#29: Dome of the Rock Inscriptions Confront Islamic History!
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- According to the Standard Islamic Narrative, the Dome of the Rock and its inscriptions are believed to be referring to Muhammad’s journey into the seven heavens which supposedly happened around 621 AD. The Dome of the Rock was thus built to commemorate this event by Abd al-Malik in 691 AD, but evidence may suggest that there is no way these inscriptions could have dated this early.
Nonetheless, even if we accept the 691 AD date, the only surviving inscriptions from that period refer to the 'Shahada' which introduces God as one, and Muhammad as the prophet of God, which later became the statement of faith for Muslims.
To understand the 'Shahada' inscription one needs to look at the other inscriptions which precede it, which say:
“O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not “Three”. Cease! (it is) better for you! Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His transcendent majesty that he should have a son.” (Now found in Surah 4:171)
“‘Praise be to God, Who hath not taken unto Himself a son, and Who hath no partner in the Sovereignty, nor hath He any protecting friend through dependence” (Now found in Surah 17:111)
“There is no god but God. He is One. He has no associate. Say: He is God, the One! God, the eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him. Muhammad is the Messenger of God” (Now found in Surah 112)
Note that all of these inscriptions are attacking Jesus' divinity, the trinity and the son-ship of Jesus, suggesting that this is an inter-Christian polemic, with anti-Trinitarians attacking the Trinitarian God of orthodox Christianity.
This is then followed by the 'Shahada' stating that 'God is one, and the praised one (that is what the word Muhammad means in Arabic) is the messenger of God'. The 'praised one' therefore seems to be Jesus himself, since all of the rest of the inscriptions are referring to him.
This clearly suggests that the earliest 'Shahada' was not referring to Muhammad at all, since it isn't a name but a title, but to Jesus the person. It wasn't until later that it was then changed to signify Muhammad the prophet of Islam.
If this is true, then it stands against everything we have known about early Islam, and confronts the Islamic Traditions completely.
Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay discuss how the Dome of the Rock, one of the foundational pillars of Islam, crumbles in light of critical evidence.
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I was always suspicious why the crusaders never tore it down but simply appropriated it as a church without modifications. This certainly provides a possible explanation.
The text of the mosque is not trinitarian
The text is not Christian. It is Nazarene.
The qur-an are the chants of the Nazarene sect.
'Umar ibn al-Khattab, the Nazarene Commander of the Faithful (Amir al-Mumineen) built the "Islamic" Dome of the Rock in 637 CE, to serve as the Nazarene Sanctuary, with a main purpose of circumabulation. Hence it served as the Kaaba. Petra was abandoned at this time.
How do we know it served as a the spot for circumambulation?
It has only one basmals (Bismillah... In the name of God).
The rest of the script is then read in a counter-clockwise fashion, by the circumambulating faithful.
So, the script would have been in place in 638 CE.
But, with the Nazarene Abd al-Malik's structural modifications/enhancements to the Temple Mount Kaaba in 691 CE, most likely the script would have been re-written.
The Nazarene priests were still serving at the Temple Mount during the crusader years! There are historical accounts of them being there in the 12th (or 13th) century. It appears that the Crusaders did not disturb the Nazarene priests (although a Christian monastery/church also came up on the Temple Mount).
PS: The Abbasid Islam (from c. 750 CE) was MINUS the Nazarene priests.
Bruh.. mosque literally design based on eastern church not otherwise.
@@kingconstantinusthesadisti133 ...
It is inevitable that both mosque and church design may have similarities since they are both designed to be the house of worship. What only differ are the signs at the top. For the mosque, the symbol is the crescent moon with star, while for the church is a cross. Inside the mosque, no statues are allowed, while the church are full of statues, both inside and outside. The mosque is observing the direction of prayer. All mosques are designed to one direction only. While the churches are designed to whatever directions. -06-18-23
*QURAN TOTALLY JUNK BOOK 📖🚮*
Jays a good presenter he’s excitement shows and makes it more interesting to listen to
Dr Jay and Al-Fadi, I appreciate these researchs. You broke down the scholarly work and make it very simple for every day folks like us to understand. I use them when discussing. Thank you.
Which scholarly works?
@@alonzoharris9049 I hope you heard Dr Jay mention his references. We all can't go to acheorlogical sites to evaluate the evidences. However, we can look at the works of scholars on the fields as expository research.
@@graceland395
Thomas Alexander and AJ Deus are his sources?🥴
These are academic sources?
@@alonzoharris9049 "I know how female mammals make breast milk. I'm a biological expert!"
- Alonzo Harris
@alonzoharris9049 "God went to Earth. He turned into fire. Fire went into bush. Bush burned. Bush talk to Musa. Makes three."
- Alonzo Harris
I love these episodes ❤thanks for the hard work and dedication 🙏
Three questions to the learned two friends:
1. If Moses okayed the 5 times a day prayers, why is the Quran saying 3 times a day prayers?
2. Which were the first three mosques and who built them?
3. If Abul Malik imposed Arabic, then in what language did Uthman composed the Quran?
@mysotiras 018
YOU don't exist😅🤣😂
The US army policy: Don't ask. Don't tell.
Islam: Don't ask. Don't tell the truth. 😂👍😁
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Mel, is it true that you said; ''...that some of the Dome of the rock had carving of pigs in it.''😀 Can you show us?
The trinity is three gods Mel.
Don’t blame Islam for the logical contradictions in your core creeds.
They are not going to disappear with your weak videos.🫠
It's haram... haram.... haram.
Well, that can be applied to most religions. They don't talk about academic history of Christianity in Sunday school for example. One must find out how these religions developed by themselves. As a believer today, you're only presented with the final product.
Dr. Jay Smith is doing a great job, with his researchers
I really appreciate what u doin brother❤❤❤
Insightful commentary as always. Thank you.
Every inscription prior to the 8th century debunks Islam. Dr. Jay has been bang this bell for so long the abduls are now deaf.
May God Bless You Dr. Fadi
Back in 1995,I a Christian was able to inter the Dom of the rock and saw on the ceiling a painting of Jesus laying against the rock 8n praying
Wonderful series
Thank you so much, this is very interesting but not completely surprising because Professor Johannes Fried already wrote about it in his 2019 bestseller
"Kein Tod auf Golgatha"
(No death on Golgatha) ‼️
Great video!
Great job gentlemen..... with all the new information the SIN SIFTERS have gotten in the last 7 years. I wish that all Muslims would take a long hard look at your findings and see that Islam is FICTION 🤔
i think christ is not son of god cuz there is a logic that you can put and you can say that christianity can be debunk in 5 lines.
@@aquagaming3480 And Islam debunks itself in 2.
Why else would the pedo-lord scream about his artery being cut?
Praise One Jesus Christ the Lord.
@Damyan Kuzmic ...
How unfortunate for our prophet, Prophet jESUs (pbuh). Even though it is against his will and contrary to his teachings, he was being made a man-made pagan god by the Romans as a substitute for Emperor Romulus who mysteriously disappeared from his chariot during a parade at a town plaza when a lightning struck it.
The Romans believed that their emperor ascended to heaven and became one of the brightest stars called Uranus. And so they worshipped Uranus as their pagan god. But when the Romans made their conquest to other countries, they substituted Uranus to Prophet jESUs (pbuh) as their pagan god since Uranus did not anymore appeal well to their conquered countries.
Under the guise of spreading religion, they thought that making Prophet jESUs (pbuh) as a front for their religious campaign, it will them make easy to convince the people to bow to them. Thus, Prophet jESUs (pbuh) became the rallying cry of the Romans. And they were successful. So, up to today, Prophet jESUs (pbuh) becomes the god of Christianity.
Maybe, before Christianity, the Romans had thought of the idea that the name of their religion would be Romanticity, or Romanticism. But their bishops maintained the name of their religion as Christianity since they are using Prophet jESUs (pbuh) as their god. It is for this reason that no Jew in Israel, a place where he came from, did not recognize him as some kind of a divine being. Thus, the Jews maintained their religion as Judaism.
Christianity thrived only in Rome. Hence, the name "Jesus" does not ring a bell today in Israel. If you ask a Jew today in Israel if he knows "Jesus", his answer will be a resounding NO.!!!
To get further information on how Christianity and “Jesus” are invented in Rome, see the video with the title:
THE CAESAR’S MESSIAH. -06-06-23
From what I have read and understand, the early Christians did not call themselves Christians - that was a name that the Romans gave them since they followed "Christos". There are many ideas how the early followers came to believe that Jesus was resurrected, as there are several myths of people ascending to heaven, or returning. The Biblical scholars Dr. D. Crossan makes a far better case/analogy using the Nero Redivivus myth that was popular at the time the Gospels were being written. @@defenderoftruth3212
Shalom and blessings to Al Fadi and Dr. Jay. May Elohim always be with you and surround you with strength and His Shalom.
There is Peace in the eyes of Al Fadi and Dr. Jay. I'll keep you in my prayers, and no matter what tribulations we'll see in the near future, God will give us sustenance as Psalm 91 from the Tanakh says. Elohim is our Lord ( the Father, Son and Holy Spirit), and Elohim is the Most High God ( a God of peace and love). His true love = equals - He gave His only Son, on earth to suffer and die for our sins. Only God could endure (in flesh ) such a burden.
- Many Muslims asked me " How can God die for you in flesh?" Well, is anything impossible for God?
-Many Muslims asked " How can God come down from Heaven in flesh?" God is omnipresent, so why would He not be able to come on earth in flesh?
-Many Muslims claim that "Jesus Christ cannot be God, since God is only One". Well,...God has the plural form of Elohim, for a good reason. It represents a title of authority and power, not a surname .
-God has always been a Title of Authority and Power. Just like King is a title of authority and power. So, if the Father is King, and Jesus is King, and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, that lives in the Father and in the Son, ...then there's One God , One Undivided Authority (Oneness) represented by the three persons of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
- God (as authority and title of absolute power) cannot compete with Himself, because it would be paradoxical (Can Jesus compete with Jesus? Of course it's impossible.)
