When I bought this, I thought I would be using it to exclusively make synth sounds but it didn't work out that way. Really, the real strength of this pedal for me, is mixing low levels of synth sounds in with the guitar signal. It becomes it's own unidentifiable thing. Sounds like guitar but yet there is something a little strange about the sound of it.
I think you've discovered the key to using pedals in a way to make you sound unique; If all you go for is out of the box sounds, it might sound good, but It also sounds exactly like everybody else that bought the same pedal.
Your videos on this pedal are really the best out here! There are few videos that feel like the reviewer has spent much time with the pedal and feels like the more time you spend with this one, the better.
Thanks man! I do try, but I really appreciate that. I do think that too many others aren’t discussing how to actually apply it to your rig. For me, that’s been the tricky bit. And you’re totally right, it definitely gets better the more you go.
Good to see all the More we're going to be able to do with this pedal..Have my 1/8 in.TRS MIDI cable,but waiting for the SY-200.So Glad it has MIDI capabilities now..And Presets..I'll set-up my most used patches,like you did so I don't have to scroll thru all of them..Thanks for That...I Had the SY-1... And was sending my electric guitar to my modeler from the send on the back of it..The Out from SY-1 went to a Sterio NUX Atlantic Delay and Reverb...Made a mono 1/4 in.plug on 1 end of the cable from the SY-1... To a TRS plug going into the Atlantic...Don't know if I was really getting Sterio..But it sure sounded good...Sterio Out from the Atlantic went to the mixer..Not only can you use a expression pedal...Using a Momentary switch -you can Hold a Note or Chord as long as you like...And play your electric guitar over that...Now I'll need to get a Delay with MIDI for the SY-200..Been playing MIDI guitar since I could get my hands on 1..Now You can use Any guitar you want ...AND NO Tracking Delays either ..It Doesn't get Better than That...
Your videos on the SY-200 led me to purchase it. My question is how do I set up the midi connection with the Boss GT-1000. Goal is to change patches on the GT-1000 and have a SY-200 patch assigned to that patch. Thanks and keep the videos coming!! Walt
It’s an amazing pedal! Hmm thats something I haven’t done, but I did find this article that explains how to do it. Would love to hear how you go with it. rolandus.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016410051-GT-1000-Control-of-External-MIDI-Devices-with-PATCH-MIDI
@@DaveWebbMusic they are amazing. One just have to realise that he is listening to recorded signal, not the amp in room sound. If I imagine it to work the way I think it works, I can easily run the sy200 in a loop either in parallel with the amp block or before the amp and midi does the preset switching etc
@@Taustavoima I use the GT1000 Core and the HeadRush. It was initially weird using a digital amp but man they’re good these days and I love how easy they are to use! That setup you described sounds spot on. You’ll have a lot of fun if you get one. 🤘🏼
I really Like this Pedal ..i had a Eventide H9 ..two weeks after Guarantee walked out it was just dead .. Yep it was cool and some sounds where just Great but ..i will try it with Boss ..the Gold Standard since the 70s .. Got a DD3 since more than 25 Years , and a Metal Zone II (Omg!! so good!)
I considered an H9, but decided to get only the Blackhole Reverb. Which is INCREDIBLE! I recently got the Metal Zone Waza edition. The modded setting is legit amazing.
@@DaveWebbMusic Fun fact... I also have a Morningstar MC-8 and as soon as a new cable arrives, I'll hook it up the same way you have here. I use the MC-8 to quickly access patches on my Boss GT 1000, and a Lexicon PCM 81 rack unit, and for my Prophet Rev 2 patches. So, the SY-200 is next cab off the rank :-)
Hi Dave. Nice demo. One thing I´d like to know is the signal-routing. If you have a signal chain of overdrives, wah etc, and would like to have a separate effects "pool" only for the sy-200.
Thanks mate. That’s totally doable. They’ve designed it to integrate. Basically you can route your direct guitar through the sy200 and into your overdrives etc. and send the effect level to your seperate effects. But that’s where it’s left to suggestion. I’m still playing with it myself, but I think this is what you could try. You could send the effect to a second amp or whatever. You could route the effect into a combiner. I think (will have to try) you can put your overdrives etc in the sy200 loop and change that to your direct level, and then blend the 2 together. Off the top of my head, that’s a few options you could try. Would love to hear how you go!
Saludos hermano, una pregunta. Cual es el eliminador o fuente de poder que necesita? , cuál me recomiendas por favor. No quisiera dañar mi BOSS Synthesizer 😅
Hello, good day, thank you for your excellent video. It has been very helpful to me. I have a question. I would like to know if you can help me by explaining how to configure footswitch to change banks without needing the knob. I greatly appreciate the help. Greetings from Colombia and thank you for your content.
This is why the BOSS SY-300 much more superior over the sy-1 and sy-200 because it has tons more control over your synth sounds, as you can tweak every little thing and it has built in effects to route different ways etc..
