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You ask whether she was LEGALLY INSANE when she fired the gun? Look at the video - lurking in house, tracking mom and shooting in face 3X, brags to friend, uses mom's phone to lure the step father home, laying in wait for the step father, ambushes stepfather shooting him, runs in attempt to flee THAT IS NOT INSANE. That is CALCULATED. THE question should be is she LEGALLY INSANE NOW - she is calculating playing school girl but reality is she is a KILLER.
After she shot her mother she sang to her dogs. That’s mental illness. She called her friend to look at the body. That’s mental illness. She’s not normal.
I don’t understand the title of this video. If she was determined to be legally insane, she wouldn’t be on trial right now, right? Wasn’t Lori Vallow not competent to stand trial and she was treated and medicated until competent enough to stand trial.
She was calm and alert enough to put the gun behind her back on the counter and still managed to text without missing a beat. No shaking hands, no panic..nothing!
@@ja3482 no makes her look like she knew exactly what she was doing especially calling her step Dad with her Mom's phone and then trying to shoot him too
I also noticed in the video that after Carly placed the gun down behind her, while sitting on the kitchen stool, one of the dogs walked behind her and she checks on the gun and makes sure that the dog didn't bother the gun or that the gun didn't fall off the stool. She was in her right mind while doing evil.
Why is that woman playing with her hair like she some kinda princess, she should not have no respect at all from anybody. That's a murderer, not a princess.
@@JenniDoesCrimesI don't think you understand the words you are using and hearing and it's confusing you. Any one can have mental illness and mental health issues. Those don't excuse you of a crime. Yes in court there is a legal standard of insanity. It means you don't know right from wrong in the moment. That's the standard. That doesn't mean that she wasn't having mental issues, just that she wasn't legally insane. Legally insane is the only excuse a court will accept. Using your standard, no crimes would ever been charged as no one who was mentally completely stable would ever commit any crime. Every crime comes with a mental breakdown, at least to the point of not caring about punishment. Rational well functioning people don't harm others.
@robingalbraith323 the framework for mental illness defence is very different in the US compared to other places in the world. The bar is set quite low. Knowing right from wrong isn't necessarily proving or disproving mental illness. For example if someone murders someone because they were told to do so by "voices" they will believe they did the right thing. So yeah people commenting may live in other parts of the world where she would be insane but still charged and sent to a prison that is specific for those with mental illness.
An insane person would NOT remember the cameras. They would walk around the house with the gun exposed. They would kill and stay put. We’ve seen it too many times. They’re insane and impulsive. This girl planned this out that day. She’s smart, methodical, conniving and deeply disturbed- NOT insane.
I'm not sticking up for what this child has done, but your comment is misinformed and inaccurate. People in psychosis can be very much aware of cameras, as well as plan events which can make them appear calculated - when they may in fact be reacting to command hallucinations.
@@MrRhiannedanielleyou’re defending another Sydney Powell. I presume Gregg will land in the same circumstance and outcome. Let’s see. You’re too confident
Insane people do not pay attention at anytime let alone while in court. If she had disassociation this would be the time. She clearly paying attention to the witness statements.
When she first shot her mom, she completely ignored the dogs. Then, when the one dog tried to get in the room where her mother is, she screams at them and tells them to stay away. It isn’t until the end of what we see in the video that she actually says “it’s ok” to them. All 3 of those behaviors show guilt and awareness. It’s also really creepy how she looks at people on the stand. She’s a psychopath.
@@Suzie-he9ni in reality, they may never be able to except what she did. But that should only be viewed from an empathetic perspective. They are in denial because to them… that’s their little girl:(
It's only been 6 months and I imagine it'd be hard to believe a sweet little girl you love could just be a mask for a psychopath. I'm betting their opinions will fluctuate over the next several years as they process the loss of Ashley and come to terms with what really happened
No. She is not insane. Mentally ill? Yes. Doesn't excuse her from murdering her mother. If anyone is insane, it's her stepfather and arguably, the grandparents. She knew what she was doing.
Totally agree. The stepdad clearly dimwitted.She shot at him in effort to kill him but he sits there like a lump of clay spewing "she was scared and didn't know it was him". That's lunacy.
No way - saw that video. She did what she did calmly and methodically and it shocks me how supportive family is - but they already feel shocked and shattered. I would not back her up. She knew what she was doing
@@JenniDoesCrimesdid she know right from wrong at the time of the crime.. actions speak volumes (video) and shows she did.. why is she hiding the gun, checking to make sure it isn't knocked off when dog goes behind stool, sending text messages from her mother's phone callous and calculated... Obviously she has mental issues to do what she did, but doesn't diminish her from the crime and guilt..
The step dad is pretty pathetic to take her side, it smells fishy to me! those dogs are terrified of her especially the white golden. She looks like a creepy little doll,.
That is normal. It's a normal reaction of the psyche and is very well documented in psychology. The parental bond often remains in such situations due to the cognitive dissonance of the trauma. It takes time to work through. It's the same principle as abused women defending their abusive partner or children defending their abusive parents.
so you haven't seen the case where the mother who was shot and blinded by her son, and the father killed stood by her killer son's side, even bailed him out and allowed him to stay living in the home. never seen the father who forgave the daughter who killed the mother and injured him, never seen the parents who forgave the child who took their other child's life. there are stories of stepparents who took the child's side over the killing of the biological parent, there was a case with a woman who took her stepson's side over killing the emotionally abusive father. She obviously loved him, bc he was the only one she asked the cop if he was alright.it's obvious to me he wasn't the person who punished her, he was the one she could talk to. there's nothing pathetic about standing by a child you helped raise. i could tell you without a shadow of a doubt that if one of my kids tried killing me I would still love them and wouldn't want to see them locked up in prison, (maybe a mental health facility)
What 15 yr old uses or knows the word "extotensial"? I didn't and have never used that word. I have two college degrees and was on the deans list for high grades.