- Thus God is undivided, = God is One, because the authority of God cannot compete with itself. Oneness is the opposite of being divided in Authority and Power.
- Thus God is One title of power and authority, just like Police is a title of authority that is carried by many persons on earth (just an example)
-And thats why many Muslims dont understand why Elohim ( the Father ,Son and Holy Spirit) is One God. Only humans compete with each other due to Pride.
-But God is One = He is undivided. Hopefully this will help many Muslims to see the meaning of God.
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Many Muslims asked me " How can God die for you in flesh?" Well, is anything impossible for God?
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YES!!! God cannot do things that diminish His Godliness, as that won't make Him God anymore.
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-Many Muslims asked " How can God come down from Heaven in flesh?
" God is omnipresent, so why would He not be able to come on earth in flesh?
>>> ANSWER
Omnipresent is means that God is EVERYWHERE AT THE SAME TIME - while being in flesh is being at one place all the time.
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-Many Muslims claim that "Jesus Christ cannot be God, since God is only One". Well,...God has the plural form of Elohim, for a good reason. It represents a title of authority and power, not a surname .
-God has always been a Title of Authority and Power. Just like King is a title of authority and power. So, if the Father is King, and Jesus is King, and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, that lives in the Father and in the Son, ...then there's One God , One Undivided Authority (Oneness) represented by the three persons of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
- God (as authority and title of absolute power) cannot compete with Himself, because it would be paradoxical (Can Jesus compete with Jesus? Of course it's impossible.)
- Thus God is undivided, = God is One, because the authority of God cannot compete with itself. Oneness is the opposite of being divided in Authority and Power.
- Thus God is One title of power and authority, just like Police is a title of authority that is carried by many persons on earth (just an example)
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Elohim is the Plural of Majesty, the Royal Plural for ONE PERSON....and not 3 as in the case of the trinity. What you explained above is all contradictory as 3 PERSONS can never be ONE PERSON.
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-And thats why many Muslims dont understand why Elohim ( the Father ,Son and Holy Spirit) is One God. Only humans compete with each other due to Pride.
-But God is One = He is undivided. Hopefully this will help many Muslims to see the meaning of God.
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Again you say that God is ONE PERSON but yet you divide God in 3😅
@@aaabrams1889 Shalom to you. I used a comparison to help people understand why Police is a title of authority just like God is a title of authority.
- We know that Police is not the name of a person. And Police is represented by more than one person. They all carry the same Police authority to enforce Law.
- So, God is a title of authority, not the name of one person. Thats why Elohim is the plural form to designate more than one person who carries the title of God.
- Elohim was used by Hebrews to address God, even before Christianity appeared.
- That shows that God - represented by the Father , the Son and the Holy Spirit carry the same authority and power, and they were not created (they are without beginning and end).
-The Police officers dont fight with each other for their authority, because they all carry the same title. So Police is One Authority.
- So much more, God is not fighting over Godly authority, because there's no reason (if you understand why Police officers dont argue with each other about who can carry this Police authority).
-If you conclude that God can be anywhere at the same time, but yet you affirm that God's Spirit cannot be in flesh on earth and in all the universe, at the same time, ...then you infer a contradictory logic.
- If you then , conclude that God can do anything, but then you say that God cannot do certain things (such as being in flesh on earth), then you create another contradictory logic (a fallacy).
Im explaining this so that people can understand what" omnipresent, " and " omnipotent" means. Shalom to you.
@@TheCatcherInTheRye_leon
God is a title people use to describe GOD - The Omnipotence, Omniscience, and Omnipresence, all-powerful, all-knowing (AL-‘ALEEM), and everywhere present....and the Quran says that the CREATOR is NOTHING like His creation.
He is ONE - AL- AHAD meaning "one of" his Own - Unique, The Only One
We know God Allah by His mighty 99 attributes or names
Al-Wahid - "Absolute One".
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- So, God is a title of authority, not the name of one person. Thats why Elohim is the plural form to designate more than one person who carries the title of God.
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Elohim is NOT the plural form to designate more than one person who carries the title of God.😀 Elohim is as described above and the word is a plural of Majesty, the Royal plural.
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- Elohim was used by Hebrews to address God, even before Christianity appeared.
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YES - and the Jews NEVER divided God into 3 person but ONLY ONE PERSON.
The trinity was copied from old pagan religions and is not even biblical and 300 yrs AFTER Jesus it was made doctrine at the Council of Nescea in 325AD after YEARS of debate.
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- That shows that God - represented by the Father , the Son and the Holy Spirit carry the same authority and power, and they were not created (they are without beginning and end).
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The Father , the Son and the Holy Spirit was used for Baptism and is NOT the trinity/ The ''Father'' is God, the son or the son of God in Jewish terminology is a pious person, any person, not a biological son of God. the Holy Spirit is NOT God as there are many spirits good and Evil but a Angel who came with revelation and inspiration as in the case of Mary, Zachariah, Daniel, etc.
YES - THEY WERE CREATED and YES they had a beginning - as in the case of John 1;1 a poor example but just for your understanding.
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If you conclude that God can be anywhere at the same time, but yet you affirm that God's Spirit cannot be in flesh on earth and in all the universe, at the same time, ...then you infer a contradictory logic.
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YOU are the one who contradicts - if you believe that Jesus is God in flesh then obviously he is at one spot at one particular time and not everywhere😄
> if you say; ''God's Spirit became flesh, then who is the OTHER spirit (dove) who led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted and possessed by the devil - not to talk about the Paracletos Jesus said that he will send after he"s gone>(John 14:16)
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- If you then , conclude that God can do anything, but then you say that God cannot do certain things (such as being in flesh on earth), then you create another contradictory logic (a fallacy).
Im explaining this so that people can understand what" omnipresent, " and " omnipotent" means. Shalom to you.
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Can't you understands that if God had to become flesh he is subjected to time and space and he's own natural laws like eating and drinking and going to the toilet😅
The minute the CREATOR becomes His own creation, man, animal, bush, book, etc. the he is NOT GOD anymore.
What a great channel 🥂🥂🥂🥂👏👏
I'd say this is one of your pivotal videos. The coinage videos too, but this starts to really wrap together the mechanisms for the switch from an anti-trinitarian branch of Christianity to a new religion unto itself, albeit still with a Jewish origin through Ishmael (I believe for legitimacy).
Ismail was Egyptian because Hagar was Egyptian, never be Arabs.
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Ismael's mother Hagar was a Egyptian Princess and Jews regards her a a Prophetess because she received revelation. Abraham was a Mesopotamian (Irak) and from Ismael the 12 tribes of Arabia came which over power the ethnic Arabs mainly from the South _ who were mixed with African tribes of Abyssinia...
@@aaabrams1889 Hagar was a servant...
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Yes - she chose to be a servant and later she became Abraham's wife.
Great video.
brilliant, one of your best episodes!
Truth sets men free. Lies keep them in bondage.
Only if Abduls finally see that the Islamic truths are actually all lies.
God bless you both for the extra ordinary job you do
ربنا يبارككم ويحميكم بنعمته. امين
The god of Jay Smith doesn’t exist.
Dome of the rock Byzantine Christian Church orthodox
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interesting
Dome of the Rock, why didn't they have this in 7th century Mecca is an excellent question!!!
The Kaaba, the Black Stone, the Station of Abraham (His footprint), the Zam-zam well, ancient artifacts like pieces of the Haraam (building around the Kaaba) are in Museums, etc.
@@aaabrams1889 they were all built after the 7th century and the Stone came from Petra
@@tommyrotton9468
Petra was nothing in the 7th century.
Muslims never refute the existence and prophethood of Jesus PBUH. He is a Sign of Allah. We love and respect him like prophet Muhammad PBUH. ❤❤❤❤❤
That’s because Jesus is real. Mohammed was invented.
Q: if the dome of the rock has been destroyed and rebuilt 11 times since the 600s, couldn't the inscription have been there on the first one, or on all of them in between?
yes thats my curent view ... first of all regarding the destruction that does not mean it was totaled ... that nothing remained, more likelly there were some ruins that remained some possibly even untouched depending on the manner of destruction ... these would then be used in the rebuilding as was often the case in the past ... so that does not preclude parts of the current Dome of the Rock dating to the very first one.
as for the inscriptions we are talking about here ... even if physically the current ones are not from that time they may be copies of inscriptions that existed before.
One of the reason I am leaning into this is as Odon and Joe from Red Judaism, pointed out the inscriptions seem to actually be targeted at jews ... not Muslims and Christians. which would put them more in the ball park of possibly even being taken from the "temple" of Umar that was there originally.
The Hijazi was the first script in which Arabic was written followed by the Kufic. Very few scholars can actually interpret the Hijazi script.
From the temple mount in Jerusalem, the difference in the vector facing Petra and facing Jerusalem would have to be extremely thin as they are both south by south-east from Jerusalem - and given that these were built in pre-modern times, maybe its within the measure of error for those times.
There is no such temple mount in jerusalem it called masjed al aqsa never ever called temple mount so stop and go home and read the history !
I speak aramic,hebrew,arabic
@@HamadaSolamon-vf6zq Temple Mount existed for a 1000 years BEFORE 'Masjid al-Aqsa' was mentioned in the qur-an.
Your history begins with the qur-an.
Other people understand history regardless of a religious book.
BTW, 'Masjid al-Aqsa' is not an English expression. So, completely useless when discussing on an English-speaking environment.
No temple mount found !!!!
@@HamadaSolamon-vf6zq Everyone knows where it is.
Everyone is speaking about it.
Everyone is capable of showing it to you.
Of course, a blind person will say "can't see it. Not found".
Repeat:
Everyone knows where it is.
Everyone is speaking about it.
