fan, it ruined the impact of the cliffhangers.
When I first seen The Brian of Morbius on my local PBS station, it was missing both music and sound effects from Part One, with the exception of the opening and closing theme music. It wasn't until I bought the DVD many years later that I heard the episode properly. However, I think I like the episode better without the music, it made it creepier for me, and it is more reminiscent of the original Frankenstein movie which is perfect considering Morbius was a Frankenstein-like story.
Resurrection of the Daleks was a fairly flimsy story, but Tegan's departure is still one of the most powerful in the show's history. The Fifth Doctor needed Tegan because she was the only one who would call him out on his nonsense and whenever he behaved poorly, so her departure clearly affects him and effectively spelled the end of the chemistry needed to maintain him as the Doctor.
Another cracking 5th Doctor story. It's very dark and like you say Jess the Daleks are a real threat. I was sad to see Tegan leave but I think it's a good departure. She goes on her own terms after seeing so much death and can't take it any more. I think most of us would feel like that too!! Great reaction Jess. I laughed out loud when you said " Doctor, be careful of the bubble wrap!" 😂😂😂
I agree, and it was great that Tegan got to make peace with the Doctor. It would definitely have had a bigger emotional impact if she had seen 5 and Tegan before watching it.
What Tegan says is also the sentiment of Janet; she really wanted to distance herself from Doctor Who at one point; eventually, she was brought back on board for the audios (and then tv appearances). She found the audios more fan than she expected. Fun. It's what she wants.
Yeah Big Finish really got the perfect balance of turning Tegan's "complaining" into actual, proper banter, much like the kind that Janet and Peter actually have in real life, even
Janet retired from acting and became an agent - she didn't want to act whilst doing it because she felt it'd be a conflict of interest but eventually she came back in the audios (and TV) because it was already her role - she wasn't taking jobs from any potential clients. In a twist of fate, she'd play off Sylvester McCoy in his audition and was Paul McGann's agent when he became the Doctor.
@@hornorsilk2901 I remember it being a huge deal when BF finally got her to do one. It's subsequently been eclipsed by the shockwaves when Tom finally came on board, of course, but it was a nice moment.
@@chrispalmer7893 right, I remember both, but really, her coming back after the one still was a nice surprise at the time. Then Christopher when he came back was the biggest of the surprises to date.
I’ve loved Teagan from her very first appearance to this departure. I met Janet Fielding at a convention, and she was delightful and funny, rocking a classic frock coat.
Resurrection of the Daleks had a higher kill count than The Terminator, just to put into perspective how dark this story is. Eric Saward always has dark stories, with the exception of his first story, The Visitation. But from Earthshock onwards, all of his stories are dark ones. And what about the Peter Davison era as a whole. It doesn't seem like it, but if you actually think about it, his era was just as dark as the early Tom Baker era and Colin Baker era. Stories like Kinda, Earthshock, Snakedance, Terminus, Warriors of the Deep, Resurrection of the Daleks, and his finale are the best examples of this. And what about his companies - Adric died, Nyssa had her planet and people destroyed with her father killed and his body taken over by the Master (they should've explored her trauma from that, but they never did in the show apart from a small moment in Logopolis) and then she contracts a deadly disease and stays on Terminus, Tegan has her aunt killed, gets uprooted from her home to a mysterious planet with people she doesn't even know, gets possessed by the Mara not once but twice, and as for Turlough, he's exiled to a planet he doesn't like, gets under the influence of the Black Guardian who tries to force him to commit cold-blooded murder, and then after all that, his final story. The Peter Davison era is a lot bleeker than people give it credit for.
Dalek duplicates would explain a lot about our politicians over the years 😉😂. If you remember, Dalek duplicates were actually introduced way back in the 1st Doctor story "The Chase", when the Daleks succeeded in creating a duplicate of the Doctor. The duplicate 1st Doctor didn't last long, but he was there.
This story was extremely controversial when it came out. They caught a lot of criticism because of how violent the story was. It was considered way too violent. Literally, everyone, except the main cast and Lytton, dies in the story. Also, as you noted, even The Doctor picks up a gun to do violence, which is unheard of. Then Tegan's departure, being unable to deal with the reality of what happened, is heartbreaking.
Bearing in mind, the 5th Doctor was considered the nice or boring Doctor, it's surprising how often he picks up and uses guns, especially compared to his previous incarnations. I remember him killing and shooting cybermen in Earthshock as well.
@cooluncle4242 Yea, but fighting and killing Cybermen is different than directly deciding to pick up a weapon and coldly murder Davros. I think of him and Matt Smith/11th Doctor in the same vein. They look young and play the part reserved, but behind that facade is something ancient and hidden.
Always thought it was funny that Colin Baker's doctor got criticsized for violence and shooting a Cyberman. I've always been like "did you even watch the previous Doctor?".
@@jerobriggs6861 I think that's partly because Peter's Doctor seemed to much more obviously regret the necessity of picking up the gun. With Colin they sometimes gave him James Bond-style quips after a killing (not Colin's fault, of course)
Tegan does have one of the most understandable and realistic exits for a companion (especially for classic who), 5 does reunite with her some years after this in the audio The Gathering which is excellent and I highly recommend. I also wish there was more of a goodbye at the end, classic who does do very quick goodbyes a lot of the time which is a shame.
Much like Freema Ageyman, Janet Fielding was not given the credit she deserved for her portrayal of Tegan, at least at the time. To be fair, Tegan was a bit, erm, difficult to begin with, though some would say she had a reason to be so acerbic. What sold me was finding out that she was working behind the scenes to change the BBC. During the story Four to Doomsday, Janet made sure that the Aborigines in the story were given lines of real native Australian dialect, rather than the gibberish that was originally scripted. That Tegan was said by Sarah Jane to be fighting for Aborigine rights at the end of season four of the SJA was just the icing on the cake.
@@papalaz4444244 Not the impression I got, but to be honest there were very few Dr Who fans where I lived and schooled when Five's episodes were first shown here in Australia. Maybe it was just the few people who would talk to me about it who didn't like her.
Tegan is one of my favorite companions. I always felt i wouldn't be the best companion. I would be like, "Can I please just go back to the Tardis." Another reason I liked her is surrounded by really smart ppl the same has me ppl in my family was a rocket scientist and my sister was a math major and then there was me who struggled with Math.
I’m currently rewatching all of Classic Doctor Who and I’m like 2/3 of the way through Season 2 in the Hartnell era. I’ve got a very long journey still. But I bet “Resurrection Of The Daleks” will be an absolute chaotic story in book form when I read the novelization (got it for Christmas btw).
Tegan was the first to see what the Doctor was becoming. She saw the Oncoming Storm and called him on it. Of all the companions, she was the Doctor's conscience.
I never read it like that, Tegan became a companion by accident. She saw Adric die, and then all the deaths, especially in this story, became too much. I think it's one of the better companion exits as it was just someone saying that's enough.
Up to and including this story, a different actor has played Davros for each appearance of the character. However the next new actor to play him isn't until the reboot which you've already seen.