@@Suzie-he9niIkr? 😂😂Do you mean existential?Guess spelling wasn't your strong suit getting your degrees and being on Dean's list? Or your phone really misunderstood you and used a non-existent word. You have to laugh at this, (my comment, not this murder case). The kid is smart but diabolical for certain, and thinks she'll be able to fool jury into thinking she's legally insane. Ugh.
not sure if you have kids, or grandchildren, brothers, sisters, but let them hit you or try and take your life or that of another and see if you stand by them, you will ! you will want them to get help, but not prison, even if they're grown adults the likelihood of you not standing by them is very small, most cases like this there will always be parents, grandparents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, that will stand the closest to the family member who killed another family member. some ppl can't forgive in these cases, but its rare.
Probably because they had never seen her do anything insanely violent until the Lexapro levels built up in her system. Certainly NOT a coincidence. And yes, such drugs can militate against you're empathy and your sense of what are imaginary events vs real events.
I agree. A mentally unstable angry teen. I don't think she was insane tho. I think she knew what she was doing but forgot life isn't a movie and this isn't short lived, it's a life sentence.
@@joeking433a rational human being would never murder someone because, unless you have parents that teach you morals (what is right and what is wrong), a child would know murdering someone is wrong. Once a child has grown a bit and has a better understanding of the law, then they learn that murdering someone will lead to prison and in some cases, they may end up executed. I’ve been punished before growing up and never in my mind did I ever thought about murdering my parents. Unfortunate that this girl did not get a grip on herself and just deal with whatever punishment her mom would have given her. No phone without a month sure beats the hell out of prison for life.
Carly reminds me of my older sister. She always wanted her image to be a "sweet person" to everyone around her. She had the nickname "sunshine" at work, except she would say horrible things about her coworkers, neighbors, family members and strangers behind their backs. Yet she wouldn't let it go that she wasn't a "sweet person". None of those people would believe the truth about her if I told them, they would think I was lying. She hid it so well. I can see why Carly's family refuses to see the truth about her, she put on a great performance of being a "sweet person".
@@wolke1955 No, my life ended when she took her life 9/22/23. Her last words to me were "you better kill me before I kill myself, just you wait you'll be sorry." I wish she took me with her that day. We had just bought a home together 7 weeks before. We did everything together, I can't leave the house anymore. Our entire family is destroyed forever and we just want her back.
Trying to dodge a murder case with an insanity plea is always their go to… She plotted, planned, and bragged about it. She knew and was well aware of everything.
She and her mother got into an argument on the drive home. The spoiled, narcissistic little princess got ticked off about it & decided to kill her mother. That's it, period.
There are thousands of kids out there that fit that description and who fight with their parents, but she’s the only one blowing her Mother’s brains out. Plus, she had no prior history of violence or cruelty. So, I don’t think this case is as cut and dry as it appears to be.
Trying to make herself look even more childlike. One of the outfits she wore was screaming “little school girl”, with the light colored shirt and dark jumper.
@@aliciagwrjrnfj that poor man lost everything. Unfortunately, the girl is probably the closest tie he has to his late wife 💔. He’s probably still in shock and denial, and processing his grief. Regardless of how unhealthy it seems from the outside, I’m sure he’ll move on when he’s able.
She just seem very very stupid enough to be manipulated. And she seems like a stray dog wanting to be petted by "anyone". I just say police should dig into the relationship between stepfather and daughter.
@@AnneDC_2532 You do know that that is always investigated and of course there was no evidence of that, don't you? And even if so no one would be stupid even to have themselves get shot. But there are plenty of fools like you with a wild imagination.
🚩 Surveillance cameras in the kitchen?! The parents must have known she was not well, not trusted, but she was calculated and diabolical - her poor mother
Many questions. Has her stepdad been investigated? Why would a wife keep a loaded gun in a cubby under her side of the bed with her protector husband beside her in their bed? Did he load it and put it back? How did the daughter know it was there and went directly to retrieve it from that location? How did she shoot her mom three times and not miss but from close range only hit her stepdad with a clean through and through? Has he been investigated to see if he was involved? How could he scream bloody murder at the scene but on the witness stand he acts so weirdly accepting of the stepdaughter now? Were they in it together? Did he tell her to use her Mom's phone to send him a text? No accusations here, just many questions based on his behavior in court.
I agree there's a few strange things there that don't add up I didn't like the vibes of the stepfather or it could just be He's just weird I don't know Something seems off
While I have some of the same questions, I can answer 2. I'm a wife with 2 guns on my side of the bed whole my husband has none. He simply does not like guns. And most teens knows about and where everything is in the house.
She killed her mother in cold blood. The reason she acted the way she did with her stepfather was because her first shot crazed him, and he was able to grab the gun, stopping her from killing him. She was freaking out because she didn't kill him, and she knew she couldn't cover up her actions.
Her mother found out she was on drugs . Carly did not want her mother to punish her and keep her off drugs. She seemed so calculated. The only other possibility is the drugs made her paranoid. Except for the cutting ,most teenagers go through very similar behaviour but never ever kill.
I really don't think she was insane at the time of the crime. She has issues, for sure. Legally insane? Absolutely not. I've seen legally insane. It looked nothing like Carly Gregg. She's very scary. Very intelligent and not quite right in the head.
The defense attorney is trying to get a not guilty verdict by reason of insanity. She's a psychopath. A cold blooded killer who should never be free in society
During the entire trial, this “teenager” sits there barely batting an eyelid and showing no emotion. She even puts her chin in her hand like she is observing something really interesting. I wonder if the jury is taking all this in. She’s a full blown psychopath, but what do I know?
The defence expert withess saying she didn't know right from wrong when she put the camera in the fridge, shot her mother, hid the gun was just laughable
I am so sick of the mental health or trauma from childhood card being played when their caught for taking someones life. It is over played by people like her and there are a lot of them. This is exactly why people who really do have these mental heath issue are dismissed and judged and its not ok! These murders need to take responsibility for their actions and stop playing the victim..Shame on the defense team for being allowed to use mental heath as a defense when they clearly know its all crap.
I think mental health can help maybe soften it from first degree to second degree for example, but she also took a life and broke the law and needs to be held accountable.
