@@Stealth17Gaming its important to remember even the best players don't win every game. 1 sneak attack, or 1 bombing run can ruin a game easy. You have to make some assumptions what the enemy will do and you can't ever be right every time.
Although I love playing dirty with the whole infiltration and flanking tactics but I hate it when the enemy team does it...but I always admire the ones capable of pulling it off...Sooo...yeh nice job ..you definitely fought like man doing all that....and I have to say you're very good at micromanaging your whole army at a larg map like that.
I am by no means an expert in 1v1s, but I've really been enjoying your ranked matches, and here are a few things I'd like to point out on this match: I think perhaps cving Foxtrot before trying to cv Charlie would have been better? Seemed like a safer option. On foxtrot, having the Unita in town and a recon squad would have done wonders, as well as having an extra (medium) tank there. 20:40 I dont think the pathfinders are spotting that much from there, perhaps having them on the other side of the town would be more helpful? They seem to be too far Delta to be useful to you. Also, buying something for that little forest in Delta would have been a good idea. You could atleast spot some of his attemps at pushing the bridges. The last little thing I'd like to point out, was that you could have used the recon and SF at his base much better. Either use them to distract him, or just try to kill some of the transports to atleast slow down his response, especially in the final minutes. At a time he is panick buying a bunch of helos the SASF would have given you a a better chance at staying in the sectors. Anyways, those were some of the little things, now regarding "bigger stuff"... The Rhino is great, if you bought it, use it! There were 2 times where you really should have. One was after spotting his jeep cv on foxtrot... You know its a jeep cv, and it didnt move too far from its original position (I don't think so anyways), and I believe it was getting hit by fire, hence the move-stop-move-stop. Your recon rooikat also spotted the inf cv on Delta, but then it switched buildings... The Rhino is good, and you had the timer ticking... Just spam it in that town block, you would have killed it eventually. And the big one... anti-air... Usually having an ASF is nice, but when you are playing against this guy whos answer to any situation is either a plane or a helicopter, having an ASF and keeping your "Crotales" with ammo is rather important. I'd say that in this specific case, having a couple supply trucks on both frontlines to keep your AAs supplied would have helped you out a lot, really. Everytime you lost a CV it was to a helicopter or a plane. Oh, and I almost forgot this one ... Base defense! Especially against a helo player, you can never be too careful. I know you are investing points that could be used elsewhere, but... its a must :/ Also, imho, you should have tried to use a helo (perhaps the recon alpha) to fly over Charlie and see if you could spot his cv... It didnt seem to be that well protected against helos. I hate to be that guy who writes a whole book about a 40 minute game, but I think you got a lot of room for improvement on this one...I know its easy to sit here and say what you could have done better, as I am not "under pressure" as you were, but I feel like the AA situation was pretty bad on this match. Also, I hear you say that you should be more agressive, and its hard to break the habit. My tip is to keep trying to be more AND more agressive... I know it sounds stupid but think about this way: If you are too agressive, you lose, you learn. If you don't, you will never learn when to push and punish your enemy, therefore letting them have the upper hand. Anyways, I know I wrote a lot but, I really enjoy your ranked videos and I really want to see you climb up in the ranking. Its also been making me want to play ranked more often (as I dont't play ranked that often) and regarding your current rank (going down to private), dont worry about it. Learn from your mistakes and aim for a higher rank than you were before ;) That would be all, have a nice weekend (everybody)!
The ending was truly intense. I really liked the way you detected him as a helo Rush guy. Video is old, I know, but anyway I liked it so why not leave the comment
No matter what you say, I've been watching your ranked games since you started back. And your SA games have improved quite a LOT and it has become more interesting to watch. Disclaimer: I am an utter noob in the game with 0 ranked games and multiple back to back losses against AI. But being Armchair General is easy hehe. Anyway, I love your content A LOT. I cannot use patreon for some reason (It keeps declining my bank and card). So I'll use the Join Button. you definitely deserve it.