...And while this isn't a *great* start (mainly because the script gives him too many rants and no real "character" moments), Terry really takes to the role and makes Davros his own! =:o}
I'm a big Tegan fan, and I hated seeing her go back in the 80s - especially since I wasn't a big fan of Turlough. Peter Davison is my favorite classic Doctor, his run with Adric, Nyssa and Tegan was the first time I really got into the show. I'd tried before with Tom Baker several times, but never got into it. I appreciate his run more now.
for what's it worth, Tegan is one of my favorite companions. Right up there with Sarah Jane Smith. A lot of people put them at their top companions. I do have another one that you will meet later. so no spoilers. not my favorite dalek story (again that's still to come).
Janet Fielding and Peter Davison are two of the most underappreciated performers by too many.... just both perfect in their roles playing a very different Doctor and Companion than anything the show had presented before-and work brilliantly by this Doctor and Tegan having fundamentally different character aspects the other may lack. Would have loved to see Tegan appear during the 10/Donna era... and love Donna as someone carrying on the torch of not putting up with the Doctor's nonsense!!!! Aware you're a bit ahead on Patreon-so will have already witnessed who the next companion is.... but will save my joy of her relationship with the 5th Doctor (which is mainly retroactive courtesy of Big Finish Audios) until you become more aware of her
I met Peter Davison at a convention some years ago. A friend of mine was with us and he asked Peter to sign a poster for his sister with "Brave heart" and I saw him have a very human moment when he realised that was probably because she was ill (she was - cancer - now over a decade in remission but freshly diagnosed at the time). In that one moment I saw the real compassion of the man, but also an understandable undercurrent of "I hate it when this happens....". He brightened up a bit when he spoke to me. I told him I used to get in trouble at school because I liked to keep my coat open and have my hands in my trouser pockets so I could pretend I was the Fifth Doctor. He told me a lovely story about having recently seen an old TV show he did when he was very young. He'd found it a painful watch because the character was wearing trousers with no pockets and all Peter could see of his performance that he had no idea what to do with his hands. He later did a Q and A where he told a very funny story about how when the first episode of All Creatures Great and Small aired he spent ages walking up and down his local High Street hoping someone would recognise him. Genuinely lovely man.
I'm surprised you took to this story because this one is pretty polarizing among the fandom. Some people don't like how dark this story gets, and find the massive body count off-putting. I get those complaints, but at the same time like you pointed out in part one it is a dramatic story, and the performances help a lot to see that side of it. And I never thought of this before but Peter Davison is indeed very good at handling the darker stuff.
Tegan's departure is still the one that breaks my heart the most, even more than Adric's death. So often the departure of a companion is 'flagged' earlier in the story but there was no previous hint of Tegan going, so the Doctor is blindsided and so are we. Totally understandable, surprising some companions don't end up with PTSD given everything they see and go through on their TARDIS travels.
Zina was such an underrated character. She was the last to fall in the self-destruct chamber, and the Dalek troopers needed two different angles to finally get her. And Tegan's exit is not only touching but also realistic. I would want to leave as well...
I'm watching this a day later to avoid the heartache of seeing Tegan leave again. On the other hand, I do love she storms out the TARDIS the same way she rushed in. I used to worry that she was in the wrong time period and didn't have any money or I.D., how would she make out? As much as I love other companions, she hits me differently. Oh, great story too, The Time War!!
I do think Seska the way Lytton survived been killed by the Daleks, and went back to pretending to be a police officer was awesome and also the Dr could not kill Davros no matter how much he would like to have done so.
My head canon about it is that his mixed feelings over that moment of indecision/mercy and its consequences, and the sense of personal responsibility that comes from Tegan's words, and thinking about the fact that he has become a magnet for half the villains in the galaxy to, are what lead to things like ... [SPOILER WARNINGS] ... ... (1) him standing and watching an enemy die in flames, without attempting to help them; (2) his near-psychosis following his next regeneration; and eventually (3) everything that happens in "Remembrance of the Daleks" (but only after he's "wasted" a whole incarnation avoiding the issue, and just putting up a front of brusqueness and self-centredness).
Tegan is up there with the best departures. Another story that adds depth to the just thins once, everyone lives quote. For the memoires of past companions and regenerations Leela is missing, an oversight. In my head canon it is The Doctor blocking her so the clone would be imperfect and it would give The Time Lords pause. More proof that Davros surviving is the worst thing for the Daleks.
This is a bit like Earthshock but with Daleks instead of Cybermen - the discovery of objects on Earth, the main events taking place in space, plans for Earths destruction and the unexpected loss of a companion at the end.
I find some of the New Who goodbyes terribly drawn out and overwrought. I remember some people at one of the Doctor's final stories (as they dragged it out over companion after companion after companion being said goodbye to in ever more maudlin and lachrymose scenes) groaning "oh, go already!"
When I first saw this Dalek serial, I was aged 15 and I later got it on vhs and now dvd and it is one story I seldom watch and the body count is very high and Davros was to be killed off and replaced with the Dalek Emperor seen in the 60s TV comic Century 21 which did not feature the Dr, his comapnions or his TARDIS. The supreme leader of the Daleks, was a gold Emperor Dalek who was short in stature and squat shaped like Davros and the deputy was the black Dalek Supreme. I also liked the flashback sequence, even though Leela was missed out and also the scene with Davros and the Doctor was weird because we the Dr Who fans knew the Doctor could not when pointing a gun at Davros go through with killing the evil Dalek creator. The black Dalek Supreme with white, spheres in this story, was awesome and when he appeared on the TARDIS scanner telling the Doctor and co he had not won was funny. I think at that point the Black Dalek, was in the time corridor and not on the Dalek ship which got blown up .
Resurrection is absolutely crackling with ideas and plot lines but I feel like Saward then struggled with how to neatly tie the plot threads together. Also the studio direction just seems a little lacklustre in comparison to the location shoots (which brilliantly depicts just how much of a run-down shithole the East End docks were at the time). Matthew Robinson (director) and Eric Saward (writer/script editor) would both do much better on their next serials. Eric Saward also did the next Dalek story and that capitalised on the failures of this one. There are still loads of plot threads running through it but not so many that things are still left unresolved and the direction (with a different director, though) is much moodier and the style seems to match both on location and studio scenes.
@@jerobriggs6861 I think it's a great shame that Saward never got to create and run the show about mercenaries that he was constantly trying to turn Doctor Who into...
Interesting fact, this story had more on screen deaths than the original Terminator film, a fact that did not go unnoticed and received a great deal of complaints the majority of which concerned the characters dressed in (at the time) current Police uniforms and sporting very realistic looking weapons (sci-fi "ray" guns normally get a pass as they're obviously fake)
Well, Martha had a family that needed her just as much as she needed them. That’s why she stayed. Tegan didn’t have that emotional bond keeping her on Earth, unless she was going to see her cousin again! 🤣
Martha leaving was more to do with her feelings for the Doctor as well as looking after her family. They are comparable in the fact they had witnessed a lot of death, especially in their final stories.
"Brave Heart Tegan"...Until the next time... We don't see tegan again till Power of the Doctor...But we do hear her in MANY of the BF Audios..along with Nyssa, Adric, Turlough and the Doctor!