Everyone is capable of showing it to you.
Of course, a blind person will say "can't see it. Not found".
No temple mount found that aqsa mosque belong to the muslim ! read the hisyory !
how is this guy still a practitioner of islam if he helps debunk the very thing he speaks against??
He is a Apostate and fools many. This is how these Evil missionaries operate with LIES AND DECEPTION.
IS this Dr. Jay who use to be at Speaker's Corner?
There are some doubts about the authenticity of the ambulatory texts as Dr Jay says, but if "sahih" and from Abd-El-Malik's time of pride on the stage of life, these texts do readily correspond to a heretical Unitarian position on Christ (does not fit the Bible), so would suggest Islam was a made religion, made in phases and evolved, and was perhaps a strange kind of Unitarian Christianity at the end of the 7C., rejecting some aspects of the gospel accounts and messianic prophecies, i.e the necessary divinity of Jesus without which salvation would not work. It does dovetail well with other trends we see. Like the coins and rock inscriptions, which do not fit the later Standard Islamic Narrative, which appears in Abbasid times, Mecca in the Hijaz itself as projected home city of the prophet in the SIN, has credibility issues due its fairly unfeasible location, not matching Quranic content and not a place for a significant settlement due to a basic lack of substantial water, and also signaled by it not being an evidenced trade node or on ancient maps before the 8C.
There is no proof that Unitarian Christianity at the end of the 7C., rejecting some aspects of the gospel accounts and messianic prophecies ever existed.
These are all theories, assumptions made-up by evil missionaries to malign Islam.
All their lies, deception and rhetoric will not deter Islam as it is the fastest growing religion and will not get Xtianity more minions.
When the Saudis renovated the Kaaba in 1979, they added an inscription there. What script did they put it in? Kufic.
Wasn't that in the year 1996 when they rebuilt the Kaaba from scratch?
@@TingTong2568 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_seizure It was in response to the desecration in 79..I will see if I can find the reference to the Inscription..
@@IslamicOrigins ok, please do. It will be interesting to see that inscription.
@@TingTong2568interesting
@@IslamicOrigins Modern photos of the Kaaba show that it is not the same building as the building shown in Kaaba photos from the 19th century.
All pre-Islam was church buildings, Islam just claimed them Hence Islam is a Deen not a religion. Mel latest Guest says the building in Mecca was a Church, they had them spread out across the land in places that people came to once a year, Islam just claimed this spot and built around the Church, that means they had to cart water into Mecca prior hence it was just a place to gather and worship your God.
Christianity did the same with every pagan site even in the Americas. Every place dedicated to St Michael was a pagan site the Catholic Church admits and almost every other site was also from the Pantheon to the Churches built on the pyramids and sacred hills in Mexico. They even did away with the Sabbath and Gods Holy feasts and replaced them with pagan days. Every single doctrine was corrupted.
Muhammad (Arabic: مُحَمَّد, romanized: Muḥammad), also spelled Muhammed, Muhamad, Mohammad, Mohammed, Mahammad, Mohamad, Mohamed or in a variety of other ways, is an Arabic given male name meaning 'Praiseworthy'. The name comes from the passive participle of the Arabic verb ḥammada (حَمَّدَ), meaning 'to praise', which itself comes from the triconsonantal Semitic root Ḥ-M-D.
Not only debunk Muhammadian history but also the Trinitarian Christian. The Dome was built to showcase Anti Trinitarian Gnostics teaching.
Ismael..oh Ismael..the Holy Trinity is biblical oh Ismael..oh Ismael 😂😂
TRINITY EXPLAINED BRIEFLY
If the God is a triune God, that God's power is Almighty and Holy. Jesus is both God and Divine. Jesus will be coming back to judge mankind - the living and the dead. And naturally only the true God can perform such divine and/or Godly performance. No other God can perform such Divine miracle, only Christ Jesus. Jesus is God in the flesh ( The Father and the Son ). This divine status is affirmed in the Quran that Jesus is Ruh Allah and Kalimah Allah (Spirit of God and Words of God respectively). Nowhere in the Quran, Hadith or Sira does it revealed explicitly that Islamic Allah will come back to judge mankind let alone Muhammad.
If that God is unitarian, that god must be a false god or a demonic god. If that God is unitarian, that god is neither holy nor almighty. When one undertake to read the Quran, Allah in the Quran is neither almighty nor holy since that Allah cannot empower Muhammad with a single miracle as demanded by Muhammad's contemporaries. The contemporaries of Muhammad demanded that Muhammad perform miracle or miracles to specifically authenticate his prophethood. However, sadly Muhammad can produce Not a single one. With that we can logically conclude that that God is there only to sanction Muhammad's myriad of unspeakable sins. It's also obvious that God or Allah of the Quran exist only in the figment of false prophet Muhammad's imagination.
How would it debunk Trinitarian Christianity ? The whole "might is right" idea, where whoever has most military power, and perhaps is more ruthless must be right and approved by God, is not supported by Jewish or christian beliefs - God deliberately chooses the weak, not the strong in many cases. If it was true, then when the Middle East was invaded and the embers of the Abbasid caliphate destroyed by the mongols, then animism/shamanism is true, since that was the kind of belief the invaders originally had. The Quran as the high exalted text, with a major revision to suit imperial needs under Hajjaj's authority, is not wonderful, due to use of unreliable sources, the mistakes and contradictions and lack of order and narrative.
The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit already existed and revealed in the Bible long before the word Trinity was coined. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19).
Only centuries later scholars conceived the word Trinity - The Father and the Son is one in Christ and with the Holy Spirit. A god devoid of the Holy Spirit is a demonic god which is none other than Allah of the quran.
The Trinity was conceived to evaluate and determine (in light of plethora of Biblical verses) the conduct of unscrupulous people or individual with Muhammad's character emerging in a society falsely claiming to be a prophet of God. False prophet Muhammad claimed to be a prophet, the final prophet, the seal of the prophet but committed myriad of unspeakable sins yet boast that all his wicked deeds are sanctioned by his Allah. He commanded followers to question not any of his deeds and sins. He commanded that anyone who dare speak up against his questionable deeds will be cursed and thrown into a lake of fire for eternity on the day of judgement by his demonic Allah, a god which is totally devoid of the Holy spirit. Some muslims goes further by saying that all Muhammad's sins are indeed sanctioned by Allah as an incentive accorded to him being a prophet. Make no mistake, such claim is not only blasphemous against the laws and teachings of the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It is also both evil and diabolical as no Prophet before Muhammad ever made such utterly wicked claim.
Deuteronomy 18:18-20
18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”
In the episode of the "satanic verses" Muhammad admitted uttering words which does not come from God and invoke the names of false god, al lat; al uzza and al manat. Here, Muhammad fulfilled the criteria as a false prophet and must be put to death (No salvation for such false prophet) as per Deuteronomy 18:20.
Muslim apologists from time to time deliberately omit this Deuteronomy 18 - 20 passage to deceive their audience.
Jesus severely warned his faithful followers to watch out for false prophet after His time.
Matthew 7:15-20
You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
This prophesy is fulfilled by none other than Muhammad. Muhammad claimed to be prophet, preaches moral values but murderous (Ravenous wolves) and violated his sacred oath. According to the quran and sahih hadith, it is reported that Muhammad have had concubine and enjoyed adulterous life with his concubine. As a result of prolonged series of fornicating with this concubine, Mariam Al Qupta, she conceived an illegitimate child of Muhammad. However, the child died at a tender age according to Standard Islamic Narratives or islam's sacred text. There is no recorded evidence in the quran, hadith or sira to suggest Muhammad had valid legal marriage with this concubine. Therefore, under such circumstances, the said child was born out of wedlock - through Muhammad's adulterous act. Besides this, Muhammad allowed his brigand to rape female war captives even right in front of their defenseless husband.
Look objectively at the fruits of islam since the time of Muhammad, today and tomorrow especially in afghanistan, pakistan, somalia, libya, yemen, syria etc. The net result is these radical muslims and like minded brethren never fail to blame non muslims for the untold miseries that they suffer from, which they themselves created. In the name of Allah, Muhammad and Islam, these misguided souls are murdering in cold blood with impunity non muslims and even muslims whom they labelled as not muslim enough.
False prophet Muhammad - the antichrist :
1 John 2:22-23
22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist-denying the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Allah (islamic) vs Muhammad : Are they rappers or are they rappists.
*[**33:50**]* O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.
*[**33:51**]* You, [O Muhammad], may put aside whom you will of them or take to yourself whom you will. And any that you desire of those [wives] from whom you had [temporarily] separated - there is no blame upon you [in returning her]. That is more suitable that they should be content and not grieve and that they should be satisfied with what you have given them - all of them. And Allah knows what is in your hearts. And ever is Allah Knowing and Forbearing.
*[**33:52**]* Not lawful to you, [O Muhammad], are [any additional] women after [this], nor [is it] for you to exchange them for [other] wives, even if their beauty were to please you, except what your right hand possesses.
*Sahih al-Bukhari 4138*
We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the invasion of Bun Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interruptus, we said: "How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah’s Apostle who is present among us? We asked (him) about it and he said: "It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul till the Day of Resurrection is predestined to exist, it will exist."
*Sahih Muslim Book 8 Hadith 3371*
Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women;
and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us;
why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- senger (Peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.
Great stuff! Jay, would you be able to do a 1-2 hour long conversation (i.e. a presentation with the ability to be interrupted by the host to ask question) about the historical development of Islam according to the critical evaluation of the historical data (textual, archeological, etc.)?
I'd want to set up a conversation like that that puts it all together. Obviously you can't get into all of the details, but the big picture overview with some of the critical / pivotal details that prove the standard narrative wrong would be great.
