â Pick up the UX here: ui.com/cloud-gateways/express?a_aid=Apex If the UX is underpowered for you, check out the UCG-Ultra as a more powerful alternative: th-cam.com/video/4ABFqd8hO4w/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the overview. I am curious, would it be possible to add a TP Link Deco Mesh to this to extend the coverage? If so, how would you go about adding that?
I have a video coming on that next week but with a Netgear wifi router. You need to set your TP Link into "access point" mode. It'll need to be hardwired to the Express (or a switch off of the Express). However, if you have more than one of the TP Link Deco Mesh units, I'm not sure a second one will mesh to the first TP Link that's hardwired. A UniFi device (such as the Express) definitely won't mesh to it which is why you need to change your TP Link settings as I described, and hardwire it. Let me know if the meshing still works.
First off, really like your videos. Very informative. I have 3 of UX but want to add the Cloud Gateway Max. Can I continue to use the UXâs as plain APs?
Yes. You should be able to set them into "AP" mode. Will have to reset all of them. One of them will have to be wired the UCG Max (or via a switch) so that it can wirelessly mesh to the other UX APs if they're not all wired in.
I haven't tried it out yet but I'm sure it can support a flex mini on the other end but there's limitations if you're using several VLANs. The UX can be used an access point to an existing UniFi network and the LAN can cannot to another device, say a macbook via ethernet.
Hoping to get your help on this. Moving into a new home and I currently have a plethora of smart devices, work and home devices, etc. Iâm new to IT but learning more everyday. Iâm looking to segment the various devices on my home network utilizing VLAN. Originally I had in mind to purchase the Edgerouter X, a lite 8 Poe switch and 2 ap. 1 Ap for all my smart devices and guests. The other for my personal devices like my wifeâs iPad etc. my pc/work devices will be connected to the switch. Each all in their own vlan. For the vlan segmentation would this setup be solid or should I get an express, lite switch for expansion and an extra AP. Can the express act an access point as well as the controller? Saving me the $$ of buying 2 extra ap? Mind my knowledge if Iâm getting things mixed up here. Iâm just not sure which set up would be better.
How many WiFi devices total? If under that 60 range, itâll be great. If your square footage is under 1,300; the UniFi Express would be great. And yes, the Express is everything in one (the controller, and gateway, and WiFi access point). You shouldnât need two APs. And if you do, buy another AP, probably the U6 lite will do. Depends on your situation. Another more expensive setup can be your and UCG-Ultra and an access point like the U6. Watch my video on the UCG-Ultra. The UCG Ultra already has some ports built in. The Express only has one. But can add any switch as needed.
I have been wanting one of these but i cant seem to find some prepurchase information, i am curious if something like this can be used inbetween my Netcomm NF119ACV Router and the internet Box, basically i would the internet to go the unifi , and the unifi to go the router and the router to do VOIP The Netcomm's WAN Port has Bridge mode or IPOE, someone said u need the WAN Port to do DHCP, i think that is IPOE ( different name, same thing ) I am stuck behind an ISP who are strict about VOIP and require a bunch of settings for it to work, and the Express UX Doesnt have unifi talk
Dude first of all, I have watched basically every Unify video you've made this past week and I love your content. Best on TH-cam hands down for this kind of stuff. I had a question about this unit in particular. I know you can Mesh these together, but can you also Mesh them to a traditional AP, such as a U6 etc? I can't seem to find that info online. I don't have LAN in my downstairs hallway, so I just need a powered Mesh unit to go there.
Wow! Thanks! Yes, they mesh with other UniFi APs. And I would do what as you're saying, the "traditional" UniFi AP rather than the extender. Extender is easy but what's nice about the AP, is that if you'll ever want a better connection, you can run a Cat 6 line to that downstairs hallways to get power & data to that AP from your UX (although you'll need a PoE switch or PoE injector).
Yes! The other two will just turn into wireless access points only. During setup of the additional UXs, you just specific that you're added to an existing setup.
