To use the VIC cards (Voice Interface Card) in the 2600 you would need a voice network module like the NM-2V in the network module slot to provide the DSP resources Later routers have DSP SIMM slots internally to allow the voice cards into VWIC or HWIC slots
It's funny, I just watched Cathode Ray Dudes two hour long video on phones the other day, so now I know why caller ID only shows up after the first ring!
There are very few channels that can put out a 1hour+ video and I'd watch every minute of it. This channel, and Cathode Ray Dude are examples of two channels that are on that list.
I also want to add technology connections to that list. It's really astonishing that all of 'em can produce hour long videos, mostly scripted, about a topic which is either unusual or unknowingly interesting.
those late 2000's UltraSharp displays are excellent, especially the dual-input and PiP stuff, and they're very forgiving with analog inputs. I've had to recap both of my U2408WFP's and put new backlight tubes in them (not a job for the faint of heart!), and I also put a new backlight tube in one of my 1907FP's.
oh, if you want another retro homelab rabbit hole to go down, I recommend looking at GPS-disciplined network time servers. I've got a Symmetricom ET6000-86/NTS-100i IRIG-B pair, and getting them working was a fun challenge
I bet this caller id box specifically was a demo or engineering sample. I remember back in the day when they started implementing this feature into set top tv receivers, like cable boxes and satellite (DirecTV comes to mind). The channel plus people were probably selling their chipsets to those providers so they needed something to demonstrate how to add it in. (Execs can see what it looks like, and the serial port represents the internal way to manually control it.) Cheers!
As a system admin who only this year had inherited a cisco telephony environment its always great watching your videos and realizing I actually understand what your doing! Thanks for another amazing video!
Back in the day, probably around 2002? My family had a Dish satellite box that had on screen caller ID if you plugged the telephone jack into it. It would keep a call log in the menus and it was convenient because you wouldn’t have to get up to see who was calling. I forgot all about it until watching this video.
I want that Pioneer LD player! That was one bit of tech that was on it's way out when I got into home theater stuff and I had a full rack of Pioneer equipment.
Nice video I have a cisco 2800 in my lab and have set up the fxo and fxs cards also running the 7900 phones a lot of fun to play with. I love hearing the bell on the phones.
The way I was taught to remember which is FXS and which is FXO: The name does not describe the function of the card, it describes what you plug into the card.
If memory serves me, the FXO is meant for simulating a trunk line into digital versus the other way. Imagine where you have digital IP phones and need them to connect up to POTS telephone lines coming into the building from the phone company.
@AlexKidd4Fun No need to imagine - I know of many places that do exactly that. They have existing telephone contracts for analog lines, but they want to upgrade to an IP-based PBX internally. They use FXO ports to connect to the incoming phone lines.
Oh man, I still daily drive an ancient dell 2407wfpb. I love the design of the tilting arm. It's overdue for an upgrade but if it works I won't throw it out.
The 2600 having an IP address and showing those TFTP messages after being defaulted is part of its “provisioning” feature, where it can pull a configuration file over TFTP by itself. It is enabled by default and gets the address from DHCP, you can disable this by doing “no service config” and reloading.
More cisco walkthrough!! I took a CCNA course years ago but wasn't able to take the exam and haven't had much opportunity to keep myself up to date. I now have a cisco switch that I just barely have operational and would love seeing some more "in production" setup steps.
I shuddered at the use of 'new' in the backup filename. :P The sysadmin in me had a moment. Rather than new, much better to use the date (preferably in the format: YYYYMMDD. That way it sorts nicely in an ls) otherwise you end up with names like new, new2, newnew, newfinal, etc. But apart from that, I love your content. Brings back memories (I think they call it PTSD). I wish I had the room to have a retro rack, tho the electric bill I could do without. ;) BTW, if you ever want to set up an asterisk server, I've an FXS/FXO PCI card knocking around somewhere. Has a couple of ports populated but can't remember which.
Just fyi on the Cisco cli those short versions of commands aren’t explicit shortcuts. It’s based on matching the characters you type with no ambiguity, ie if you can tab complete it and don’t get multiple matches you can run it. So on some platforms you will have to type slightly more characters as they have added commands for features that also matches. On some of those older Cisco devices you can be extremely terse as for instance a lot of commands only have a single sub command so you can just use the first character.
