THE MURDER OF DOROTHY SCOTT: Still Unsolved 40 Years Later

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  • @aidenisgrate
    @aidenisgrate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1805

    The fact that Jacob answered the phone and that’s when they calls stopped, leads me to believe that Jacob her father knew the man on the phone.

    • @kennedymcconnell6517
      @kennedymcconnell6517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

      he probably also enjoyed hurting the mother like that because she was so close to dorothy who he couldn’t mess with anymore. he probably got angry the father answered because he was different from the women

    • @faizaali6265
      @faizaali6265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +301

      I think he was scared of the father recognizing his voice. Dorothy herself said the voice was familiar but couldn't place it. The person knew the father and Dorothy saw this person in passing.

    • @fierhuh708
      @fierhuh708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      This is exactly what I was thinking O:

    • @ymg4377
      @ymg4377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      I also thought this too!! The father probably knew him or had met him once! This guys seems clever. This is something he would be aware of and careful with.

    • @raquel2653
      @raquel2653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Definitely a possibility but why didn't they record the voice for Jacob to hear!!

  • @emmauta99
    @emmauta99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2121

    "other times ~because it's really all about balance~ he would threaten to murder her"
    BELLA LMFAO😂😭

    • @sarahfernando3062
      @sarahfernando3062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      I LITERALLY LAUGHED OUT LOUD WHEN SHE SAID THAT

    • @smacris16
      @smacris16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      this SENT me 😭😭

    • @lauren9004
      @lauren9004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      This made me lol so hard

    • @annaaa6952
      @annaaa6952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I died at that part

    • @ellagibson9962
      @ellagibson9962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I laughed so hard when she said this!!

  • @adrijabalazentyte3277
    @adrijabalazentyte3277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +797

    I think the dog was buried over her just to mislead people and if they found the dog’s bones during a search they wouldn’t look deeper and assume that it’s only dog bones and there’s nothing under to look into. In that case they wouldn’t find her body

    • @EnterCoolNickname
      @EnterCoolNickname 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They can usually tell if there is something buried underneath the ground due to the dirt. They analyze the dirt so see if it was disturbed. Cadavers are trained to know the difference between human and animal remains. They can even detect remains in ash form. Their sense of smell is incredible. They can smell through concrete and can detect a body in water. Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible that her remains were underneath.

    • @onyx9215
      @onyx9215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exactly what i thought!

    • @saoirseharry5160
      @saoirseharry5160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly what I thought!! So glad other people thought of this too

    • @colleenkerr4237
      @colleenkerr4237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's EXACTLY what I think too!!!

    • @karlavelazco6967
      @karlavelazco6967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea pretty much so that if a police dog caught a scent they would only dig up up to the point where the dog was and not deeper 💗

  • @emeraldblacc8741
    @emeraldblacc8741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +590

    Imagine what the family felt. They could actually have regularly interacted with the killer without knowing.
    Also the problem with stalker cases is that it could literally be anyone, 'bump into someone on the streets boom you're their new infatuation.'

    • @faizaali6265
      @faizaali6265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Probably came to the funeral.

    • @shaeanalise6738
      @shaeanalise6738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Exactly! The show obsession from investigation discovery shows many stories about stalkers and how you can just get nice to someone one time and they become obsessed and become consumed in their fantasies

    • @fridaalvarez3907
      @fridaalvarez3907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Okay, a new fear added to my long list of irrational but slightly possible fears