Very much enjoyed your TH-cam. I plan to use this to connect to 2 8PoE Lite Switches that connect and power my CloudKey+, 3 wired and 2 WiFi Protect Cameras in addition to a about about 10 WiFi devices. Will it handel all that? My current router is an Asus AC66U that is getting a liitle old in the tooth but currently does the job. Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you! With the UX (UniFi Express), you'll exceed the 5 unifi devices limit (including the UX itself). I would recommend you get the UDR (UniFi Dream Router). I probably have it linked in the description. If you have fast internet and want to use the Threat Detection in UniFi Network, then consider going with the UCG-Ultra and a UniFi Access Point since the UCG Ultra doesnt have built-in wifi. With Threat Detection, the UDR coudl be throttled down to as low as 300 Mbps but the UCG-Ultra can still be up to 1,000 Mbps. Let me know which way you decide to go.
@@ApexOneTech Thanks for the advise. I have an order in process for the express and I am attemting to cancel and wait for the UDR (UniFi Dream Router).
Question - My goal is to use the Wifiman app with lidar/heatmapping capability for my existing, non-UniFi network (on an Asus router). But in order for me to use the wifiman app, I need to have a Unifi cloud gateway enabled device. Is it possible to use the UX router as a simple switch by disabling the wifi and just using for purposes for Wifiman?
You can give it a try. But consider that the WiFiman Wizard (the add on hardware) cost less than a UX. And itâll let you scan any network. If you go the UX route, let us know if it works.
Older devices will work with WiFi 6 APs. The older devices will not benefit directly but more and more newer devices have WiFi 6. You would get WiFi 5 APs if youâre just trying to save money or sometimes save on energy (negligible difference at a home environment though).
Salut, am aflat de curant ca cei de la Ubiquity sunt top pe retelistica.Dream router nu se afla nicaieri in stoc, asa ca m-am orientat catre Unifi Express, este indeajuns pentru un apartament de 48m patrati? nu stiu daca o sa il pot pozitiona chiar in centru.
I will have UniFI Express and the Power Strip at my Airbnb in Jamaica. Can I manage the express remotely? or would I have to VPN into it? I have Dream Machine Pro and everything at the remote location.
If youâre set them up in the same account, then you can access them from your Unifi site manager no problem. And if not in the same account, you would need to be added as a user to whatever Unifi console youâre trying to connect to remotely.
Very informative video. I am planning to buy one. I have a question as I have Asus AX5400 at home right now and all the devices working fine with it. I want to isolate my iot devices from my main devices. To achieve that i want to use ubiquiti. My question is can i add asus 5400 to ubiquity wireless?
You can possibly make the asus router work as an access point wired in to the UniFi express. Check out my video where I did this with a netgear router How to Add a Non-UniFi WiFi Router to Your UniFi Cloud Gateway Network th-cam.com/video/3uVsDbu23Nc/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the video. My USG gateway died and I replaced it with UniFi express. My network was setup by someone that is no longer accessible. It consists of Unifi switch 8, two APC Lites and an AP AC In Wall. I have the Express setup but my concern is adopting the other devices. Is it as simple as connecting the switch to the express and adopting those devices. Thanks in advance.
If the person who setup your network did some advanced configuration, like VLANs, then it might be worth it to try to restore the backup from the USG if you have it. Otherwise, just start fresh. So yes, you can plug in the UX. Set it up as a new device. Then, you can plug in the switch and itâll prompt you to adopt to the new UX you just setup. The other unifi devices should also do that. Or theyâll say that youâll need to reset that device. Another option is just go and reset all your unifi devices (physically). Then, plug the switch to the UX, and add adopt your existing Unifi devices to the UX. That would be simple. Youâll of course, at minimum, would need to setup the same WiFi name and password on the APs you reset. One thing to note, is that youâll be at the maximum (4) additional Unifi devices that the UX can support. And 2, youâll most likely want to disable both WiFi radios on the UX since your existing network has setup enough APs and you donât want the UX WiFi to interfere.
