Depending on the scaling of his R1 bottom ability, initiative Azog might be the way to go over initiative Sauron since his R1 bottom would boost defense and his R3 would trigger before the enemy commanders can act. Azog has 17 initiative at level 0 so at level 50 he would have 42 initiative. With a full purple set of initiative focused gear or we be looking at a minimum initiative of 55
Only thing Azog will defile in this game is the shelf he will sit on 😂 a support comm is the last thing evil needs rn, especially in rp. They should focus fixing exsiting coms first before adding new bugged trash.
@TheHJWgaming we need a tank 100% undying don't live up to what his stats say, we rely on saurons rng to win , but why add a new one when there's 15+ of unusable coms? Gothmog,Mos and like you say Kirun, all have potential they just don't work , A little skill revision and adaptation would fix Evil straight up! From someone who's done Evil RP since launch, it's in a sad state offairs currently.
@@charlierodda7723 this is very true. But we can see his skills and so determine that Azog will not be a commander damage dealer, and most of his skills are leader (troop support) and limitation (enemy debuff)
@@legacyandrews1339 pretty much exactly the build I was considering, perhaps without the WK. Sauron for RP and maybe GTW for NRP instead in my opinion.
@@TheHJWgamingso I think sauron ,WK, shadow, agzog is possible. Lurtz is alternative for shadow. But for that WK must have equipment with unit boost and good for azog are commands with units double hit effects
Looks interesting, but tbh bringing a new troop support does not solve the problem we have with troop support and healing commanders... They should rather fix the problems in 2.0 first before adding new stuff that makes it more complex to fix the issues.
@@Sadsicpoetry agree, but his troop support skills do seem to be quite a bit stronger than what we have currently (compare his attack and defence skill to Elrond for example!) and he also has good limitation, so he should be a significant buff to troop support. I’m just happy the game is potentially back to being supported!
@@TheHJWgaming totally agree. BUT: powercreeping existing commanders feels like they are going to milk the cow even more. Im fine if the release new fancy stuff but then they should also provide an option to change respect of commanders. Im pretty sure the community would be reall happy if they release a single respect reset voucher in the end of season store (accessible to all that played through the season) ...
@@Sadsicpoetry 1000% agree. However this model is used in plenty of other games. Take something unrelated, like Yugioh duel links for example, the newest boxes power creep the previous, and you never get money back or refunds for your cards you paid for before. Unfortunately it’s the reality of micro transaction models
My initial thoughts are even though looks lovely and nice to have something new from a lore stand point he should be a DD and his stats suggest this. Skills don’t. Interested to see how he works in principle. Stop trying to bring back Elrond
@@infernoLoTR agree his stats currently reflect a DD comm. he should definitely have had at least one damage skill, seeing as he was so strong he beat down Thrain and smashed the shield from thorins arm! As for possible builds, I’m going to look into a few and do a video on these too 😘
@@ricardpitarque6637 the troop support skills appear to be a significant improvement on other troop supports. But agreed on the stats. I doubt he will be meta, and definitely isn’t what evil need
the developers threw out their brains, everyone was waiting for him from the very beginning of the game, everyone dreamed about him and finally they released him, but the hero who according to history should have been a killer, something like Dain, they did shit. 2.0 is getting worse and worse, visual updates are more important than the balance of heroes at a time when you can play only 10% of all heroes and it is basically dd, and here the developers have a brilliant idea in their heads, let's make a hero that the community has been waiting for for 3 years, just make it not interesting, like all the heroes of evil, let them buy it purely for a model or collection) ahahaha absurd.
@@vladmax1282 In theory this should be a significant buff to troop support, and he looks like he will synergise with both good and evil in NRP in my opinion. Not enough to make them viable, but still a buff from what I can see. I think they’re experimenting with buffing troop support, so as to not have to nerf the DD comms and provide respect refund tickets.
