WHERE ARE ALL THE SKILL CHAMPS IN TOPLANE?

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  • @lannis3324
    @lannis3324 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    in my opinion a skilled champion is a Champion that has flaws and u can still pull shit with it

    • @thereaper7926
      @thereaper7926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      The description you gave can be exploited in a way,for example,they say "fight riven when her cooldowns are down",but that's practically never,or bully fiora early,bcs she is a scaling champion,but she can borderline out bully darius in the early

    • @highnoon2844
      @highnoon2844 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@thereaper7926riven cooldowns are not short early and fiora darius is a skill MU

    • @labirintocomplesso1273
      @labirintocomplesso1273 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@thereaper7926 Riven in early have good cooldowns , armor counter her pretty well , but i get what you mean , against certain squishy champion she is just op and you can't go near her

    • @thereaper7926
      @thereaper7926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@highnoon2844 Darius/fiora is indeed a skill match up,but a supposedly late game scaling mobile duelist champ,being able to trade blow for blow into a slow lane bully is kind of nuts, conceptually

    • @maxgunnarsson6506
      @maxgunnarsson6506 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@thereaper7926 but the thing with fiora is that she is supposed to be good in the 1v1 as she is a very weak teamfight champ. If anything you should take use jax as a comparison instead of fiora. strong early, strong late, strong in team fights

  • @MREmrdzcn
    @MREmrdzcn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    You can't talk about skilled champions without taking into account skill floors and ceilings.
    Fiora has a low floor, meaning people who are new to the champion can still perform and be useful. She also has a high ceiling, meaning the best Fiora's can pull off some insane shit (stuff like proccing ult in less than a second)
    Zoe has a really high skill floor; it's hard for people to pick up the champion, your experience and knowledge from other champions don't translate really well, and you need to be at least decent at her in order the perform even a little.
    Darius has a really low skill ceiling. Yes you'll learn matchups and macro and stuff, but mechanically you'll hit your peak in 20 games.
    Fiora is a "skilled champion" not because it's hard to be useful with her, but because it's hard to perfectly pilot her. Same goes for Gragas, Aatrox etc.

    • @icysharpsmormor6473
      @icysharpsmormor6473 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Darius low skill ceiling? Absolutely not, there's unbelievably many different unique things to learn for darius that sets apart a good to a bad darius so unbelievably much

    • @EddyConejo
      @EddyConejo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Darius has a lower ceiling than the average champion but I don't think it's as low as people make it seem. I hate him so much but there's plenty of ways you can fuck up when playing as him.

    • @robertotescione9427
      @robertotescione9427 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@icysharpsmormor6473Darius main here lol

  • @rastrafack4336
    @rastrafack4336 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    In my eyes, Fiora is a skillful champion, just very unbalanced. You can definitely tell a good Fiora from a bad one. But the fact that her vitals do true damage based on max hp is insane and makes people who normally don't have the skill to play her, have some success with the champ.

    • @Profane_Hydra
      @Profane_Hydra 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bahahahahhahaa. No she ain't

    • @BartMK
      @BartMK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@Profane_Hydra you are objectively wrong dude
      I despise the champ as much as others but the guy is right

    • @labirintocomplesso1273
      @labirintocomplesso1273 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@BartMK I don't really know , fiora for sure have a gigantic skill ceiling , but her skill floor is Not high , you can be good enough to win lane with fiora without even exploiting 100% of her kit

    • @ultimatesonic47
      @ultimatesonic47 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      she is not, the biggest problem with fiora as a "skillful" champ is that she can't miss anything other than the parry wich means you can only outplay her if her damage is not enough to kill you or if you can kill her before she outputs all her damage

    • @Reptilian_Bunny
      @Reptilian_Bunny 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@labirintocomplesso1273 if you need 100% of a champion just to win lane that doesn't mean it's skillful, it means you're a masochist

  • @zacharygagnon6488
    @zacharygagnon6488 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    skill champions are defined by outplay potential, not if the champ is hard or not imo. for example the base of riven, zed, yasuo, lee sin and irelia are pretty simple, but good players who master these champions can pull off insane plays on these unlike a champ like garen where even if you’re the greatest garen its still always q spin to win and ult

  • @panagiotismantas3520
    @panagiotismantas3520 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have the same problem with sup players .I main thresh and its very difficult to play him perfectly and im versing champs lile soraka and lulu who dont have a single skillshot and they xin lane without using thier brain cause they play this champs .And because some people who played thresh got very nice and mastered the champ theu are nerding him very bad .