The SY-300 does look pretty great. My only issue with it is that you need the pickup. I’ve not used one, so I don’t have much to back that opinion. Lol SY-200 is amazing for what it is, especially at its price.
@@DaveWebbMusic nah the sy-300 don't use the pickups. The sy-300 is the original, the one that the sy-1 and sy-200 is based off of. It came out in like 2015.
@@DaveWebbMusic Well you can use sy-1000 with normal guitar without gk pickup and access the dynamic synth which is the same synth inside sy-300, sy-1 and sy-200 and use all of the effects and amps etc.. But in order to use the other synths and alt-tunings and other features you need gk pickup.
Thanks. I have a questions. Can i use my EV-5 expression pedal in it. In the PDF of the pedal on Boss website it's mention : You can connect a footswitch (FS-5U, FS-6 or FS-7, sold separately) to the CTL 2, 3/EXP jack, and use it to tap-input the tempo or to switch memories. Does that mean that EV-5 (Expression pedal) is not working on the SY-200? Realy important for me. But i can't find the answer anywhere. Someone can answer me ? Thanks alot !!!!
Hey dude. I reckon you can. Watch this video, I use a BOSS EV-30 th-cam.com/video/v1cFLMLuHwU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IY5yT5ktxw8_S2cW I might need to re-name this video, I couldn’t find it either… 🤔
Got some questions. 1- How does the Sound Hold function work? Can I simply play on it while holding a synth or pad sound i.e.? And when the hold mode is active, is it possible to change the preset without breaking that held sound? 2- Are the factory presets actually created with the settings that are also tweakable by the user? I mean, if I delete a patch, it's gone for good or can I simply create the same with the available settings?
Good questions! 1 - Yes, that’s exactly how it works. The effect sound holds and you can play over top with your guitar tone. I’ve not tried changing patches while holding, but I’m going to say no it won’t work. The hold function is per patch, so I’d imagine the hold wouldn’t carry over between changes. 2 - factory presets use the built in settings. You can do whatever you like with them eg. delete, duplicate, overwrite, recreate… etc.
Hi Dave, thx for your review of the SY-200. I tried out the pedal at my music dealer's today and wasn't really satisfied. Though the D. Level was set to a minimum there was always the guitar sound in the background, too. Is there a way to eliminate the guitar sound completely, e.g. when selecting an organ sound? In your examples I can't hear the guitar.
When you set the direct level to 0, it will be completely gone, and all parameters can be saved for each patch. My guess is that the direct level knob was down, but the patch level had been saved with it up. The knobs don’t relate to the level while you’re changing patches. Think of the knobs as ‘quick access’ scrolling to set a patch. Then save, and your patch is set! 🤘🏼
Can the midi jacks send midi note data, to drive external synths (or into Ableton piano roll?) - or can I play sy-200 patches via external keyboard (although not sure why one would do the latter)
They have PC / CC out & thru. Don’t know how that would go into an external synth. And it is technically designed for guitar & bass, but it’d be worth trying other instruments. 🤔 I might try out some vocal and report back.
Wait. Did you say you are using yours in your effects loop? I tried the sy 200 in the loop on my amps and got this odd volume swell fade in. The tone and feel for this pedal was much better for me in front of the amp, and without that weird fade in deal. I put it After a compressor after digitech freqout, before all drives. Bam
I am using the GT1000 Core, so it may be different. I actually haven’t tried it with a ‘real’ amp yet. But yes, that’s where it seems to work for me, because I mostly use a high gain amp setting, so this was my work around to get it after the drives. Your setup sounds spot on. And OMG!! How good is the Digitech Freqout!!! 😍
@@DaveWebbMusic on right on. I'm looking to see if anyone gets that's weird swell in a loop. I'm mostly curious. But it was this loooooong volume fade in with sy 200 in loop almost thought it was part of the effect, till every setting did it.
@@DaveWebbMusic yup, the freqout is insane! I'm 10db deaf in my left ear from going directly up to the amp to get feedback 😑. Played like that live for years. If only the freqout was around in 2003-2006. F. Every thing my kids say, what, what speak up. Speak into dad's good ear. 😆
@@jordanprysmiki5361 some of the presets do that as you’ve said, but if it’s different in the effects loop to what happens going in front, you have your answer.
@@jordanprysmiki5361 yeah getting old is not fun. Everything hurts! I was lucky, my Highschool music teacher drilled into us to be cautious with our hearing. Of course, I didn’t obey 100%, even as an adult, but that little bit of awareness has honestly helped.
Awesome! How exciting. From what I can tell, you can either add effects in the loop such as reverbs and delays to be on the SY200, or you can route either the dry or wet signal out of it, essentially splitting the signal. I haven’t played with the send/return much yet.
I am meandering through all the presets and working thru the variation. Question?…is there a way to bypass the 128 presets and work with one of the 12 effects solely? Like if I dial up to the “organ”…can I just work with the organ effect only??