Buccaneer is an interesting unit. So many missiles allow you to re-roll accuracy and with increasing hits it gains veteran exp; Growing finer with age. Perhaps a mechanism for its perceived efficacy?
Indeed. When you need an 'Oh Fuck' button, helos are typically it because they're fast and have some measure of staying power unlike planes. That said, a canny player can exploit that by setting up longer-ranged SHORAD pieces, which can ambush incoming QRFs. I like to do a thing where I bring in a SHORAD and a HIMAD piece together when I do a push, so that the inevitable plane and helo QRF get shot at as soon as they pop up. While this does increase costs I find it to often be a more than worthwhile play to make.
Hey Stealth, love your work as always. That guys seems like he is a professional dick - great job in beating him. I think he was just shocked that someone didn't immediately fall to his usual cheesy helo rush. I am by no means a good or even competent player but here's a trick I learned off Razzman's videos. If you look above the unit's health bar you will see a much thinner bar that shows the unit's currently accrued XP - if any of the bars are filled up then you know that the unit has killed something. Combine that with a quick check of unit ammo loads and you can easily tell if a unit a) has been in combat (based on amount of ammo expended), b) against what target type (armored or soft depending upon type of ammo expended) and c) whether or not they have killed their target (depending upon XP level). This is a great way to check if a blind "Fire at Position" attack or artillery strike has succeeded, it can also let you know if the unit has been ambushed on the way to the front.
Shoot and shoot using tanks with high rate of fire (Leclerc comes to mind) or fast speed (T-80UM) while using cover and terrain is best I can suggest. Trade space for time and use superior tanks at range. If you're going to ask "what if you don't have space to trade for time", then I think you're screwed up way before the horde of cheap stuff gets into your face.
@@icyarc8859 well, I was playing Israel mechanized, wanted to deploy def line, and I got hit in the face by around 40-60 tanks. Mostly cheap reacon tanks and two T-90S. I didn't have points nor cluster stuff nor eyes where all this is after I got overrun
You are wrong stealth. By the nicks this dude is using he is clearly from Italy. Stromboli italian island with a volcano. Sinisa mihailovic played in the italian soccer league in a team named sampdoria, one of the two soccer teams based in Genova, and now he the GM of another italian soccer team named Bologna. The only language where you can find the vampire Dracula with those letters it's italian. P.s. helo rushing isn't cheating. It can be annoying but it is still within the game rules and mechanisms.
Hey stealth recently I don’t know if it’s something with your settings but your mic has been seeming a bit quiet. If this is intentional I understand but just wanted to let you know
Yes you can but only if you know it's coming. Especially in Ranked every unit you get matters, which means you likely won't be able to survive long enough till AA arrives
Ah, yes. I think I understand what the issue is. It strongly depends on the amount of units you start the game with. The fewer units you've, the more you've to sacrifice, to replace a offensive unit for a defensive counter (AA) unit. Bedankt!
@@hundun5604 it's not only a matter of how many units you have (in your deck), it's also the limited 'points' you can spend at the start of the game. Those points are used to deploy new units. At the start, you need to make choices: do I buy AA to counter a potential heli rush, or maybe shoot down a recon chopper? Or do I get extra infantry to claim a sector on the map? If you spend a hefty amount of points on AA for a heli rush that doesn't come, you can get overrun by the enemy who has spend his points on ground units. It's a serious mind fuck:)
I could say this about helo rush and all such strategies. While not exactly "unfair" - what they do is they put all eggs in one basket. If the opponent is prepared - you lose and if he is not - you gain a decisive advantage. So what they do is they let you win or lose without having to really play. I mean, without having to think and respond to your opponent. All meme builds and gimicks in all strategy games basically do this. They reduce the relevance of analytical response. This is why it is really a coward's approach. The guy who plays gimmics deep down is afraid to engage in genuine strategy.