  • @Alaaalaa-tu6uu
    @Alaaalaa-tu6uu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Best player ❤❤

  • @sedarium5307
    @sedarium5307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nice minion farming tool, i mean, W spell.

  • @kotwczapce1742
    @kotwczapce1742 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i agree, i used to belive there are some like azir for example, after playing this game for so long and almost every single champion i honestly think there are no hard champions in league

  • @demividatebote7276
    @demividatebote7276 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    8:00 SIIIUUUU

  • @Jacob-ldk
    @Jacob-ldk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn he a better channel

  • @lbdubz
    @lbdubz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:33 good lulu r

  • @ibrahim5463
    @ibrahim5463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Meta toplaners in season 14 are all no skills no interaction laners, you can't even trade with them

    • @BartMK
      @BartMK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its the same as s13, meta didnt change in top

    • @maxgunnarsson6506
      @maxgunnarsson6506 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BartMK udyr? Reksai?

    • @martinkaradjov6153
      @martinkaradjov6153 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      in emerald its the opposite, u haveto play vs darius garen mordekaiser aatrox all cancer strong champs

    • @tranducquang5912
      @tranducquang5912 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@martinkaradjov6153you want to play vs vayne top ? TF top ? Actually good jayce player ?. Laning bruiser vs bruiser is the top lane fantasy

  • @RAAYBARA-kq5tg
    @RAAYBARA-kq5tg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:20 great portuguese

  • @MesaGamer503
    @MesaGamer503 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    never ask a man did he wins gank coin flips 💀

  • @user-up3lu8od4l
    @user-up3lu8od4l 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Naayil i love you

  • @r3dwx957
    @r3dwx957 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:50 AMBATAKAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

  • @monsterks993
    @monsterks993 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if Naayil started playing fiora he would be hardstuck diamond at best XD

  • @arntry8072
    @arntry8072 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Fiora a skill champ" literary just does the level 1 cheese.

    • @sofokleiro
      @sofokleiro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just dont walk up instantly lol. He was watching his jg instead of paying attention to the lane. His fault for getting cheesed.

  • @ikac9184
    @ikac9184 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just play singed you don't need to lane against your opponent lol

  • @ql3s209
    @ql3s209 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do yall say about Shen, us he skill or not?

  • @cabbage4259
    @cabbage4259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    fiora Q isn't an auto attack reset, but still counts as an auto attack, so you can Q in and auto attack right after. That's the disgusting part.

  • @gurlock1919
    @gurlock1919 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    but u did won lv 1, them walked up to take free hits

  • @easy481
    @easy481 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    bro is playing aatrox and complaining about unskilled champs

  • @Cgwi
    @Cgwi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yasuo is skilled

  • @adriangottmann
    @adriangottmann 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Skillchamps do exist, nuffin to belive in or not.
    But for a good mechanical player it wont matter that much.
    Irelking f/e can pick any champion any time and is insanely good at it. Even tho he‘s a onetrick.
    My silver friend on the other hand just tried akali ( easy champ for me) and it feels like rocketsience to him.

  • @Kalipoupe
    @Kalipoupe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kayn Naafiri Illaoi top my 3 champ what does yall think abt that pick ?

  • @quaff4870
    @quaff4870 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fiora is skilled wdym

  • @gglmao2648
    @gglmao2648 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But how TF Fiora is unskilled champ?...