It’s amazing isn’t it! I think I understand what you’re asking. None of the 128 presets are set in stone, you can change effect and dial in something completely different, eg. organ instead arpeggio and save it in that preset position. Then, say you have 5 favourites that you always use, put those in slots 1-5, or 25-30, basically wherever you want them, then in settings you can change the ‘extent’ option to scroll through that range effects. So it scroll from 1 to 5, then straight back around to 1 again. I hope that helps.
Hi Dave! Great Demos, thanks for all the hard work put in. I’m struggling to find if & how one would edit the amount of steps in the sequencer and arpeggios to 3 steps let’s say, vs 4 or 8 steps, so as to have that type of effect work with a 3/4 or 6/8 beat? Thanks for any help you can offer!
Hey mate. Thanks! Glad you’re enjoying the videos. As far as I am aware, the SY-200 sequences and arpeggios are set. It offers a few variations, but you can’t change them. I think if you’d want to create more in depth patches you would need to bump up to the SY-300. I’ve not used one, but I imagine it to be more tweakable.
@@DaveWebbMusic thank you friend! Yeah, that's what it seems like ...the 300 is where you'd 'crack it open' - not to say the 200 isnt amazing.. just wanting one of these to work with 6/8 time in a 1-2-3, 1-2-3 oscillation; they're always 2/4/6/8 steps for 4/4 time- I'm a nerd! ha Thanks again!
Hi Dave, quick question for you (or anyone else reading this that may have a solution.) If I hold out a note or chord and switch programs there is a short gap where the sound drops out while the next program loads. It's a very short gap, but enough that it is noticeable (and annoying). Is there any way to get rid of the gap (i.e. gapless switching) so that if I switch programs mid song via my midi pedal the guitar doesn't drop out for a split second? You have a section in the video where you demonstrate midi, but you stop playing each time before switching programs so I wasn't able to tell if you had the same issue. Note: the gap is there whether using a midi pedal or manually switching programs via the memory footswitch on the pedal or the memory knob, so it doesn't appear to be an issue with the midi pedal. The pedal is great, but the gap thing is enough to deter me from ever switching programs mid song live, which was a big part of why I bought it. Any help appreciated!
Hey man. As far as I can tell, you can’t get rid of the gap. End of the day, it just takes that long to load the next patch. If you have effects on, such as delay and reverb, having them spill over into the next patch will help cover it. I know that’s not ideal, but unfortunately in this case I don’t think there is a way around it. Mess with your guitar sound that’s blended in, mess with the effects, and try to get it as best you can. I know the frustration with the gaps in switching, trust me! If you’re changing mid song, change when there’s drum fill, or a big vocal section. It helps.
You can definitely use this in the FX loop. That is more or less how I’m doing it on my GT1000 Core. Send out, into the SY200, return back into the HeadRush. Then place the FX block wherever you want it. 🤘🏼
I just got one and I am using my FM3 to send MIDI PC to it. What I am struggling with is also selecting the variation. I haven't been able to get an answer on whether or not this is possible.
@@DaveWebbMusic if I get one ( which I probably will) I will respond to this comment and let you know if it works iirc seems their are more option for midi then the sy 300 had
I put the SY in the FX loop. That way it’s not going into the front of the amp, and keeps it clean. I go into a bit more detail in this video th-cam.com/video/UT7ntmNjJOY/w-d-xo.html
Question on the Mem/Ctrl 1 switch. I was reading the manual, and saw the hold function of the switch could be reassigned. Can you reassign both the tap and hold functions? Say I had a 2 button external foot switch for memory up and down, could I assign the tap to a pitch bend, and the hold to the sustain setting? Or would the tap always have to be either memory up or down?
From what I can tell, an external 2 button foot switch, 1 will always be memory up/down, but I think you can reassign the other. As for the switch on the pedal, it’s much the same. Memory up/down always, and can reassign the ctl1 button. But I did just realise that you can choose to remove the Memory up/down from that button so it will act only as the ctl1 button. Eg. Hold, pitch etc.
hello I can't set the MIDI clock output from the MX5 to the boss SY 200 how should I do it ? if i change sy200 from internal to auto the display show always the bpm and not the word midi. help thanks
It has heaps of bass effects. Much like the SY1 there a few that sound very bass like. Yeah you can create and save you’re own presets, or tweak and save any of the loaded patches. Of course you need to work within the parameters of each sound, but it’s super flexible and customizable.
I wonder if it's just the connector (mono connector). Like if you took it to a music tech and they swapped out the connector, if it'd play stereo sounds. Because the effects are stereo, right. The same effects on SY300 play stereo. Also, you probably know this, but you have to use a stereo cable (most guitar/mic 1/4 cables are mono)@@DaveWebbMusic
@@DaveWebbMusic Why is that? Because people will buy it anyway? They have competition that does run in stereo, so I'm not sure why it's a smart business move. I think it probably just didn't allow them to keep the price at $300.