@@glee_again2594it shouldn't. Second degree is specifically "an intentional killing without premeditation" That is reserved for cases like, you intended to punch someone but your punch killed them, or you were robbing a bank and the teller shoots at you but kills a bystander, or you intended to cause great bodily harm but not death and death occurred as a result. None of the examples of cases that are classified as second degree would work for her. She shot her mom in the face. That intended. She meant to kill, not just cause bodily harm. Her mental state doesn't change any of the qualifications for second degree.
Science/Medicine doesn’t recognize Evil. They always want to blame something other than true Evil exists in this world. A book from the 70’s by Dr Scott Peck was the first time I read of this…he was chastised by his colleagues…it’s called “People of the Lie”. Includes his personal case studies of some of his patients. A great read!
@@judymurray191 🤣 It was back in the day when I read the Road Less Traveled… and Romance novels by Kathleen Woodwiss …The Wolf and the Dove comes to mind 🤣
:33 She had a presence of mind to hide the gun behind her back both before she shot her mom and then again after as she goes into the kitchen and sits on the stool. She made sure the home surveillance camera didn't show her with the gun. Then she ran after shooting the step dad. Both show she knew what she was doing was wrong and she didn't want any evidence to prove she'd done it. Nope, not insane, just another evil kid.
What`s wrong was the drugs they put her on. Instead of dealing with the problem they thought they could just medicate like it was some virus. Her father being bi-polar and having other problems that never received treatment. Self medication is a big problem in this country. They warned her about using drugs while taking the drugs they put her on. Those drugs alter a persons personality. They have a very serious side effect when you stop taking them ,like she did. I had two tenants that rented from me. Both bi-polar and schizophrenic. The drugs make them feel odd. As soon as they start feeling normal and taking the drugs regularly they begin to think they don`t need them. When they stop taking them they go off like a bomb. Both became violent and self destructive. They totally destroyed the inside of the apartment. Both ended up in a mental hospital for the next year until they got their meds back under control. Many times the drugs just stop working all together. Lets not forget that during the trial she was heavily medicated. And she had a year worth of treatment in a controlled environment. But you could tell she was still,off. Kinda like a doll for the most part.
Why are those attorneys all touchy feely with a client? Compassion, maybe. Infantilising her? But it's just inappropriate, imo. to play with the child's hair in court.
That’s how psychopaths manipulate people. They play a role and it’s easy to fall for it. Watch her eyes when it’s the doctor against her evil looks squinting and side eye caus she wasn’t fooling him
I love how the defense asks the Psychologist how many children he has evaluated in situations like this. Um... None, because (thankfully) if the child is sane or mentally insane, this doesn't happen often!
Yippee, she goes bye bye now! The jury got this one absolutely right! This is pure evil, and I can't believe the people at court tv, were willing to let her get a pass! SHAME!!! Their thoughts would be different, if it were one of their loved ones!
She knew exactly what she was doing. She planned it methodically. The Lexapro was explained by the other dr. Her dosage was half of the beginning dose and it would take about 2 weeks of meds to be in her system. She was on it three days i think.
For her Mother , it was the end of the world. She isn’t mad , she was angry and she new exactly what she was doing. She looks evil. She is one dangerous kid.
I graduated 2yrs early. But I was so badly abused I was 11 when I wanted to kill my stepfather. They had a picture on the refrigerator of me and it said the enemy. That picture stayed there no one took it off. I was beaten for years. At 5yrs old I was beaten so badly my mother told me she thought he killed me. Because it was 1975 no one did anything. The blunt force trama was so bad it caused seizures until I was 16. I was the 2nd child in the state to have had seizures due to blunt force trama. I grew up at uconn med center. So u just don't know what happens in the home. And my parents had great jobs. You have to ask ur self, what was going on in the home we don't know about.
The stepfather is mistaken. She didn't look like she had seen a demon, she IS the demon. Her scream as she shot him was a tactic used in martial arts to startle your opponent and put them off balance.
I was on the fence until the State's doctor got up. Everything was so badly explained and vague on the criteria for insanity. I wanted clinical answers that fit that video before making a decision. I wanted Dr Clarke to explain how Carly could function and do calculating things in such a dissociative state. He never didn't. The State's doctor was comprehensive and made so much sense on determining insanity; - Carly's spacial awareness, (where the gun and camera was/peeping around the corner) - Executive skills and motor functioning (the ability to hit a target twice in the same place, unlocking the phone, finding intended target and typing a deceptive message) - Knowing what she did was wrong (trying to calm the dogs by saying "it's ok") With all of that, AND her disturbing journal, I've no doubt the jury are going to convict her. As a last ditch effort, she should have taken the stand and tried to gain some sympathy because right now she's toast.
I've been with family who are in full-blown psychosis and dissociation - one or two of those points may still be possible, but adding up so many individual moments of cognitive skillfulness makes a psychotic break entirely unlikely
@@gisellemagraibhaigh8342Agreed. Take DID for example. With a theoretical DID diagnosis (which might actually have been a better insanity defense), an alter could do most of those things independently, and for longer periods of time. Alters are also usually destructive and self harming. Sociopaths don't tend to cut themselves. But then again, borderliners do, so cluster B is a possibility. I go back and forth with this particular case. I'm concerned about the lack of an established and logical motive, and also the manner in which she gave herself up. I think a motive would be apparent with BPD. Something with a little more meat and bones. I'm torn because I don't think she's a well bunny. Whether she fits the criteria for a break or not, I don't know.
I have the same credentials as her Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner with 11 years of experience . I agreed with her PHMNP and this Psychiatrist. I worked in the biggest Psychiatric Emergency room in NY, we see first hand psychosis and someone who isn’t psychotic .
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Carly should also be charged with animal abuse imo
@@k84k03I agree!! 💯
1.03 is says thanks mum to her defense. Creepy
@@CourtTV Guilty.
@@CourtTV GUILT CHARGE AS AN ADULT
You ask whether she was LEGALLY INSANE when she fired the gun?