We'd have to talk about how the Quranic text came to be, how the religio-political landscape developed from Christian heretical / anti-trinitarian to Islamic. How the religious capital moved from Jerusalem to Petra to Mecca. What the historical basis for the mythical figure of muhammad is and how muhammad was shaped by the traditions (hadith, tafsir, etc.)
I wouldn't be the one to talk with you, but I'm wondering if you are interested. And maybe you have some sort of structure to that type of presentation in mind. Or do you maybe recommend someone else to do it?
Your approach is flawed.
There is no such thing as anti trinitarians. There is only anti polytheists.
Triniterians are anti Unitarians. That’s the correct wording.
People who use the words anti trinitarian in their claims. They have already a bias to shape history from an ‘orthodox Christian’ perspective.
The dome of the rock inscriptions are anti polytheism. The trinity happens to be polytheism.🫠
Yes, Absolutely!
Truth Matters
Nontrinitarianism is a form of Xtianity that rejects the mainstream theology of the Trinity. There was NOTHING Islamic with this in-fighting between Xtians.
Trinitarianism was definitively declared to be Xtian doctrine at the 4th-century ecumenical councils.
Nontrinitarian views differ widely on the nature of God, Jesus, and the Holy ghost. Various nontrinitarian philosophies, such as adoptionism and monarchianism existed prior to the codification of the Trinity doctrine in AD 325, 381, and 431, at the Councils of Nicaea, Constantinople, and Ephesus.[
Nontrinitarianism was later renewed by Cathars in the 11th through 13th centuries, in the Unitarian movement during the Protestant Reformation, in the Age of Enlightenment of the 18th century, and in some groups arising during the Second Great Awakening of the 19th century.
@@pfanderfilms I've tried reaching out via the Jay Show email
@@pfanderfilms If there's another way that is better to reach out to you, please let me know. I'd like to email you, but the only email I found is the jay show email, so I contacted you there
Is Muhammadun spelt in the same way in the present shahada and pronounced as Muhammad? Please clarify because your display does not show the Arabic shahada inscribed on the dome of the rock.
The red-check head-dress looks better. Blue might work also.
All the water comes piped in to Mecca from de-Salination plants nearJeddah.
It's a family squabble.
They are the worst kind.
The children of Ismael and Isaac continue to fight over this most sacred site.
ismael was jewish. He has nothing to do with arab or islam.
@@jonigudel6912
"Jewish" is of the tribe of Judah one of the 12 sons of Jacob.
Neither Abraham, Issac, Jacob or Ishmael were "Jewish" (of Judah).
@violetsplace524
I do
In fact, YHVH says to Abraham:
"Issac, your son, your ONLY son..."
Wow
😮😮This is Nut's😂
I See Al fadi his expression like he was a part of that scam and he’s frustrated right now 😂 (I was also)
So what’s the inscription say in English, never got that
It's in the description box above
If Muhammed was the first Muslim, who built the mosque?
The first Muslim it was Adam, Prophet Muhammad is the last prophet where the is completed given by God to him
@@owattavlog-2516 Mohammed did the same thing as jesus but only jesus did the miracles. You only get to the father through me. When Mohammed died they let his body rot after 3 days to see if he would be resurrected xp.
Before the mirage, how times did Muslim pray?
Alhamdulillah! this material should be compiled and taught in schools and universities. Jazakallah!
I have heard that the fact is that the so called Temple Mount was where the Roman Fortress Antonia was located and the Temple was actually elsewhere based on descriptions of its location in scripture that included a particular water source. What’s your thought on this?
The Antonia Fortress was a citadel built by Herod the Great and named for Herod's patron Mark Antony, as a fortress whose chief function was to protect the Second Temple. It was built in Jerusalem at the eastern end of the so-called Second Wall, at the north-western corner of the Temple Mount.
From where did the Bible come from, and to whom it was being sent to? Who was the sender, and who was the recipient? -06-15-23
What is a Kebla?
A side that facing mecca in saudi, muslim facing the black stone kaabah when they do pray 5x a day
The NT GOSPELS - Evidence of Author's & Dates Written
▪︎ Matthew - A tax collector who became Jesus' apostle and wrote about the life of Jesus as the Messiah for the Jewish community c. 60 AD.
▪︎ Mark - A Jew, and a companion of Peter and Paul, who wrote for both Jews and Gentiles about Christ's death and resurrection c. 60 AD.
▪︎ Luke - A Gentile doctor, and a companion of Peter and Paul who wrote for the Gentiles about Christ the saviour for humankind. c. 60 AD
▪︎ Luke - also wrote the Acts of the Apostles c. 60 AD.
▪︎ John - The 'beloved' apostle of Jesus, wrote in his later years about the Word who took on Flesh (John 1:1,14) c. 80-90 AD.
▪︎ John - also wrote 3 Letters and The Book of Revelations c. 80-90 AD.
▪︎ James - Jesus' cousin, wrote 1 letter c. 35 AD.
▪︎ Paul - wrote 13 letters c.49 - 65 AD.
▪︎ Jude - wrote 1 letter c. 65 AD.
▪︎ Peter - wrote 2 letters c. 67 AD.
▪︎ The author of The Letter to Hebrews is unknown c. 65 AD.
(Wikipedia).
▪︎ Jesus Christ's' ministry occurred between 27-30 A.D.
▪︎ Christianity began after the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus Christ when thousands of Jews became followers of 'The Way' (Jesus).
▪︎ The New Testament scholar, F.F. Bruce, gives strong historical evidence that the New Testament was completed by A.D. 100.
▪︎ Most writings of the New Testament were completed twenty to forty years before 100 AD. (Wikipedia).
▪︎ The apostles and their companions wrote the New Testament from their first-hand experiences with Jesus.
New Testament integrity is supported by historians, biblical and textual scholars, along with thousands of early codices, manuscripts and the Dead Sea Scrolls, proving the validity and preservation of the Gospels written between c. 35-90 A.D
(Eusebius, Church History 111. 39 .15; Irenaeus Against Heresies, 111.1)
INTERNAL Evidence:
▪︎ The internal evidence supports these early dates for several reasons. The first three Gospels prophesied the fall of the Jerusalem Temple which occurred in A.D. 70. However, the fulfillment is not mentioned. It is strange that these three Gospels predict this major event but do not record it happening. Why do they not mention such an important prophetic milestone? The most plausible explanation is that it had not yet occurred at the time Matthew, Mark, and Luke were written.
▪︎ In the book of Acts, the Temple plays a central role in the nation of Israel. Luke writes as if the Temple is an important part of Jewish life. He also ends Acts on a strange note: Paul living under house arrest.
It is strange that Luke does not record the death of his two chief characters, Peter and Paul. The most plausible reason for this is that Luke finished writing Acts before Peter and Paul's martyrdom in A.D. 64. A significant point to highlight is that the Gospel of Luke precedes Acts, further supporting the traditional dating of c. A.D. 60.
Most scholars agree Mark precedes Luke, making Mark's Gospel even earlier.
▪︎ Finally, the majority of New Testament scholars believe that Paul's epistles are written from A.D. 48-60. Paul's outline of the life of Jesus matches that of the Gospels.
1 Corinthians is one of the least disputed books regarding its dating and Pauline authorship.
In 1Corinthians chapter 15, Paul summarizes the gospel and reinforces the premise that this is the same gospel preached by the apostles.
Paul quotes from Luke's Gospel in 1 Timothy 5:18, showing us that Luke's Gospel was indeed completed in Paul's lifetime. This would move the time of the completion of Luke's Gospel along with Mark and Matthew.
This Internal Evidence presents a strong case for the early dating of the Gospels.
EXTERNAL Evidence - Gospel Dates:
▪︎ Were the Gospels written by eyewitnesses of the events, or were they not recorded until centuries later? As with the internal evidence, the external evidence also supports a first century date.
▪︎ Fortunately, New Testament scholars have an enormous amount of ancient manuscript evidence. The documentary evidence for the New Testament far surpasses any other work of its time, with over 5000 manuscripts, and many are dated within a few years of their authors' lives.
KEY documents:
▪︎ Chester Beatty Papyri contains most of the N.T. writings, and is dated around A.D. 250.
▪︎ The Bodmer Papyri contains most of John, and dates to A.D. 200.
▪︎ Rylands Papyri that was found in Egypt and contains large fragments of John, and dates to A.D. 130.
From this fragment we can conclude that John was completed well before A.D. 130 because, not only did the gospel have to be written, it had to be hand copied and make its way down from Greece to Egypt.
The majority of scholars agree that John is the last gospel written, so we can affirm its first century date along with the other three with greater assurance.
EARLY New Testament Papyrus Manuscripts:
▪︎ Dead Sea Scrolls, the Full Text of Isaiah 53 and a portion of every book, c. 250 BC.
▪︎ Old Testament Greek Septuagint c. 200 BC.
▪︎ P52 (John Rylands Fragment) - John 18:31-33; 37-38 c. 96 AD
▪︎ P90 (Oxyrhynchus) - John 18:36; 19:7 c. 96 AD
▪︎ P104 (Oxyrhynchus) - Matthew 21:34-37, 43, 45 c. 60-65 AD
▪︎ P46 (Chester Beatty Papyrus) - Romans 5:17-6; 5-14; 8:15-25; 27-35; 10:1-11, 22, 24-33, 35; 16:1-23; 25-27.
And Hebrews; 1 & 2; Corinthians; Ephesians; Galatians; Philippians; Colossians; 1 Thessalonians 1:1, 9-10; 2:1-3; 5:5-9, 23-28 c. 50’s-70’s AD
▪︎ P98 (IFAO) - Revelation 1:13; 2:1 c. 90 AD
▪︎ P66 (Bodmer Papyrus) - John 1:1-6,11; 6:35; 14:26; fragment of 14:29; 21:9 c. 70’s AD
▪︎ P67 Matthew 3:9, 15; 5:20-22; 25-28 c. 60-65 AD
▪︎ Evidence also comes from the Dead Sea Scrolls Cave 7.