I am a huge fan of those dell monitors as well, I've got the 30" 2560x1600 and two of the 24" 1920x1200 with all of the inputs. Mine are all three slowly dying though, the CFLs are getting weak and I am not sure if I want to replace them, or if I even can. Makes me sad I've been using them since about 2010 or so when I had bought them used from work.
you can replace the tubes! it's not fun but it's possible without pulling the panel apart, just requires carefully peeling back some aluminum tape along the edge (or cutting it and replacing it w/ new tape).
Hmm, i think i know of one application: current customer queue number. One row with number of waiting customers (small type) and the number of the currently served customer. And horse racing, inform about current just now 'odds' Every place you need to be able to while using normal TVs inform about status/odds etc
They were sometimes used in takeout/delivery restaurants, the serial port would interface with the Point Of Sale system to identify the customer calling and immediately get their address/order history.
@@clabretro and the LD you can get from 100 yen. got American editions of Forrest Gump, hunt for red October, batman returns, and Terminator 2 all for 100 yen each
6:00 the echo to /dev/tty will use a pre-configured serial port, you should show how to set baud rate, bits, parity using settty? otherwise its in some default mode imposed by the dongle/chip driver
If those phone numbers are sensitive they are legible through the blur, i'd recommend just using solid boxes for censoring those things :) edit: I paused like 5 seconds before you said they were from someone else. Doh!
@@clabretro Thanks, I have setup MANY saved searches for the hope that one might show up in future, like yourself I have an internal TV system, as well as an internal phone system, I like the idea of plugging it into my serial console server and having applications be able to send messages to it via telnet.
Seattle area! (hence the 425 test numbers). I'm in Colorado now though. This unit must have come from Michigan. One of the stored calls is from Fat Boys Pizza.
i can only subscribe once and if i move back in the play list cause i fall asleep not commenting or liking the comment will disappear if there was one the other day i doxed off while making a comment with it still open the video had played to the end stopped the auto play cause i never clicked comment when i woke some Teck person had typed in a bunch of techy talk and numbers it was a first for me and for some rezone i cant edit comments on some channel trying to figer out if it is the owner or tube or both doing it I'm always missing comments if i go back in the play list i live on you rube
To use the VIC cards (Voice Interface Card) in the 2600 you would need a voice network module like the NM-2V in the network module slot to provide the DSP resources
Later routers have DSP SIMM slots internally to allow the voice cards into VWIC or HWIC slots
ahhh! I've even learned that lesson before (and clearly forgot) haha.
It's funny, I just watched Cathode Ray Dudes two hour long video on phones the other day, so now I know why caller ID only shows up after the first ring!
lol me too, that was a good one
There are very few channels that can put out a 1hour+ video and I'd watch every minute of it. This channel, and Cathode Ray Dude are examples of two channels that are on that list.
Dont Forget the Network Chuck Cloud PBX video the other day as well! So much Netro/Retro Telecom I love it!
I also want to add technology connections to that list.
It's really astonishing that all of 'em can produce hour long videos, mostly scripted, about a topic which is either unusual or unknowingly interesting.
@@TIMLPDE Yup, I missed that one, my bad
1) MOAR CAT
2) Caller ID is always sent in the pause between the first and second rings :)
3) WHY HAVE YOU BEEN DEPRIVING US OF CAT
these devices were used in some offices to display the next "customer number/id" on the tv in the waiting room.
those late 2000's UltraSharp displays are excellent, especially the dual-input and PiP stuff, and they're very forgiving with analog inputs. I've had to recap both of my U2408WFP's and put new backlight tubes in them (not a job for the faint of heart!), and I also put a new backlight tube in one of my 1907FP's.
oh, if you want another retro homelab rabbit hole to go down, I recommend looking at GPS-disciplined network time servers. I've got a Symmetricom ET6000-86/NTS-100i IRIG-B pair, and getting them working was a fun challenge
In regards to the "pro" application. I had, at one point, seen these installed at fire departments to show dispatch information on TVs.
Ooo, I remember the first video you did on this, cool to see it return for further tinkering!