" reported" for playing the game? what the hell. you say that you don't like the play style and you get on a bit of a high horse and say " it is a game let's have fun" like come on man, it is a game yeah and people find enjoyment in a lot of ways, so no there is nothing wrong with doing that. you should protect your base and try not to get kill in anyway you can.
I'll say what I always say. A helo rusher at least has the common courtesy to end the game quickly so you can do other things. An INF spammer forces you to play the game at a severe disadvantage depending on your deck. They are vile and sadistic human beings because they enjoy your suffering. Too much of a wuss to play the game this way..
@@rumrain838 mate I can barely remember last week, you think I can remember what I was talking about a year ago? But judging what past me wrote, someone was probably playing smart and 'un-manly' prompting someone else to say they should play like a man, correlating men with stupidity and non men with non stupidity. So past me made a joke about it. But I dunno. Build a time machine and ask past me those tricky questions.
Dude, how could you win so closely when your K/D ratio (units killed vs. units lost) was so much better?? You practically killed almost all of his units.
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After this game, I've only had losses. I went right back down to Private.
isn't that the way it always goes, I've been loving all the wargame content! Im sure you'll get back on track
I hope you're not as salty as your opponent was :)
Dont worry your comeback will be quick if u play a lot
@@bjornoverbeek4736 I'm no saint. I don't rage in game but I can still get very frustrated outside of it.
@@Stealth17Gaming its important to remember even the best players don't win every game. 1 sneak attack, or 1 bombing run can ruin a game easy. You have to make some assumptions what the enemy will do and you can't ever be right every time.
16:30 The LAV-25 commander yells 'We are under attack!' Then the gunner replies ' No we aren't, it's a Milan!'
lol
Haha. :D Nice one.
Its a shame they made ATGMs so inaccurate.
Enemy spams Heli's and Airplanes
Stealth: Do i need AA? Naaa
To be fair stealth had 6+ AA at one point. The other guy was just suiciding insane amounts of air.
Also won and had a 1500 point kill lead.
Me: *wants to watch the vid*
Stealth: ,, get some supplies"
Me: Damm now i have to go down stairs to get somethink, thanks alot...
Your supply lines are too long. Move your FOB closer.
@@Stealth17Gaming ROFL
Although I love playing dirty with the whole infiltration and flanking tactics but I hate it when the enemy team does it...but I always admire the ones capable of pulling it off...Sooo...yeh nice job ..you definitely fought like man doing all that....and I have to say you're very good at micromanaging your whole army at a larg map like that.
I like how they complained that you had 'just sent infantry ahead' after the end, stupid in many ways
Of course the helo rusher complains when someone else plays the game regularly lmao
Love that the left side was looking pretty shaky until one singular Rooikat decided to maul everything in sight
Wow that had me at the edge of my seat, fantastic flanking!
I am by no means an expert in 1v1s, but I've really been enjoying your ranked matches, and here are a few things I'd like to point out on this match:
I think perhaps cving Foxtrot before trying to cv Charlie would have been better? Seemed like a safer option.
On foxtrot, having the Unita in town and a recon squad would have done wonders, as well as having an extra (medium) tank there.
20:40 I dont think the pathfinders are spotting that much from there, perhaps having them on the other side of the town would be more helpful? They seem to be too far Delta to be useful to you.
Also, buying something for that little forest in Delta would have been a good idea. You could atleast spot some of his attemps at pushing the bridges.
The last little thing I'd like to point out, was that you could have used the recon and SF at his base much better. Either use them to distract him, or just try to kill some of the transports to atleast slow down his response, especially in the final minutes. At a time he is panick buying a bunch of helos the SASF would have given you a a better chance at staying in the sectors.
Anyways, those were some of the little things, now regarding "bigger stuff"...