Jose Callahan discovered a large fragment of the Gospel of Mark and dated it to have been written in A.D. 50. Also large fragments of Acts and other epistles and dated them to have been written slightly after A.D. 50.4
Another line of evidence is the writings of the church fathers.
▪︎ CLEMENT of Rome sent a letter to the Corinthian church in A.D. 95. in which he quoted from the Gospels and other portions of the N.T.
▪︎ IGNATIUS, Bishop of Antioch, wrote a letter before his martyrdom in Rome in A.D. 115, quoting all the Gospels and other N.T. letters.
▪︎ POLYCARP wrote to the Philippians in A.D. 120 and quoted from the Gospels and N.T. letters.
▪︎ JUSTIN MARTYR, A.D. 150 quotes John 3. Church fathers of the early second century were familiar with the apostle's writings and quoted them as inspired Scripture.
▪︎ Early dating is important for two reasons. The closer a historical record is to the date of the event, the more likely the record is accurate. Early dating allows for eyewitnesses to still be alive when the Gospels were circulating to attest to their accuracy.
The apostles often appeal to the witness of the hostile crowd, pointing to their knowledge of the facts as well (Acts 2:22, 26:26).
Also, the time is too short for legends to develop.
Historians agree it takes about two generations, or eighty years, for legendary accounts to establish themselves.
From the evidence, we can conclude the Gospels were indeed written by the authors they are attributed to.
THE First Fully Bound Bible Books/Codices
▪︎ Codex Vaticanus: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 280 - 330 AD
▪︎ Codex Siniaticus: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 300 - 350 AD
▪︎ Codex Alexandrius: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 350 - 400 AD
▪︎ Codex Vulgate: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 380 - 400 AD
JESUS and the Jews were multilingual
▪︎ "Pilate had a notice prepared and fastened to the cross.
It read: 'JESUS Of NAZARETH, THE KING Of THE JEWS'.
Many of the Jews read this sign, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and the sign was written in Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin and Greek" (John 19:19-20)
▪︎ The Gospels were written in Koine Greek being the World's language in the 1st century
The Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek (Septuagint) c.200 BC for the many Greek speaking Jews
It is well known that first-century Jerusalem was inhabited by Greek speaking Jews who were at least bilingual. And Jesus most likely was trilingual apart from the ability to read minds.
So the original Gospels were written in Koine Greek and sent throughout the World..
▪︎ Jewish culture was heavily influenced by Hellenistic culture, and Koine Greek was used not only for international communication but also as the first language of many Jews. This development was furthered by the fact that the largest Jewish community in the world lived in Ptolemaic Alexandria. (Wikipedia)
GOD Protects His Sacred Words:
▪︎ "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!
As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!" (Galatians 1:8-9).
▪︎ Jesus said, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away" (Matt 24:35).
▪︎ God protects His Word the Gospels and warns of antichrists..
▪︎ Christ's Good News of Salvation, His Birth, Crucifixion and Resurrection hasn't changed for 2000 years.
▪︎ The Gospels are evidenced by internal and external historical, archeological & literary facts.
▪︎ The Gospels are reliable and transparent with any variations transparently referenced in the footnotes.
▪︎ The Gospels have 1000 times more manuscripts than the most documented ancient literature by Greco-Roman historian, Suetonius.
▪︎ The Bible is the most comprehensive and reliable source about 1st century Jerusalem history and used by archaeologists for supporting research and evidence today..
Hallelujah...
like Islam you are redacting history to fit your agenda. The gospels are anonymous, nobody knows who wrote them!
Thank you very much indeed, great work
@@tommyrotton9468 A useful distinction one can make is between assertion and argumentation. An argument involves presenting evidence in order to make a logical case for your view.
Furthermore, Mark and Luke were rather minor characters in the early church, and their names would not have added credibility to the gospels attributed to them.
Were the authors of the four accounts of the Resurrection-Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, together with Paul and Peter in their letters-honest? There is general consensus that Mark and Luke were almost certainly the writers of the Gospels that bear their name. There is no doubt that all were dedicated followers of the man Jesus Christ.
Put in another way, the writings of these five men contain some of the highest moral and ethical teaching the world has known. If these men were not honest, then they represent a baffling contradiction of what they themselves were proclaiming.
EARLY Church Fathers - Confirm NT Authors Matthew, Mark, Luke & John
▪︎ Matthew - A tax collector who became Jesus' apostle and wrote about the life of Jesus as the Messiah for the Jewish community c. 60 AD.
▪︎ Mark - A Jew, and a companion of Peter and Paul, who wrote for both Jews and Gentiles about Christ's death and resurrection c. 65 AD.
▪︎ Luke - A Gentile doctor, and a companion of Peter and Paul who wrote for the Gentiles about Christ the saviour for humankind.
▪︎ Luke - also wrote the Acts of the Apostles c. 65 AD.
▪︎ John - The 'beloved' apostle of Jesus, wrote in his later years about the Word who took on Flesh (John 1:1,14) c. 80-90 AD.
▪︎ John - also wrote 3 Letters and The Book of Revelations c. 80-90 AD.
▪︎ James - Jesus' half brother, wrote 1 letter c. 35 AD.
▪︎ Paul - wrote 13 letters c.50 - 67 AD.
▪︎ Jude - wrote 1 letter c. 65 AD.
▪︎ Peter - wrote 2 letters c. 67 AD.
▪︎ The author of The Letter to Hebrews is unknown c. 65 AD.
(Wikipedia).
▪︎ Jesus Christ's' ministry occurred between 27-30 A.D.
▪︎ Christianity began after the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus Christ when thousands of Jews became followers of 'The Way' (Jesus).
▪︎ The New Testament scholar, F.F. Bruce, gives strong historical evidence that the New Testament was completed by A.D. 100.
▪︎ Most writings of the New Testament were completed twenty to forty years before 100 AD. (Wikipedia).
▪︎ The apostles and their companions wrote the New Testament from their first-hand experiences with Jesus.
New Testament integrity is supported by historians, biblical and textual scholars, along with thousands of early codices, manuscripts and the Dead Sea Scrolls, proving the validity and preservation of the Gospels written between c. 35-90 A.D
(Eusebius, Church History 111. 39 .15; Irenaeus Against Heresies, 111.1)
▪︎ Eusebius & The Testimony of Clement:
▪︎ Eusebius, writing at the end of the third century specifically credits the four Gospels to the four writers, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John .
▪︎ Eusebius didn't make the connection himself but quoted from earlier works such as Clement of Alexandria.
▪︎ Clement of Alexandria lived 100 years before Eusebius and held that Mark wrote his Gospel, taken from the teaching of Peter. He also notes that this Mark is the one Peter mentions in 1 Peter 5:13 (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History 2.15.1-2).1.
He later states that Mark's writing of the Gospel happened while Peter was still alive (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History 6.16.6).2
The Testimony of Papias:
▪︎ While Clement's writings bring us to within a century of the Gospels' composition, Eusebius quotes and even earlier source, the writer Papias. Richard Bauckham notes that Papias' writings, while composed probably around 110AD are reflections from his earlier investigations as he collected oral reports from disciples who sat under either the apostles' direct disciples or the apostles themselves. Bauckham notes "the period of which he is speaking must be around 80CE."3 According to Craig Blomberg, Papias states Mark, who served as Peter's interpreter, "wrote accurately all that he remembered, not indeed, in order, of the things said and done by the Lord."4
▪︎ Similarly, we have early support for the other authors as well.
Blomberg notes that Papias tells us that Matthew wrote his gospel "alleging that he originally wrote the ‘sayings' of Jesus in the Hebrew dialect" 5
Irenaeus, who lived just after Papias confirms that Matthew wrote his gospel and did so early: "Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect, while Peter and Paul were preaching at Rome, and laying the foundations of the Church" (Against Heresies 3.1.1).
▪︎ Clement of Alexandria, in the same Eusebius passage where he confirms Mark authorship also confirms Luke and John's authorship of their gospels.
There is a strong chain of testimony linking Matthew, Mark, Luke and John as the men to the Gospel accounts.
References:
1. See this passage in the Christian Classics Ethereal Library digital version of the Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers at www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.vii.xvi.html.
2. Christian Classics Ethereal Library, www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.xi.xiv.html.
3. Bauckham, Richard. Jesus and the Eyewitnesses: The Gospels as Eyewitness Testimony. Grand Rapids, MI: William B. Eerdmans Pub., 2006. Print. 14.
4. Blomberg, Craig. The Historical Reliability of the Gospels. Second ed. Leicester, England: Inter-Varsity, 2007. Print. 25.
5. Blomberg, 26.
THE Early Church Fathers Confirm The Gospel Authors:
▪︎ Justin Martyr, who was writing from Rome in around 150 AD.“In the memoirs [=Gospels], which I say have been composed by the apostles and those who followed them”… (Dialogue with Trypho, 103.8.)
▪︎ Irenaeus of Lyon, which is in modern-day France.
Around 180 AD, Irenaeus wrote: "Then [after the publication of the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke] John, the disciple of the Lord, who had even rested on his breast, himself also gave forth the Gospel, while he was living at Ephesus in Asia” (Cited in Eusebius, Church History 5:8, compare Irenaeus, Against Heresies 3.1.1.)