I love your "retro rack" vids, all your vids actually! Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Great stuff! Always a joy to get notifications.
I bet this caller id box specifically was a demo or engineering sample. I remember back in the day when they started implementing this feature into set top tv receivers, like cable boxes and satellite (DirecTV comes to mind). The channel plus people were probably selling their chipsets to those providers so they needed something to demonstrate how to add it in. (Execs can see what it looks like, and the serial port represents the internal way to manually control it.)
Cheers!
As a system admin who only this year had inherited a cisco telephony environment its always great watching your videos and realizing I actually understand what your doing! Thanks for another amazing video!
that's very cool to hear!
I love greybeard nerds. Providing a glimpse into the old days.
Back in the day, probably around 2002? My family had a Dish satellite box that had on screen caller ID if you plugged the telephone jack into it. It would keep a call log in the menus and it was convenient because you wouldn’t have to get up to see who was calling. I forgot all about it until watching this video.
I think we had one too
When we got satellite TV as a kid after stealing cable forever seeing the caller ID stuff felt like magic to me.
Nightmares from my Cisco CCNA class 😂
😂
Awesome video Clab, love watching these. The tech was so much more interesting back then. Brings a tear to the eye……
"If you want videos of that" < I mean, I am watching this video about this silly little thing, so of course I will watch videos about the other stuff!
I want that Pioneer LD player! That was one bit of tech that was on it's way out when I got into home theater stuff and I had a full rack of Pioneer equipment.
Nice video I have a cisco 2800 in my lab and have set up the fxo and fxs cards also running the 7900 phones a lot of fun to play with. I love hearing the bell on the phones.
The way I was taught to remember which is FXS and which is FXO: The name does not describe the function of the card, it describes what you plug into the card.
If memory serves me, the FXO is meant for simulating a trunk line into digital versus the other way. Imagine where you have digital IP phones and need them to connect up to POTS telephone lines coming into the building from the phone company.
@AlexKidd4Fun No need to imagine - I know of many places that do exactly that. They have existing telephone contracts for analog lines, but they want to upgrade to an IP-based PBX internally. They use FXO ports to connect to the incoming phone lines.
now this is what we like to see!
Great video! Really enjoyed this!
Oh man, I still daily drive an ancient dell 2407wfpb. I love the design of the tilting arm. It's overdue for an upgrade but if it works I won't throw it out.
love the tilting arm
The 2600 having an IP address and showing those TFTP messages after being defaulted is part of its “provisioning” feature, where it can pull a configuration file over TFTP by itself. It is enabled by default and gets the address from DHCP, you can disable this by doing “no service config” and reloading.
ahhh DHCP explains it. well now I need to do a video on that
The in-wall spy camera looks interesting.
More cisco walkthrough!! I took a CCNA course years ago but wasn't able to take the exam and haven't had much opportunity to keep myself up to date.
I now have a cisco switch that I just barely have operational and would love seeing some more "in production" setup steps.
definitely more coming!
Man! Routers are fun!!!
Another great video.
Great video!
thank you!
I shuddered at the use of 'new' in the backup filename. :P The sysadmin in me had a moment.
Rather than new, much better to use the date (preferably in the format: YYYYMMDD. That way it sorts nicely in an ls) otherwise you end up with names like new, new2, newnew, newfinal, etc.
But apart from that, I love your content. Brings back memories (I think they call it PTSD). I wish I had the room to have a retro rack, tho the electric bill I could do without. ;)
BTW, if you ever want to set up an asterisk server, I've an FXS/FXO PCI card knocking around somewhere. Has a couple of ports populated but can't remember which.
POTS is in the water. But we need more PURR in the videos!
I'm here for all of the telephony stuff. I'm hoping CRD does some phreaking stuff.
Europe has the TV text standard and i believe a number of horse racing tracks in Sweden used that to distribute info.
I request more cat content for future videos. Nikki looks to be awesome catto :)
Just fyi on the Cisco cli those short versions of commands aren’t explicit shortcuts. It’s based on matching the characters you type with no ambiguity, ie if you can tab complete it and don’t get multiple matches you can run it. So on some platforms you will have to type slightly more characters as they have added commands for features that also matches. On some of those older Cisco devices you can be extremely terse as for instance a lot of commands only have a single sub command so you can just use the first character.