@@JeighNeither Firstly I don’t understand why they didn’t make it stereo. Surely it could have been integrated in whilst keeping the cost down. And secondly I am of the opinion that most successful companies (this is not directly only at BOSS) hold off on releasing everything at once. Plus they have the SY1000 which has stereo in/out. This SY200 is so great I feel like it would pull focus too much if it had everything. This is entirely an opinion of course!
Has anyone tried recording with this pedal in front of a Boss Katana 100 amp via usb in a DAW? I am getting odd results where the dry signal is fading or popping in and out even with the dry signal saved to 0 in the pedal preset. I am new to recording, so that's not helping I'm sure haha, but I was curious. Maybe using an actual audio interface instead of the usb could help?
It does send & pass through midi messages, meaning you change presets and CC values on other gear, but you won’t for example be able to record the arpeggiated midi notes into a DAW. It’s just PC & CC values, much like any other midi guitar pedal.
I’ve definitely tested passing midi through. Works great. I haven’t specifically done messages from the SY200, but the option in the pedal is the same as any other BOSS unit. As for sending and recording midi notes, I don’t see how it would work. The midi in/out is designed to send messages, not notes. And the main outputs are audio only.
Sorry for criticising your work but a cartoon filter making everything muddy when showing pedal wasn't the best choice in my opinion. Other than that, amazing information there.
Hello, I have Boss sy 200. Knob D. The level is saved in all matches automatically depending on the position of the knob. But, knob E.level in all patches is displayed at 50% regardless of the position of the knob. Is this a bug? Or am I doing something wrong? Maybe you need to change something in the menu? Please help!
So, when you write the patch to the preset, the knob value you set is saved, and will be recalled at that value because it is a preset. The value will change when you turn the knob, but you will need to save it again if you want it to stay that way. Think of the knobs as an easy way to adjust the presets you save.
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When I bought this, I thought I would be using it to exclusively make synth sounds but it didn't work out that way.
Really, the real strength of this pedal for me, is mixing low levels of synth sounds in with the guitar signal.
It becomes it's own unidentifiable thing. Sounds like guitar but yet there is something a little strange about the sound of it.
I think you've discovered the key to using pedals in a way to make you sound unique; If all you go for is out of the box sounds, it might sound good, but It also sounds exactly like everybody else that bought the same pedal.
Your videos on this pedal are really the best out here! There are few videos that feel like the reviewer has spent much time with the pedal and feels like the more time you spend with this one, the better.
Thanks man! I do try, but I really appreciate that.
I do think that too many others aren’t discussing how to actually apply it to your rig. For me, that’s been the tricky bit.
And you’re totally right, it definitely gets better the more you go.
The send of the FX oop acts as a dry out or wet out so you cam use it in stereo!
Best vid on this. Shows how to use, not just sounds
Good to see all the More we're going to be able to do with this pedal..Have my 1/8 in.TRS MIDI cable,but waiting for the SY-200.So Glad it has MIDI capabilities now..And Presets..I'll set-up my most used patches,like you did so I don't have to scroll thru all of them..Thanks for That...I Had the SY-1... And was sending my electric guitar to my modeler from the send on the back of it..The Out from SY-1 went to a Sterio NUX Atlantic Delay and Reverb...Made a mono 1/4 in.plug on 1 end of the cable from the SY-1... To a TRS plug going into the Atlantic...Don't know if I was really getting Sterio..But it sure sounded good...Sterio Out from the Atlantic went to the mixer..Not only can you use a expression pedal...Using a Momentary switch -you can Hold a Note or Chord as long as you like...And play your electric guitar over that...Now I'll need to get a Delay with MIDI for the SY-200..Been playing MIDI guitar since I could get my hands on 1..Now You can use Any guitar you want ...AND NO Tracking Delays either ..It Doesn't get Better than That...
I know! It’s basically everything the SY-1 should have been.
Your setup sounds brilliant. End of the day, if it sounds good, that’s the point. 🤘🏼
Your videos on the SY-200 led me to purchase it. My question is how do I set up the midi connection with the Boss GT-1000. Goal is to change patches on the GT-1000 and have a SY-200 patch assigned to that patch.
Thanks and keep the videos coming!!
Walt
It’s an amazing pedal!
Hmm thats something I haven’t done, but I did find this article that explains how to do it.
Would love to hear how you go with it.
rolandus.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016410051-GT-1000-Control-of-External-MIDI-Devices-with-PATCH-MIDI
How did your process go in regards to mixing the GT with the SY? Do you set different midi control buttons to recall patches?
Hey man! Since my reply above, I have put this video together. Hope it helps.
th-cam.com/video/v1cFLMLuHwU/w-d-xo.html
Fractal FM9 & this. Sounds facinating 😁
I haven’t used the Fractal FM9, or any Fractal gear for that matter. One day I’m sure I will get the chance.