    • @laurashjack
      @laurashjack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@shaeanalise6738 This is going to be long so feel free not to read it if you don’t want to, but I literally had it happen to me. I promise that all of this is true, too.
      When I was a Sophomore in high school, this new kid - let’s call him Jeff - was placed into my math class. Jeff’s last name was the same as mine so he sat right behind me in that class period. I was one of the selected students at school who got assigned to new kids to show them around/help them out during their first week. I wasn’t assigned to Jeff, but I assumed that he felt awkward because he was new and he was so quiet on his first day. I was going to be sitting in front of him for the whole year so I decided to “break the ice”. I turned around in my seat to face him after he’d been introduced in front of the class, smiled, told him my name, said a few things that I can’t remember now, and then I jokingly mentioned “Hey, if we got married one day then I’d be able to keep my last name the same” (you know... since his last name is the same as mine). HE JUST GLARED AT ME! It was the most hateful look that a stranger has ever given me before. Still trying to be nice, I told him that I hoped he would have a good first day. He looked at me with disgust.
      He never talked to me. Not even one word. He always just stared daggers into my soul. Our teacher changed the seating arrangement up one day, and Jeff became seated at a desk across the room from me. I’d catch him hatefully squinting at me *every single time* that my eyes shifted towards his direction, and he wouldn’t look away AT ALL when I’d notice him staring. He’d just glare harder. So... now you’re probably wondering where this is going? It seems obvious that the guy just hated me for some reason.
      Well, that school year ended and luckily Jeff never had another class with me. In fact, I hadn’t seen Jeff anywhere since last school year ended. It was the MIDDLE of Junior year, and one day I got multiple phone calls from a number that I didn’t know. I wouldn’t answer. Finally, I got text messages from the number. “Why aren’t you answering my calls?” “Why are you ignoring me?!” I responded, “Who is this?” The next message that came in confused me. “It’s your future husband. :)” I didn’t reply because I thought that it was probably a wrong number or a prank, but I got another message within 10 minutes. “Why are you ignoring me when we barely get to see each other now? I have to wait for you in the hall just to spend time with you. Your new hair is pretty.” I legitimately dropped my phone in shock. I had just had my hair dyed the previous day. I knew this was someone that had seen me at school, but I still didn’t know who. So, I asked again who it was that was texting me. “It’s Jeff, gorgeous. :) Who else would be your future husband? >:(“
      Honestly, I had forgotten all about Jeff, and I know other people named Jeff so I couldn’t pin-point exactly which one it would be. So I made the mistake of asking, “Which Jeff? I’m sorry, but I know many Jeffs.” HE BECAME FURIOUS! He told me his last name, repeated _verbatim_ what I’d said to him in math class a year and a half prior, said that he thought that we were meant-to-be and that we “had a connection”, and then he claimed that I must be cheating on him. I didn’t respond, and I considered blocking his number immediately, but I had a gut feeling that I would need to see/document if he sent me anymore messages because he was acting crazy.
      Well, he did continue messaging me. He apologized to me the next day, described something that I did at lunch as adorable (I NEVER saw him in the cafeteria), and he asked me to go on a “real date” with him. I very gently told him that I was only interested in being friends with him, and he acted as if I had just called off our wedding. He even admitted to me that he’d collect my pencils and sniff my hair as if those actions were normal. I rushed to tell my parents because they have police friends who could potentially help, and I blocked his number. I never heard from him again, but I had to delete all of my social media because he kept trying to add me on new accounts. I never saw him again either, but I always had the feeling that he was stalking me every day at school. I became so paranoid because 1.) I still have zero clue how he got my number in the first place, 2.) He’d been watching me for only God knows how long without me ever knowing, and 3.) He became infatuated with me over the only conversation that we’d ever had before he started texting me 18 months later, and he’d always acted as if he had wanted to kill me when I had class with him Sophomore year.
      To make matters worse, this wasn’t the first nor last time that I was stalked and/or harassed by someone. I’ve had 2 other stalkers, and 1 case was so scary that the literal FBI got involved. That story is much longer than this one even is, though, and Jeff is my main stalking case that entails me simply being nice to a new kid who then became obsessed. It’s honestly creepy how someone can fantasize an entire relationship with you and you not even know it. Again, I apologize that this is long, but I thought that I’d add one of my cases in case you’d like to hear it!

    • @shaeanalise6738
      @shaeanalise6738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@laurashjack don’t apologize!!! I’m very interested in stories like this! I’m so sorry that happened to you! It really is just so terrifying how you can say one thing and someone can fantasize and become so obsessed!!! It’s terrifying!

  • @Lamby_Cake
    @Lamby_Cake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +668

    Ok I don’t want to be THAT person, but I truly believe that Mike Butler could have very well been responsible for Dorothy’s murder. Shawn Scott, Dorothy’s son, tried several times to reach out to Rosemary Butler (Mike’s sister), and was ignored every time. Apparently it was known by Dorothy’s “friends” that Mike Butler had an obsession with Dorothy. Mike worked across the street from the shop Dorothy and his sister worked at. So it makes sense how he would know Dorothy’s schedule. The shop Dorothy worked at was, at one time, owned by Dorothy’s father, Jacob Scott. And he would still sometimes go and do maintenance type stuff there. So it would make sense that Dorothy’s father would be familiar with the employees and could have possibly known Mike Butler as an acquaintance because of Rosemary Butler working there. The only time Jacob answered one of the phone calls, the man on the other end hung up. It’s possible he knew Jacob would recognize his voice! This case baffles the hell out of me and probably will forever. It seriously bugs me that just because there “isn’t enough evidence,” some psychopath gets to live out his long life like normal while poor Shawn has to grow up without his mom. :(

    • @kirankaur7025
      @kirankaur7025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Very plausible!

