I love how the burn Anderson is giving to Hakuno can be seen as Nasu own critics about generic silent self-insert protagonists. I mean, its spot on. Generic savior type, loved by the plot, loved by the characters, loved even by the story, but nothing else behind their genericness. They are objectively boring. The only way for them to become something is to gain substance, a personality, during the course of their adventure, and that's the advice Andersen is giving to Hakuno, to become a true person and not just an empty vessel.
It seem you didn't understand what I meant, or that my wording was poor. I said that Andersen critized the archetype that Hakuno is incarnating in his eyes, the role she is playing, I didn't say that Hakuno was generic. And neither Anderen judged her "by her cover". His analyze is finer than saying she is devoid of personality. You have to be honest. Andersen is right in that regard.Look at Hakuno as a person. She is almost empty. She might be a snarker, obstinate, but she have very few traits apart from that. Can you list a hobby of Hakuno ? What she likes ? What she dislike ? Not really. It's not her fault, she was not even a true person to begin with. But it's the truth. When Andersen is saying she lack substance, he doesn't mean that as an insult. He is saying that Hakuno need to live, to and I quote "know herself", before being criticized as a person. Andersen does not judge a book by his cover, he simply aknowledge that she haven't lived enough yet for him to say anything about her. He is encouraging her to become a full person through "loss and profit". In few words, he is wishing her good luck and a full life.
Shirou analogy, man/girl, bless your soul. How many time have I seen our poor Shirou mistreated. The anime would have benefited from some of his internal monologues. I am really talking about Hakuno as at the start of the events of the game. She have to discover most of herself on the way of Extra, and beforehand she is almost clueless about even herself.Although I have to admit I went a little too far with her being empty, who she is is revealed because of the interactions with the servants and masters. Some of her own feelings even surprise herself early on. It is that I make reference to, the Hakuno of the start of Extra and ( well, not as much but still ) CCC. Most of herself come from those events, and its that progression that make her... Well, herself, our snark goddess. I mean, the more you play Extra, the less the dialogue option you take seem to have an impact as she is clearly becoming her own person. So, to put an end to this : Andersen analysis is not inherently wrong at the moment it is said. It is however not entirely accurate, and is more destined to be, in my opinion, a jab at a type of character that is rampant in JRPG and anime, like I said before. PS : I didn't mean to start an argument, and I hope it's all clear now. And I ignored that Hakuno had a sweet tooth. Do we learn it in some side material of Extra or in CCC ? ( And for not liking pervert, she definitively is one at heart. I mean, she was reaaaaaally insistent on seeing the program installation between Kiara and Sakura... )
Why she wouldn't? She was pragmatic, so she ate what she could as she needed it, that doesn't mean that she don't want to enjoy food, moreso after experiencing Gawain's mashed potatoes.
What I meant that arthuria didn't hates gawain's cooking per se, it's just she is too kind that she eat the bland dish (like leo said), it makes shirou's cooking ( or any food she eat there) taste heavenly in comparison
"How does it feel, running around with your limited information, being crushed by illusions?" I need to use that insult on someone someday just for the expression I would get in return.
11:11 He says this but CCC ending and his love Shakesphere and Dumas Work shows his love of Oudo/Royal Road Stories. And how he wrote fucking Ice Queen. I love this Contrarian.
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I love how the burn Anderson is giving to Hakuno can be seen as Nasu own critics about generic silent self-insert protagonists. I mean, its spot on. Generic savior type, loved by the plot, loved by the characters, loved even by the story, but nothing else behind their genericness. They are objectively boring. The only way for them to become something is to gain substance, a personality, during the course of their adventure, and that's the advice Andersen is giving to Hakuno, to become a true person and not just an empty vessel.
It seem you didn't understand what I meant, or that my wording was poor.
I said that Andersen critized the archetype that Hakuno is incarnating in his eyes, the role she is playing, I didn't say that Hakuno was generic. And neither Anderen judged her "by her cover". His analyze is finer than saying she is devoid of personality.
You have to be honest. Andersen is right in that regard.Look at Hakuno as a person. She is almost empty. She might be a snarker, obstinate, but she have very few traits apart from that. Can you list a hobby of Hakuno ? What she likes ? What she dislike ? Not really. It's not her fault, she was not even a true person to begin with. But it's the truth.