Seeing Tegan in 'Power of the Doctor' was just as discombobulating for me as it must have been for a slightly older generation being reunited with Sarah-Jane in 'School Reunion'. It's a bit like meeting up with a family member after a long time. And I mention this because that's precisely what happened over the Christmas period; seeing a nephew I once bounced on my knee with his wife and kids. And, as with Sarah's departure, this marked the final break with the previous Doctor. Whoever came next would have to look and sound a bit different....
It's interesting how these occasional philosophical discussions between the Doctor and Davros always seem to come out with the latter on top. It's a dog eat dog universe. The problem is, some dogs are deliberately bred for fighting.
Exciting again although part 2 is like an extended shooting range (it becomes confusing who wants to kill who) and throws ideas at you which are never developed whilst Styles takes half an episode to set the self destruct and Stein takes half an episode to be wired into the archive clip-draining machine. But Tegan's departure is superb and arguably Eric Saward's finest hour. Frankly Tegan has been ignored, sidelined, patronised, mocked and ungraciously tolerated by the Doctor from day one. Davision's portrayal even hints he doesn't even like her that much (the end of Arc of Infinity). Duly he is so wrapped up in this adventure he fails to see the fatal blow the carnage delivers to Tegan's morale. She's rightly appalled by what her life now consists of ('It's stopped being fun Doctor'). The Doctor is genuinely mortified by her reaction but is far too late to do anything about it ('No don't leave not like this!') Tragic, real and a million miles from the cosiness of Who today. Janet Fielding's successor sat in on the studio recordings for that scene and felt it was not dramatic enough. I disagree. It was perfect. Reactionary and very Tegan and the the ultimate pay-off consequence of all the violence
I would love to watch a video about how you feel about Tegan returning in the Power of the Doctor, now you have gotten to know her and how she interacted with Jodie and Peters Doctor.
When Twitch (of all platforms) chose to run a Dr Who marathon a few years back - attracting fans, cynics and the merely curious along the way - one person in the chat spent the whole of 'Resurrection...' totting up how many people get killed. It's long been a statistic lazily thrown around that this story has a higher body count than 'The Terminator' (which wasn't even released until that October), but there's an awfully large number of people being shot or blown up or strangled or disfigured in this one. It might have been an attempt to look 'adult' or 'cool' or 'hard' in order to win back an increasingly disaffected young audience, but the times they were a-changin'....
I have issues with the story with it feeling quite messy. The point about there being a lot going on is valid as the daleks would probably win if they focused on one plot rather than at least two. That said, it's fairly well made and nice casting. Tegan's departure is maybe sudden but it feels right. No random falling in love for her, thankfully.
Maybe Tegan's departure would have felt more natural if Resurrection of the Daleks was preceded by Warriors of the Deep (another particularly bleak serial where almost everyone dies). At the end of Warriors of the Deep, Tegan and Turlough are desperately trying to keep at least one or two Silurians alive with oxygen, but their efforts are to no avail. You can feel Turlough was just as despondent and frustrated as Tegan, but there's a difference - Turlough was expelled and has no home to go back to. Tegan has a home to go back to.
The OTT death throes of the duplicate Archer and Calder is one of the most unintentionally entertaining moments of the episodes. In the book Archer says sadly 'It seems we die with dignity'. I'm sure that is Eric Saward having a pop at the overacting on the TV version
Either she was in a bit where the camera cut away, or the common fan theory applied that the Doctor deliberately blocked her from the transferred memories so his duplicate would arouse suspicion on reaching Gallifrey by not recognising Leela who lives there. K-9 mark I was also missing...
Glad you enjoyed it, Jess, though as I said last week, I still think it’s one of the worst Dalek stories ever. The most ludicrous part of the script is having the Daleks wanting the Doctor and his companions duplicated and returned to Gallifrey to kill the High Council! Why? With all that was going on at the time, you would have thought the Daleks had had enough to contend with, what with dealing with a virus that was killing them, as well as dealing with opposition Daleks who wanted them dead! Better just to put that idea on the back burner for awhile and concentrate on the matter that was currently facing them. Of course Saward never explains why the Daleks want the duplicate Doctor and his companions to kill the High Council, so I guess it’s ok if they just do! It’s as if Saward came up with the duplicate story just so JNT could show a companion flashback! And how the hell did the production team miss Leela off the flashback sequence? One thing I really hated (probably above everything else I disliked) was the Doctor being prepared to willingly kill Davros. We all know the Doctor only kills in self defence, or if his companions or others with him are in mortal danger, but this to me was way out of character for the Doctor, and in particular for five himself, to be prepared to kill someone in such a cold bloodied fashion as this. Sorry, but it just didn’t sit right with me. I also never understood why all this death and destruction was the catalyst for Tegan to leave the Doctor! She lost her Aunt to the Master in her first story, saw her companion Adric blown up in Earthshock (another high body count story written by Saward) and was witness to a human massacre in Warriors of the Deep! Oh, and she was twice possessed by the Mara - and it’s only now that she wants to leave? I thought her comment to the Doctor, “It’s stopped being fun,” was a ridiculous reason to leave him (based on what she’d seen in the previous stories I’ve mentioned), and I think Saward and JNT hadn’t really thought of a suitable reason for Tegan to leave, especially as this story was meant to close season 20, and Tegan would still have been a companion going into “The Five Doctors.” Now, because this story was held back to the next season (season 21), it was time for Tegan to leave so Saward had to tack on her departure at the end of one of the stories, and chose his own script to give her a ridiculous reason for her to go. IMO it was a poor way to write her out! In the years following Resurrection’s original transmission, Eric Saward has openly criticised the story, blaming himself for delivering scripts which he felt were under par and did the Daleks a disservice. I would wholeheartedly agree with him on those observations. Saward did redeem himself the following season by following up this hopeless mess with the sublime and brilliant Revelation of the Daleks. So in that respect for Saward, there was a decent ‘resurrection’ of sorts for him!
Tegan's departure is among the best because of how simple yet devastatingly blunt her reasons are. No falling in love, no helping out an alien society, she's just had enough of the death and destruction, and the Daleks' bloodbath was the last straw. It's bleak but very powerful. That ending and The Doctor's tense faceoff with Davros are two major high points from this story.
Yeah I agree and not killing her off as well. 😂
I love Tegan’s departure, it’s probably one of the most realistic exits for a companion. Tegan experienced so much death over her run, I’m not surprised it stopped being fun for her.
Indeed, and let's not forget that she got involved with the Doctor (Four) by accident, she didn't initially choose to travel with him. Which gives credence to her wanting to stay on earth at this point.
@@Skraboing649I think she might have carried on for only a few more adventures, but there was about four serials’ worth of death in this one.
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So, you think she'd have quit 3 stories later...?
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I guess it depends how she feels about slugs... =;o} (Or really terrible scripts!)
@ Yeah, 3 or 4 serials later. I think her patience was obviously just starting to wear thin in The Awakening what with all that going on with her uncle. And had this one not killed an army’s worth of guest cast, she may have had a bit more patience left to last a few more adventures. This one just exhausted it all in one go.