▪︎ Irenaeus writes: “I can even describe the place where the blessed Polycarp used to sit and discourse - his going out, too, and his coming in - his general mode of life and personal appearance, together with the discourses which he delivered to the people; also how he would speak of his familiar intercourse with John, and with the rest of those who had seen the Lord; and how he would call their words to remembrance” (Fragments from the Lost Writings of Irenaeus, Chapter 2)
▪︎ The Muratorian Fragment lists 22 of the 27 books that were later included in the New Testament. It’s dated to around 180 AD. Here’s what it says about John’s Gospel:
“The fourth of the Gospels is that of John, [one] of the disciples. To his fellow disciples and bishops, who had been urging him [to write], he said, “Fast with me today for three days, and what will be revealed to each one let us tell it to one another.” On the same night, it was revealed to Andrew, [one] of the apostles, that John should write down all things in his own name while all of them should review it” (Muratorian Canon of Rome, nos. 9-16)
▪︎ Clement of Alexandria, who was also writing around 180 AD. Regarding John’s Gospel, Clement says:
“Of all those who had been with the Lord only Matthew and John left us their recollections (hypomnēmata), and tradition says that they took to writing perforce…. John, it is said, used all the time a message which was not written down, and at last took to writing for the following cause. The three gospels which had been written down before were distributed to all including himself; it is said he welcomed them and testified to their truth but said that there was only lacking to the narrative the account of what was done by Christ at first and at the beginning of the preaching…. They say accordingly that John was asked to relate in his own gospel the period passed over in silence by the former evangelists” (Cited in Eusebius, Church History, 3.24.1-13)
▪︎ So Clement tells us that John specifically went out of his way to give us information that was not already adequately told Synoptics.
▪︎ Tertullian of Carthage, which is in modern-day Tunisia, who was writing around 207 AD. Tertullian wrote:
“We lay it down as our first position, that the evangelical Testament has apostles for its authors…. Of the apostles, therefore, John and Matthew first instill faith into us; whilst of apostolic men, Luke and Mark renew it afterwards” (Against Marcion 4.2)
▪︎ According to the majority viewpoint, the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, collectively referred to as the Synoptic Gospels, are the primary sources of historical information about Jesus and of the religious movement he founded.[19][20][21]
The fourth gospel, the Gospel of John, differs greatly from the first three gospels. Historians often study the historical reliability of the Acts of the Apostles when studying the reliability of the gospels, as Acts was seemingly written by the same author as the Gospel of Luke.
▪︎ Among scholars, a growing majority considers the Gospels to be in the genre of Ancient Greco-Roman biographies,[22][23] the same genre as Plutarch’s Life of Alexander and Life of Caesar.
Typically, ancient biographies written shortly after the death of the subject include substantial history.[22] Some biblical scholars view Luke’s Gospel as ancient history rather than ancient biography.[23]
References:
19 a b c Sanders, E. P. (1993). The Historical Figure of Jesus. Penguin. ISBN 978-0-14-192822-7. Archived from the original on 2017-04-18. Retrieved 2017-08-29.
20 "The Synoptic Gospels, then, are the primary sources for knowledge of the historical Jesus" "Jesus Christ." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2010. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. 27 November 2010 [1] Archived 2015-05-03 at the Wayback Machine.
21 Vermes, Geza. The authentic gospel of Jesus. London, Penguin Books. 2004.
22 a b Keener, Craig S. "Otho: A Targeted Comparison of Suetonius's Biography and Tacitus's History, with Implications for the Gospels' Historical Reliability." Bulletin for Biblical Research (2011): 331-355. Penn State University Press. See Abstract. www.jstor.org/stable/26424373?seq=1
23 a b Licona, Michael R. Why Are There Differences in the Gospels?: What We Can Learn from Ancient Biography. Oxford University Press, 2016. p.3
Amen..
Hallelujah....
@@louiesafi3116 incorrect, early Church Fathers added the names but like I wrote before, the Gospels were all written anonymously. There are lots of honest books about the religious Christian history, they weren't trying to be dishonest, they just couldn't prove anything so they had to prey they were right.
It looks like Jay Smith and Abdul Fadi become irritatingly jealous when they could read something beautiful are written about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). What they want is that all writers would always go by their line of thinking of always finding faults against Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), and that what they should write will always be about his bad sides.
If only they have a supernatural power to squeeze the intelligence of Michael H. Hart and the likes of him, they would do so to make them write anything negative only about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). What they lose sight of the fact is that they cannot suppress the intelligence of the writers and their independence to write. They cannot make them succumbed to their evil motives. -06-10-23
This is awesome! Come on guys its time to submit to this revelation from YHVH - His praised one Yeshua is not YHVH!!!! This teaching has confirmed my belief that Yeshua is not God almighty! amen
Jesus is the Rock, he will turn the Dome of the Rock to the DOOM of the Rock hehe.
Just one problem he didn't build the Done of the Rock he just reform it, this buildings complex was build by the emperor Hadrian just look at the BaalBek temple complex is exactly the same, why people keep ignoring this?
Because you talk nonsense.
The Temple Mount was the location of the Temple of Zeus when the Jews were released from the Babylonian captivity c. 538 BCE. The Jews were provided the location of Hebron to settle down.
C. 160 CE - Judas Maccabeus defeated the rulers in 'Judaea', and gained control of the Temple Mount. Judas then established the Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount.
70 CE - the rulers destroyed the Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount.
135 CE - the Temple of Zeus was reestablished on the Temple Mount.
C. 315 CE - The believers in Greek gods in Judaea were all converted to Christianity. The Temple went into disuse.
639 CE - 'Umar ibn al-Khattab of the Nazarene sect reestablished the Nazarene (Jewish + Messiah) Sanctuary on the Temple Mount. This remained in Nazarene hands all the way to the Crusader times.
C. 14th century - Muslims gained control of the Temple Mount shrine.
Sahadat is swearing of confession to Allah.
The Navajo have worshipped the great peacemaker for thousands of years. Below the peacemaker are the "twelve" men that bring peace into the home. Perhaps they started this all?
Astro-Theology.
@FOUNDATIONAL HIP HOP Tell me the difference between the twelve men and twelve deciple's. Or is everyone saying the same dam thing.
@@paulwolf8444 It's the same. As Joseph Campbell said "The Symbols change, but the Meanings are the Same"
@@paulwolf8444 it's almost as if there was an old testament event that explains precisely why people all over the globe built similar structures in antiquity... had the same constellations... all talk about giants and a great flood that did them in...
But I'm just babel-ing on about nothing.
🥂
Its not the eyes that are blind its the heart
Great research. Always better substance when not used to ridicule Muslims.
i can debunk his 1 video in 1 line
@@aquagaming3480 And yet you don't provide the line. Strange contribution !
@@nitram46 i can if i went and he also make a video on kaba death and adam and eve and angle buried them its simple when adam was dead there was no kaba kaba was build long after.
@@aquagaming3480 Thanks for explaining. But I don't quite understand how that refutes the video content. The Kaba (Kaʿbah) is in Mecca. The video is on Dome mosque in Jerusalem.
@@nitram46 I asked I can debunk 1 video I didn't say this sure I will see this video again to debunk this
What the « Hebrew » would have to do with « Petra » ? 😳
This is the problem when Moslems are taught to never ask questions, or risks being charged with blasphemy.
that, and they are told only say good things about Islam or receive violence from Islam.
like Mormonism
You don’t ask questions. That’s why you blindly accept the non academic crap of Jay Smith.
@@alonzoharris9049 ahhhh! The specific smell of foul air has arrived!!!
Our regular Abdul troll!!!
@@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
Do you agree with Jay Smith?
Show me some ‘critical thinking’.
John 8:58 ►
(Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
Yeshua said to them: “Timeless truth I speak to you: Before Abraham would exist, I AM THE LIVING GOD.”
STOP YOUR LYING
There is NO ''the living god''😅
The meaning of the names are important and revealing
Jay should stop schooling the host. He is questioning him like a pupil. Al Fadi knows very well the Miʿraj.
You are correct. My apologies...
GREAT thankyo [ altho i hope zealots are impressed and not ,.... well y ko
According to Jay Smith is that he believed that there is really ONE ORIGINAL GOSPEL. Since he cannot find it, he assumed that the gospel of John is already that book. But his is only mere assumption. He failed to make any clear evidence to show that his assumption is correct. Hence, he has to show manuscripts in Aramaic as evidence for his assumption that the gospel of John is the already real Gospel of Pophet jESUs (pbuh).
By his hasty assumption, he undoubtedly discarded the gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke into useless books which have no more meaning to the whole Christendom, and hence not fit to be used as the basis of the religiosity of the Christians. -06-02-23
This is a dilemma, if we want all Muslims to believe in being followers of Jesus, we must acknowledge Abdul Malik's intention and purpose when he wrote the original inscriptions.
You can't stop ISLAM ☝
ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR
@@owattavlog-2516 When you stand before Jesus on judgment day, will your "Allahu akbars" save you?
@@Draezeth Yes! God will
@@owattavlog-2516 so u can’t prove Jay wrong. We get it.
Ps: why are u chanting allh is a mouse?
@@owattavlog-2516 I like it when abdoools are using capital letters and repetition, it means they're extremely offended. Which is the first stage to leave islame.
Why are you still muslim my friend? What is holding you back from leaving? We know you are full of doubts, it is obvious from your comment.
WHY IS JAY AND AL-FADI NOT TELLING THE TRUE STORY
about the DOME OF THE ROCK?
DID YOU KNOW
that a partly built Temple Edifice was there on the Temple Mount the Persians allowed the Jews to rebuild when they defeated the Byzantines in 610AD....?
And this was the ''Furthest Mosque'' the Quran is referring to when Mohammad (saw) made the Izra and Miraj.
Xtians torn down this Temple Edifice and made the Temple Mount a RUBBISH DUMP where they deliberately emptied their buckets of shit💩and other waste.
Muslims came to clean-up the mess, found the Foundation Stone and built a Dome over it and then Al Aqsa Mosque which means ''Furthest Mosque'' in A.D. 637, just five years after Mohammad (saw)'s death.
❤Genesis 12:3 = Matthew 25:31-46❤
❤Christians ✝️ speak of scriptures as being this or that as a salvation issue, here Jesus made this a salvation issue Himself in Matthew 25:31-46.