Thanks for quick reply. I was wondering about the 4 device limitation. Doesnât the switch count a device or does everything connected through the switch plus the switch. If the later is the case, should I upgrade to the Dream Router or Ultra. I would like to add cameras down the road. Thanks again.
Kinda. You don't want two routers in your network. You would have to configure what each router does. Generally, if you have an ISP router, you would want to put it in bridge mode or IP passthrough. Let the unifi router do the work.
If you're adding on the UX as an access point to existing UniFi controller, then it should mesh with other UniFi APs that have meshing. I'm guessing, but haven't tested, that it'll also work if the UX is the controller.
I don't know if it'll work in true mesh mode but you can definitely connect an UniFi AP to the UX as the main controller. The LAN port is not POE so you'll most likely need a POE switch or POE injector to power the AP. You can add up to 4 UniFi devices to the UX when it's the controller so that means up to 4 APs if you're not using a UniFi POE switch (because that would also count towards the 4 limit).
Do you mean just to set it as a Unifi controller and then add your existing router to it? I'm not sure if that's possible. It might be possible if you can disable the UniFi Express (UX) routing because I'm quite confident it won't allow you to have two routers on one network. And if so, just bad practice and sounds like a mess. Why do you want to keep your existing router? or is it because it's also your wireless AP? If so, most of the wifi router combo units can just be set to be an access point only. So your UX can be the Unifi Controller and router, and then set your existing wifi router as just a wifi access point. If your existing router has additional ports, it's quite inexpensive to get a small switch. And even one with POE that your router most likely does not have.
Yeah for sure. I have non-Unifi POE switch attached to this one currently. Clients on the switch show up as wired connections but of course you donât have visibility of the switch ports in Unifi.
Yeah Unifi LTE Backup or the LTE Backup Pro should work with any Unifi gateway. Just goes into a LAN port. It's a bit different than a dual-WAN failover--which this doesn't have. As an example, the UCG Ultra does have dual WAN.
@@ApexOneTech I see now that @Voiceguitar wrote "wifi 6 band". My brain read that as 6 GHz band since wifi 6 is not a frequency band just a friendly name for the standard.
Not in every scenario, but yes if you have wired devices. I've deployed these at Airbnb's with just this UX and the UniFi SmartPower Strip. Add a flex mini if you just need an additional port.
For sure. It starts up slow butâs just for the entire console. Youâll be connected to the internet much sooner than that. So not too bad. Shouldnât need to reboot other than for updates anyways.
Really good content, but please please please no more unboxing!! You could briefly mention what comes in a box maybe, but people who come here for your content are not the type of people who are interested in the process of unboxing a product.
â Pick up the UX here: ui.com/cloud-gateways/express?a_aid=Apex
If the UX is underpowered for you, check out the UCG-Ultra as a more powerful alternative: th-cam.com/video/4ABFqd8hO4w/w-d-xo.html
Iâve ordered a couple myself for mesh so itâs nice to get an overview/quick tutorial. Many thanks for making the video!
Awesome! Thanks
Bedankt voor je zeer heldere uitleg. Je video is heel duidelijk en als beginner kom je veel te weten over de mogelijkheden.
Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks for the overview. I am curious, would it be possible to add a TP Link Deco Mesh to this to extend the coverage? If so, how would you go about adding that?
I have a video coming on that next week but with a Netgear wifi router.
You need to set your TP Link into "access point" mode. It'll need to be hardwired to the Express (or a switch off of the Express). However, if you have more than one of the TP Link Deco Mesh units, I'm not sure a second one will mesh to the first TP Link that's hardwired. A UniFi device (such as the Express) definitely won't mesh to it which is why you need to change your TP Link settings as I described, and hardwire it.
Let me know if the meshing still works.
First off, really like your videos. Very informative.
I have 3 of UX but want to add the Cloud Gateway Max. Can I continue to use the UXâs as plain APs?