(And TBH, who can blame her! Just being a character in this one alone would result in most people going through it being sectioned!)
Sort of like Steven in Massacre. Just too much for her. He just came back before The Doctor could lleave
5 used to be the doctor i’d had the least care for, but with this channel ive actually found a new love for him and his storylines.
I watched Five on New Jersey public television, which used to show "Whovies" in the '80s. (We got to see "The Five Doctors" before the Brits, so we knew Five was coming.) A teen back then, I thought he was weak (y'see, in America back then, #TomBaker was our *first and only* Doctor) but now I see he's just a vulnerable bloke. :) Which is interesting :)
@@IsiahBradley It was a deliberate choice to make the Fifth Doctor vulnerable and flawed - really what else could they have done? By the end of Tom's run the Doctor was too large, too dominant, essentially over-powered. The problem is that we do all too easily - as you acknowledge you did - conflate vulnerable / flawed with weak. A bigger problem is that they didn't usually have good enough writers to walk that tightrope. Without getting into spoilers, I'd just argue that at the very end of his run Five proved that however flawed and vulnerable he was, he was far from weak...
@@chrispalmer7893 Yep. Right. TY!
@@chrispalmer7893totally agree. I’ve often said Who is at its very best when the Doctor is a bit vulnerable, up against it, out of their depth, overreaching etc, basically not in total control. Five is a great Doctor, hugely underrated by people who wanted another Tom or Pertwee type
Davison is so underrated.
Tegan coming back momentarily at the end was simply:
"Wait, my keys are in the Tardis!"
Tegan left her tire jack in the TARDIS.😊
HA! =:oD
Or it could be, "Wait, could I just run and grab my favourite photo of Nyssa? Oh, and some decent clothes? This skirt's *REALLY* inappropriate for the weather out there". =:o}
“Brave Heart, Tegan”
I'm making an early prediction. This story will be in your top 5 favourite 5th Doctor stories.
@@GeordieJoe1892 with another huge one on its way...
@@richwagenerPossibly two. The next one is not exactly bad by any stretch of the imagination. Sesska may laugh at a certain accent of one of the characters, though.
@@stickytapenrust6869 And there are British people who complain about Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins! LOL!!
@@scottboswell6406 urgh, don’t get me started on that!
The winds of change are blowing this season and it isn't over yet.
When the Doctor admits he intends to kill Davros and Tegan says it’s murder, you can almost feel a bit of her faith in the goodness of the Doctor dying and although he doesn’t go through with it, her walk out hits him hard. The fact he is left reflecting on why he left Gallifrey is very powerful to me. He’s aware that fighting evil is tainting him. He says he must change his ways but we know he can’t, he will always fight evil. And that’s why it’s my favourite story. Vey haunting and very dark.
The Doctor doing that was the Peter Davison moment that corresponds to Chris Eccleston getting spitting mad when he sees the dalek after the Time War.
This is one of the most simple yet effective companion exists ever. Just let the episode unfold and the companion decides they have had enough. No build up or hints just the drama unfolding.
Slight spoiler but this is the beginning of one of my favourite Dalek arcs ever. More stories should follow that concept in the future.
Stein was such a good character with a great sendoff. I love stories where pretty much every side character dies. It makes for a dark story. Again we need more stories like that.
"I love stories where pretty much every side character dies." - Yeah, you're never gonna get that from Moffat, are you? =;o}
Factoid: The Dalek Supreme was voiced by Brian Miller - the husband of Elizabeth Sladen (He's been the previous season story Snakedance as the owner of the Hall of Mirrors)
Also the Hobo in "Deep Breath"
Agree so much with your feelings. I love Eric Saward’s mature complex adult stories that are bleak and shades of grey. V gritty. Enjoying your reactions, as I’ve enjoyed all of your reactions, but especially with Five and Tegan and this era, which is much maligned by fandom. This was my young adult Who growing up and I adore it. So I’m thrilled you get it as you do. Tegan rocks. I think she’s probably the most accurate depiction of someone pulled into that world and not a one note companion. Adore her. A lot of fans don’t get the bigger and more truthful picture.
I'm glad to see someone who really appreciates the 5th Doctor. I think he may just be the most underrated Doctor. He's not a controversial incarnation or anything, he wasn't disliked, but he's very often overlooked and underappreciated. Like, you won't see him in many people's top 5.
I think following on from Tom Baker is one of the reasons he is underrated. Tom was in the role for so long it was strange for people to get used to another Doctor.
@cooluncle4242 Yeah I think that's definitely a big part of it.
He is one of my favorite Doctors and Tegan is one of my favorite companions.
Fandom at large has historically been very neglectful of the Fifth Doctor and his era in general I think. As you say there's very little outright dislike and there's obviously some well-regarded stories but attention always seems to be elsewhere and it's a shame because there's so, so much interesting material there. I think that's starting to change these days (Big Finish doing amazing work with the 5DAs, channels like this, younger fans in dwtwt love it), but it's been frustrating for a long time.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think Peter was the first "modern" Doctor. What I mean by that is that his approach to the role is closer to how the NuWho Doctors have played the role than most of the classic era Doctors who were to some extent playing exaggerated versions of themselves. He's "my" Doctor because he came in just as I became properly aware of the show, but I'd like to think he'd always have been a favourite. He showed us that the Doctor might be an alien, but he's in some ways more human than any of us.
This story has a higher body count than The Terminator.
Rula Lenska's character is a rare case of a major character who never meets the Doctor 🎩
To this point in 5's run, it's worth noting how the companions involved with him _haven't_ had the generally better time of things that most prior companions had: Adric died, Nyssa let off for the presumed rest of her life to help seriously ill people on (setting aside the audio stories that mitigate that -- only going with televised stories), and now Tegan leaving on the verge of a nervous breakdown (and justifiably so). This was, in that regard, a dark era for DW companions... but that also leant a degree of emotion/credibility to things that didn't often exist up to this point, either.
Folks have pointed out that Genesis can be considered the first battle of the Time War, with the Time Lords essentially declaring war on the Daleks by dispatching the Doctor to avert their creation. In that case Resurrection shows the next stage of the war with the Daleks looking to strike back at the Time Lords directly. Hence also why it's such a brutal story, it's literally as Davros says, a universal war.
There are a few classic stories that show events that could have eventually led to the Time War - Genesis, Resurrection, Remembrance. The Time War was inevitable when looking at those stories.
I think there's a theory that the random, pointlessly cruel killing of the guy with the metal detector was the straw that broke the camel's back in a way, for Tegan
That and Laird, surely?
It came straight after the killing of her new friend, Prof. Laird. And then she was witness to the bloodbath (not that there's any actual blood!) in the warehouse, right outside the TARDIS. And she'd already figured out that the real Colonel Archer - a rare instance in DW of a military guy who listened to reason - and his team were all dead. Now add in whatever she heard in the TARDIS about Turlough's adventures and discoveries on the prison ship...
@@therealpbristow I say Professor Lairds death was savage, and had she survived could she have become a companion in place of Tegan.