@@TheHJWgaming I don't think that he has anything special to attract my attention, for example, in the current realities, the support commanders show themselves poorly, and considering the fact that you need to invest in him and pump from 0, I would choose Sauron, who even on the f2p account of evil, I have r10 after the release version 2.0 sauron also has a condition and increased damage to the enemy, but he also has pursuit and 2 talents for insanity
@@vladmax1282 yes, he is not better than the best commander in the game. However he is still a buff to those who want to use troop support, and not always use the meta 😊
@@vladmax1282 I’m hoping he will be B tier, depends how well he synergises with popular troop support like Gil/Elrond and Sunind/Azru Khor. Think it’s hard to tell how good he will be, as most predicted Bard to be top tier, but he didn’t quite get there
@@TheHJWgaming on one of the leaked videos, we see him appear on a celeborn respect zero wearing the mythical color; it’s definitely due to a fake video
@@akira547 I recorded both the videos myself, so definitely not faked 😂 just log in to an account in bag end and look for yourself! All the information is there for everyone to see.
@@akira547 account needs to be in bag end. It will either be at the bottom of your not unlocked mythic commanders list, or the bottom of all commanders. You can also see in the northern part of the commander map there’s a new spot with Gandalf’s image, that’s a placeholder for when Azog is added.
Depending on the scaling of his R1 bottom ability, initiative Azog might be the way to go over initiative Sauron since his R1 bottom would boost defense and his R3 would trigger before the enemy commanders can act. Azog has 17 initiative at level 0 so at level 50 he would have 42 initiative. With a full purple set of initiative focused gear or we be looking at a minimum initiative of 55
@@Shadow-fb7nw yes I agree. We will have to wait and see as far as scaling goes 😁
I hope he is usable to counter white council in Kombination with shadow
Only thing Azog will defile in this game is the shelf he will sit on 😂 a support comm is the last thing evil needs rn, especially in rp. They should focus fixing exsiting coms first before adding new bugged trash.
@@mitxh_jxnes6020 need a suitable tank / support to rival Falgin & GTW in my opinion!
@TheHJWgaming we need a tank 100% undying don't live up to what his stats say, we rely on saurons rng to win , but why add a new one when there's 15+ of unusable coms? Gothmog,Mos and like you say Kirun, all have potential they just don't work , A little skill revision and adaptation would fix Evil straight up! From someone who's done Evil RP since launch, it's in a sad state offairs currently.
@@mitxh_jxnes6020 Oglurg too, should have been the tank evil needed
The polygons are a joke, for instance the Shadow doesn't show as being a damage dealer on his polygon while he's the best evil DD
In fact the Shadow’s polygon labels him as a good leader commander
@@charlierodda7723 this is very true.
But we can see his skills and so determine that Azog will not be a commander damage dealer, and most of his skills are leader (troop support) and limitation (enemy debuff)
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How did u get this ??
Is evil still deleted
Depends what you mean by deleted!
It still lacks a top tier second support commander to rival white council
Azog, Sunind, Witch King, And Azru Khor will be the new meta
@@legacyandrews1339 pretty much exactly the build I was considering, perhaps without the WK. Sauron for RP and maybe GTW for NRP instead in my opinion.
Sunind and azru are pretty much weak so I would run him with shadow, lurtz and sauron
@@flatbushzombie2057 troop support with damage comms?
@@TheHJWgamingso I think sauron ,WK, shadow, agzog is possible. Lurtz is alternative for shadow. But for that WK must have equipment with unit boost and good for azog are commands with units double hit effects
And WK unique are a must have
This is not a balrog
@@infernoLoTR or Gollum, Bilbo, the next Ringwraith etc, all of whom have pictures in the game files
@@TheHJWgaming I just want a balrog
@@infernoLoTR yea same, he’s been dragged out too long
@@TheHJWgaming understatement
Sorry I should have seen all the video 😅
Looks interesting, but tbh bringing a new troop support does not solve the problem we have with troop support and healing commanders... They should rather fix the problems in 2.0 first before adding new stuff that makes it more complex to fix the issues.
@@Sadsicpoetry agree, but his troop support skills do seem to be quite a bit stronger than what we have currently (compare his attack and defence skill to Elrond for example!) and he also has good limitation, so he should be a significant buff to troop support.
I’m just happy the game is potentially back to being supported!
@@TheHJWgaming totally agree. BUT: powercreeping existing commanders feels like they are going to milk the cow even more. Im fine if the release new fancy stuff but then they should also provide an option to change respect of commanders.
Im pretty sure the community would be reall happy if they release a single respect reset voucher in the end of season store (accessible to all that played through the season) ...