    • @piperh4334
      @piperh4334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      that makes a lot of sense!!

    • @tophermurch163
      @tophermurch163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Is he the man that’s passed away?

    • @Lamby_Cake
      @Lamby_Cake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tophermurch163 Yes.

    • @mikeflynn1629
      @mikeflynn1629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That answers it for me.

  • @Alexandra_257
    @Alexandra_257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    “Because it’s all about balance, would sometimes threaten to murder her” I can’t 😂

  • @laurencebernier9818
    @laurencebernier9818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    I feel like it can’t be an ex-boyfriend calling her constantly... she said the voice was vaguely familiar but if it was someone she shared her life with I reckon she would recognize their voice easily.... I definitely know my partner’s voice on the phone or not🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @Justme-gw9mg
      @Justme-gw9mg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I thought that too, but maybe he was changing so she cant recognize it?

    • @rainywoex5035
      @rainywoex5035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe she did recognize his voice, but she couldn’t tell her parents who the caller was. If they were religious/conservative, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have a boyfriend when she was a kid.

    • @ilovethehungergames467
      @ilovethehungergames467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@rainywoex5035 maybe she wasn't but she had a child so i doubt the parents would care that much especially as the stalker was saying they would kill her etc you would definitely tell your parents no matter what

    • @rainywoex5035
      @rainywoex5035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ilovethehungergames467 Her lack of proactivity is a bit suspect. She could have moved in her with her parents or bought a gun, and she did neither. She also didn’t inform the police that she had a stalker. Makes me think that maybe she was a participant in this “game” over the telephone, but it got out of hand.

    • @ilovethehungergames467
      @ilovethehungergames467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rainywoex5035 she did tell her parents ab the stalker tho. if she was in on it why would she tell them and what would the fun be in that? sbe probably didn't think anything would actually happen. and that she was safe.

  • @sarahmchendry6022
    @sarahmchendry6022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +698

    I think the dog was there so that sniffer dogs would smell it then they’d find the dog and then ignore her body underneath after and play it off as it just being the dog u know what I mean

    • @jaydahathans
      @jaydahathans 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes exactly what i was thinking so it would throw police off n the killer would be in the all clear

    • @jaydahathans
      @jaydahathans 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Kiji Art its kinda scary how people go through all this struggle just so somebody isn't alive

    • @Ninehatesit
      @Ninehatesit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kiji Art they always like to call it a cult thing, or a ritual thing

  • @tehyasweeney1498
    @tehyasweeney1498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +363

    the guy on the phone may have wanted to kill the mother too, which is why he did the exact same thing to her that he did to Dorothy. When Jacob answered the phone the guy freaked out and changed his mind because maybe Jacob would know his voice? makes sense loll

    • @bloodyneptune
      @bloodyneptune 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He called once a week for four years, and because he never once stayed on the line long enough to be traced, the police think he knew the line was bugged. Which means he knew they were being recorded and they'd obviously play them for her father to see if he recognized it. Even if he didn't assume that for some reason, they _were_ obviously played for him and as its still unsolved, he clearly didn't regonize the voice.

  • @vanessag5449
    @vanessag5449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Always so heartbreaking to hear the parents died without getting any closure or justice

  • @jasminetravisreyes9603
    @jasminetravisreyes9603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    It’s terrifying to think about how little it takes sometimes for stalkers to become attached to their victims. Dorothy could have checked out at the grocery store and the cashier became her stalker, and she would be vaguely familiar with his voice from repeated encounters at her neighborhood store. Or it could be the night clerk at the convenience store by her work, or her son’s daycare provider, or literally anyone - that’s what freaks me out about stalkers 😳 There’s not necessarily a way for the victim to even know how they caught the stalker’s attention in the first place. Just because the man said he was in love with Dorothy doesn’t mean Dorothy had a clue who he was 💔 What a scary way to spend her last few months on earth. Rest In Peace Dorothy Scott, you seem like a beautiful soul who the world was better for having here.