Some people say Ace set the precedent for the companions of the modern show, but I’d argue Tegan did it first and this story is a prime example.
I'd argue that every now and then the writers forgot that Peri was incredibly attractive and briefly let her be like that, too.
Just wondering if you ever heard a series called Blakes 7. It is a late 70's-early 80's series that was really good for it's time. I recommend it.
I second that opinion. Jess will love it!
Five and Six are my favorite Doctors, Five is my #1, so I'm so glad you love him too. Peter was so good at being funny, sarcastic, serious, comical, vulnerable...all in the same serial. Severely underrated Doctor.
Colin Baker is an unusual choice as favourite, though he had some good stories before the show descended into utter daftness with the seventh doctor.
Colin was actually my FIRST classic Doctor, which might have something to do with it. But I do really love him. And Big Finish helped me love him more.
I would say best big finish doctor, but he wasn't a favourite in classic who. I won't say anymore as I don't want to spoil anything. Big Finish did write him a lot better, though. There are no wrong choices as all about personal preference. I actually quite liked the 7th Doctor myself.
We lost the last remaining companion from the Fourth Doctor.😢
Aw, that reaction when K9 and Barbara appeared in the little flashback part.
I really love how ruthless the Daleks are in this story. Practically everyone dies. I'd heard before about the BBC's complains that the writer of this episode, Eric Saward, made his episodes too violent but I wouldn't have it any other way for this one. It's a war and they don't hesitate to kill off characters we've grown to like. It gets across how brutal the Daleks can be. It's probably my second-favourite Dalek story (after "Genesis of the Daleks").
I think this story’s incredible. Great stakes, great characters, cool sets, insanely rich atmosphere and very memorable moments.
Then they give us one of the best companion departures to end the story with. Think it’s brilliant.
Considering what she's witnessed and had to contend with was only a matter of time before she reached the end of her tether and says 'that's it, I've had enough'
This story, Earthshock and the finale, the Caves of Androzani are some of the finest Dr Who stories ever. They each pack one hell of a punch!
This story was originally planned to close out the previous season, until industrial action forced the recording dates to be filled with finishing "Terminus". "Resurrection of the Daleks" was called "Warhead" at that point, and although the plot remained pretty much the same, Kamelion played a large role which led to the duplication aspect of the story. I do remember watching this tale for the first time and feeling shocked over how relentlessly grim it turned out to be. Up until that point, our PBS never aired the surviving William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton serials, and I became incredibly excited seeing the brief clips during The Doctor's memory drain sequence. It's a shame Leela was omitted!
Tegan's exit is reminiscent of Victoria's, as she too was sick of all the death and disaster happening wherever and whenever the TARDIS brought them. It's incredibly well done, although I do wish Tegan had been afforded more to do in her last story. Janet Fielding worked herself up for the goodbye scene by kicking boxes in the studio much to the concern of the production team!
Rula Lenska used to live in my town that I grew up in back in the day. Would bump into her at my local Safeways and she was the loveliest woman you could possibly meet. She’s really great in this story.
Last saw her in Inside No. 9.
@ she is a class act :)
When I first had Resurrection on dvd it was the four part version of the story. Cliffhanger for part one was with the Dalek materialising in the warehouse, and part three’s cliffhanger was Davros giving another mad loud rant. And so we wave goodbye to Tegan. After her time in the Tardis, this story pushed her over the edge. For which i believe, this is the story with the highest body count than any other story.
Yes, pretty sure DWM did a story on the biggest death count of classic WHO... at least, on screen deaths. An this took the cake.
55 years ago today, Jon Pertwee premiered as the Third Doctor!
5th doctor is so underrated he's one of my favorite doctors a lot of people say I am like him as personality I'd take that to be fair.
Happy new year and what a classic 5th doctors stories goodbye tegan it was a surprise departure as she had been in the series since five began i always preferred nyssa but her departure was a blow her "it's stop been fun doctor" was rememberable ie reference in the last 13th doctor story were she met her doctor again. This is in my top 3 5th doctor stories.
15:41 that clip of the doctor is used in ‘The magicians apprentice’ when davros plays multiple doctors talking to davros over the years
The first time I watched this was the first time it aired on WTTW in Chicago. We were so excited for a Dalek story. Then, in the 2nd half, there were sound effects and other sound elements missing from the soundtrack. It wasn't until a bit later that I saw/heard it as intended.
I grew up on WTTW Doctor Who. It wasn't until much later that I realized the stories were meant to be serialized.
@pcwkid76 When I first started watching Doctor Who, WTTW was showing it weekdays at around 4:30pm in the serial format. It then moved to 10pm weekdays, which I thought was great counter programming to the news. Then I remember one evening Marty Robinson announcing it was moving to 11 on Sunday nights. All of my old VHS recordings were in the omnibus format. I absolutely hated that because it ruined the pacing of the show. Doctor Who was paced like it was to remind viewers of key plot points from the week before. Also, as a movie serial fan, it ruined the impact of the cliffhangers.
When I first seen The Brian of Morbius on my local PBS station, it was missing both music and sound effects from Part One, with the exception of the opening and closing theme music. It wasn't until I bought the DVD many years later that I heard the episode properly. However, I think I like the episode better without the music, it made it creepier for me, and it is more reminiscent of the original Frankenstein movie which is perfect considering Morbius was a Frankenstein-like story.
tegan was one of my favourite companions
Resurrection of the Daleks was a fairly flimsy story, but Tegan's departure is still one of the most powerful in the show's history. The Fifth Doctor needed Tegan because she was the only one who would call him out on his nonsense and whenever he behaved poorly, so her departure clearly affects him and effectively spelled the end of the chemistry needed to maintain him as the Doctor.
Another cracking 5th Doctor story. It's very dark and like you say Jess the Daleks are a real threat. I was sad to see Tegan leave but I think it's a good departure. She goes on her own terms after seeing so much death and can't take it any more. I think most of us would feel like that too!!
Great reaction Jess. I laughed out loud when you said " Doctor, be careful of the bubble wrap!" 😂😂😂
It's wibbly-wobbly moments like this when revisiting Tegan in the last Jodie Whittaker story can easily pack more of an emotional punch.
I agree, and it was great that Tegan got to make peace with the Doctor. It would definitely have had a bigger emotional impact if she had seen 5 and Tegan before watching it.
What Tegan says is also the sentiment of Janet; she really wanted to distance herself from Doctor Who at one point; eventually, she was brought back on board for the audios (and then tv appearances). She found the audios more fan than she expected. Fun. It's what she wants.
Yeah Big Finish really got the perfect balance of turning Tegan's "complaining" into actual, proper banter, much like the kind that Janet and Peter actually have in real life, even
Janet retired from acting and became an agent - she didn't want to act whilst doing it because she felt it'd be a conflict of interest but eventually she came back in the audios (and TV) because it was already her role - she wasn't taking jobs from any potential clients. In a twist of fate, she'd play off Sylvester McCoy in his audition and was Paul McGann's agent when he became the Doctor.