The Rhino is great, if you bought it, use it! There were 2 times where you really should have. One was after spotting his jeep cv on foxtrot... You know its a jeep cv, and it didnt move too far from its original position (I don't think so anyways), and I believe it was getting hit by fire, hence the move-stop-move-stop. Your recon rooikat also spotted the inf cv on Delta, but then it switched buildings... The Rhino is good, and you had the timer ticking... Just spam it in that town block, you would have killed it eventually.
And the big one... anti-air... Usually having an ASF is nice, but when you are playing against this guy whos answer to any situation is either a plane or a helicopter, having an ASF and keeping your "Crotales" with ammo is rather important. I'd say that in this specific case, having a couple supply trucks on both frontlines to keep your AAs supplied would have helped you out a lot, really.
Everytime you lost a CV it was to a helicopter or a plane.
Oh, and I almost forgot this one ... Base defense! Especially against a helo player, you can never be too careful. I know you are investing points that could be used elsewhere, but... its a must :/
Also, imho, you should have tried to use a helo (perhaps the recon alpha) to fly over Charlie and see if you could spot his cv... It didnt seem to be that well protected against helos.
I hate to be that guy who writes a whole book about a 40 minute game, but I think you got a lot of room for improvement on this one...I know its easy to sit here and say what you could have done better, as I am not "under pressure" as you were, but I feel like the AA situation was pretty bad on this match.
Also, I hear you say that you should be more agressive, and its hard to break the habit. My tip is to keep trying to be more AND more agressive... I know it sounds stupid but think about this way:
If you are too agressive, you lose, you learn. If you don't, you will never learn when to push and punish your enemy, therefore letting them have the upper hand.
Anyways, I know I wrote a lot but, I really enjoy your ranked videos and I really want to see you climb up in the ranking. Its also been making me want to play ranked more often (as I dont't play ranked that often) and regarding your current rank (going down to private), dont worry about it.
Learn from your mistakes and aim for a higher rank than you were before ;)
That would be all, have a nice weekend (everybody)!
Thanks for the constructive feedback. Really appreciate it :)
Wow your dedication to detail is amazing.
@@saltyfloridaman2027 Thank you.
The ending was truly intense. I really liked the way you detected him as a helo Rush guy. Video is old, I know, but anyway I liked it so why not leave the comment
No matter what you say, I've been watching your ranked games since you started back. And your SA games have improved quite a LOT and it has become more interesting to watch.
Disclaimer: I am an utter noob in the game with 0 ranked games and multiple back to back losses against AI. But being Armchair General is easy hehe.
Anyway, I love your content A LOT. I cannot use patreon for some reason (It keeps declining my bank and card). So I'll use the Join Button. you definitely deserve it.
Thanks very much!
@@Stealth17Gaming Sorry I can't do more than the second tier. Not much money to spare at the moment sadly. :( :(
OH NICE COMEBACK!!! GG WP
Buccaneer is an interesting unit. So many missiles allow you to re-roll accuracy and with increasing hits it gains veteran exp; Growing finer with age. Perhaps a mechanism for its perceived efficacy?
Wow, Mr. Stromboli sounds like a nasty piece of work.
Helicopters are attractive as a QRF because, well, they're fast.
Also, wow! A real photo finish!
Indeed. When you need an 'Oh Fuck' button, helos are typically it because they're fast and have some measure of staying power unlike planes.
That said, a canny player can exploit that by setting up longer-ranged SHORAD pieces, which can ambush incoming QRFs. I like to do a thing where I bring in a SHORAD and a HIMAD piece together when I do a push, so that the inevitable plane and helo QRF get shot at as soon as they pop up. While this does increase costs I find it to often be a more than worthwhile play to make.
Great use of your forces. Knowing your forces strengths and weaknesses.
Great game, its nice to see Victories against these sort of Toxic players. The salt and cope is unreal. GG
I hate helorushers (they even upload to TH-cam their rushes)
In glad to see that u won against one
Love this map. I do admire how well you're playing ZA. I must admit that I struggle with them, which is embarrassing as I am South African.