😊No teasing out scriptures or extrapolations needed, it's as plain as the Sun shine 😊
❤Jesus made this a salvation issue in Matthew 25:31-46, and before He returns I'd recommend ministering the same.❤ God bless you on your journey ❤️
Almost had a stroke reading that
@Jesus is king 🙂 Some will have worse, if they are into antisemitism with harmful intent.
Other than that, it's to encourage people to be supportive is what Matthew 25:31-46 is saying.
How many walls are there in the Dome of the Rock ? Eight . How many walls are in Peters home in Capernaum ? Eight 😊
Moses Hu Akbar!
Every time Muslims pray only 5 times a day instead of 50 they are demonstrating that the wisdom of Moses was greater than that of Allah. And Allah by changing the number from 50 to 10, and 10 to 5 admitted that he was wrong and Moses knew better.
Al lah mean God in the Arabic launguage.. so dont mock God
@@eliyah3320 you are absolutely wrong. Al-lah(moon-god) is Aramaic not Arabic are you illiterate? God in Arabic is rab, not Al-lah(moon-god). Go and learn illiterate.😂😂😂😂.
@@eliyah3320 Lah is the name of a moon 🌙 god. It is not the real God.
Even if Al Lah was the real God it is Islam that makes a mockery of him by comparing him to a market trader haggling with Muhammad over the number of prayers, commanding angels to commit shirk prostrating to Adam, not remembering that Satan is supposed to be a jinn and not an angel, not remembering the order or duration of creation from Surah 7:54 to Surah 41:9- 12 , giving nonsense like the verse of abrogation that contradicts what Muslims claim about preservation of the Qur'an and saying virtually that Allah sent inferior verses first and was later able to send better verses etc etc etc etc
@O Prophet Is fake Angels is also a jinni And jinn is spirit.
Even God is the father of spirits blessed is he for ever more.
The title Lah is found even at the time of David 1 king 22:8 Imlah (whom God will fill up) the father of Micha...
And no Al lah is not any moon God but the title of the Arabic word for God.
Like Elahi is in Aramaic for my God.
Anyway, no mockery and profan utterings should ever come out of us as believers. And what is it worth if we have all insight but no love and peace.
Give me love and peace... Then I have learned much truth
What is truth is true. And the truth is that the Quran holds many truths even thou their be things not true in it...
But seek to be a person of peace great in the fruit of the spirit. Salam to you
@@eliyah3320 That is not Islamic teaching. Islam teaches that angels and jinns are different kinds of being.
Even if they are different kinds of spirit beings you cannot command angels to prostrate before Adam, and then rightly blame any jinn for not obeying, when that kind of spirit being was never given the command according to Muslim mythology.
The whole story is a terrible mistelling of a previous Jewish tale. In Christianity and Judaism we understand that demons are fallen angels, so fallen angels would be included in any order given to angels. But in Islam it looks like Allah doesn't know what he is doing.
In the original Jewish tale, it takes the idea of Adam being made in the image of God physically, and so the angels are never ordered to bow down to Adam but do it because they mistake Adam, made in the image of God, with God himself.
The idea of angels bowing down to Adam as they would to God Himself is anathema, it is abhorrent. But that is the idea given in the Qur'an. It actually makes Allah the first idol maker.
Is it not worth pondering upon as to why the ORIGINAL ARAMAIC GOSPEL cannot still be produced by the Christian scholars up to now? If I were a Christian, I would give a second look on my faith since I have no book from God to serve as my basis for my spirituality and religiosity. I would not hesitate to give a second thought by questioning the genuineness of the source of my faith which come only from the opinions and ideas of different men.
How could it be that their words become the words of God? Am I in the right track? Or, should I now shift lane to erase the doubts bothering me? Or, should I choose procrastination until the original Aramaic Gospel would surface from oblivion?
But my end is getting nearer and nearer every day. I have to act now and waste not a second. I have to choose the religion whose book comes from God. With that, I am sure that I am following the words of God, and not the words of men. I am certain now that I have a better place to go to. Paradise. -06-11-23
Al aqsa mosque is the Holy site for Muslims in Jerusalem not the dome of rock mosque..
probably, previously a christian church
According to Jay Smith the LETTERS OF PAUL are just MERE TAFSEER of the Old Testament and “other scriptures” (?). Tafseer means interpretation. If the letters of Paul are just mere tafseer, why is it they become the main core of the New Testament which comprised 90 percent of it. These should be written in a separate book. In the Islamic standard, no single tafseer is included in the Holy Qur’an. Hence, the letters of Paul must be written in a separate book.
Jay Smith failed not elaborate as to what specific book or verse/s in the Old Testament that each letter is intended to for being a tafseer. He should have elaborated on the following letters of Paul:
LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT CHURCHES:
1). Romans - tafseer of what is it intended for?
2). Hebrews - tafseer of what is it intended for?
3). Corinthians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
4). Galatians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
5). Colossians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
6). Philippians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
7). Ephesians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
8). Thessalonians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS:
1). Timothy - tafseer of what is it intended for?
2). Titus - tafseer of what is it intended for?
3). Philemon - tafseer of what is it intended for?
4). James - tafseer of what is it intended for?
5). John - tafseer of what is it intended for?
6). Jude - tafseer of what is it intended for?
7). Peter - tafseer of what is it intended for? -06-03-23
Just for informataion.
1- Moses did tell Muhammad a.s. at last to go back, to which Muhammad s.a.w. replied saying that he was too shy to ask another time.
2- The Dome of the Rock isn't a mosque.
3- What kind of logical incapability or Islamic/Arabic ignorance are you expressing with the phrase: "It is a mosque. but guess what. it doesn't have a Qibla!'
Please. I don't even intend to finish the video. Now don't come here and say "Oh, another Muslim who is scared of the truth, too scared to finish the video." Don't embarrass yourself with these two circus clowns.
(If you saw this message disappear and reappear again after a while, it was because I realized I should look everything up again to be 100% certain.)
John 3 v 13 no one has gone into heaven
JESUS CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN!
Another contradiction in the standard Islamic narrative.
@@P.H.888
John 3:13 reads
No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven-the Son of Man.
THE CONTRADICTION😅
* Job 1:6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them
* in Revelation 12:10 Satan goes before God day and night.
So you're saying that Christians inadvertently created Islam by refusing to believe the trinity?
Kiblah is just a direction. Not a physical thing.
😮 OMG so call Expert !🙀 the 3rd holy Mosque is Al Aqsa Mosque! Not Dome of the Rock !
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Awesome! Now all we need is to debunk the non-Biblical and Pagan myths interwoven into the Roman Catholic church!!
You should provide examples or citations(verses) so that we can research.
@@nickd920
Zombies coming out of their graves and walking down the streets of Jerusalem at the time of Jesus' alleged cruciFICTION.
None of the Church Fathers would be allowed to preach in a Protestant church today, but any of them could preach in a Catholic church.
@@truthseeker9163What? And why exactly did you come to that erroneous presumption?
@@nickfirth4440 You should read the writings of the Church Fathers. Their theology was very Catholic/Orthodox, shockingly so to Protestants.
It’s important to do your own research and fact-check so you don’t get fooled…
In 638 CE, Byzantine Jerusalem was conquered by the Arab armies of Umar ibn al-Khattab, second Caliph of the Rashidun Caliphate. Umar was advised by Ka'b al-Ahbar, a Jewish rabbi who converted to Islam, that the site is identical with the site of the former Jewish Temples in Jerusalem. It was then that Umar ordered the rubbish on the Temple Rock to be removed by the Nabataeans, and after three showers of heavy rain had cleansed the Rock, he instituted prayers there. Umar is said to have fenced it and, some years later, the Umayyad Caliph Abd al-Malik built the Dome of the Rock over the site as an integral part of the Aqsa compound.
No the first shahada was not about Jesus because Muslims are told to believe in mohammad.
Muhammed was introduced by the Abbasids.
Yes - the Shahada was never part of any Xtian doctrine.
How I earnestly wish that there is now an original ARAMAIC GOSPEL because I am dying inside to read it. I hope there is a translation in English. It's hard to read it in its original form in Aramaic. I don't know that language. I think Aramaic is much harder to read than Arabic. I believe that this Gospel is a book of spiritual guidance from God. Unlike the 4 make-believe gospels, their contents are purely biographies of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) but with a huge hole in the accounts of his life covering the primetime of his age.
From what museum or library can we find the original ARAMAIC GOSPEL? Is there any original manuscript for it?
I am urging Jay Smith and his cohorts to produce that book as soon as possible so that Muslims and Christians alike will be enlightened. -05-31-23
READ THE QURAN - it's original from God as there is NO ORIGINALS from Xtianity or Judaism - the earliest ''manuscript'' from the NT is in Greek, P52, a piece of scrap the size of a credit card.
I have a physical copy / workbook of an Aramaic "Translation". It's out there but I forget where I got it from.
That would be the Gospel of Matthew.
Since I think you're referencing the Gospel which according to Irenaeus and Papias was originally "written among the Hebrews in their own dialect."
If you want an English translation of the Aramaic Matthew, try "The Aramaic English Translation" by Andrew Gabriel Roth
If you want the Aramaic manuscripts, then you can get "The Syriac Gospels, a critical edition" by P.E. Pusey and G.H. William.
@@BrianJohnson-lx3zd ...
The original Aramaic Gospel is not a book written by anybody as you are being got used to the Bible. It is a book sent down by God to Prophet jESUs (pbuh) to be preached to the children of Israel (Jews). It is a book of spiritual guidance. Its contents are purely revelations from God. And it is in Aramaic because the language spoken of by the recipient is Aramaic. And the target audience also spoke only Aramaic.
Not like the 4 make-believe gospels, their contents are nothing but the holey biographies of Prophet jESUs (pbuh). They are called gospels because they are deceptively labeled as such. Their appropriate labeling must be The Biography of Jesus by Mark, The Biography of Jesus by Matthew, The Biography of Jesus by Luke, The Biography of Jesus by John. -06-02-23
@@defenderoftruth3212 None of Jesus' original followers spoke of this "original Aramaic Gospel," where did you hear of it?