@@f1since08 she originally said she would do only one audio -- and she had stipulations which explain what happens in it
@@hornorsilk2901 I remember it being a huge deal when BF finally got her to do one. It's subsequently been eclipsed by the shockwaves when Tom finally came on board, of course, but it was a nice moment.
@@chrispalmer7893 right, I remember both, but really, her coming back after the one still was a nice surprise at the time.
Then Christopher when he came back was the biggest of the surprises to date.
I’ve loved Teagan from her very first appearance to this departure. I met Janet Fielding at a convention, and she was delightful and funny, rocking a classic frock coat.
Resurrection of the Daleks had a higher kill count than The Terminator, just to put into perspective how dark this story is. Eric Saward always has dark stories, with the exception of his first story, The Visitation. But from Earthshock onwards, all of his stories are dark ones. And what about the Peter Davison era as a whole. It doesn't seem like it, but if you actually think about it, his era was just as dark as the early Tom Baker era and Colin Baker era. Stories like Kinda, Earthshock, Snakedance, Terminus, Warriors of the Deep, Resurrection of the Daleks, and his finale are the best examples of this. And what about his companies - Adric died, Nyssa had her planet and people destroyed with her father killed and his body taken over by the Master (they should've explored her trauma from that, but they never did in the show apart from a small moment in Logopolis) and then she contracts a deadly disease and stays on Terminus, Tegan has her aunt killed, gets uprooted from her home to a mysterious planet with people she doesn't even know, gets possessed by the Mara not once but twice, and as for Turlough, he's exiled to a planet he doesn't like, gets under the influence of the Black Guardian who tries to force him to commit cold-blooded murder, and then after all that, his final story. The Peter Davison era is a lot bleeker than people give it credit for.
Dalek duplicates would explain a lot about our politicians over the years 😉😂. If you remember, Dalek duplicates were actually introduced way back in the 1st Doctor story "The Chase", when the Daleks succeeded in creating a duplicate of the Doctor. The duplicate 1st Doctor didn't last long, but he was there.
_"Hello, boys. You're just in time for the fun."_
Savage.
This story was extremely controversial when it came out. They caught a lot of criticism because of how violent the story was. It was considered way too violent. Literally, everyone, except the main cast and Lytton, dies in the story. Also, as you noted, even The Doctor picks up a gun to do violence, which is unheard of. Then Tegan's departure, being unable to deal with the reality of what happened, is heartbreaking.
Bearing in mind, the 5th Doctor was considered the nice or boring Doctor, it's surprising how often he picks up and uses guns, especially compared to his previous incarnations. I remember him killing and shooting cybermen in Earthshock as well.
@cooluncle4242 Yea, but fighting and killing Cybermen is different than directly deciding to pick up a weapon and coldly murder Davros. I think of him and Matt Smith/11th Doctor in the same vein. They look young and play the part reserved, but behind that facade is something ancient and hidden.
Always thought it was funny that Colin Baker's doctor got criticsized for violence and shooting a Cyberman. I've always been like "did you even watch the previous Doctor?".
It's like how people complained about the violence in Batman Returns. They apparently never watched the first film.
@@jerobriggs6861 I think that's partly because Peter's Doctor seemed to much more obviously regret the necessity of picking up the gun. With Colin they sometimes gave him James Bond-style quips after a killing (not Colin's fault, of course)
Leslie Grantham who plays Kiston (one of Davros’ agents) is best known for playing soap villain Den Watts (nicknamed “Dirty Den”) in EastEnders.
Sort of makes a reapearence in Army of Ghosts.
You might argue he's "best known" for a couple of other things...
@@chrispalmer7893 Yeah, I know but I’d rather keep the comment section friendly 😅
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he was good friends with louise jameson, apparently!
Idk if you noticed but in that whole montage of all the doctor's companions, they skipped Leela by accident
Tegan does have one of the most understandable and realistic exits for a companion (especially for classic who), 5 does reunite with her some years after this in the audio The Gathering which is excellent and I highly recommend. I also wish there was more of a goodbye at the end, classic who does do very quick goodbyes a lot of the time which is a shame.
Much like Freema Ageyman, Janet Fielding was not given the credit she deserved for her portrayal of Tegan, at least at the time. To be fair, Tegan was a bit, erm, difficult to begin with, though some would say she had a reason to be so acerbic. What sold me was finding out that she was working behind the scenes to change the BBC. During the story Four to Doomsday, Janet made sure that the Aborigines in the story were given lines of real native Australian dialect, rather than the gibberish that was originally scripted. That Tegan was said by Sarah Jane to be fighting for Aborigine rights at the end of season four of the SJA was just the icing on the cake.
But Tegan was massively popular at the time.
@@papalaz4444244 Not the impression I got, but to be honest there were very few Dr Who fans where I lived and schooled when Five's episodes were first shown here in Australia. Maybe it was just the few people who would talk to me about it who didn't like her.
Oh dear, we're here. Time to get the tissues ready for this one.
Tegan is one of my favorite companions. I always felt i wouldn't be the best companion. I would be like, "Can I please just go back to the Tardis." Another reason I liked her is surrounded by really smart ppl the same has me ppl in my family was a rocket scientist and my sister was a math major and then there was me who struggled with Math.
The new series dalek duplicates with the stalk coming out of their foreheads was a follow up to these.
Brave heart Tegan
Now you know why Tegan (and Ace) were brought back for Power of the Doctor.
I’m currently rewatching all of Classic Doctor Who and I’m like 2/3 of the way through Season 2 in the Hartnell era. I’ve got a very long journey still. But I bet “Resurrection Of The Daleks” will be an absolute chaotic story in book form when I read the novelization (got it for Christmas btw).
Thanks
Tegan was the first to see what the Doctor was becoming. She saw the Oncoming Storm and called him on it. Of all the companions, she was the Doctor's conscience.
I never read it like that, Tegan became a companion by accident. She saw Adric die, and then all the deaths, especially in this story, became too much. I think it's one of the better companion exits as it was just someone saying that's enough.
Up to and including this story, a different actor has played Davros for each appearance of the character. However the next new actor to play him isn't until the reboot which you've already seen.
...And while this isn't a *great* start (mainly because the script gives him too many rants and no real "character" moments), Terry really takes to the role and makes Davros his own! =:o}
@@therealpbristow I understand why many people would argue Michael Wisher is the definitive Davros, but it's Malloy for me every time.
I don't know about Tegan, but Janet Field8ng was very nice and a pleasure to know.❤❤❤
“You think you left, and I never thought of you again. I never forget any of you. I remember everything.”
I'm a big Tegan fan, and I hated seeing her go back in the 80s - especially since I wasn't a big fan of Turlough.
Peter Davison is my favorite classic Doctor, his run with Adric, Nyssa and Tegan was the first time I really got into the show. I'd tried before with Tom Baker several times, but never got into it. I appreciate his run more now.
This was an intense story. Part of that is it had the same writer as 'Earthshock', and the viewer is never sure if he'll go there again.
for what's it worth, Tegan is one of my favorite companions. Right up there with Sarah Jane Smith. A lot of people put them at their top companions. I do have another one that you will meet later. so no spoilers. not my favorite dalek story (again that's still to come).