Look at the video - lurking in house, tracking mom and shooting in face 3X, brags to friend, uses mom's phone to lure the step father home, laying in wait for the step father, ambushes stepfather shooting him, runs in attempt to flee THAT IS NOT INSANE. That is CALCULATED.
THE question should be is she LEGALLY INSANE NOW - she is calculating playing school girl but reality is she is a KILLER.
After she shot her mother she sang to her dogs. That’s mental illness. She called her friend to look at the body. That’s mental illness. She’s not normal.
She should try a multi-personality defense after everything you pointed out
@@fatteebaddee nah, she's just a garden-variety sociopath. Nothing special about her.
No, that is insane. She’s a psychopath. She’s mentally ill. Healthy people don’t do those things.
I don’t understand the title of this video. If she was determined to be legally insane, she wouldn’t be on trial right now, right? Wasn’t Lori Vallow not competent to stand trial and she was treated and medicated until competent enough to stand trial.
She looks like she doesn't give a rats behind about anything.
Dead eyes
Many afghans and iraqs probably feel that American troops feel the same way.
Another reason not to have kids .
She don`tl Spoiled brat all the way....She wass angry cz things didn`t go her way and this was her reaction.
Notice she says "thanks mom" to the woman fiddling with her hair! Disgusting.
She was calm and alert enough to put the gun behind her back on the counter and still managed to text without missing a beat. No shaking hands, no panic..nothing!
She looks like a fool pretending to hide gun behind her!
I'll be honest, That actually makes her sound legitimately insane.
@@ja3482 no makes her look like she knew exactly what she was doing especially calling her step Dad with her Mom's phone and then trying to shoot him too
@@MrBetc to me it makes her look like she was deep into a delusion where her parents were her enemy. That strikes me as insanity.
To me it makes her look like the boy that she is
I also noticed in the video that after Carly placed the gun down behind her, while sitting on the kitchen stool, one of the dogs walked behind her and she checks on the gun and makes sure that the dog didn't bother the gun or that the gun didn't fall off the stool.
She was in her right mind while doing evil.
God forgives
Why is that woman playing with her hair like she some kinda princess, she should not have no respect at all from anybody. That's a murderer, not a princess.
Right?! That was weird and weird!
@@bethneel6749and she's smiling and enjoying it. Goodness me. Little monster but not so little.
Look closely: she says “thanks, mom.” 😮
@@lindaheigert3098OMG
So creepy but I think it's to make people think she's a little helpless girl lol. 🤦♀️
She ran away, so clearly she knew what she did was wrong and she'd be punished if found. Guilty.
That may be some kind of standard for legal sanity, but you can’t tell me that is a mentally well child.
@@JenniDoesCrimes ... well, she NOT mentally incompetent to not know right from wrong which is why she planned and ran...
@@JenniDoesCrimesI don't think you understand the words you are using and hearing and it's confusing you. Any one can have mental illness and mental health issues. Those don't excuse you of a crime.
Yes in court there is a legal standard of insanity. It means you don't know right from wrong in the moment. That's the standard. That doesn't mean that she wasn't having mental issues, just that she wasn't legally insane. Legally insane is the only excuse a court will accept.
Using your standard, no crimes would ever been charged as no one who was mentally completely stable would ever commit any crime. Every crime comes with a mental breakdown, at least to the point of not caring about punishment. Rational well functioning people don't harm others.
@robingalbraith323 the framework for mental illness defence is very different in the US compared to other places in the world. The bar is set quite low. Knowing right from wrong isn't necessarily proving or disproving mental illness. For example if someone murders someone because they were told to do so by "voices" they will believe they did the right thing. So yeah people commenting may live in other parts of the world where she would be insane but still charged and sent to a prison that is specific for those with mental illness.
An insane person would NOT remember the cameras. They would walk around the house with the gun exposed. They would kill and stay put. We’ve seen it too many times. They’re insane and impulsive. This girl planned this out that day. She’s smart, methodical, conniving and deeply disturbed- NOT insane.
Well said.
Just evil 😢
I'm not sticking up for what this child has done, but your comment is misinformed and inaccurate. People in psychosis can be very much aware of cameras, as well as plan events which can make them appear calculated - when they may in fact be reacting to command hallucinations.
@@MrRhiannedanielleyou’re defending another Sydney Powell. I presume Gregg will land in the same circumstance and outcome. Let’s see. You’re too confident
@@MrRhiannedanielle....AGREED
Not Insane at all she planned this horrific act of crime!
Absolutely.
Insane people do not pay attention at anytime let alone while in court. If she had disassociation this would be the time. She clearly paying attention to the witness statements.
Don't care where she ends up. I only hope they keep her away from the public.
This was clearly a family issue. There are way more dangerous people out thete attacking the public
Maybe we should start caring. negative thoughts don't help anyone.
And the friend too . Both psychos
Lord will take us all out God forgives people need to look at theirselves
When she first shot her mom, she completely ignored the dogs. Then, when the one dog tried to get in the room where her mother is, she screams at them and tells them to stay away. It isn’t until the end of what we see in the video that she actually says “it’s ok” to them. All 3 of those behaviors show guilt and awareness. It’s also really creepy how she looks at people on the stand. She’s a psychopath.
Completely. Cold dead stare.
Little psychopath.
@@BeABetterPersonToday USA to wylęgarnia " gadów " , nie ludzi .. nie macie pojęcia i świadomości w jak okrutnym świecie żyjecie .
The family is in denial. They can't process that evil can exist in their family.
Avsolutely. As in many other cases as well.
Carly should never be free again.
@@Suzie-he9ni in reality, they may never be able to except what she did. But that should only be viewed from an empathetic perspective. They are in denial because to them… that’s their little girl:(
Agreed, which is understandable.
And who in that family wd want her sprung frm jail and living with them? Nope wdnt b me
It's only been 6 months and I imagine it'd be hard to believe a sweet little girl you love could just be a mask for a psychopath. I'm betting their opinions will fluctuate over the next several years as they process the loss of Ashley and come to terms with what really happened
She is insanely evil !