@@DaveWebbMusic they are amazing. One just have to realise that he is listening to recorded signal, not the amp in room sound. If I imagine it to work the way I think it works, I can easily run the sy200 in a loop either in parallel with the amp block or before the amp and midi does the preset switching etc
@@Taustavoima I use the GT1000 Core and the HeadRush. It was initially weird using a digital amp but man they’re good these days and I love how easy they are to use!
That setup you described sounds spot on. You’ll have a lot of fun if you get one. 🤘🏼
Synth players all out of jobs after this pedal released lol
Yeah... No.
I really Like this Pedal ..i had a Eventide H9 ..two weeks after Guarantee walked out it was just dead ..
Yep it was cool and some sounds where just Great but ..i will try it with Boss ..the Gold Standard since the 70s ..
Got a DD3 since more than 25 Years , and a Metal Zone II (Omg!! so good!)
I considered an H9, but decided to get only the Blackhole Reverb. Which is INCREDIBLE!
I recently got the Metal Zone Waza edition. The modded setting is legit amazing.
Great summary. Well done and thanks
Thanks man. These are obviously only a few of many. Pretty stoked with this new version.
@@DaveWebbMusic Fun fact... I also have a Morningstar MC-8 and as soon as a new cable arrives, I'll hook it up the same way you have here. I use the MC-8 to quickly access patches on my Boss GT 1000, and a Lexicon PCM 81 rack unit, and for my Prophet Rev 2 patches. So, the SY-200 is next cab off the rank :-)
@@stuartgonsal8443 dude! How amazing is the MC8?!?
Sounds like you know your stuff. I’m flattered that you’re taking my tips on board. Cheers mate. 🤘🏼
Great Review!
Hi Dave. Nice demo. One thing I´d like to know is the signal-routing. If you have a signal chain of overdrives, wah etc, and would like to have a separate effects "pool" only for the sy-200.
Thanks mate.
That’s totally doable. They’ve designed it to integrate.
Basically you can route your direct guitar through the sy200 and into your overdrives etc. and send the effect level to your seperate effects.
But that’s where it’s left to suggestion. I’m still playing with it myself, but I think this is what you could try.
You could send the effect to a second amp or whatever.
You could route the effect into a combiner.
I think (will have to try) you can put your overdrives etc in the sy200 loop and change that to your direct level, and then blend the 2 together.
Off the top of my head, that’s a few options you could try. Would love to hear how you go!
Saludos hermano, una pregunta. Cual es el eliminador o fuente de poder que necesita? , cuál me recomiendas por favor.
No quisiera dañar mi BOSS Synthesizer 😅
Hello, good day, thank you for your excellent video. It has been very helpful to me. I have a question. I would like to know if you can help me by explaining how to configure footswitch to change banks without needing the knob. I greatly appreciate the help. Greetings from Colombia and thank you for your content.
Nice intro!
This is why the BOSS SY-300 much more superior over the sy-1 and sy-200 because it has tons more control over your synth sounds, as you can tweak every little thing and it has built in effects to route different ways etc..
The SY-300 does look pretty great.
My only issue with it is that you need the pickup. I’ve not used one, so I don’t have much to back that opinion. Lol
SY-200 is amazing for what it is, especially at its price.
@@DaveWebbMusic nah the sy-300 don't use the pickups. The sy-300 is the original, the one that the sy-1 and sy-200 is based off of. It came out in like 2015.
Aaah yep yep. I was thinking of the SY-1000.
I stand corrected. Valid! 🙌🏼
@@DaveWebbMusic Well you can use sy-1000 with normal guitar without gk pickup and access the dynamic synth which is the same synth inside sy-300, sy-1 and sy-200 and use all of the effects and amps etc.. But in order to use the other synths and alt-tunings and other features you need gk pickup.
Whats the best one then out of the sy 300, 1, 200 and 1000?
Thanks. I have a questions.
Can i use my EV-5 expression pedal in it. In the PDF of the pedal on Boss website it's mention :
You can connect a footswitch (FS-5U, FS-6 or FS-7, sold separately)
to the CTL 2, 3/EXP jack, and use it to tap-input the tempo or to
switch memories.
Does that mean that EV-5 (Expression pedal) is not working on the SY-200? Realy important for me. But i can't find the answer anywhere. Someone can answer me ? Thanks alot !!!!
Hey dude. I reckon you can. Watch this video, I use a BOSS EV-30 th-cam.com/video/v1cFLMLuHwU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IY5yT5ktxw8_S2cW
I might need to re-name this video, I couldn’t find it either… 🤔
Got some questions.
1- How does the Sound Hold function work? Can I simply play on it while holding a synth or pad sound i.e.? And when the hold mode is active, is it possible to change the preset without breaking that held sound?
2- Are the factory presets actually created with the settings that are also tweakable by the user? I mean, if I delete a patch, it's gone for good or can I simply create the same with the available settings?
