My second attempt at a 5.0 tournament
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- Enjoy my match against Anthony!
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Anthony wins 6-2 6-4
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Impressive footwork mate really enjoyed watching and motivated me to improve more. Keep it up!
I appreciate that! Let's get it!
Lets go!!! Both players played well. I'm back in the game after 15 years and your channel has inspired me to work on my game! Thanks!
Man this was a really good match from both of you. I'm a 3.5 a few weeks from getting the 4.0 bump (I'm pretty sure) and this is the kind of level I aspire to. Keep it up!
Let's goooo! Keep working @grimson
Nice to hear someone narrate their match like this. I don’t totally agree with your self critique but this is what I saw that I think made the difference in the matchup.
1) I used to play a bit like you because I have a track and basketball background. You CAN double time it with your footwork and really overwhelm your opponent BUT you were approaching too much footwork at many times.
2. That leads to my second observation that when pulled out wide or for many backhands you attempted to slice or just didn’t seem to have the ability to set and drive your backhand in rallies - which is why you were trying to cover it through so many attempts at hitting inside out to his backhand. BUT as you should know from even the pros - if you don’t hit a good enough shot you open up the court. Many times he nailed you in the next series of balls after you went inside out and didn’t win the point.
3) Try to practice hitting off both wings around the court without being pushed back or losing ground. That’s where he beat you - he can a you should be able to - hit cross court back hands and forehands in succession over and over.
Obviously double faults don’t help but they happen to the best. Be more intentional than fast with your footwork and you’ll put away more of those shots and improve your backhand.
He also noticed you couldn’t drive your backhand return and so he started serving and volleying because he know the ball would be a floater.
I hate to hear developing players say that "they were going for too much." If you are at the level you want to be at, fine. If you just enjoy grinding and that's your style, fine. But, if you are not at your final destination, and your goal is to get better, you need to be going for shots that are out of your comfort range. You shouldn't go crazy, but you should be pushing it some. If you are still trying to improve, tournaments should be seen as practice and not a results-above-all endeavor. Take some risks. Punish balls that you know you should punish. Only way to get better. (helps develop mental tools to deal with frustration as well)
totally.
You have a point in general, but one of the points where he said he was going for too much was not a time to be going for much of anything. His opponent hit a wide ball that landed with 2 feet of the baseline with pace and he tried to hit a low screamer cross court which is percentage tennis. Andrew should have rolled a high ball with a little topspin cross court and deep and not gone for an aggressive shot at that point. I like to think of it as green light, yellow light and red light balls. A green light ball is a ball where you have time and are on balance, and typically it happens when your opponent hits a shorter ball. Yellow light balls are typical rally balls when you are not on defense but not on offense. Red light balls are when you are on defense. You should get aggreessive when your opponent hits a green light ball to you. You play yellow light balls back with your average rally ball. And you typically hit with more shape and less pace on red light balls.
@@CJZM7777 My point is that developing players should be working to increase what they perceive as "green light" balls and decrease what they perceive as "red light" balls. Without pushing yourself, your red and yellow light balls will increase and you will hit less and less balls with purpose. For example, if you want to improve, a deep-ish angle ball, with pace, needs to move from red to yellow. Red becomes a very deep, on-the-line, angle ball hit with pace. A true survival moment, instead of just a situation where you are a little uncomfortable with a ball. If your only goal is to win matches at your current level, then your green light balls will represent a very small percentage of points and you will perceive most balls as yellow and red. Not a good thing if you truly want to get better...
@@tallsaint2053 A ball with medium pace that lands within 3 feet of the baseline is a red ball at the pro level and the amateur level. It would be foolish to attack that shot at any level at it is not percentage tennis.
@@CJZM7777 I hear what you are saying, but respectfully disagree. You be you. All tennis journeys are different. I'm working hard to reduce what I currently consider red and yellow balls. I want to see more and more green!
Good vid. Both good players. Would love to see you do a 'equipment check in' with both players at the start though ie racquet, string, tension.
This is awesome man. I needed this channel. Thank you !
Always nice when your opponent goes on to win the whole darn thing. Makes that jagged pill easier to swallow.
Nice progress in a 5.0 tourney, losing a closer than the score match to the eventual winner. I could see you getting over that hump and winning such a tournament near future!
@TimelyAdventure Thanks a lot!
Nice one, subbed. And nice job improving
Great movement, footwork and technique from both players! Competitive match. Very enjoyable!
Fun video, Andrew. Congrats on stepping up and trying to progress, that's what it's all about. Tony is a strong player, doesn't make many mistakes and puts away the shots you're supposed to put away.
Tony is so centered and balanced for shots. And dang, he can grind and work points.