No. She is not insane. Mentally ill? Yes. Doesn't excuse her from murdering her mother. If anyone is insane, it's her stepfather and arguably, the grandparents. She knew what she was doing.
Good for the State of Mississippi
Totally agree. The stepdad clearly dimwitted.She shot at him in effort to kill him but he sits there like a lump of clay spewing "she was scared and didn't know it was him". That's lunacy.
No way - saw that video. She did what she did calmly and methodically and it shocks me how supportive family is - but they already feel shocked and shattered. I would not back her up. She knew what she was doing
👍💯 I couldn't have said it any better myself!
I can’t for the life of me understand how her grandparents and the step-father, who she shot at, are supporting her. It makes absolutely no sense.
Doesn’t the calm and methodical manner suggest mental disconnect?
Do you think insanity has to be frenzied and uncontrolled?
@@JenniDoesCrimesdid she know right from wrong at the time of the crime.. actions speak volumes (video) and shows she did.. why is she hiding the gun, checking to make sure it isn't knocked off when dog goes behind stool, sending text messages from her mother's phone callous and calculated... Obviously she has mental issues to do what she did, but doesn't diminish her from the crime and guilt..
@@JenniDoesCrimesIt suggests pure evil.
That Girl is Evil. Period.
The step dad is pretty pathetic to take her side, it smells fishy to me! those dogs are terrified of her especially the white golden. She looks like a creepy little doll,.
That is normal.
It's a normal reaction of the psyche and is very well documented in psychology.
The parental bond often remains in such situations due to the cognitive dissonance of the trauma. It takes time to work through.
It's the same principle as abused women defending their abusive partner or children defending their abusive parents.
Family is family. Just the circumstances suck. It’s normal to love your family. Not normal to murder them.
so you haven't seen the case where the mother who was shot and blinded by her son, and the father killed stood by her killer son's side, even bailed him out and allowed him to stay living in the home. never seen the father who forgave the daughter who killed the mother and injured him, never seen the parents who forgave the child who took their other child's life. there are stories of stepparents who took the child's side over the killing of the biological parent, there was a case with a woman who took her stepson's side over killing the emotionally abusive father. She obviously loved him, bc he was the only one she asked the cop if he was alright.it's obvious to me he wasn't the person who punished her, he was the one she could talk to. there's nothing pathetic about standing by a child you helped raise. i could tell you without a shadow of a doubt that if one of my kids tried killing me I would still love them and wouldn't want to see them locked up in prison, (maybe a mental health facility)
He just has a very laid back personality, maybe even a Little whimpy
Absolutely what I was thinking… 🤔
She is diabolical and not insane. She played the room whatever room she was in at the time. She’s super intelligent and a killer.
Exactly. She may have MI but she understands the difference between right and wrong. She’s culpable.
What 15 yr old uses or knows the word "extotensial"? I didn't and have never used that word. I have two college degrees and was on the deans list for high grades.
@@Suzie-he9niwell to be fair??? The men that shot at Trump were using existential threat to democracy before they shot. Interesting parallel
You’re absolutely correct ✅
@@Suzie-he9niIkr? 😂😂Do you mean existential?Guess spelling wasn't your strong suit getting your degrees and being on Dean's list? Or your phone really misunderstood you and used a non-existent word. You have to laugh at this, (my comment, not this murder case). The kid is smart but diabolical for certain, and thinks she'll be able to fool jury into thinking she's legally insane. Ugh.
From all the testimony, I'd vote guilty. Sane as the day is long.
I dont get the family supporting her in that fashion
not sure if you have kids, or grandchildren, brothers, sisters, but let them hit you or try and take your life or that of another and see if you stand by them, you will ! you will want them to get help, but not prison, even if they're grown adults the likelihood of you not standing by them is very small, most cases like this there will always be parents, grandparents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, that will stand the closest to the family member who killed another family member. some ppl can't forgive in these cases, but its rare.
Probably because they had never seen her do anything insanely violent until the Lexapro levels built up in her system. Certainly NOT a coincidence. And yes, such drugs can militate against you're empathy and your sense of what are imaginary events vs real events.
She wasn't insane. She was angry.
I agree. A mentally unstable angry teen. I don't think she was insane tho. I think she knew what she was doing but forgot life isn't a movie and this isn't short lived, it's a life sentence.
So would you do something like that out of anger?
Justice for Ashley! This girl is evil !
@@Ipetam does anyone know why she did it,?
@@joeking433a rational human being would never murder someone because, unless you have parents that teach you morals (what is right and what is wrong), a child would know murdering someone is wrong. Once a child has grown a bit and has a better understanding of the law, then they learn that murdering someone will lead to prison and in some cases, they may end up executed.
I’ve been punished before growing up and never in my mind did I ever thought about murdering my parents.
Unfortunate that this girl did not get a grip on herself and just deal with whatever punishment her mom would have given her. No phone without a month sure beats the hell out of prison for life.
Rebellious, narcissistic, hateful, but not psychotic.
@@angelblue7779 just like Lucifer ,it's obvious she opened the doors for demons
Carly reminds me of my older sister. She always wanted her image to be a "sweet person" to everyone around her. She had the nickname "sunshine" at work, except she would say horrible things about her coworkers, neighbors, family members and strangers behind their backs. Yet she wouldn't let it go that she wasn't a "sweet person". None of those people would believe the truth about her if I told them, they would think I was lying. She hid it so well. I can see why Carly's family refuses to see the truth about her, she put on a great performance of being a "sweet person".
Sorry you had to deal with that deception, but glad you saw through it
@@ginafarley6190❤
Feeling very sorry for what you had to go through 😢
I very much hope life is much better for you now! ❤🙏
Send you love and best wishes from Germany 🍀🌻
@@wolke1955 No, my life ended when she took her life 9/22/23. Her last words to me were "you better kill me before I kill myself, just you wait you'll be sorry." I wish she took me with her that day. We had just bought a home together 7 weeks before. We did everything together, I can't leave the house anymore. Our entire family is destroyed forever and we just want her back.