Good questions!
1 - Yes, that’s exactly how it works. The effect sound holds and you can play over top with your guitar tone.
I’ve not tried changing patches while holding, but I’m going to say no it won’t work. The hold function is per patch, so I’d imagine the hold wouldn’t carry over between changes.
2 - factory presets use the built in settings. You can do whatever you like with them eg. delete, duplicate, overwrite, recreate… etc.
@@DaveWebbMusic cheers much!
I got the sy1 love it so much butt gonna upgrade to the sy-200
Yeah it’s way more flexible, and much better for using live.
Sweet
Hi Dave, thx for your review of the SY-200. I tried out the pedal at my music dealer's today and wasn't really satisfied. Though the D. Level was set to a minimum there was always the guitar sound in the background, too. Is there a way to eliminate the guitar sound completely, e.g. when selecting an organ sound? In your examples I can't hear the guitar.
When you set the direct level to 0, it will be completely gone, and all parameters can be saved for each patch.
My guess is that the direct level knob was down, but the patch level had been saved with it up. The knobs don’t relate to the level while you’re changing patches.
Think of the knobs as ‘quick access’ scrolling to set a patch. Then save, and your patch is set! 🤘🏼
Can the midi jacks send midi note data, to drive external synths (or into Ableton piano roll?) - or can I play sy-200 patches via external keyboard (although not sure why one would do the latter)
They have PC / CC out & thru. Don’t know how that would go into an external synth.
And it is technically designed for guitar & bass, but it’d be worth trying other instruments. 🤔
I might try out some vocal and report back.
Wait. Did you say you are using yours in your effects loop?
I tried the sy 200 in the loop on my amps and got this odd volume swell fade in. The tone and feel for this pedal was much better for me in front of the amp, and without that weird fade in deal. I put it After a compressor after digitech freqout, before all drives. Bam
I am using the GT1000 Core, so it may be different. I actually haven’t tried it with a ‘real’ amp yet.
But yes, that’s where it seems to work for me, because I mostly use a high gain amp setting, so this was my work around to get it after the drives.
Your setup sounds spot on.
And OMG!! How good is the Digitech Freqout!!! 😍
@@DaveWebbMusic on right on. I'm looking to see if anyone gets that's weird swell in a loop. I'm mostly curious. But it was this loooooong volume fade in with sy 200 in loop almost thought it was part of the effect, till every setting did it.
@@DaveWebbMusic yup, the freqout is insane! I'm 10db deaf in my left ear from going directly up to the amp to get feedback 😑. Played like that live for years. If only the freqout was around in 2003-2006. F. Every thing my kids say, what, what speak up. Speak into dad's good ear. 😆
@@jordanprysmiki5361 some of the presets do that as you’ve said, but if it’s different in the effects loop to what happens going in front, you have your answer.
@@jordanprysmiki5361 yeah getting old is not fun. Everything hurts!
I was lucky, my Highschool music teacher drilled into us to be cautious with our hearing. Of course, I didn’t obey 100%, even as an adult, but that little bit of awareness has honestly helped.
Great video…my SY 200 came today…how to you use the send/return jacks on the pedal??
Awesome! How exciting.
From what I can tell, you can either add effects in the loop such as reverbs and delays to be on the SY200, or you can route either the dry or wet signal out of it, essentially splitting the signal.
I haven’t played with the send/return much yet.
@@DaveWebbMusic thank you … this is such an awesome pedal! And thanks again for your videos!!
I am meandering through all the presets and working thru the variation. Question?…is there a way to bypass the 128 presets and work with one of the 12 effects solely? Like if I dial up to the “organ”…can I just work with the organ effect only??
It’s amazing isn’t it!
I think I understand what you’re asking.
None of the 128 presets are set in stone, you can change effect and dial in something completely different, eg. organ instead arpeggio and save it in that preset position.
Then, say you have 5 favourites that you always use, put those in slots 1-5, or 25-30, basically wherever you want them, then in settings you can change the ‘extent’ option to scroll through that range effects. So it scroll from 1 to 5, then straight back around to 1 again.
I hope that helps.
@@DaveWebbMusic thanks again for your help! That makes sense! So much to do…….!!!
Hi Dave!
Great Demos, thanks for all the hard work put in. I’m struggling to find if & how one would edit the amount of steps in the sequencer and arpeggios to 3 steps let’s say, vs 4 or 8 steps, so as to have that type of effect work with a 3/4 or 6/8 beat?
Thanks for any help you can offer!
Hey mate. Thanks! Glad you’re enjoying the videos.
As far as I am aware, the SY-200 sequences and arpeggios are set. It offers a few variations, but you can’t change them.
I think if you’d want to create more in depth patches you would need to bump up to the SY-300. I’ve not used one, but I imagine it to be more tweakable.
@@DaveWebbMusic thank you friend!