Only thing I noticed is a lot of looping on the FH, so there's not enough penetration. Also, short balls are not punished. I thought 5.0 should be able to punish short balls and have a more penetrating FH. This is probably why there's a lot of long points.
Both overspinning the ball. Haven't found the right balance between spin and pace.
Really good quality playing from both of you.
@leebr2010 Thanks a lot!
Good videos. Keep up the good work!
Hey man it's Felix met you today. Cool to see you play in real life been watching a lot of your matches. Hopefully can get in a hit in with you sometime
Hey Felix! I'll be around. I'll come hit with you and Khoa sometime👍
looks like Tony's baseline is pretty solid. He's definately comfortable there. With that in mind, hit short, bring him in and up to the net. Now you can either lob or pass him..That's how you can beat him next time...
I like the commentary!!! Different but I like it
Thanks a lot!
nice playing!
Awesome! May I ask what camera and gear you use to record this? Thanks!
Good match....Played in a very good spirit....Where is this?.....Keep it up!
Thanks! This was at Newport Beach Tennis Club. First time playing there myself. The club area seemed alright, but the courts are pretty nice.
I wanna’ be one of these guys when I grow up.
Nice footwork. You are light on your feet and powerful in your movement.
Thanks man!
Great match, all ways enjoy tournament play 👍👍
Biggest difference I notice is that he is moving you around a lot more than you are him. Often it looks like you’re hitting approach shots nearly right to him when you could be just a hair more flexible with your placement. Also on the groundies, power is good - but what’s better is for sure depth i’d say.
Great progress Andrew! Big improvements!
Thank you!
@advantagetennis3459 you're welcome!
Your serve is wicked!!
It has it's moments. 😅
how do you find these usta tourneys for some reason I cant find an y
If you told me that Anthony was your older brother and you guys took lessons together from the same coach when you were younger, I’d totally believe you. Your style and especially swing rhythms are very similar. Physically you both have that low center of gravity look caused by having legs that seem to never be straight (a good thing). Backhands aside you got to see your tennis Doppelgänger or perhaps a future you.
LOL!
This is going to get me back out on the court. It's been a couple years and a couple knee surgeries and I've wanted to be careful. Just need to get out there and feel it out. I played 4.5 and 5.0 level which is the worrying part to me, if I'll be able to compete at that level again.
@shoover2889 Awesome man! Be patient with your body. Build that trust back, and let us know how it goes.
Great Vid, that match was a grind. Where are you finding these tournaments? Just the USTA website?
Yessir!
Essentially every point is ending on an unforced error. Not one closing play. And every serve is a slice right into the forehand pocket of the returner. I applaud you guys for playing up. But this is not 5.0 tennis.
Exactly my thoughts. 4.0 - yes. But at 5.0 you can’t be playing that safe wi no winners
@ without seeing the player, that assessment is impossible to make. Ferrer, Chang found their strength in their speed and counter-punching. A 4.0 can best become a 5.0 by slightly upgrading the level of their shots. A 4.0 is just beginning to come out of advanced beginner and almost always has no variety in the shots in their game, and no consistent shape to their shots. Everyone wants to hit winners before they have a proven strength. No one talks about close rate - when you take risk, what percentage of the time do you win the point. For the vast, vast majority of players, consistently hitting winners is a pipe dream. And coaching to get the last few degrees of snap or spin , nexgen strokes, is complete malpractice. A 4.0 has a much better chance of becoming a 5.0 by going to the gym and track.
This is 4.5 level in SoCal
@@chrisyang3130 is that supposed to be impressive?
@@alexandermayer2026 not trying to say it's impressive or not impressive, just saying that it's not 5.0 in that area
Been there…done that. I feel your pain. 14:14
Good footwork, but you really need to capitalize with flattening out the forehand for some winners. Lots of opportunity to flatten one to force an error or for an outright winner. The loopy topspin isn't always the answer.
17:34 I think you figured out how to play him on the very first point. He doesn't seem to know how to play high spin balls :D
Nice video. How long did it take u to reach this level? I hope I can play like this some day
I've been playing fairly consistently now for the last 3 years. Before that, I was off and on for about 10 years.
Why is it when I hit with 5.0 players they played college tennis at Universities like Illinois, Georgia or Notre Dame? Not trying to take a shot at anyone, just trying to see why it looks different then the guys I played with when I lived in Charleston SC and now here in the Tampa Bay area. I am confused.
Make your balls less loopy. Drive the ball when you get a short one. Otherwise, good to see the improvement. Impressive!
Played in this tournament at 3.5, my first match was on the same court!