Janet Fielding and Peter Davison are two of the most underappreciated performers by too many.... just both perfect in their roles playing a very different Doctor and Companion than anything the show had presented before-and work brilliantly by this Doctor and Tegan having fundamentally different character aspects the other may lack.
Would have loved to see Tegan appear during the 10/Donna era... and love Donna as someone carrying on the torch of not putting up with the Doctor's nonsense!!!!
Aware you're a bit ahead on Patreon-so will have already witnessed who the next companion is.... but will save my joy of her relationship with the 5th Doctor (which is mainly retroactive courtesy of Big Finish Audios) until you become more aware of her
I met Peter Davison at a convention some years ago. A friend of mine was with us and he asked Peter to sign a poster for his sister with "Brave heart" and I saw him have a very human moment when he realised that was probably because she was ill (she was - cancer - now over a decade in remission but freshly diagnosed at the time). In that one moment I saw the real compassion of the man, but also an understandable undercurrent of "I hate it when this happens....".
He brightened up a bit when he spoke to me. I told him I used to get in trouble at school because I liked to keep my coat open and have my hands in my trouser pockets so I could pretend I was the Fifth Doctor. He told me a lovely story about having recently seen an old TV show he did when he was very young. He'd found it a painful watch because the character was wearing trousers with no pockets and all Peter could see of his performance that he had no idea what to do with his hands. He later did a Q and A where he told a very funny story about how when the first episode of All Creatures Great and Small aired he spent ages walking up and down his local High Street hoping someone would recognise him. Genuinely lovely man.
I'm surprised you took to this story because this one is pretty polarizing among the fandom. Some people don't like how dark this story gets, and find the massive body count off-putting. I get those complaints, but at the same time like you pointed out in part one it is a dramatic story, and the performances help a lot to see that side of it.
And I never thought of this before but Peter Davison is indeed very good at handling the darker stuff.
An "Excellent!" reaction, Jess.
Tegan's departure is still the one that breaks my heart the most, even more than Adric's death. So often the departure of a companion is 'flagged' earlier in the story but there was no previous hint of Tegan going, so the Doctor is blindsided and so are we. Totally understandable, surprising some companions don't end up with PTSD given everything they see and go through on their TARDIS travels.
Fully agree with you that Tegan's a great companion, her exit here is excellent, and the story well suits it rather than it feeling tacked on.
Tsk, that Davros...
Watching this back, I wonder if Mr Burns from The Simpsons owes something to him?
Zina was such an underrated character. She was the last to fall in the self-destruct chamber, and the Dalek troopers needed two different angles to finally get her.
And Tegan's exit is not only touching but also realistic. I would want to leave as well...
I'm watching this a day later to avoid the heartache of seeing Tegan leave again. On the other hand, I do love she storms out the TARDIS the same way she rushed in. I used to worry that she was in the wrong time period and didn't have any money or I.D., how would she make out? As much as I love other companions, she hits me differently. Oh, great story too, The Time War!!
Ooh ooh, white wee wee, ooh, ooh, ooohh!
I've heard that- well, I read it in Doctor Who magazine - that this story has a higher body count than the Hollywood action movies of the day.
Unforgivably, the one missing face on the screen was Leela.
Head canon is that because she's on Gallifrey, the Doctor worked harder to hide her in his mind
@@jimcat6795 Ooh, I like that! =:o}
I do think Seska the way Lytton survived been killed by the Daleks, and went back to pretending to be a police officer was awesome and also the Dr could not kill Davros no matter how much he would like to have done so.
My head canon about it is that his mixed feelings over that moment of indecision/mercy and its consequences, and the sense of personal responsibility that comes from Tegan's words, and thinking about the fact that he has become a magnet for half the villains in the galaxy to, are what lead to things like ... [SPOILER WARNINGS]
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(1) him standing and watching an enemy die in flames, without attempting to help them;
(2) his near-psychosis following his next regeneration;
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(3) everything that happens in "Remembrance of the Daleks" (but only after he's "wasted" a whole incarnation avoiding the issue, and just putting up a front of brusqueness and self-centredness).
Tegan is up there with the best departures. Another story that adds depth to the just thins once, everyone lives quote.
For the memoires of past companions and regenerations Leela is missing, an oversight. In my head canon it is The Doctor blocking her so the clone would be imperfect and it would give The Time Lords pause.
More proof that Davros surviving is the worst thing for the Daleks.
This is a bit like Earthshock but with Daleks instead of Cybermen - the discovery of objects on Earth, the main events taking place in space, plans for Earths destruction and the unexpected loss of a companion at the end.
Peri Peri Sauce
Turn to Big Finish for audio adventures that fills in where the TV show did not or could not.
Tegan was hot in this episode
I find some of the New Who goodbyes terribly drawn out and overwrought. I remember some people at one of the Doctor's final stories (as they dragged it out over companion after companion after companion being said goodbye to in ever more maudlin and lachrymose scenes) groaning "oh, go already!"
I wish Classic Who would linger on the companion departures more. Doesn't let you feel the emotions as much.
Ten?
Well, Jess. You've had quite a surprise, haven't you!
When I first saw this Dalek serial, I was aged 15 and I later got it on vhs and now dvd and it is one story I seldom watch and the body count is very high and Davros was to be killed off and replaced with the Dalek Emperor seen in the 60s TV comic Century 21 which did not feature the Dr, his comapnions or his TARDIS. The supreme leader of the Daleks, was a gold Emperor Dalek who was short in stature and squat shaped like Davros and the deputy was the black Dalek Supreme. I also liked the flashback sequence, even though Leela was missed out and also the scene with Davros and the Doctor was weird because we the Dr Who fans knew the Doctor could not when pointing a gun at Davros go through with killing the evil Dalek creator. The black Dalek Supreme with white, spheres in this story, was awesome and when he appeared on the TARDIS scanner telling the Doctor and co he had not won was funny. I think at that point the Black Dalek, was in the time corridor and not on the Dalek ship which got blown up .
Resurrection is absolutely crackling with ideas and plot lines but I feel like Saward then struggled with how to neatly tie the plot threads together. Also the studio direction just seems a little lacklustre in comparison to the location shoots (which brilliantly depicts just how much of a run-down shithole the East End docks were at the time).
Matthew Robinson (director) and Eric Saward (writer/script editor) would both do much better on their next serials.
Eric Saward also did the next Dalek story and that capitalised on the failures of this one. There are still loads of plot threads running through it but not so many that things are still left unresolved and the direction (with a different director, though) is much moodier and the style seems to match both on location and studio scenes.
I felt like the same way.
@@jerobriggs6861 I think it's a great shame that Saward never got to create and run the show about mercenaries that he was constantly trying to turn Doctor Who into...
@@chrispalmer7893 He would've made a great A-Team writer.
Interesting fact, this story had more on screen deaths than the original Terminator film, a fact that did not go unnoticed and received a great deal of complaints the majority of which concerned the characters dressed in (at the time) current Police uniforms and sporting very realistic looking weapons (sci-fi "ray" guns normally get a pass as they're obviously fake)
All i can say is buckle up for the rest of this series!