@@Sadsicpoetry 1000% agree.
However this model is used in plenty of other games. Take something unrelated, like Yugioh duel links for example, the newest boxes power creep the previous, and you never get money back or refunds for your cards you paid for before. Unfortunately it’s the reality of micro transaction models
Shouldnt they balance all the commandors first? And make the game actually play able
@@sigurdvarmdal1325 100% agree!
My initial thoughts are even though looks lovely and nice to have something new from a lore stand point he should be a DD and his stats suggest this. Skills don’t. Interested to see how he works in principle. Stop trying to bring back Elrond
@@infernoLoTR agree his stats currently reflect a DD comm. he should definitely have had at least one damage skill, seeing as he was so strong he beat down Thrain and smashed the shield from thorins arm!
As for possible builds, I’m going to look into a few and do a video on these too 😘
@@TheHJWgaming no Elrond
@@infernoLoTR elrondinho! Dual blows with bonus attack stacking with Azog what’s not to like 🥰
@@TheHJWgaming the fact that troop damage couldn’t fight its way out of a paper bag?
@@infernoLoTR it’s coming for you! 🤣
So a commander with huge basw stats for DD with support skills with an only interesting r3 .... another shitty comander for evil side
@@ricardpitarque6637 the troop support skills appear to be a significant improvement on other troop supports.
But agreed on the stats.
I doubt he will be meta, and definitely isn’t what evil need
the developers threw out their brains, everyone was waiting for him from the very beginning of the game, everyone dreamed about him and finally they released him, but the hero who according to history should have been a killer, something like Dain, they did shit.
2.0 is getting worse and worse, visual updates are more important than the balance of heroes at a time when you can play only 10% of all heroes and it is basically dd, and here the developers have a brilliant idea in their heads, let's make a hero that the community has been waiting for for 3 years, just make it not interesting, like all the heroes of evil, let them buy it purely for a model or collection) ahahaha absurd.
@@vladmax1282 In theory this should be a significant buff to troop support, and he looks like he will synergise with both good and evil in NRP in my opinion.
Not enough to make them viable, but still a buff from what I can see.
I think they’re experimenting with buffing troop support, so as to not have to nerf the DD comms and provide respect refund tickets.
@@TheHJWgaming I don't think that he has anything special to attract my attention, for example, in the current realities, the support commanders show themselves poorly, and considering the fact that you need to invest in him and pump from 0, I would choose Sauron, who even on the f2p account of evil, I have r10 after the release version 2.0 sauron also has a condition and increased damage to the enemy, but he also has pursuit and 2 talents for insanity
@@vladmax1282 yes, he is not better than the best commander in the game. However he is still a buff to those who want to use troop support, and not always use the meta 😊
@@TheHJWgaming I'll be honest, I really wanted him, always dreamed of him, but when I saw that he was a support hero, my excitement ran away haha
well, if we take into account the realities of today, what target will you give him? I would definitely give B
@@vladmax1282 I’m hoping he will be B tier, depends how well he synergises with popular troop support like Gil/Elrond and Sunind/Azru Khor.
Think it’s hard to tell how good he will be, as most predicted Bard to be top tier, but he didn’t quite get there
fake, celeborn is not a mythical and even less respect 0
I don’t understand what you mean? Azog is literally in the game currently for anyone to see.
@@TheHJWgaming on one of the leaked videos, we see him appear on a celeborn respect zero wearing the mythical color; it’s definitely due to a fake video
@@akira547 I recorded both the videos myself, so definitely not faked 😂 just log in to an account in bag end and look for yourself! All the information is there for everyone to see.
@@TheHJWgaming i tried but nothing :( how ?
@@akira547 account needs to be in bag end. It will either be at the bottom of your not unlocked mythic commanders list, or the bottom of all commanders.
You can also see in the northern part of the commander map there’s a new spot with Gandalf’s image, that’s a placeholder for when Azog is added.
Troop support gonna be the new meta?
I don’t think he will be enough to flip the meta, but he does appear to be an improvement on current options imo
Why cant evil get a DD like beorn smh dumb
Maybe will be better if devs nerf Beorn?
Imo they don’t want to nerf as it means refunds. They will likely either power creep or leave the meta stale and milk it