Yeah, that's what it seems like ...the 300 is where you'd 'crack it open' - not to say the 200 isnt amazing.. just wanting one of these to work with 6/8 time in a 1-2-3, 1-2-3 oscillation; they're always 2/4/6/8 steps for 4/4 time- I'm a nerd! ha
Thanks again!
Hi Dave, quick question for you (or anyone else reading this that may have a solution.) If I hold out a note or chord and switch programs there is a short gap where the sound drops out while the next program loads. It's a very short gap, but enough that it is noticeable (and annoying). Is there any way to get rid of the gap (i.e. gapless switching) so that if I switch programs mid song via my midi pedal the guitar doesn't drop out for a split second? You have a section in the video where you demonstrate midi, but you stop playing each time before switching programs so I wasn't able to tell if you had the same issue. Note: the gap is there whether using a midi pedal or manually switching programs via the memory footswitch on the pedal or the memory knob, so it doesn't appear to be an issue with the midi pedal. The pedal is great, but the gap thing is enough to deter me from ever switching programs mid song live, which was a big part of why I bought it. Any help appreciated!
Hey man. As far as I can tell, you can’t get rid of the gap. End of the day, it just takes that long to load the next patch.
If you have effects on, such as delay and reverb, having them spill over into the next patch will help cover it.
I know that’s not ideal, but unfortunately in this case I don’t think there is a way around it.
Mess with your guitar sound that’s blended in, mess with the effects, and try to get it as best you can.
I know the frustration with the gaps in switching, trust me! If you’re changing mid song, change when there’s drum fill, or a big vocal section. It helps.
Can you run this through the FX Loop on the Headrush and into two 112s Headrush PAs? Then get you Reverbs etc that way.
You can definitely use this in the FX loop. That is more or less how I’m doing it on my GT1000 Core. Send out, into the SY200, return back into the HeadRush. Then place the FX block wherever you want it. 🤘🏼
You can’t trigger external synthesizers with that midi?
SY200 can send PC & CC messages.
Watch this video, it should help th-cam.com/video/BXgnrBbphL8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2FpcEIXJ3gE0Ehos
Can we get a video of the SY-200 and GT-1000 CORE together? I’m thinking about getting an SY-200, so I need some demos of the two. 😂
th-cam.com/video/v1cFLMLuHwU/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/UT7ntmNjJOY/w-d-xo.html
Got you covered. 😎
Can you make an video on how to make a preset then save ..just a request coz I'm confused thanks a lot sir anyway and God bless...
This video here explains how to exactly that.
Hope it helps th-cam.com/video/-zBYMQphmEo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zc8AJXLOTwC9hImN
@@DaveWebbMusic many thanks to you sir I salute ..💙
Hi! How do you change the memory using the footswitch? In my case cannot establish this function
to be able to go up or down
Watch this one from about 9min. That should answer your question. 🤘🏼 th-cam.com/video/BXgnrBbphL8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QYe4mRPkoBBgUD1o
I’d like to hear strings, brass, piano etc without phase etc at 100% wet mix
I just got one and I am using my FM3 to send MIDI PC to it. What I am struggling with is also selecting the variation. I haven't been able to get an answer on whether or not this is possible.
th-cam.com/video/BXgnrBbphL8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=rbZa3dqYx6J4p_WP
Watch this one. Explains all the midi related things 🤘🏼
can you use a 3.5 midi to standard midi adaptor for plgging into other ext synth modules like deepmind12D?
Can someone please answer this for me???!! Can this synth send MIDI notes thru Midi out?
nice to see someone demo a pedal with a les paul and not some 8000 dollar telecaster clone
It’s all about the Les Paul here! 🤘🏼
And occasionally ESP.
@@DaveWebbMusic ESP makes great guitars
Is that an $8000 les paul? 😂
Personal preference. Butt out.
Hmm one of my guitars has an xy ouchpad that seems midi info I wonder if it I could set it to take that to control the expression pedal functions
Definitely couldn’t hurt to try. I know I’d like to see that.
@@DaveWebbMusic if I get one ( which I probably will) I will respond to this comment and let you know if it works iirc seems their are more option for midi then the sy 300 had
Hey Dave, how did you keep the SY signal clean while using gain on the guitar?
I put the SY in the FX loop. That way it’s not going into the front of the amp, and keeps it clean.
I go into a bit more detail in this video th-cam.com/video/UT7ntmNjJOY/w-d-xo.html
@@DaveWebbMusic Thanks heaps Dave.
Question on the Mem/Ctrl 1 switch. I was reading the manual, and saw the hold function of the switch could be reassigned. Can you reassign both the tap and hold functions? Say I had a 2 button external foot switch for memory up and down, could I assign the tap to a pitch bend, and the hold to the sustain setting? Or would the tap always have to be either memory up or down?
From what I can tell, an external 2 button foot switch, 1 will always be memory up/down, but I think you can reassign the other.
As for the switch on the pedal, it’s much the same. Memory up/down always, and can reassign the ctl1 button.