@@notcountingsheep3361 Feel very sorry for all the pain you have. I hope one day you will feel better 🙏🙏🙏
Legally insane people do not look around corners to determine if the coast is clear, they are not cognizant of video cameras recording them either.
anybody else notice how evil her glare at this witness as he's talking about her. Dang she is one scary nutter
Agree, don't ever let her out please.😢
@@myunknownland9272y’all need help lol
Trying to dodge a murder case with an insanity plea is always their go to… She plotted, planned, and bragged about it. She knew and was well aware of everything.
Please don’t ever let that monster loose on society! Not ever!
Oh, one way or another she's going away for this, either at mental facility or prison.
She and her mother got into an argument on the drive home. The spoiled, narcissistic little princess got ticked off about it & decided to kill her mother. That's it, period.
There are thousands of kids out there that fit that description and who fight with their parents, but she’s the only one blowing her Mother’s brains out. Plus, she had no prior history of violence or cruelty. So, I don’t think this case is as cut and dry as it appears to be.
Why is she waving to people like shes on a float?
😂
That was strange
Why is the lawyer fixing her hair and she is smiling like it's her mommy fixing it ...weird
Trying to make herself look even more childlike. One of the outfits she wore was screaming “little school girl”, with the light colored shirt and dark jumper.
@@gsmith6026Right? And it's the lawyers idea for sure.
What is wrong with this girl?
Her Mother loved her.
Now she has her legal team loving her!!! She is smiling like she has no care in the world!!!
@@myunknownland9272 She was crying.
@@stacyn.just for jury! not a real tears! she is very good actor!!
@@annarasheed3693 Knew It.
How do you know?
The family supporting her is weird. She literally shot her mom dead and told a friend to come check it out!!! How could u say i love you to her.
@@aliciagwrjrnfj that poor man lost everything. Unfortunately, the girl is probably the closest tie he has to his late wife 💔. He’s probably still in shock and denial, and processing his grief. Regardless of how unhealthy it seems from the outside, I’m sure he’ll move on when he’s able.
I agree, the video can’t be denied. All the jury has to do during deliberations is watch that video one more time. It’s so chilling.
This demon needs to be jailed!
@@SUKKAHDUKKIN206 yep
I don’t understand her step father? Very weird.
Guilty
Wicked. Not insane. 🙄
The dogs showed more upset and emotional fear than Carly even did not show concern or any reality to what she had done. She knew what she was doing.
Absolutely....I was thinking that....they were scared and then confused
"Or any reality to what she had done". If you are in a game, or imagining a scenario, you can be every bit as clever as in reality.
I would look more into the stepdad and Carly relationship. Seems off!
Glad I’m not the only one. Something just seems off.
they must be doing alots behind her mother back
She just seem very very stupid enough to be manipulated. And she seems like a stray dog wanting to be petted by "anyone". I just say police should dig into the relationship between stepfather and daughter.
Scary that the stepfather still has a relationship with her! Something crazy there!!
CSAM 😮 The Stepdaughter & Stepfather planned it! He's supporting her as planned, she KNEW he would it's BOTH THEIR PLAN $$$ 🤢 SICK
@@mrasic3507 I agree with you a very strange vibe
@@mrasic3507You're sick!
@@Xianne027she’s not sick, people do this all the time for insurance money.
@@AnneDC_2532 You do know that that is always investigated and of course there was no evidence of that, don't you? And even if so no one would be stupid even to have themselves get shot.
But there are plenty of fools like you with a wild imagination.
And the way step dad and her Google eye each other is creepy af
I've been saying this same thing and I'm so confused as to why this isn't being looked into further it's so weird
@@pennyloafin4447 Very curious here too!
@@travelintheresa7884 had me worried. S.a.
YES! THANK YOU! I feel like there's something off.
@@travelintheresa7884 I'm in Australia and think it's just me ...
What is heartbreaking to me is her mother loved her so very much and sought help for Carly. Imo she was born a phycopath.
Shes enjoying the attention way too much.
🚩 Surveillance cameras in the kitchen?! The parents must have known she was not well, not trusted, but she was calculated and diabolical - her poor mother
Yes they did. She was taking medication.
Possibly to keep an eye on the dogs
@@craftygirl138 my thoughts exactly.
And yet she had access to a gun.. as a mental health nurse I think she has a personality disorder
Mentally ill? Which classification in evil?
From the evidence shown, she knew right from wrong.
Scary person.
No, she's evil. She KNEW what she did.
Many questions. Has her stepdad been investigated? Why would a wife keep a loaded gun in a cubby under her side of the bed with her protector husband beside her in their bed? Did he load it and put it back? How did the daughter know it was there and went directly to retrieve it from that location? How did she shoot her mom three times and not miss but from close range only hit her stepdad with a clean through and through? Has he been investigated to see if he was involved? How could he scream bloody murder at the scene but on the witness stand he acts so weirdly accepting of the stepdaughter now? Were they in it together? Did he tell her to use her Mom's phone to send him a text? No accusations here, just many questions based on his behavior in court.
I agree
there's a few strange things there that don't add up I didn't like the vibes of the stepfather or it could just be He's just weird I don't know Something seems off
While I have some of the same questions, I can answer 2. I'm a wife with 2 guns on my side of the bed whole my husband has none. He simply does not like guns. And most teens knows about and where everything is in the house.
Good question, it is very strange.
I think you are on to something.
Something is off with the step dad.
Agree!
For sure and it's.all.just glossed over. Plenty motive there
@@yvonnemarie57 he mouthed “I love you” she looks at him adoringly.
@@noreen4529 disgusting.🤮
He did?@@noreen4529
She killed her mother in cold blood. The reason she acted the way she did with her stepfather was because her first shot crazed him, and he was able to grab the gun, stopping her from killing him. She was freaking out because she didn't kill him, and she knew she couldn't cover up her actions.
@@sandraritch2947 hmmph convenient if you ask me.
Boggles the mind why he didn't understand that. He is "slow" for sure.