I don't understand... if you're trying to debunk Islam... Then why are you dressed like one of them?
The evil missionaries are that desperate.
بسم الله و الحمد لله و لا إله إلا الله و الله اكبر ولاحول ولاقوة الا بالله العلي
Jesus fake God
Jesus not exist
Jesus is fairy tale
Constructed between 685-691 CE under the Umayyad Caliph 'Abd al-Malik bin Marwan, the Dome of the Rock is the earliest Umayyad monument, as well as the oldest Islamic structure to survive intact to the modern period. The building is a shrine, and not a mosque. It is located on the Haram al-Sharif (Temple Mount) of Jerusalem, beside the al-Aqsa Mosque, whose first form had been built by the Caliph 'Umar.
there is difference between al-Aqsa Mosque(which is third holiest site in Islam) and dome of rock which is shrine.
i can understand why common people would confuses these two due to their close proximity but you are called scholar of history. you know these are different but you are just making argument in bad faith
Why no single Muslim hates Prophet jESUs (pbuh)? Why all Christians hate Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)? Muslims love all the prophets, including Prophet jESUs (pbuh). But Christians can hardly accord the same kind of love to them. Is it their innate attitude to love only Prophet jESUs (pbuh), and hate the other prophets. Is this an indication that their upbringing is to spread hate as being taught by their religion? Hate begets violence. It would mean therefore, that they are the forerunner of violence. -07-06-23
Shahada, jesus and christianity
And you think youd going to advance dying trinity
What a joke
The BIBLE in the eyes of JAY SMITH.
According to Jay Smith is that he believed that there is really ONE ORIGINAL GOSPEL. Since he cannot find it, he assumed that the gospel of John is already that book. But his is only mere assumption. He failed to make any clear evidence to show that his assumption is correct. Hence, he has to show manuscripts in Aramaic as evidence for his assumption that the gospel of John is the already real Gospel of Pophet jESUs (pbuh).
By his hasty assumption, he undoubtedly discarded the gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke into useless books which have no more meaning to the whole Christendom, and hence not fit to be used as the basis of the religiosity of the Christians.
According to Jay Smith the LETTERS OF PAUL are just MERE TAFSEER of the Old Testament and “other scriptures” (?). Tafseer means interpretation. If the letters of Paul are just mere tafseer, why is it they become the main core of the New Testament which comprised 90 percent of it. These should be written in a separate book. In the Islamic standard, no single tafseer is included in the Holy Qur’an. Hence, the letters of Paul must be written in a separate book.
Jay Smith failed not elaborate as to what specific book or verse/s in the Old Testament that each letter is intended to for being a tafseer. He should have elaborated on the following letters of Paul:
LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT CHURCHES:
1). Romans - tafseer of what is it intended for?
2). Hebrews - tafseer of what is it intended for?
3). Corinthians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
4). Galatians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
5). Colossians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
6). Philippians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
7). Ephesians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
8). Thessalonians - tafseer of what is it intended for?
LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS:
1). Timothy - tafseer of what is it intended for?
2). Titus - tafseer of what is it intended for?
3). Philemon - tafseer of what is it intended for?
4). James - tafseer of what is it intended for?
5). John - tafseer of what is it intended for?
6). Jude - tafseer of what is it intended for?
7). Peter - tafseer of what is it intended for? -06-06-23
Jay, how often do you read your bible? The way you mock Moses is futile. Have you not read in Rev 15 that we how conquer and worship YHVH alone as the one true God and keep his commandments as Yeshua his anointed one taught us to do will sing the song of Moses and the song of the lamb in worship to YHVH the one alone who created the heavens and the earth and seas and all the things in them?
I saw another great and marvelous sign in heaven: seven angels having seven plagues that are the last ones, because with them the wrath of God is completed. 2 And I saw something like a sea of glass mixed with fire, and those who had conquered the beast and his image and the number of his name were standing by[a] the glassy sea, holding harps from God. 3 And they were singing the song of Moses, the slave of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying:
“Great and marvelous are your works,
Lord God All-Powerful ( a title NEVER used of Yeshua);
righteous and true are your ways,
King of the ages!
4 Who would never fear, Lord,
and glorify your name?
For only you are holy,
because all the nations will come
and worship before you,
because your righteous deeds have been revealed.”
Why is it the BIOGRAPHY of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) is TOTALLY HOLEY? And why the Christians are not fully aware about this HOLE? Is the story of the life of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) not important to them when in fact, they should oblige themselves to know every minute detail of it? What is the use of venerating him when they know only a little about him? As can be observed that in spite of the 4 narratives depicted in the 4 make-believe gospels, the 4 Greek writers failed to give the full account of the life of Prophet jESUs (pbuh).
The narrative started from year 1 which tells about his miraculous conception and his birth, and then it jumped immediately to year 30 which tells about his preaching of the Aramaic Gospel to the children of Israel (Jews), and ended in year 33 where he was allegedly crucified and ascended to heaven. 28 years from year 2 to year 29 which comprised the primetime of his life are unaccounted for. Indeed, what a BIG, BIG HOLE it is!!!
Such a man who hailed from a miraculous beginning cannot escape the curious and inquisitive eyes of the people. So, it could not be that there is no narrative for those 28 years. It could not be that out of his 33 years on earth, only 5 years were accounted for and having narrative. Those 28 years must have been replete with tremendous meaningful and wonderful activities. It could not be that after he ascended to heaven, people of his time blew all the memories about him into oblivion.
The story of such a man like him who is revered and venerated by the people cannot easily be forgotten. But why did the 4 Greek writers skip the account of the primetime of his life? Is there something fishy that needs to be hidden? One cannot help to cast doubt that there is really something fishy in the narratives of the biography of Prophet jESUs (pbuh). Indeed, I smell something fishy. -07-25-23
Thank you for increasing the views of this powerful Christian video.😂😅😮😊
Moses pleads Muhammad pbuh at 5 to reduce it further. But Muhammad pbuh was too shy.
Cmon Jay u can do much better. Even a child can correct u here
Then why in your quran it only 3x a day but hadist says 5x.. doesn't it contradict
It's interesting that the only sons of Abraham who call Jesus the Son of God are the Christians. Notice that in the bible, all the writers call Jesus, the Son of God except two - James and Jude (the flesh and blood brothers of Jesus).
John says, in his epistle, that whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God dwells in Him.
1 Jn. 4:15 - Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
James' epistle never refers to Jesus as the Son of God. James' church in Jerusalem was under HEAVY influence by the priests and Pharisees of that day. I'm quite sure that they weren't given to calling Jesus, the Son of God.
Jews and Ishmaelites don't confess Jesus as the Son of God. I find that interesting.
But are Christians really the "sons of Abraham" - They don't view God the way Abraham did.
@@JUSLOFI - Without Jesus, I don't have any right to the promises of God. But because I am in Him, I am a child of God and of the seed of Abraham.
Gal. 3:26-29 - For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
I think I view God just fine and dandy, thank you. Better yet, He views me as justified.
@@violetsplace524 - How about the BIBLE (you illiterate)?
Gal. 1:9 - But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
I know how to read and that makes me a liar? Did you vote for Biden? What the heck's wrong with you?
When you begin to approach my level of expertise in the word of God then we can chat. Until then: bye, Felicia!
Jesus debunks what many christians believe.
Jesus prayed TO the one God.
Jesus is NOT the one God.
witch Jesus?
Jesus the son of Mary virgin
or
Jesus the son of Mary sister of Aaron and daughter of Amran?
The one God is not a man that he has a mother.
Jesus is not the one God.
@@aaronharun1394H but the mother of Jesus in Quran is Mariam the sister of Aaron and the daughter of Amran: this family lived in Egypt 1400 years before the birth of the christ:
The name of Amram’s wife was Jochebed daughter of Levi, who was born to Levi in Egypt; she bore to Amram Aaron and Moses and their sister Miriam.
Num 26:59
The one God has no mother.
Jesus has a mother.
Jesus is NOT the one God.
Mary prayed to the one God.
Mary prayed to the same one God who Jesus prayed to.
Mary did not pray to baby Jesus who she carried in her womb, gave birth to and nursed.
Jesus did not pray to Jesus.
Jesus is NOT the one God.
Moses was smarter than Muhammad and Allah! And Burak, the flying donkey had more power than Muhammad! 😂😂😂
Jay Smith: ‘only trinitarians are Christians.’
Jay Smith: ‘AbdelMalik is a Christian but didn’t believe in the trinity.’ 🥴🤣
Sigh… Abdul troll. Too hard for you to understand much less accept right?
It’s obviously hard to grasp if you haven’t successfully graduated from kindergarten yet.
AbdelMalik would be a heretical Christian, but he would still be someone who would self identify as Christian despite disagreeing with Christian orthodoxy. So was he a Christian? Yes and no, depending on which sense of the word Christian you use. If by Christian you mean the family of religious thought that derives from the religious movement that Jesus started regardless of whether it is orthodox (true to Jesus' teachings and the writings of Scripture) or not, then yes. In this sense JW's and Mormons are Christians too. But in the sense of holding to the core doctrines of the Christian faith, he was not a Christian and neither are JW's and Mormons.
Hey buddy! So…I’m still waiting for you to bring me any historical evidence for Mecca in the 7th Century. Have you been busy? I’m just concerned because you haven’t given me this evidence that should be abundant. Look forward to it my friend!
@@truthmatters7573
You can’t play with definitions.
Your definition of a Christian is someone who accepts the trinity and creeds.
You claim at the same time that AbdelMalik is a Christian who doesn’t believe in the trinity.🤣
Why are Christians walking contradictions?
The religion Islam is literally inscribed in the same inscriptions on the dome of the Rock.
Christians are so desperate.🤣
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The trinity is three gods.