But I did just realise that you can choose to remove the Memory up/down from that button so it will act only as the ctl1 button. Eg. Hold, pitch etc.
Can you separate sounds by string or by frequency range (similar to the OC-5)?
Now would be cool. But unfortunately not.
I think the bigger versions have that technology in them though..?
Does it have piano, flute or sax??? I want to replicate video game music
No it doesn’t have those. It’s more of your ‘classic’ synth effects. You’d be able to get some kind of video game sounds though. Would be really cool.
hello I can't set the MIDI clock output from the MX5 to the boss SY 200 how should I do it ? if i change sy200 from internal to auto the display show always the bpm and not the word midi. help thanks
Do you have midi out selected on your MX5?
@@DaveWebbMusic yes. I’m able to change preset in sy 200 via mx5 but not midi clock
Does it have electric bass and can you make your own presets or is that the sy1000 only?
It has heaps of bass effects. Much like the SY1 there a few that sound very bass like.
Yeah you can create and save you’re own presets, or tweak and save any of the loaded patches. Of course you need to work within the parameters of each sound, but it’s super flexible and customizable.
Does it have stereo out (I know it just has one out jack, but is it stereo)?
Unfortunately no. I was really hoping it was but no, it isn’t.
I wonder if it's just the connector (mono connector). Like if you took it to a music tech and they swapped out the connector, if it'd play stereo sounds. Because the effects are stereo, right. The same effects on SY300 play stereo. Also, you probably know this, but you have to use a stereo cable (most guitar/mic 1/4 cables are mono)@@DaveWebbMusic
Can you set the sequencer to triplets or 6/8.
Can I set the BPM to the same as Boss GX100
I don’t think you can change the sequence, but you can definitely sync to an external BPM via midi. GX100 has midi in/out so it will work no dramas!
It does blow my mind that they wouldn’t make this thing stereo,
I know right! But let’s be honest, it’s a smart business move…
@@DaveWebbMusic Why is that? Because people will buy it anyway? They have competition that does run in stereo, so I'm not sure why it's a smart business move. I think it probably just didn't allow them to keep the price at $300.
@@JeighNeither Firstly I don’t understand why they didn’t make it stereo. Surely it could have been integrated in whilst keeping the cost down.
And secondly I am of the opinion that most successful companies (this is not directly only at BOSS) hold off on releasing everything at once. Plus they have the SY1000 which has stereo in/out.
This SY200 is so great I feel like it would pull focus too much if it had everything.
This is entirely an opinion of course!
It has a midi clock?! SOLD
Haha right?!?!
Has anyone tried recording with this pedal in front of a Boss Katana 100 amp via usb in a DAW? I am getting odd results where the dry signal is fading or popping in and out even with the dry signal saved to 0 in the pedal preset. I am new to recording, so that's not helping I'm sure haha, but I was curious. Maybe using an actual audio interface instead of the usb could help?
The first thing I do on synths is turn off the reverb and delay.
I know the sy200 excepts midi note input but does it also SEND midi notes out?
It does send & pass through midi messages, meaning you change presets and CC values on other gear, but you won’t for example be able to record the arpeggiated midi notes into a DAW. It’s just PC & CC values, much like any other midi guitar pedal.
@@DaveWebbMusic Have u tested this?
I’ve definitely tested passing midi through. Works great.
I haven’t specifically done messages from the SY200, but the option in the pedal is the same as any other BOSS unit.
As for sending and recording midi notes, I don’t see how it would work. The midi in/out is designed to send messages, not notes. And the main outputs are audio only.
@@DaveWebbMusic midi in works. Check it out on TH-cam
Yes, midi messages in does work. I use my GT-1000 and a Morningstar midi controller to change the SY-200. I have a few videos where I demo this.
Sorry for criticising your work but a cartoon filter making everything muddy when showing pedal wasn't the best choice in my opinion. Other than that, amazing information there.
Yeah, it was a choice at the time. Needless to say it doesn’t get used much anymore.
Hello, I have Boss sy 200. Knob D. The level is saved in all matches automatically depending on the position of the knob. But, knob E.level in all patches is displayed at 50% regardless of the position of the knob. Is this a bug? Or am I doing something wrong? Maybe you need to change something in the menu? Please help!
So, when you write the patch to the preset, the knob value you set is saved, and will be recalled at that value because it is a preset. The value will change when you turn the knob, but you will need to save it again if you want it to stay that way.
Think of the knobs as an easy way to adjust the presets you save.
Dave you look like Giovani Ribisi.
Lol well that’s a first!
That a real les paul?
I wouldn't judge you if not.
It sure is! Gibson Les Paul Standard in Mojave burst, 2019 model.
@@DaveWebbMusic oh dang. I never seen one like that
@@jordanprysmiki5361 yeah she’s a real beauty! And I actually think it’s a 2018 model 🤔 if that matters haha
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