Her mother found out she was on drugs . Carly did not want her mother to punish her and keep her off drugs. She seemed so calculated. The only other possibility is the drugs made her paranoid. Except for the cutting ,most teenagers go through very similar behaviour but never ever kill.
I really don't think she was insane at the time of the crime. She has issues, for sure. Legally insane? Absolutely not. I've seen legally insane. It looked nothing like Carly Gregg. She's very scary. Very intelligent and not quite right in the head.
The stepfather is on her side, fishy hey?
Right, Carly says to her stepdad “ When you coming home honey “??😮
They better be checking the stepdad for more than taking her side🙄
When she was looking at the jury you could SEE the darkness in her eyes. GUILTY on all counts.
She was Cold, Calm &. Calculated about Everything she did that day.😔
And in court!
The defense attorney is trying to get a not guilty verdict by reason of insanity. She's a psychopath. A cold blooded killer who should never be free in society
I question her female attorney who is freakishly caressing her hair. Ooff
During the entire trial, this “teenager” sits there barely batting an eyelid and showing no emotion. She even puts her chin in her hand like she is observing something really interesting. I wonder if the jury is taking all this in. She’s a full blown psychopath, but what do I know?
You know enough, I agree wholeheartedly with you. She is evil and clever with it.
wow, look at her mean look with this doctor saying it like it is. and the other times, she is crying, etc, she is playing all the fools.
She brutally shot her mother multiple times in the face I'm sure she knew exactly what she was doing!
To know right from wrong is very different than caring about right from wrong. She knows and she doesn't care. Absolute psychopath.
What's going on with her and her step father???
@@elspethhughes8620 creepy stuff
@@elspethhughes8620 I'd like to know the same this is very odd to me
She’ll do it again. Keep her locked away.
The defence expert withess saying she didn't know right from wrong when she put the camera in the fridge, shot her mother, hid the gun was just laughable
I think she knew what she was doing cause she looks cold in her face and she is smiling like it's nothing
Carly is a victim, she deserves a second chance.
@kahledblackman318 a victim i guess u are sleeping cause she is far from a victim !!!
@@kahledblackman318rubbish! Victim of what? She was smart, top of school and self entitled!
@@myunknownland9272 her stepdad has forgiven her, her grandparents has also. U can too
@@kahledblackman318how was she a victim? I'm just curious what's your opinion
She knows right from wrong. She hid the gun from the camera. She’s not insane.
She's so calm and calculated. If you let her walk the whole family is in danger. She doesn't care.
I am so sick of the mental health or trauma from childhood card being played when their caught for taking someones life. It is over played by people like her and there are a lot of them. This is exactly why people who really do have these mental heath issue are dismissed and judged and its not ok! These murders need to take responsibility for their actions and stop playing the victim..Shame on the defense team for being allowed to use mental heath as a defense when they clearly know its all crap.
I think mental health can help maybe soften it from first degree to second degree for example, but she also took a life and broke the law and needs to be held accountable.
@@glee_again2594it shouldn't. Second degree is specifically "an intentional killing without premeditation"
That is reserved for cases like, you intended to punch someone but your punch killed them, or you were robbing a bank and the teller shoots at you but kills a bystander, or you intended to cause great bodily harm but not death and death occurred as a result. None of the examples of cases that are classified as second degree would work for her. She shot her mom in the face. That intended. She meant to kill, not just cause bodily harm. Her mental state doesn't change any of the qualifications for second degree.
Carly knew actually what she was doing
Science/Medicine doesn’t recognize Evil. They always want to blame something other than true Evil exists in this world. A book from the 70’s by Dr Scott Peck was the first time I read of this…he was chastised by his colleagues…it’s called “People of the Lie”. Includes his personal case studies of some of his patients. A great read!
Definitely going to read this. Very interesting. Thank you
Ooo! This is actually an audiobook on TH-cam. Thank you!
@@GoSheepie wow …would love to refresh my memory from reading it so many years ago..I’m older than dirt 🤣Enjoy! Blessings to you 🙏🏻
I think I read that too. I’m also older than dirt. Lol
@@judymurray191 🤣 It was back in the day when I read the Road Less Traveled… and Romance novels by Kathleen Woodwiss …The Wolf and the Dove comes to mind 🤣
She looks evil.....and I don't understand the step dad's casual attitude towards her
makes you wonder big time
Step dad probably.. hmm..
That’s why he feels guilty and backing her up
Agree strange
He ultimately knows more than any of us ever will. I would think if he was involved, she would have thrown him under the bus by now
How do evil people look?
Did she say "Thanks mom" while the attorney was fixing her hair? An the video of her at home, calculated, wow!
I wondered that too.
:33 She had a presence of mind to hide the gun behind her back both before she shot her mom and then again after as she goes into the kitchen and sits on the stool. She made sure the home surveillance camera didn't show her with the gun. Then she ran after shooting the step dad. Both show she knew what she was doing was wrong and she didn't want any evidence to prove she'd done it. Nope, not insane, just another evil kid.
This girl is scary. A true psychopath
@@LauralovesJesus1 agree
Something is wrong with her, but she knows what she did
Yeah, evil, some people are just that, plain evil.
What`s wrong was the drugs they put her on. Instead of dealing with the problem they thought they could just medicate like it was some virus. Her father being bi-polar and having other problems that never received treatment. Self medication is a big problem in this country. They warned her about using drugs while taking the drugs they put her on. Those drugs alter a persons personality. They have a very serious side effect when you stop taking them ,like she did. I had two tenants that rented from me. Both bi-polar and schizophrenic. The drugs make them feel odd. As soon as they start feeling normal and taking the drugs regularly they begin to think they don`t need them. When they stop taking them they go off like a bomb. Both became violent and self destructive. They totally destroyed the inside of the apartment. Both ended up in a mental hospital for the next year until they got their meds back under control. Many times the drugs just stop working all together. Lets not forget that during the trial she was heavily medicated. And she had a year worth of treatment in a controlled environment. But you could tell she was still,off. Kinda like a doll for the most part.