Yes. You should be able to set them into "AP" mode. Will have to reset all of them. One of them will have to be wired the UCG Max (or via a switch) so that it can wirelessly mesh to the other UX APs if they're not all wired in.
When used as an access point via wire, is the LAN port still useable say to connect to a Flex Mini?
I haven't tried it out yet but I'm sure it can support a flex mini on the other end but there's limitations if you're using several VLANs. The UX can be used an access point to an existing UniFi network and the LAN can cannot to another device, say a macbook via ethernet.
Hoping to get your help on this. Moving into a new home and I currently have a plethora of smart devices, work and home devices, etc. Iâm new to IT but learning more everyday. Iâm looking to segment the various devices on my home network utilizing VLAN. Originally I had in mind to purchase the Edgerouter X, a lite 8 Poe switch and 2 ap. 1 Ap for all my smart devices and guests. The other for my personal devices like my wifeâs iPad etc. my pc/work devices will be connected to the switch. Each all in their own vlan. For the vlan segmentation would this setup be solid or should I get an express, lite switch for expansion and an extra AP. Can the express act an access point as well as the controller? Saving me the $$ of buying 2 extra ap? Mind my knowledge if Iâm getting things mixed up here. Iâm just not sure which set up would be better.
How many WiFi devices total? If under that 60 range, itâll be great. If your square footage is under 1,300; the UniFi Express would be great. And yes, the Express is everything in one (the controller, and gateway, and WiFi access point). You shouldnât need two APs. And if you do, buy another AP, probably the U6 lite will do. Depends on your situation. Another more expensive setup can be your and UCG-Ultra and an access point like the U6. Watch my video on the UCG-Ultra. The UCG Ultra already has some ports built in. The Express only has one. But can add any switch as needed.
I have been wanting one of these but i cant seem to find some prepurchase information, i am curious if something like this can be used inbetween my Netcomm NF119ACV Router and the internet Box, basically i would the internet to go the unifi , and the unifi to go the router and the router to do VOIP
The Netcomm's WAN Port has Bridge mode or IPOE, someone said u need the WAN Port to do DHCP, i think that is IPOE ( different name, same thing )
I am stuck behind an ISP who are strict about VOIP and require a bunch of settings for it to work, and the Express UX Doesnt have unifi talk
Please would you explain what âradiosâ and channelizationâ itâs on 25 min 27 of your video. Give a more in depth explanation.
Thank yoy
Dude first of all, I have watched basically every Unify video you've made this past week and I love your content. Best on TH-cam hands down for this kind of stuff. I had a question about this unit in particular. I know you can Mesh these together, but can you also Mesh them to a traditional AP, such as a U6 etc? I can't seem to find that info online. I don't have LAN in my downstairs hallway, so I just need a powered Mesh unit to go there.
Wow! Thanks! Yes, they mesh with other UniFi APs. And I would do what as you're saying, the "traditional" UniFi AP rather than the extender. Extender is easy but what's nice about the AP, is that if you'll ever want a better connection, you can run a Cat 6 line to that downstairs hallways to get power & data to that AP from your UX (although you'll need a PoE switch or PoE injector).
When connecting the three of them as mesh can I use an ethernet instead of wireless
Yes! The other two will just turn into wireless access points only. During setup of the additional UXs, you just specific that you're added to an existing setup.
Does it have static route and bridge mode?
Very much enjoyed your TH-cam. I plan to use this to connect to 2 8PoE Lite Switches that connect and power my CloudKey+, 3 wired and 2 WiFi Protect Cameras in addition to a about about 10 WiFi devices. Will it handel all that? My current router is an Asus AC66U that is getting a liitle old in the tooth but currently does the job. Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you! With the UX (UniFi Express), you'll exceed the 5 unifi devices limit (including the UX itself). I would recommend you get the UDR (UniFi Dream Router). I probably have it linked in the description. If you have fast internet and want to use the Threat Detection in UniFi Network, then consider going with the UCG-Ultra and a UniFi Access Point since the UCG Ultra doesnt have built-in wifi. With Threat Detection, the UDR coudl be throttled down to as low as 300 Mbps but the UCG-Ultra can still be up to 1,000 Mbps. Let me know which way you decide to go.