  • @maggiequinncloud
    @maggiequinncloud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I️ actually do wonder if it was Dorothy driving, and did so in such a way as to alarm her friends into calling the police right away, as well as pass by them without her kidnapper knowing she knew them. If there were two kidnappers and one was driving doing that would just make them look suspicious. I️’d actually be more surprised if he had an accomplice.
    Stalkers stalk for different reasons, but ones this diligent often have a form of erotomania or something like it, and are in love with their victims and can sometimes believe the feeling is reciprocated, or would be if they could get their attention, no man stalking her so incredibly diligently would share her with anyone else.
    Also, if that was the case it didn’t matter whether she actually had a boyfriend or not, if he saw her flirting with a man it could have quickly escalated into an “If I️ can’t have her, no one can” situation, or he kidnapped her, realized she didn’t love him, and killed her.
    That would also explain why he continued to harass her mother specifically for a while (until he found a new woman to fixate on), he regretted killing Dorothy and he missed her, and the closest thing to her would be her mother. Calling and asking if she was there would make it feel less like she was gone.
    Just some theories, this one is a really bizarre case.

    • @blahblahblahaha
      @blahblahblahaha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Such a well thought theory. I agree that it was probably her driving. he probably broke into her car and waited in the backseat with a gun or knife to her. He probably knew those were her friends because he stalked her to the hospital so he probably forced her to put her flashers on so they couldn’t see him in the back or cry for help. I agree that her erratic driving was probably to alert them. He probably took her to somewhere secluded furious probably because he thought she was intimate with her coworker who she took to the hospital. Whatever she said probably didn’t matter to him so he killed her in a fit of rage and grew to deeply regret it and try to glorify it by proclaiming he killed her. Getting off on the fact that he took her life which to him is probably the most intimate thing. This is probably a stretch but that could explain why he wanted to get so close with the mother not to replace her but to get a feeling of her life force again through the woman who gave her life. What a disturbing individual but incredibly calculated.

    • @brittrichards5337
      @brittrichards5337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Also the fact that he couldn't hear her voice anymore so he wanted to hear a voice that was similar and reminded him of Dorothy

  • @sarafina_24
    @sarafina_24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    19:07 I heard "seventeenth" instead of "seventieth" and I got so confused for a minute 😂

    • @ifloetic
      @ifloetic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same

    • @333pinkitty
      @333pinkitty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. I thought it was because I'm from America lol

    • @brittrichards5337
      @brittrichards5337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Omg same lol

    • @jessjojo2832
      @jessjojo2832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same! I was like….oh, maybe I’m not paying attention and am entirely confused on who’s who here…lol

  • @aleema5559
    @aleema5559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    we really need an “earring of the day” from bella in each video

  • @whitneybright5471
    @whitneybright5471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Bella you should totally do a podcast as well!

    • @ennikleinad
      @ennikleinad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      oh hell yeah id listen to that lol

    • @LaurenGVideography
      @LaurenGVideography 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      i prefer videos so i hope she sticks to vids

    • @whitneybright5471
      @whitneybright5471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LaurenGVideography she can do both! I follow Breny Lee & Asha Christina & they do both. Diff content but I Dnt see why not. She can reach more people. Even by putting out the same content on various platforms.

    • @LaurenGVideography
      @LaurenGVideography 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whitneybright5471 yeah i meant if she does i hope she does the vids as well!

    • @ericag5346
      @ericag5346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Geez give the girl a day off.

  • @kiellygarza2969
    @kiellygarza2969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    So excited for the 12 days of Christmas/Mystery Mondays!!!!

  • @lettertoelyse
    @lettertoelyse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    the dog thing is do throw off police, if they went with sniffer dogs, the dogs would detect the body but the police would think it was just the animal setting them off

    • @lettertoelyse
      @lettertoelyse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i hope that made sense

    • @ChialukaGold
      @ChialukaGold 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lettertoelyse wait so the dog would sniff out the human body or dog remains? So the police would dig up the dog remains then stop digging?

    • @lettertoelyse
      @lettertoelyse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ChialukaGold yea idk which one they would smell but when police would dig it up they would think it was just a dead animal

  • @dianaperez6537
    @dianaperez6537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Because its really all about ✨balance✨

    • @mariilopez1505
      @mariilopez1505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I lost it lmfao 💀

    • @abigaild7304
      @abigaild7304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah. I cracked up there lol

  • @heathergabbysalomon3614
    @heathergabbysalomon3614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Unsolved cases drive me insane The fact that she knew that voice really leads me to believe it was someone she knew maybe not very close but he/she/they were in her circle

    • @Elly3981
      @Elly3981 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The killer could have been a guy she blew off.

  • @MadisonJane17
    @MadisonJane17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    maybe her "cheating" on him was her bringing the co worker to the hospital and the killer maybe got jealous?? just a thought.

    • @lyricalm6846
      @lyricalm6846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      didnt she receive the calls before that event happened though

    • @humankaleidoscope4989
      @humankaleidoscope4989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@lyricalm6846 yes.... this person is talking about how the killer called the newspaper and said he killed her because she had another lover even though she said she didn't. it's very possible the killer was delusional and saw dorothy interacting with any men as cheating. however, it's also possible he said that as a red herring.