Got killed while playing them plenty of times
One thing, hide in jungles.
Play as guerrillas, SA wont win against a tank rush or on air, so you must use them cautiously.
Great Microing man ! I like that !
What was he angry about after the match?
Considering the guy keeps changing his nickname and helorushing, he's just a salty and toxic player.
"Get some logistics for yourself" 🤣😂🤣 this is the best way I've ever heard someone preface along video!!!!
well played. exciting to the very end.
14:15 how do you know that *your* unit is getting spotted by someone?
Honest question
If u are in a forest or building and the unit stop blinking it means u are spotted
@@shel5196 ooooh good to know, thanks
@@shel5196 units blink?! xD
@@donutking7 i mean where u see the name and type of the unit is what blinks
(I don’t know a lot of English sorry)
@@shel5196 no worries, thanks for the info!
Hey Stealth, love your work as always. That guys seems like he is a professional dick - great job in beating him. I think he was just shocked that someone didn't immediately fall to his usual cheesy helo rush.
I am by no means a good or even competent player but here's a trick I learned off Razzman's videos. If you look above the unit's health bar you will see a much thinner bar that shows the unit's currently accrued XP - if any of the bars are filled up then you know that the unit has killed something. Combine that with a quick check of unit ammo loads and you can easily tell if a unit a) has been in combat (based on amount of ammo expended), b) against what target type (armored or soft depending upon type of ammo expended) and c) whether or not they have killed their target (depending upon XP level).
This is a great way to check if a blind "Fire at Position" attack or artillery strike has succeeded, it can also let you know if the unit has been ambushed on the way to the front.
Olifant cv was left by delta?(middle of map) for a few mins not capping. could have helped with points, but otherwise great play
"It's not guaranteed it was him"
His name, that was used here, was in the list :V
Subbed love the commentary.
Thanks, welcome to the channel!
Great game!!!
And tbf. Can I get an advice. How do I stop a cheap tank rush. Like a 20pt tank rush from Chinese deck?
Cluster bombers will flatten a cheap tank rush in no time. Or if you can time it right, cluster arty.
@@icyarc8859 what if I don't have cluster bomber nor arty
Shoot and shoot using tanks with high rate of fire (Leclerc comes to mind) or fast speed (T-80UM) while using cover and terrain is best I can suggest. Trade space for time and use superior tanks at range. If you're going to ask "what if you don't have space to trade for time", then I think you're screwed up way before the horde of cheap stuff gets into your face.
Mind you, shoot and shoot takes a lot of good micromanagement
@@icyarc8859 well, I was playing Israel mechanized, wanted to deploy def line, and I got hit in the face by around 40-60 tanks. Mostly cheap reacon tanks and two T-90S. I didn't have points nor cluster stuff nor eyes where all this is after I got overrun
what do you guys think Red Dragon compared to Steel Division 2?
I'm looking to buy a strategy game...
Nice win
Helo rushing is like slice only in tennis, i fucking lost to it in an important match but fair play... fair play...
How long does it take to learn this game? Looks like it's depicting the field of eastern Ukraine in the current ongoing war.
You are wrong stealth. By the nicks this dude is using he is clearly from Italy. Stromboli italian island with a volcano. Sinisa mihailovic played in the italian soccer league in a team named sampdoria, one of the two soccer teams based in Genova, and now he the GM of another italian soccer team named Bologna. The only language where you can find the vampire Dracula with those letters it's italian. P.s. helo rushing isn't cheating. It can be annoying but it is still within the game rules and mechanisms.
Hey stealth recently I don’t know if it’s something with your settings but your mic has been seeming a bit quiet. If this is intentional I understand but just wanted to let you know
Yes it's something I'm aware of. For some reason my recording software keeps resetting to 50% for my mic. It's very annoying.
Damn, this was an interesting game to watch!