Martha's departure and Tegan's are comparable in that they both had witnessed awful things and chose to leave.
Well, Martha had a family that needed her just as much as she needed them. That’s why she stayed. Tegan didn’t have that emotional bond keeping her on Earth, unless she was going to see her cousin again! 🤣
Martha leaving was more to do with her feelings for the Doctor as well as looking after her family. They are comparable in the fact they had witnessed a lot of death, especially in their final stories.
A lot of inner conflict . . . The theme of the episode.
"Brave Heart Tegan"...Until the next time...
We don't see tegan again till Power of the Doctor...But we do hear her in MANY of the BF Audios..along with Nyssa, Adric, Turlough and the Doctor!
Seeing Tegan in 'Power of the Doctor' was just as discombobulating for me as it must have been for a slightly older generation being reunited with Sarah-Jane in 'School Reunion'. It's a bit like meeting up with a family member after a long time. And I mention this because that's precisely what happened over the Christmas period; seeing a nephew I once bounced on my knee with his wife and kids. And, as with Sarah's departure, this marked the final break with the previous Doctor. Whoever came next would have to look and sound a bit different....
It's interesting how these occasional philosophical discussions between the Doctor and Davros always seem to come out with the latter on top. It's a dog eat dog universe. The problem is, some dogs are deliberately bred for fighting.
On that look back through the Doctor’s past at 12 minutes in, they missed out Leela.
Exciting again although part 2 is like an extended shooting range (it becomes confusing who wants to kill who) and throws ideas at you which are never developed whilst Styles takes half an episode to set the self destruct and Stein takes half an episode to be wired into the archive clip-draining machine. But Tegan's departure is superb and arguably Eric Saward's finest hour. Frankly Tegan has been ignored, sidelined, patronised, mocked and ungraciously tolerated by the Doctor from day one. Davision's portrayal even hints he doesn't even like her that much (the end of Arc of Infinity). Duly he is so wrapped up in this adventure he fails to see the fatal blow the carnage delivers to Tegan's morale. She's rightly appalled by what her life now consists of ('It's stopped being fun Doctor'). The Doctor is genuinely mortified by her reaction but is far too late to do anything about it ('No don't leave not like this!') Tragic, real and a million miles from the cosiness of Who today. Janet Fielding's successor sat in on the studio recordings for that scene and felt it was not dramatic enough. I disagree. It was perfect. Reactionary and very Tegan and the the ultimate pay-off consequence of all the violence
I would love to watch a video about how you feel about Tegan returning in the Power of the Doctor, now you have gotten to know her and how she interacted with Jodie and Peters Doctor.
When Twitch (of all platforms) chose to run a Dr Who marathon a few years back - attracting fans, cynics and the merely curious along the way - one person in the chat spent the whole of 'Resurrection...' totting up how many people get killed. It's long been a statistic lazily thrown around that this story has a higher body count than 'The Terminator' (which wasn't even released until that October), but there's an awfully large number of people being shot or blown up or strangled or disfigured in this one. It might have been an attempt to look 'adult' or 'cool' or 'hard' in order to win back an increasingly disaffected young audience, but the times they were a-changin'....
I have issues with the story with it feeling quite messy. The point about there being a lot going on is valid as the daleks would probably win if they focused on one plot rather than at least two.
That said, it's fairly well made and nice casting. Tegan's departure is maybe sudden but it feels right. No random falling in love for her, thankfully.
35:36 Was that a Fuckin' Phantom in the background? 😅😂
Maybe Tegan's departure would have felt more natural if Resurrection of the Daleks was preceded by Warriors of the Deep (another particularly bleak serial where almost everyone dies). At the end of Warriors of the Deep, Tegan and Turlough are desperately trying to keep at least one or two Silurians alive with oxygen, but their efforts are to no avail.
You can feel Turlough was just as despondent and frustrated as Tegan, but there's a difference - Turlough was expelled and has no home to go back to. Tegan has a home to go back to.
The OTT death throes of the duplicate Archer and Calder is one of the most unintentionally entertaining moments of the episodes. In the book Archer says sadly 'It seems we die with dignity'. I'm sure that is Eric Saward having a pop at the overacting on the TV version
Please now respond to Tales of the Tardis with 5 and Tegan... :)
How can they include Katarina and Sara Kingdom but leave out Leela?
Either she was in a bit where the camera cut away, or the common fan theory applied that the Doctor deliberately blocked her from the transferred memories so his duplicate would arouse suspicion on reaching Gallifrey by not recognising Leela who lives there. K-9 mark I was also missing...
By mistake. But @frankshailes3205's answer is better. =:o}
Apparently JNT simply forgot to add Leela in.
Glad you enjoyed it, Jess, though as I said last week, I still think it’s one of the worst Dalek stories ever.
The most ludicrous part of the script is having the Daleks wanting the Doctor and his companions duplicated and returned to Gallifrey to kill the High Council! Why? With all that was going on at the time, you would have thought the Daleks had had enough to contend with, what with dealing with a virus that was killing them, as well as dealing with opposition Daleks who wanted them dead! Better just to put that idea on the back burner for awhile and concentrate on the matter that was currently facing them.
Of course Saward never explains why the Daleks want the duplicate Doctor and his companions to kill the High Council, so I guess it’s ok if they just do! It’s as if Saward came up with the duplicate story just so JNT could show a companion flashback! And how the hell did the production team miss Leela off the flashback sequence?
One thing I really hated (probably above everything else I disliked) was the Doctor being prepared to willingly kill Davros. We all know the Doctor only kills in self defence, or if his companions or others with him are in mortal danger, but this to me was way out of character for the Doctor, and in particular for five himself, to be prepared to kill someone in such a cold bloodied fashion as this. Sorry, but it just didn’t sit right with me.
I also never understood why all this death and destruction was the catalyst for Tegan to leave the Doctor! She lost her Aunt to the Master in her first story, saw her companion Adric blown up in Earthshock (another high body count story written by Saward) and was witness to a human massacre in Warriors of the Deep! Oh, and she was twice possessed by the Mara - and it’s only now that she wants to leave?
I thought her comment to the Doctor, “It’s stopped being fun,” was a ridiculous reason to leave him (based on what she’d seen in the previous stories I’ve mentioned), and I think Saward and JNT hadn’t really thought of a suitable reason for Tegan to leave, especially as this story was meant to close season 20, and Tegan would still have been a companion going into “The Five Doctors.” Now, because this story was held back to the next season (season 21), it was time for Tegan to leave so Saward had to tack on her departure at the end of one of the stories, and chose his own script to give her a ridiculous reason for her to go. IMO it was a poor way to write her out!
In the years following Resurrection’s original transmission, Eric Saward has openly criticised the story, blaming himself for delivering scripts which he felt were under par and did the Daleks a disservice. I would wholeheartedly agree with him on those observations.
Saward did redeem himself the following season by following up this hopeless mess with the sublime and brilliant Revelation of the Daleks. So in that respect for Saward, there was a decent ‘resurrection’ of sorts for him!
Where Dr Who really started getting way too violent, it's a great story but even the 5th Doctor is toting a pistol and blowing up Daleks.