    • @jessicagiselle4026
      @jessicagiselle4026 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s what I thought too

    • @finaldeljuego1996
      @finaldeljuego1996 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that as well

  • @jeremyud
    @jeremyud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The best theory I read is that the killer/stalker was someone who did deliveries to the head shop where Dorothy worked. That would explain how the voice would be just familiar enough, but not to the point where Dorothy could place it.

  • @momager
    @momager 3 ปีที่แล้ว +483

    Is her son still alive? So sad that he lost his mother at such a young age.

    • @toricarroll1963
      @toricarroll1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      yes he goes by sean now and is still trying to find her killer

    • @mikaylaxxbabiixo
      @mikaylaxxbabiixo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ppl

  • @tatiana4522
    @tatiana4522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Not gonna lie that chicken looks murderous in the background

  • @ymg4377
    @ymg4377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I really think it was someone that her and her father had once met but after that never again spoke. If they could have really dug into her fathers acquaintances that had a connection with her. And also looked into her coworkers brother!

    • @natanyaparsons8491
      @natanyaparsons8491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes! I have a feeling bad police work is one reason her case is unsolved.

    • @trs_4612
      @trs_4612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yea family friends' are creeps.

    • @jordanpk1983
      @jordanpk1983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m wondering if the ‘friend’ that said she had the personality of a phone book, was also the coworker who’s brother may have been the stalker and could also be the coworker that went to the hospital with her, or if maybe the friend with the ‘personality of a phone book’ comment knew who the stalker was and it was someone she had a crush on or was her ex, seems like a bitchy jealous comment to make!

  • @tinabahena1254
    @tinabahena1254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Bella, thank you so much for bringing awareness to these cases and thank you for always being so respectful ❤️

  • @samiam3799
    @samiam3799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I wonder why she didn’t hang up on him the second she heard his voice. I had a creepy guy calling me up once and I just hung up every time I realised it was him.... there is no way I would listen to him telling me he wanted to kill me etc? 🤷‍♀️

    • @natanyaparsons8491
      @natanyaparsons8491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Maybe she was hoping he'd say something that would expose who he was? IDK.

    • @samiam3799
      @samiam3799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@natanyaparsons8491 yes that could be the reason! Hadn’t thought of that 🤔

  • @evapaula6947
    @evapaula6947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    The golden state killer’s granddaughter and I had a class together ...

  • @elenagyselinck2931
    @elenagyselinck2931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The whole ‘the dad knew him and that’s why he didn’t talk to him” is sort of a good theory except for the fact that his voice has been recorded so the dad probably has heard the recordings

    • @bloodyneptune
      @bloodyneptune 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Oh my god, _thank you._ Every youtuber thats covered this case has a comment section full of "he must have known her father and was scared his voice would be recognized" but...four _years_ of calls recorded by police, and they wouldn't have played them for him? They absolutely did, especially since she'd said she found the voice familiar, so of _course_ theyd ask her parents to see if they recognized it. Its still unsolved, so we can assume he didn't regonize it.
      On top of that, not one of those phone calls lasted long enough to be traced, which made them think the called _knew_ the line was tapped, which means hed _know_ the calls were recorded and would be played for her father.

    • @elenagyselinck2931
      @elenagyselinck2931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sarah Sutherland yes exactly! There is just no way he hung up because he knew the dad. Dorothy might have known her killer but I seriously doubt the parents did. But then again, I guess cases like these are just so frustrating that you start to see clues where there are none

  • @a-ny9647
    @a-ny9647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I've heard about most of the cases you cover. BUT, you never fail to bring new info that I haven't heard. Your attention to detail is much appreciated, as is your amazingly in depth research. Thanks so much.

  • @natanyaparsons8491
    @natanyaparsons8491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think if Dorothy knew who her stalker was, she would have told someone. She seemed scared enough to tell someone. It was obviously a local, because he was able to watch her while being unnoticed. I'm sure the police talked to the man and he was dismissed since he seemed "normal". I'm sad for Dorothy and her family, especially her son. A case like this would most likely be solved nowadays.

  • @eleanorgouldie9355
    @eleanorgouldie9355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    That first guy is so sketchy how was he never looked into wtf

    • @melody2640
      @melody2640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which guy? Her son's father?