When Andersen is saying she lack substance, he doesn't mean that as an insult. He is saying that Hakuno need to live, to and I quote "know herself", before being criticized as a person. Andersen does not judge a book by his cover, he simply aknowledge that she haven't lived enough yet for him to say anything about her. He is encouraging her to become a full person through "loss and profit". In few words, he is wishing her good luck and a full life.
Shirou analogy, man/girl, bless your soul. How many time have I seen our poor Shirou mistreated. The anime would have benefited from some of his internal monologues.
I am really talking about Hakuno as at the start of the events of the game. She have to discover most of herself on the way of Extra, and beforehand she is almost clueless about even herself.Although I have to admit I went a little too far with her being empty, who she is is revealed because of the interactions with the servants and masters. Some of her own feelings even surprise herself early on. It is that I make reference to, the Hakuno of the start of Extra and ( well, not as much but still ) CCC. Most of herself come from those events, and its that progression that make her... Well, herself, our snark goddess. I mean, the more you play Extra, the less the dialogue option you take seem to have an impact as she is clearly becoming her own person.
So, to put an end to this : Andersen analysis is not inherently wrong at the moment it is said. It is however not entirely accurate, and is more destined to be, in my opinion, a jab at a type of character that is rampant in JRPG and anime, like I said before.
PS : I didn't mean to start an argument, and I hope it's all clear now. And I ignored that Hakuno had a sweet tooth. Do we learn it in some side material of Extra or in CCC ? ( And for not liking pervert, she definitively is one at heart. I mean, she was reaaaaaally insistent on seeing the program installation between Kiara and Sakura... )
Don't make another Sieg, he basicaly said
@@gabrieldoyen692 Yet he created Sieg-
@@kamiru2993 That was Higashide, Nasu didn't write Apocrypha. In fact, CCC was 2013 and Apocrypha was first published 2012
13:01 hans roast thot like a boss
This dialogue was just "wow" to me, hahaha. Seriously, he was so damn savage.
@@elderalencar4832 his savagery np is EX rank
These roasts god damn, I think ccc is the most fire that has ever been written by nasu
I really love it whenever Andersen start to pick on people
"Well the, dimwit who's less perceptive than a town girl, I'll give you this."
I CAN'T EVEN GET MAD, BECAUSE THAT WAS SO FUCKING BRILLIANT!! X,D
It really makes u wonder why Arthuria very fond of shirou's cooking, when back then she was served gawain's raw mashed potatoes
Why she wouldn't? She was pragmatic, so she ate what she could as she needed it, that doesn't mean that she don't want to enjoy food, moreso after experiencing Gawain's mashed potatoes.
What I meant that arthuria didn't hates gawain's cooking per se, it's just she is too kind that she eat the bland dish (like leo said), it makes shirou's cooking ( or any food she eat there) taste heavenly in comparison
@@vegaaltair8478 They call him Momiya in Chaldea XD
@@onemoregodrejected9369 really? XD
Like a true King of Britons lmao
Man, i knew Hans had a gift for roasting ppl but what he said to Kiara was his Magnus Opus.
"How does it feel, running around with your limited information, being crushed by illusions?"
I need to use that insult on someone someday just for the expression I would get in return.
So did you do it ?
@@tomnguyen7371 I in fact forgot about this entirely so thank you for the reminder.
Did you do it yet
... Well, must be true that deep down all the Round Table Members were actually weirdos XD
Little did she know she herself would be the little mermaid in fgo in 2020
Flags were raised.
Guess who got a new rank-up for his third skill?
11:00 Is it just me, or is Andersen breaking the fourth wall?
That's the point, Zelretch and Hans are effectively Nasu's avatars.
Andersen's roasts are god tier but damn kiara gave a nice burn at 18:25
Kiara showing her power level at the end, there.
11:11 He says this but CCC ending and his love Shakesphere and Dumas Work shows his love of Oudo/Royal Road Stories. And how he wrote fucking Ice Queen. I love this Contrarian.
13:06 GOD DAMN
Hans is the best. If he got a 5 star version I’d spent all my kroner to get it hahaha
HEAVENS HOLE!!!
Looks like things gonna get intense soon
I would like Andersen in EXTELLA
Hakuno clomping around like an elk
Mermaid Kiara lore right here
There exist Fate extra CCC english ISO?
Nope, this is edited videos of the Japanese version.
Was really hoping BB would show up to bitch slap Andersan.