@@ApexOneTech Thanks for the advise. I have an order in process for the express and I am attemting to cancel and wait for the UDR (UniFi Dream Router).
Question - My goal is to use the Wifiman app with lidar/heatmapping capability for my existing, non-UniFi network (on an Asus router). But in order for me to use the wifiman app, I need to have a Unifi cloud gateway enabled device. Is it possible to use the UX router as a simple switch by disabling the wifi and just using for purposes for Wifiman?
You can give it a try. But consider that the WiFiman Wizard (the add on hardware) cost less than a UX. And itâll let you scan any network. If you go the UX route, let us know if it works.
Can you use old iPads on WiFi 6âĶ if not should you get the WiFi 5 APâs? We have some iPads that are 4 and 7 years old (maybe older)âĶ
Older devices will work with WiFi 6 APs. The older devices will not benefit directly but more and more newer devices have WiFi 6. You would get WiFi 5 APs if youâre just trying to save money or sometimes save on energy (negligible difference at a home environment though).
Salut, am aflat de curant ca cei de la Ubiquity sunt top pe retelistica.Dream router nu se afla nicaieri in stoc, asa ca m-am orientat catre Unifi Express, este indeajuns pentru un apartament de 48m patrati? nu stiu daca o sa il pot pozitiona chiar in centru.
I will have UniFI Express and the Power Strip at my Airbnb in Jamaica. Can I manage the express remotely? or would I have to VPN into it? I have Dream Machine Pro and everything at the remote location.
If youâre set them up in the same account, then you can access them from your Unifi site manager no problem. And if not in the same account, you would need to be added as a user to whatever Unifi console youâre trying to connect to remotely.
@@ApexOneTech got it thanks. Yes. Will setup with same account.
Very informative video. I am planning to buy one. I have a question as I have Asus AX5400 at home right now and all the devices working fine with it. I want to isolate my iot devices from my main devices. To achieve that i want to use ubiquiti. My question is can i add asus 5400 to ubiquity wireless?
You can possibly make the asus router work as an access point wired in to the UniFi express. Check out my video where I did this with a netgear router How to Add a Non-UniFi WiFi Router to Your UniFi Cloud Gateway Network
th-cam.com/video/3uVsDbu23Nc/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the video. My USG gateway died and I replaced it with UniFi express. My network was setup by someone that is no longer accessible. It consists of Unifi switch 8, two APC Lites and an AP AC In Wall. I have the Express setup but my concern is adopting the other devices. Is it as simple as connecting the switch to the express and adopting those devices. Thanks in advance.
If the person who setup your network did some advanced configuration, like VLANs, then it might be worth it to try to restore the backup from the USG if you have it. Otherwise, just start fresh. So yes, you can plug in the UX. Set it up as a new device. Then, you can plug in the switch and itâll prompt you to adopt to the new UX you just setup. The other unifi devices should also do that. Or theyâll say that youâll need to reset that device. Another option is just go and reset all your unifi devices (physically). Then, plug the switch to the UX, and add adopt your existing Unifi devices to the UX. That would be simple. Youâll of course, at minimum, would need to setup the same WiFi name and password on the APs you reset.
One thing to note, is that youâll be at the maximum (4) additional Unifi devices that the UX can support. And 2, youâll most likely want to disable both WiFi radios on the UX since your existing network has setup enough APs and you donât want the UX WiFi to interfere.
Thanks for quick reply. I was wondering about the 4 device limitation. Doesnât the switch count a device or does everything connected through the switch plus the switch. If the later is the case, should I upgrade to the Dream Router or Ultra. I would like to add cameras down the road. Thanks again.
can I add unifi gateway with existing 3rd party router to access unifi cloud features?