    • @lyricalm6846
      @lyricalm6846 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@melody2640 mike butler

  • @caitlin1932
    @caitlin1932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these so much! I use these whilst I’m on the treadmill at the gym and it helps me zone out and not stress about everyone around me. Plus, the mysterious are so interesting ❤️

  • @lizethcaballero6949
    @lizethcaballero6949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was just looking for something to listen while doing hw! This is perfect, thx Bella✨🥰

  • @brianac7272
    @brianac7272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I think it was just a random stalker who romanticized his brief interactions with her. When she took her co-worker to the hospital I think he took that as her cheating with him and he lost it and murdered her. A delusional stalker.

  • @AveryTalksAboutStuff
    @AveryTalksAboutStuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Girl, I recently found your channel and I'm so glad because you cover such important cases. Thanks for doing what you do! :)

  • @carolinev8038
    @carolinev8038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw this one on reddit the other day so I was happy to see you cover it cause this case absolutely baffles me!

  • @lucycunningham8570
    @lucycunningham8570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    was literally thinking i need a mystery monday soon, always pulling through at the right time !!

  • @noodlesauce2553
    @noodlesauce2553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bella has saved my day yet again! Seriously, thank you sis! Your channel is a bright spot in my shitty 2020❤❤❤

  • @ellagibson9962
    @ellagibson9962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    “But you can’t tell that this is a murder story Nintendo ds game” you’re awesome bella😂😂

  • @missmads27
    @missmads27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg yesss new vid! no joke I've been watching old Mystery Monday uploads for the past 4 hours lolllll

  • @elliew9789
    @elliew9789 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have seen this case covered several times but this video is the best one that I've watched. Thank you! I feel like the information came across so clearly and the pictures you included really humanised her.

  • @twiligh4trinitya
    @twiligh4trinitya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    That guy was surely delusional when he freaked out that she "cheated" when she took that guy to the hospital. He probably thought she was innocent and could do no wrong and was sensible and to think she would be capable of "cheating" brought his infatuation with her to utter hatred and revenge.

    • @blahblahblahaha
      @blahblahblahaha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Completely agree. He probably got off on the fact that she worked in a hippy dippy store with people he’d consider sinful and she was this vanilla innocent pure girl next door who only cared for her son. Him seeing her interacting with any other man most likely infuriated him. That’s probably why he never made a move to interact with her in person besides the calls and stalking because his love for her was based on how uninterested she was in other men and even he himself wouldn’t want to corrupt that. He created this image of her and her taking some random man to the hospital drove him insane with jealousy.

  • @evachiofalo4427
    @evachiofalo4427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I thought it could also be someone at her work place who was also at the meeting on the day she was murdered because they would probably know about the spider bite and realize that she wore a different colour scarf at the meeting than she did when she got murdered

  • @puffpax666
    @puffpax666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Id love you to cover Allan Legeres story!! he was a serial killer in my area in the 80s and his story is super interesting! He literally escaped prison cause he put his pee in his ear repeatedly to infect it to get taken to the hospital then escaped cops at the hospital using a broken TV antenna he had in his butt 😳

    • @joeakaprolifik7735
      @joeakaprolifik7735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Paige savage omg 😳 that sounds crazy!!imma google him!!I hope Bella covers his case!!🤞🙏🥰

    • @ifloetic
      @ifloetic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Cfk umm? absolutely not

    • @shelinashel2969
      @shelinashel2969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just read up on the case - can’t believe the amount of incompetence that led to him being able to escape and commit more murders. I also read that he applied for day parole in August of this year. He should never be allowed out of prison.

    • @helenablanks255
      @helenablanks255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That takes improvise, adapt and overcome to a whole new level

    • @barsnacker
      @barsnacker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ugh no

  • @kcire5006
    @kcire5006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You bring humor to these videos and I love it!

  • @gdeane922
    @gdeane922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stalkers are so terrifying... could have been someone that came into the shop or she could have met him literally anywhere.. I don't think she would have called him. Stalkers can often make up fantasy's and believe the person they are infatuated returns their feelings. What a heartbreaking case 💔

  • @chelduks
    @chelduks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heyyy Bella ✨✨💜 glad you uploaded 🥲

  • @MsWhitegirl16
    @MsWhitegirl16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Golden State Killer, that’s a great theory. I hate that this happened to her. Hope Dorothy met her mother and father in heaven.