  • @ZeDustXIV
    @ZeDustXIV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    fiora dificult??? autopilot q, w is the only skill shot and its not even hard to land, e its 2 AA and r its point and clic

  • @ReputabIe
    @ReputabIe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well if we will talk about unskilled champions we shouldn't pass sett for that,he is too broken with his flipping w and doesn't die

    • @dukenintendo
      @dukenintendo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      the secret technique of not standing in the middle.

    • @ReputabIe
      @ReputabIe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dukenintendo e w he'll knock out for millisecond or stun u if there's a minion and also he can flash, in team fights he just should flash e and w then its over gg

    • @TheLastAatroxMain
      @TheLastAatroxMain 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dukenintendo same thing works for aatrox but bronze players rather stand still and call him broken while building no armor or grevious wounds.

    • @Phoenix-fw7bm
      @Phoenix-fw7bm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sett is pretty weak wdym?

  • @astrsychev9333
    @astrsychev9333 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:26 - are you a skilled man becouse youre champion is broken or are you a on broken champion becouse youre skilled.

  • @NicolasRegly19
    @NicolasRegly19 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    U don't hate THIS Fiora, u hate Fiora. Every Fiora plays like this. They pick a stupid strong champ, lose de lane somehow and start split pushing all the game. It's sad, but it's true

  • @dainpiagne4636
    @dainpiagne4636 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    to me a skilled champion is one who has to THINK to make a move (kill, trade, invade,push) and cant go blindly in(unless fed), who CAN get punished when the player plays bad and will feel the consequence of such punishment because it sets them back. WW top, malphite with its shitass q, olaf , yorick, VOLI, gwen are all unskilled on this. They can either mindlessly fight/push and go away when they want or can be 0/10 and still be relevant and extremely strong before even reaching ur cs or overall gold income.
    If that's what's called scaling, then it's too often unfair, what's even the point of the laning phase mattering this much.
    Also, becoming immensely strong or unkillable with just the first item is wild in this season, but i guess that has more to do with champion scalings and the items. All imma say is that tank meta never ended

    • @programix8432
      @programix8432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      with that definition garen is a skilled champ because you do have to think before you go in

    • @dainpiagne4636
      @dainpiagne4636 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@programix8432 ok i mean thinking in the sense of almost 'needing' a strategy for what u'll do, because you know you're not op and can get punished if u fail.
      Unskilled champs and broken tanks often have an aura of overpoweredness, of being able to ignore maaany rules. I've never seen ww or voli top managing waves. Only time it happened it was him mirroring me as i just did it to them before, so i was teaching those dogs in the meantime too.
      They obv have to think to be able to move their champs, but can freely ignore up to a good point strategy, caution, build and gameplan adaptation, cds, matchups and fed enemies they'll suddenly overpower with 1-2 items, without having to outsmart them in combat.
      Garen can go 0/15, lose both towers and still be a thorn to the side with splitpushing and his R

    • @programix8432
      @programix8432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dainpiagne4636 well you could say that about almost every champ, irelia fiora riven trynda morde yone shen and many more can do something that makes them annoying to deal with even if they are giga behind

    • @bigmc9595
      @bigmc9595 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MALPHITE HAHAHAAH

    • @dainpiagne4636
      @dainpiagne4636 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigmc9595 stupid ass rock

  • @GvancaGvanca-rs5em
    @GvancaGvanca-rs5em 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THERE IS NO SKILLED CHAMPIONS IN THSI GAME, THERE IS HARD MECHANICS AND COMBOS AND FIORA DOES TAKE ONE

  • @Profane_Hydra
    @Profane_Hydra 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pyke is actually doing good midlane this season. You just got a bad Pyke. Unfortunately

    • @tranducquang5912
      @tranducquang5912 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pyke is shit into akshan. He does almost every pyke do but better. Even scales better though both have terrible scaling

    • @Profane_Hydra
      @Profane_Hydra 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @tranducquang5912 that's crazy because I keep winnin against them

  • @fernuh2356
    @fernuh2356 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    bro plays aatrox and talks about skill xdd i can’t

    • @theghostoftheuchiha1430
      @theghostoftheuchiha1430 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aatrox need to hit 3 Q-s perfectly to execute, Fiora just autos and Q-s you to death.