I love your channel, i have some cisco gear to play... Greetings from Paraguay!
thank you!
I want to see more retro rack and more cats.
Please make more telephony videos, I love them! You should get yourself a Nortel phone system. They are great!
I am a huge fan of those dell monitors as well, I've got the 30" 2560x1600 and two of the 24" 1920x1200 with all of the inputs. Mine are all three slowly dying though, the CFLs are getting weak and I am not sure if I want to replace them, or if I even can. Makes me sad I've been using them since about 2010 or so when I had bought them used from work.
you can replace the tubes! it's not fun but it's possible without pulling the panel apart, just requires carefully peeling back some aluminum tape along the edge (or cutting it and replacing it w/ new tape).
I've been tempted to try a replacement!
Hmm, i think i know of one application: current customer queue number.
One row with number of waiting customers (small type) and the number of the currently served customer.
And horse racing, inform about current just now 'odds'
Every place you need to be able to while using normal TVs inform about status/odds etc
Woah! 517 area code. That must be from my neck of the woods (mid michigan)
They were sometimes used in takeout/delivery restaurants, the serial port would interface with the Point Of Sale system to identify the customer calling and immediately get their address/order history.
ah that would make sense
Wake up babe new clab video dropped
(I should really join your patreon lol)
yooooooo hahaha i just got back from Japan and got that exact same LD player. 5500 yen and in fully working condition (that's about USD 30)!!
that's a deal!
@@clabretro and the LD you can get from 100 yen. got American editions of Forrest Gump, hunt for red October, batman returns, and Terminator 2 all for 100 yen each
If this looks neat, I’ll allow it.
6:00 the echo to /dev/tty will use a pre-configured serial port, you should show how to set baud rate, bits, parity using settty? otherwise its in some default mode imposed by the dongle/chip driver
Ok, did you buy that phone because it has the ring tone from War Games? Fun video!
ha!
If those phone numbers are sensitive they are legible through the blur, i'd recommend just using solid boxes for censoring those things :)
edit: I paused like 5 seconds before you said they were from someone else. Doh!
ah yeah and they're probably 20 years old lol
Next video:homelab isp
Ten calls in a day? My number somehow got associated with a vacant property and I was averaging ten spam calls a day alone for that property.
brutal
Where'd you get that shirt youre wearing at the end???
cottonbureau.com/p/DNUF4N/shirt/electronic-switching-system#/18452161/tee-men-premium-lightweight-premium-heather-tri-blend-s
I remember having this as a kid. Pretty interesting tech.
oh wow!
They used that device in call centers...
More ibm content pls
Want, where did you get it? I can't see any on fleabay...
ebay over a year ago. haven't seen another since 😕
@@clabretro Thanks, I have setup MANY saved searches for the hope that one might show up in future, like yourself I have an internal TV system, as well as an internal phone system, I like the idea of plugging it into my serial console server and having applications be able to send messages to it via telnet.
Are you from Michigan? I know that zip code well.
Seattle area! (hence the 425 test numbers). I'm in Colorado now though. This unit must have come from Michigan. One of the stored calls is from Fat Boys Pizza.
Those are ansi code and i wonder how far you could take that - display an ansi art on screen!!
I think my previous post was deleted, but if you are interested in the Cisco phones, I could donate a few!
I am! shoot me an email at the address is the channel's info section (might need to be on desktop to see it)
@@clabretroYAY!! Will do! I’m happy to move some along to someone who would enjoy them lol.
idk if old cisco gear supports it, but for small files xmodem is way more convenient than tftp
that 2600 supports it!
#telecember!
make me one
Stop using blur! People can use tactics to remove the blur and find out the real information.
i can only subscribe once and if i move back in the play list cause i fall asleep not commenting or liking the comment will disappear if there was one the other day i doxed off while making a comment with it still open the video had played to the end stopped the auto play cause i never clicked comment when i woke some Teck person had typed in a bunch of techy talk and numbers it was a first for me and for some rezone i cant edit comments on some channel trying to figer out if it is the owner or tube or both doing it I'm always missing comments if i go back in the play list i live on you rube