  • @cobaltxnights
    @cobaltxnights 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You look radiant in this video, and your brows!!! Hair!! We love to see it, thanks for putting out awesome content, hope you’re happy and thriving Bella

  • @MeetKazuya
    @MeetKazuya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That’s so terrifying to get phone calls everyday like that knowing that you’re being stalked why didn’t she call the police during that or had someone stay with her poor girl she must’ve been terrified all time while taking care of her child

    • @keziah1676
      @keziah1676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ikr it's so weird how she didn't go to the police

    • @steph6182
      @steph6182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      honestly? good chance she probably did report it but because of the fact he wasn’t physically harassing her or anything, they probably didn’t take it all too seriously. obviously just a theory, but you know how the police in stories like these are :(

    • @ckoz8595
      @ckoz8595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steph’s point is a good one. Remember, she was abducted in 1980- harassment laws were not as stringent then as they are now.

  • @johnpringle4190
    @johnpringle4190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good recap of this story! Thank you!! I have not read the comments, so someone might have already said this: If she made a call while at the hospital, she could only use landlines. there were no "personal"
    Phones (cell).back then.
    Unless the hospital phone was right next to the bathroom, using a phone in the restroom is very unlikely.

  • @andrijanapucarevic4074
    @andrijanapucarevic4074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    this case is so heartbreaking!

  • @sanaa.2195
    @sanaa.2195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yay!! Discovered you a week ago and have already watched all of the episodes 😂

  • @saratroche5176
    @saratroche5176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I think the killer burried the dog there so that if cadaver dogs find the smell of her body the police find the dogs body and think that their dogs are wrong (my English isn’t the best, sorry)

    • @KaylaG0504
      @KaylaG0504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You did amazing English btw and yes that’s a common reason for this because they will just believe that the smell was from the dog and not a person under

  • @marisaceleste5626
    @marisaceleste5626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This story is sooo creepy. The guy on the phone was a freak! I’m literally scared to sleep tonight

  • @myrtherupert9713
    @myrtherupert9713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I feel like if she had a secret boyfriend, she would know who it was. I mean she would have recognize the voice.

  • @irenes1186
    @irenes1186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how you talk about casesssss

  • @valerievigil6229
    @valerievigil6229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Who else was trying to look for her earrings💀👀🤭

    • @Ammmmmyyyy
      @Ammmmmyyyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Watch her crazy earrings video!

    • @valerievigil6229
      @valerievigil6229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ammmmmyyyy I did it was so good!!

    • @acebowden569
      @acebowden569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I ate them

    • @ShadowTae
      @ShadowTae 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@acebowden569 ok

  • @juliaa.marisol
    @juliaa.marisol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Never heard of this case till now considering that I grew up in orange county! So crazyyyy gives me chills 😭

    • @j03mo32
      @j03mo32 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She worked by the corner of Disneyland, I remember that shop, it was right by a auto shop on the corner and a few shop right next door, it looked like a smoke shop

  • @SofiaMS6
    @SofiaMS6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greetings from Portugal over here! Your videos are really something! 🤗

  • @b.1004
    @b.1004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s so strange hearing a murder story that’s less than a 40 minute drive from me.

  • @hayleydeluca7127
    @hayleydeluca7127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i got so excited when i saw that you posted

  • @bellajordyn4547
    @bellajordyn4547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rest in power beautiful angel ☮️🌻 thank you Bella for covering all cases respectfully

  • @queenmelly143
    @queenmelly143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in Garden Grove which is only about 10 minutes from Anaheim and 10 minutes from Stanton. I’m glad you are bringing awareness to this case.

  • @hannahv8903
    @hannahv8903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I love how US police have no investigation skills and go straight for calling in a psychic 🙄

  • @chasespieldenner4837
    @chasespieldenner4837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love when i log on and theres a new mystery video

  • @worldfoods6432
    @worldfoods6432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This series is the best thing ever omg

  • @abbyty4439
    @abbyty4439 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you thank you so much I’ve been waiting for 48 hours

  • @Im.sorry.ms.jackson
    @Im.sorry.ms.jackson หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think its absolutely adorable when you get excited over little things like your earrings lol. You have a beautiful soul. Just stunning, inside & out.
    RUP Dorothy. I hope justice is served on the other side ❤

  • @jacquelinesalma5453
    @jacquelinesalma5453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg!! I’ve never been early but here I am!! Hi Bella!! Love your videos! ❤️

  • @caddysyt1441
    @caddysyt1441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Shes so gourg and I love her stories. They are so interesting and she explains them so well

  • @deysigodoy8565
    @deysigodoy8565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow I’m from Anaheim CA 🤯 close by where she disappeared. Never heard of this case wow , thanks so much for new cases Bella 🙏🏽

  • @serene-knight
    @serene-knight 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you're so gorgeous by the way. always been beautiful but especially now! watched you for ages, love your murder mystery stuff. keep glowing sister! x