Kinda. You don't want two routers in your network. You would have to configure what each router does. Generally, if you have an ISP router, you would want to put it in bridge mode or IP passthrough. Let the unifi router do the work.
@@ApexOneTech can you connect Unifi APs and 3rd party router to web cloud controller without unifi gateway?
Can I add an ubiquiti AP on the LAN cable and use it in mesh?
If you're adding on the UX as an access point to existing UniFi controller, then it should mesh with other UniFi APs that have meshing. I'm guessing, but haven't tested, that it'll also work if the UX is the controller.
UX will be main controller and AP has to be on the first floor of the house. @@ApexOneTech
I don't know if it'll work in true mesh mode but you can definitely connect an UniFi AP to the UX as the main controller. The LAN port is not POE so you'll most likely need a POE switch or POE injector to power the AP. You can add up to 4 UniFi devices to the UX when it's the controller so that means up to 4 APs if you're not using a UniFi POE switch (because that would also count towards the 4 limit).
Hi can I set this up as a wifi controller only and keep my existing router? What is the setup to do this?
Do you mean just to set it as a Unifi controller and then add your existing router to it? I'm not sure if that's possible. It might be possible if you can disable the UniFi Express (UX) routing because I'm quite confident it won't allow you to have two routers on one network. And if so, just bad practice and sounds like a mess.
Why do you want to keep your existing router? or is it because it's also your wireless AP? If so, most of the wifi router combo units can just be set to be an access point only. So your UX can be the Unifi Controller and router, and then set your existing wifi router as just a wifi access point.
If your existing router has additional ports, it's quite inexpensive to get a small switch. And even one with POE that your router most likely does not have.
Can you use a non unifi 8 port unmanaged switch to the unifi express?
Yeah for sure. I have non-Unifi POE switch attached to this one currently. Clients on the switch show up as wired connections but of course you donât have visibility of the switch ports in Unifi.
Will the Unifi LTE Backup Pro work with this?
Yeah Unifi LTE Backup or the LTE Backup Pro should work with any Unifi gateway. Just goes into a LAN port. It's a bit different than a dual-WAN failover--which this doesn't have. As an example, the UCG Ultra does have dual WAN.
I am confused... the wifi 6 band is greyed out. Is it not built in?
Itâs greyed out for you? It is built in and mine is using WiFi 6 for clients that support it.
@@ApexOneTech The UniFi Express has no 6 GHz. Only the U6 Enterprise and U7 have 6 GHz at the moment.
@@magnuserlandsson1327 WiFi 6 and 6 Ghz shouldn't be confused. WiFi 6 is only up to 5 Ghz. It's Wifi 6E that goes to 6 Ghz.
@@ApexOneTech I see now that @Voiceguitar wrote "wifi 6 band". My brain read that as 6 GHz band since wifi 6 is not a frequency band just a friendly name for the standard.
seems like you'd need a unifi switch too...
Not in every scenario, but yes if you have wired devices. I've deployed these at Airbnb's with just this UX and the UniFi SmartPower Strip. Add a flex mini if you just need an additional port.
Put second device and switch to 5gjz 80mhz, it will boost your wifi experience ð
Thanks for the tip! Surprised itâs not on 80 MHz width by default.
@@ApexOneTech does it support 160mhz? ðĪ Thinking about this device for my small lab
It's really bsht with 1gb/s rj45 ports , unfortunately it's not enough...ð
Only good for very small networks. Very slow start-up process. But good otherwise
For sure. It starts up slow butâs just for the entire console. Youâll be connected to the internet much sooner than that. So not too bad. Shouldnât need to reboot other than for updates anyways.
Really good content, but please please please no more unboxing!! You could briefly mention what comes in a box maybe, but people who come here for your content are not the type of people who are interested in the process of unboxing a product.
Thanks for your feedback
@@ApexOneTech I liked seeing the unboxing and how it should properly connect from the start.
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