    • @theghostoftheuchiha1430
      @theghostoftheuchiha1430 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is a little bit diffy my friend

    • @elpaxito
      @elpaxito 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@theghostoftheuchiha1430Aatrox kills without having to correctly hit the 3 Q-s

    • @theghostoftheuchiha1430
      @theghostoftheuchiha1430 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@elpaxito only if he is fed af and he at least needs ulti, Fiora doesn't need to be fed for that.

    • @theghostoftheuchiha1430
      @theghostoftheuchiha1430 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elpaxito also profane is just broken item and works on every ad champ.

  • @programix8432
    @programix8432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i like you naayil but no way you call fiora unskilled while playing aatrox

    • @tranducquang5912
      @tranducquang5912 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He called aatrox braindead too. He is just saying people overestimate how difficult fiora is. She just has insane ceiling. Not floor. She is not irelia

    • @programix8432
      @programix8432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tranducquang5912 sure but she isnt easy, he acts like shes giga broken while absolutly destroying one in the video

    • @tranducquang5912
      @tranducquang5912 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@programix8432 the guy is braindead. Ignoring every principle of trading pattern in the lane, giga overextend, can’t dodge a single spell. Ofc he will get shit on

    • @xRG1x
      @xRG1x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@programix8432cause the one in the video doesn’t count. Showed no skill

    • @programix8432
      @programix8432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xRG1x yeah they all say that. Fiora is OP but if you every win against her the player is dogshit. Using that argument every single champ i ever lost against is giga broken and every time i win the enemy top is just dogshit

  • @hoeboutthat4290
    @hoeboutthat4290 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think a great example of skill champion is vel koz - if you dont hit everything you do nothin, but if you do hit, then the person is gone.

    • @Reptilian_Bunny
      @Reptilian_Bunny 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That's not a skill champion, that's literally the -current- worst mage in the game and the only reason someone would play it is either because they like the design or straight up enjoy the moral entitlement of saying "Oh i got shat on but at least i'm not a meta abuser 😢😢😢"

    • @jaqworld7518
      @jaqworld7518 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Reptilian_Bunny Or they one tricked them and just dont wanna swap off, i got some friends like that

    • @Bread011
      @Bread011 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Reptilian_Bunny or theyre an azzapp wannabee

    • @atean
      @atean 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Reptilian_Bunny velkoz as support has great lane and roaming potential, given that you are good with it.

  • @ultrarageman2956
    @ultrarageman2956 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree that trynda is unskilled but olaf takes skill

    • @BartMK
      @BartMK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Olaf takes skill, brother its a 1 hand champ, it doesnt

    • @magickarthus1126
      @magickarthus1126 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Olaf takes skill? LOL

    • @labirintocomplesso1273
      @labirintocomplesso1273 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please i hope this is satire

  • @anrivarshanidze8646
    @anrivarshanidze8646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like shit.
    Seeing even you no longer playing the bruiser. How useless has that build become.

  • @jafargames1196
    @jafargames1196 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only skilled champions in this game is yasuo and zed alp other need no skill to play

  • @TrixMur
    @TrixMur 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    skill champs are not that much universall and garanted to be usefull like moust of brainded skarners/orrns/malph champs

  • @bananskal1921
    @bananskal1921 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    if you play other champs you realize that aatrox is very easy mechanically

    • @heltrom716
      @heltrom716 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He is, my friend picked him up in 12 games or so, but countering his playstyle is as easy. Unlike other toplaners who may be as easy or easier and require you to be a far better player to win against them.