@AlexBartnik Oh that's funny. I hope you did better than me. 😁
I got to the second round but that was the end of the road. But a good experience for my first USTA tournament!
AYE! Nice job! Keep it up man.
When you met those players who sh*t talking all over during the match, you knew you gonna lost
what city are you based in?
imagine if anthony was in better shape lol
He held up better than me I thought. 😅
Wow, 2 full sets with long rallied in 18 minutes 😂😂😂
You could definitely win, beside serves, your slice are not low or deep enough. It seem you don't know what to do when your fh and serve can't immediately win you the point. Practice more defensive shot to reset the point.
Whats ur utr?
My UTR has crashed recently. It went from 8.44 about three months ago to 7.2 currently. I have my guesses as to why it crashed, but overall, I think I'm still playing at an 8+ level. The algorithm is just computing otherwise...
Is this Just Cure it ?
Yessir!
Work on backhand. The rest of your game is pretty solid looking.
man should learn how to finish points on short balls , you got good enough technique to do it. don’t give a weak slice and approach
you kept hitting to him which made him to little shots and you should have changed shot direction but you didnt which allowed him to stay in almost one place a lot of rallys, occasionally you would hit somewhere else and thats what caused a lot of errors and inaccuracies in his game.
This was especially true in the first set. In the second set you hit the corners better and gave Tony all he could handle. He doesn't cover court nearly as well as you, and if I was coaching you, that's what I would have told you to hang your hat on. Make him move 2 or 3 steps for every ball and his battery should definitely run out before yours. When you lost your groove in the second, you can again see Tony playing mostly from the middle of the court, while you chased down his better placed balls. You've got good potential and you still seem to be young enough to both improve and make your fitness advantage an issue for guys like Tony.
Great content. Build some confidence in your backhand!
@jd2722 Thanks a lot! The confidence in my backhand ebbs and flows so much. It'll get there soon!
@@advantagetennis3459 I don't know why your opponent keeps hitting to your forehand. Even his backhands were going down the line to your forehand. He should've been directing more of his backhand to your backhand.
He started to hit more to my backhand late in the second set.
@@advantagetennis3459 He sure did. You ran around almost every single backhand, which leaves your forehand side wide open. I would hit an inside in forehand and end the point or get you scrambling and come to the net.
Too much backhand slice...
Andrew, your split step is off a lot of the time. You're on the wrong foot too much causing you to play too fast eternally. You have a better game than this guy but you look too sped up when you play.
This is 5.0 level?
Metric system
You’re basically hitting it directly to him 80% of the match. I’d say that’s the only reason you lost.
Yeah, this guys looks a bit older, a tad bit heavy, and doesn’t like running around too much. When you moved him around, you were winning.
I wonder if this is a result of hitting too much. Your default becomes just hitting back to other player
Ain’t no way this crap is 5.0 more like 3.5
5.0? really? your 5.0 or 5.0 that everyone else knows ?
This is 4.5 level in SoCal
Not to be that guy but as someone who played D1 college tennis. This isn’t a 5.0 level. I’m curious what state this is in…
@@jackmckeen1 i said the same thing but people got triggered then proceeded to insult me. I know what 5.0 looks like, coaches at my club are 5. He wants to challenge me to a match I have accepted let see if that gonna happen
Former D1 players are not considered 5.0 until they are 31. If you played D1 tennis and are under 30, you'd be a 5.5 level player. Tony looks like he could've played college ball, likely not D1, but he's not out of the realm of being a 5.0. He wouldn't be competitive at a national level 5.0 tournament, but local USTA tournament, why not.
These cameras never do justice to pace and spin. Both of these guys can play serious tennis
@@unchivalry I want to play them, let's see how that goes
@@don9733 Please film it
No way this is 5.0. I know I am not 4.5 even but my serves and ground strokes are so much better with power and consistency than these 2.
Definitely not in California, even the 4.5 here can cook both of these, no offense
I'm guessing you wouldn't win a game against either of these players. People who talk like this usually suck at tennis. Am i lying? Didn't think so.
@@don9733 You're a 1.6 in California. How would you know?
@@TheJoePusher Im stating fact, the coach at my club is a former d1 and he is 5.0
He is leap and bound better than these 2, 5.0 in socal is hella good, their 100+ mph serves alone would cook these guys. Andulka park club in riverside CA, my name is don, im well known there, call them up they will tell u how good i am if u are curious. Im not in usta but equivalent to strong 4.5 i would definitely whip these 2. Doesn’t mean they not good just not good enough for socal 4.5-5.0
@@don9733 USTA 5.0 ranges from UTR 9-11. that's a fairly large range. So like i said, don't talk about things you know nothing about.