This Match was very entertaining.
11:30 Gorrilian nation XD
Ive been thinking about the algorithm and stopping praising it is not usefull
So
FOR THE ALGORITHM
(Loved this replay ; gg )
Good Match
what is elo rush?
hey Stealth,heb je WARNO gezien?wargame 4,ik kijk er naar uit,zeker naar je nieuwe content,keep it up!
Jep. Afgelopen vrijdag een video over gedaan.
@@Stealth17Gaming dan ga ik die zo ff kijken!
Moar pls stealth I neeeeed this kinda content
“Best Ranked Matched Yet where I win”
Fixed the title
Good video, FYI you pronounce the buffle as "bifil"
You can't counter a heli rush with AA and air superiority? Serious question, I don't have a clue about this game.
Yes you can but only if you know it's coming. Especially in Ranked every unit you get matters, which means you likely won't be able to survive long enough till AA arrives
Ah, yes. I think I understand what the issue is. It strongly depends on the amount of units you start the game with. The fewer units you've, the more you've to sacrifice, to replace a offensive unit for a defensive counter (AA) unit. Bedankt!
@@hundun5604 it's not only a matter of how many units you have (in your deck), it's also the limited 'points' you can spend at the start of the game. Those points are used to deploy new units. At the start, you need to make choices: do I buy AA to counter a potential heli rush, or maybe shoot down a recon chopper? Or do I get extra infantry to claim a sector on the map? If you spend a hefty amount of points on AA for a heli rush that doesn't come, you can get overrun by the enemy who has spend his points on ground units. It's a serious mind fuck:)
Don't trust the card about the Buccaneer... It is not accurate.
Noted.
Wait is that the card or the Buccaneer XD
Lol....If nowt else, here end the lesson 😂
I could say this about helo rush and all such strategies. While not exactly "unfair" - what they do is they put all eggs in one basket. If the opponent is prepared - you lose and if he is not - you gain a decisive advantage. So what they do is they let you win or lose without having to really play. I mean, without having to think and respond to your opponent. All meme builds and gimicks in all strategy games basically do this. They reduce the relevance of analytical response. This is why it is really a coward's approach. The guy who plays gimmics deep down is afraid to engage in genuine strategy.
Brooooo!!! jajajaja, amazing!!!
this is why i dont play multiplayer it is so toxic
malding
This would be a good game if it were 40k units. Id buy it right now and any expansions!
I really want to like this game, but it's just way too fast paced.
Everyone on youtube playing SA in this has a Dutch accent, weird. :p
noice
" reported" for playing the game? what the hell. you say that you don't like the play style and you get on a bit of a high horse and say " it is a game let's have fun" like come on man, it is a game yeah and people find enjoyment in a lot of ways, so no there is nothing wrong with doing that. you should protect your base and try not to get kill in anyway you can.
I'll say what I always say. A helo rusher at least has the common courtesy to end the game quickly so you can do other things. An INF spammer forces you to play the game at a severe disadvantage depending on your deck. They are vile and sadistic human beings because they enjoy your suffering. Too much of a wuss to play the game this way..
hmm
use anti-aircraft defense in pairs to once, although I like your playing, but with the Warsaw Pact or Russia, I ate you in 20 minutes
Play like a man, huh? Because playing like a not-man (woman? non-binary?) is more effective? Maybe you should play like a not-man more often ;)
Huh?
@@CyberHak ah?
@@brijekavervix7340the heck is a non binary
@@rumrain838 mate I can barely remember last week, you think I can remember what I was talking about a year ago?
But judging what past me wrote, someone was probably playing smart and 'un-manly' prompting someone else to say they should play like a man, correlating men with stupidity and non men with non stupidity. So past me made a joke about it. But I dunno. Build a time machine and ask past me those tricky questions.
Dude, how could you win so closely when your K/D ratio (units killed vs. units lost) was so much better?? You practically killed almost all of his units.