Why are those attorneys all touchy feely with a client? Compassion, maybe. Infantilising her? But it's just inappropriate, imo. to play with the child's hair in court.
You are right. And this is a teenager at that. Who does this?
That’s how psychopaths manipulate people. They play a role and it’s easy to fall for it. Watch her eyes when it’s the doctor against her evil looks squinting and side eye caus she wasn’t fooling him
She's a player 😈
She was perfectly sane. Sneaking around… hiding the gun… checking to make sure her mom wasn’t in the kitchen.
If you listened to the psychologists testimony it is very very clear she is not “insane” He knew exactly what she was doing and it was diabolical
He or she?
@@myunknownland9272 Possibly: "He" the "psychologist". Punctuation and grammar are important to understand context; I agree.
I love how the defense asks the Psychologist how many children he has evaluated in situations like this. Um... None, because (thankfully) if the child is sane or mentally insane, this doesn't happen often!
She ain't insane...She knew exactly what she was doing....
Exactly
Her defense stroking her hair and I swear she said thanks mum 😳 She’s not sorry at all.
I just noticed it. 😮I can’t unsee that anymore
Yippee, she goes bye bye now! The jury got this one absolutely right! This is pure evil, and I can't believe the people at court tv, were willing to let her get a pass! SHAME!!! Their thoughts would be different, if it were one of their loved ones!
How many kids have we seen that "just wanted to see what it was like to kill someone" ? that's not insanity for them. that's murder.
Her stare and demeanor are pure evil...
Yeah. The way she stares into the camera is unnerving.
She knew exactly what she was doing. She planned it methodically. The Lexapro was explained by the other dr. Her dosage was half of the beginning dose and it would take about 2 weeks of meds to be in her system. She was on it three days i think.
Low 5 mg dose for 7 days, too soon to cause drastic symptoms
3 weeks minimum to feel or notice a difference when taking antidepressants.
I can't stand the sight of her attorney preening her hair like she's her little princess 🤮
Yeah gross. And the lawyer smiles at her
What happened she didn’t get the brand of cereal she wanted? SHE SHOULD NEVER EVER GET OUT OF PRISON.
For her Mother , it was the end of the world. She isn’t mad , she was angry and she new exactly what she was doing. She looks evil. She is one dangerous kid.
WTF is the step dad on her side ? What a disgrace to the mom
maybe they planned it together?
it's happened before
I graduated 2yrs early. But I was so badly abused I was 11 when I wanted to kill my stepfather. They had a picture on the refrigerator of me and it said the enemy. That picture stayed there no one took it off. I was beaten for years. At 5yrs old I was beaten so badly my mother told me she thought he killed me. Because it was 1975 no one did anything. The blunt force trama was so bad it caused seizures until I was 16. I was the 2nd child in the state to have had seizures due to blunt force trama. I grew up at uconn med center. So u just don't know what happens in the home. And my parents had great jobs. You have to ask ur self, what was going on in the home we don't know about.
Those poor fur babies!! They are terrified! 😢
😢😢😢😢😢
The stepfather is mistaken. She didn't look like she had seen a demon, she IS the demon. Her scream as she shot him was a tactic used in martial arts to startle your opponent and put them off balance.
Those dogs are noticeably disturbed by the scene,
Carly is dangerous she’s a psychopath
I was on the fence until the State's doctor got up. Everything was so badly explained and vague on the criteria for insanity. I wanted clinical answers that fit that video before making a decision. I wanted Dr Clarke to explain how Carly could function and do calculating things in such a dissociative state. He never didn't. The State's doctor was comprehensive and made so much sense on determining insanity;
- Carly's spacial awareness, (where the gun and camera was/peeping around the corner)
- Executive skills and motor functioning (the ability to hit a target twice in the same place,
unlocking the phone, finding intended target and typing a deceptive message)
- Knowing what she did was wrong (trying to calm the dogs by saying "it's ok")
With all of that, AND her disturbing journal, I've no doubt the jury are going to convict her. As a last ditch effort, she should have taken the stand and tried to gain some sympathy because right now she's toast.
I've been with family who are in full-blown psychosis and dissociation - one or two of those points may still be possible, but adding up so many individual moments of cognitive skillfulness makes a psychotic break entirely unlikely
@@gisellemagraibhaigh8342Agreed. Take DID for example. With a theoretical DID diagnosis (which might actually have been a better insanity defense), an alter could do most of those things independently, and for longer periods of time. Alters are also usually destructive and self harming. Sociopaths don't tend to cut themselves. But then again, borderliners do, so cluster B is a possibility.
I go back and forth with this particular case. I'm concerned about the lack of an established and logical motive, and also the manner in which she gave herself up. I think a motive would be apparent with BPD. Something with a little more meat and bones. I'm torn because I don't think she's a well bunny. Whether she fits the criteria for a break or not, I don't know.
Is Carly insane?... NOPE, JUST SPOILED
Why is that woman doing Carly's her with her bare hands...in a court of law no less
Valessa Robinson vibes for sure
Carly needs to learn the value of shampoo. That girl has greasy ass hair and skin .
Luckily her rampage wasn't a school, seems like it was headed that way.
@@povang most definitely that friend that informed the mother of her drug use could have very well been her next victim
I have the same credentials as her Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner with 11 years of experience . I agreed with her PHMNP and this Psychiatrist. I worked in the biggest Psychiatric Emergency room in NY, we see first hand psychosis and someone who isn’t psychotic .
she gave her mother 3, she had 3 for her step dad, i hope the judge give her what she deserves
Wow, it looks like having kids nowadays is a crapshot.
Truely
Poor puppies are scared to death!
Yeah... :( They're so freaked out.
😢😢😢😢
The way the dogs look at her. Then look at each other. Holy Cow. 😢
Breaks my heart 💔
They acted like an earthquake was coming or storm in the distance😢
She knows and knew at the time right from wrong, and therefore she is NOT legally insane
Right. She might have had a mental health crisis moment but not meeting the legal insanity criteria.
She's gone for the totally innocent "I'm the Amish" look. I see you, Carly...