    • @ichbins8088
      @ichbins8088 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the only "hard" part is to manage your matchup and the transition into midgame well
      Aatrox loses most of his matchups a little bit and also can't really pressure turrets on sidelane very well
      He IS insanely strong in the right teamfights though

    • @BartMK
      @BartMK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah he’s not mechanically easy, he’s medium level.
      Champs that have some niche mechanics can never be considered ”very easy”.
      Very easy is olaf, yi, vi, etc.
      Aatrox requires game knowledge at least for him to function

    • @labirintocomplesso1273
      @labirintocomplesso1273 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends compared to which champion , Aatrox is on the high end of skill level if you compare it to the average toplane champion imo

    • @Sultankakto
      @Sultankakto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who is hard if Aatrox very easy?

  • @faithybread3082
    @faithybread3082 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like watching him but I’m genuinely curious what he thinks is a skilled champ. He literally blames every champ in the game. Every single one.

    • @BeefcakeKARS
      @BeefcakeKARS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I play top and I can relate, I call it top syndrome, any champ that uses aa as main damage output is not skillful. He regards a skilled champ as one that uses skillshot for damage probably

    • @BeefcakeKARS
      @BeefcakeKARS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      although it most probably isn't true, probably is just a cope for being counter picked or smt

  • @TheLastAatroxMain
    @TheLastAatroxMain 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There is no skill in top lane. its only ranged top cringe or some bs melee champ that can right click you to death and has permanent priority.

    • @titanofyoutube4834
      @titanofyoutube4834 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And then there is aatrox, who hits level 4 and is then both.

    • @BartMK
      @BartMK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@titanofyoutube4834yeah, aatrox and right clicking totally will work bro. His melee stats are just so good right now
      And if aatrox is ranged so is darius, kayn, fiora, like what?

    • @labirintocomplesso1273
      @labirintocomplesso1273 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@titanofyoutube4834 aatrox is not ranged and neither is aa based

  • @iconpump82
    @iconpump82 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Azerbaijan Best

  • @surgialbobcat458
    @surgialbobcat458 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never understood why ppl think fiora takes skill

  • @hglvpfhkd
    @hglvpfhkd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First Comment UwU♥

  • @S0M7HING-N00BYU
    @S0M7HING-N00BYU 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nayil i do not like your new editor/editing style bring back the old guy please.In my opinion i learn more in your old vids but the new vids are more entertaining.

  • @New.lol1
    @New.lol1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't wait to see all the "bro fiora is skilled wtf"... Btw bro fell off

  • @xv8y
    @xv8y 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    Damn he fell off

    • @Quietboy46
      @Quietboy46 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      That joke is annoying already

    • @Wsio.
      @Wsio. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      The only thing that fell of is the humor of people who use this overused joke

    • @voidrush2738
      @voidrush2738 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Get c you 12 year old kid.

    • @nepenant
      @nepenant 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Don't care + Rooted + Perma-stunned + Airborne + Illaoi Ulted

    • @LorenzzoVidal
      @LorenzzoVidal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      🤖”he fell off” 🤖🤖

  • @kinayyatuk
    @kinayyatuk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Naayil fell off viewers😢

  • @leprosy9894
    @leprosy9894 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Imagine playing on S-tier champion and still yapping about the skill

    • @unidino8963
      @unidino8963 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm dead bro said aatrox is s tier.
      Yeah in bronze my dude

    • @leprosy9894
      @leprosy9894 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@unidino8963 54.3 wr on GM is not enough?

    • @DIAX9
      @DIAX9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@leprosy9894 yeah winrate is everything sure

    • @TeDeoZ
      @TeDeoZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DIAX9 well, yes it is. This is litterally was can define if a champ is good or not but in particular exceptions in Challenger elo with OTP champs like Kata.

    • @unidino8963
      @unidino8963 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@leprosy9894 no🗿

  • @Blade_Of_Miquella
    @Blade_Of_Miquella 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ngl, I think Irelia is the skilled champ of toplane kekw

    • @xRG1x
      @xRG1x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wise man