  • @jennypasajaja
    @jennypasajaja 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your mystery mondays! it is easier for me to follow the story, when you are speaking slowly like in this one (my english is not that good as you can maybe tell) I think you were faster in your videos before 🙆‍♀️

  • @jasminepalmer7401
    @jasminepalmer7401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg that’s my school, that’s crazy that this happened so close to where I live. love you bella💓💓

  • @winter_rosefleur
    @winter_rosefleur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish this could be like a Netflix series. Bella is one of my fav TH-camrs ever 💕

  • @emb4482
    @emb4482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your sponsor is so perfect for you!!! I love that.

  • @KatArriaza
    @KatArriaza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Can you imagine saying “hey babe, i have a great plan for our date tonight. we’re solving a murder !”

  • @juliaandrews130
    @juliaandrews130 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yesssss I loveeee these, they are really addicting

  • @Star4bies
    @Star4bies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yesss i been waiting

  • @FirstBrn
    @FirstBrn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    “Because it’s all about balance” 💀

  • @ivy7982
    @ivy7982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my fav vids, luv u bella

  • @zoevenus860
    @zoevenus860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    It literally looked like you carried the baby on the thumbnail

  • @angiesquangieflangie
    @angiesquangieflangie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    also this was a rlly good video u covered it so well

  • @ZarahTaylor08
    @ZarahTaylor08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i think murderers place dog/animal remains in order to put off investigators when they dig them up. if sniffer dogs etc identify that area as containing remains, they think they'll find the dog/animal remains and not dig further thinking the dog sniffed the animal remains rather than the human ones

  • @lisagentry2210
    @lisagentry2210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I feel like its someone who is either the Checker at the grocery store or the guy at the gas station or maybe a bank teller. Someone who has all that info at their fingertips. It could literally be anyone and that is scary

  • @vanessavaldez28
    @vanessavaldez28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now it’s a perfect Sunday to me!💫

  • @winiiii_
    @winiiii_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    love your little sassy comments hehe

  • @ByouBbeautiful
    @ByouBbeautiful 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s crazy how someone could know that much about you yet you don’t even notice them at all 😓

  • @ashlygonzales3196
    @ashlygonzales3196 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time I ever came across a story in my hometown !!!♥️

  • @PopPunkLoserr
    @PopPunkLoserr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know there are so many people that post true crime videos but Bella is my #1 choice and has been since her very first mystery video yeaaars ago. I’ve been watching Bella since 2015 and just love her sm❤️

  • @Usedmixtape
    @Usedmixtape 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These really make staying at home better, thank you. Watching from Northern Alberta Canada. 🇨🇦 🙌🏾

    • @leajohnson8441
      @leajohnson8441 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Were in northern Alberta I’m in central Alberta.🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

  • @abbieee1863
    @abbieee1863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really really hope this case gets solved 😞RIP 💜

  • @heyu3158
    @heyu3158 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a new subscriber, i really love your accent🥺

  • @kimberlyguzman6057
    @kimberlyguzman6057 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live around the area and it’s kinda cool seeing and hearing familiar places!

  • @TheScarletAlchemist
    @TheScarletAlchemist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it's someone connected to the shop next to her work. Maybe a manager or something like that, since it seems as though the family knew the killer/stalker, but it also seems like Dorothy's father may have had more contact with the person, since he never spoke to the stalker on the phone. I think that shop is the key to this case.

  • @SweetAshGamer
    @SweetAshGamer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The dog being buried over her seems to me like an attempt to throw someone off if they ever came across the burial site.
    "Oh, something looks like it's been buried here. Oh, just a dog, okay."
    🤷

  • @inescosta2708
    @inescosta2708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you please do Valentina's case that happened in Portugal? It's a recent solved case where parents were involved in the terrible death the little girl had

  • @brendavazquezzz
    @brendavazquezzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The fact that I live in Santa Ana and a couple of few minutes away from Anaheim is crazyyy

  • @kesharaa2355
    @kesharaa2355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember this story now. The hospital scene triggered my memory. It’s obvious to me at least that the killer knew Jacob and that’s why he hung up. Jacob would have recognized him. The dog was placed there to throw off anybody searching & even cadaver dogs. Also, as other people have pointed out - Dorothy taking her male coworker to the hospital could have been seen as a form of cheating by the stalker/killer. And that’s why he took her that night - in a jealous rage. Additionally, him calling her mother after was a way for him to be close to her in some way after he killed her. Mike Butler is a viable suspect.