Agreed. Grew up in Michigan and visited the fort several times; I never learned the tie-in to Pontiac's war, only the lacrosse game and the French trader's complicity (alleged).
A fantastic vid, great map graphics and reenactment footage! On a minor point of clarification, the British flag used to denote British possessions (00:44) is the civilian commerce version, rather than the correct National version (all white field with a thin red cross disecting it, and the "Union Jack"filling the upper left quadrant).
@@Legozanman That may be true to some degree, but the archiologists and historians have gone to pain staking lengths to keep it as close as possible, far better than other places, like Boonesborough
My ancestor was there at that battle, Jacques Philip Farly. He was a fur trader, interpreter. He spoke French, Little English and Ojibwa. He didn’t die, he was with the French. Ojibwa didn’t touch the French. That’s why I’m here he survived.
"He didn’t die" That's amazing*. He must be very, very old by now. * Pronounced in an Australian accent. Edit: th-cam.com/video/VowQEq9ZskM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/9zdmqV2iDN8/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/T7iiOF10gz8/w-d-xo.html
While the French traded with the tribes for years before the British showed up, and treated them with respect, the British did not, lying to and betraying the Ojibwe and many other tribes----
@@thomasfoss9963 The British do not have a very good record in history, and, in more recent times, I was disgusted by how little support was given to Afghan interpreters, etc, by the US and the British when they/we withdrew.
this was very well done, great job. I love these type of historical videos. the government lies all the time. I feel for the Indians, Yes i have been told by real native Americana Indians that they preferred to be called Indians. I suppose that opinion can vary from one to another in the tribes as many things do with all people on various subjects. the characters , clothing, setting and narration was done professional. Thank you very much . do another.
As a retired historical researcher, who has worked for Native bands on the issues covered by the video, I'd like to refine some points. These are nuances, more than corrections, and do not detract from the overall excellence of the video. 1. Neolin had nothing to do with Pontiac. This is a piece of negative propaganda used at the time to denigrate Pontiac and his purpose in the eyes of Eastern Natives and settlers. Neolin preached an archaic revival of an imaginary past including disallowing all European technology and weapons. Pontaic on the other hand was a practical politician and general dealing with a current reality. Not the same thing at all. 2. Small pox as weapon: I quote from the letters between General Amherst and Colonel Bouquet. On 13 July 1763 Amherst writes "You will Do well to try to Innoculate the Indians by means of Blanketts, as well as to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Excrecable Race." Colonel Bouquet replies in a letter 16 July 1763 "I will try to inoculate the Indians by the means of blanketts that may fall in their hands, taking care however not to get the disease myself." It can be fairly concluded that the British did understand germ warfare. 3. Michel Langlade was everything the video said, and did the things depicted. But that's only scratching the surface of this man (who deserves his own movie if not a TV series.) He was 1/4 French, 1/4 Dakota Sioux, 1/4 Huron and 1/4 Objiway. He killed his first man at the age of 10 while accompanying his Ottawa grandfather on a raid. He joined the French Troupe de la Marine and by 1760 was an acting-lieutenant. He claimed to have fought in over a hundred battles and killed as many men or more. He holds the unusual distinction of being the last serving French acting-commander at Michilmackinac (because the commander abandoned his post and fled to Quebec), and the first British acting-commander at Michilimackinac because it took so long for the British to finally arrive. So technically when Edgerton while a prisoner named Langlade as acting-commander, this was the third time he discharged the position that other men had neglected. He had all the credentials to do the job of mediator. Lives were saved by him. 4. The end of Pontiac's Revolt while certainly influenced by approaching harvest, and expected British reinforcements was not decided by these factors. Pontiac had received confirmation from the nearest remaining French post at St. Louis that the French had indeed conceded the War, and would not be returning. Thhe purpose of the rebellion and it could no longer be met. Otherwise I liked this video just fine, no problem recommending it, but thought I should clear up some reader comment/questions. P.S. the post-Pontiac agreement, the Royal Proclamation of 1763 is the foundation of the Canadian constitution still today, and is the legal framework under which all land claim cases are pursued. So in a way, Pontiac's cause won the war and Amherst's cause lost.
As a brit I have to say, we love a good fight but when it comes to brute force that matches or is more so brutal than our own we tended to lose, can't blame the random troops for being there though, its that or die in England and most would've much rather been killed abroad
The ball was lobbed over the wall was an inaccuracy, also the fort was burned. Also it failed to mention that this war party was quickly destroyed shortly afterwards in an ill advised attempt to head towards the big fort on the island. The smoke from Michilimackinac was clearly visible and gave more than ample time to prepare. I have studied this for over 30 years and have yet to figure out why they would overtake the small fort first and burn it sending such a signal just to never make landfall on the island.
Yes, during the French/Indian war, which employed many close hand to hand combat skirmishes, Amherst noticed the Indians had no natural immunity to smallpox, and with his racist disdain for the Eastern tribes, gave the Indians blankets filled with smallpox scabs, which led to their numbers dwindling, and their eventual demise------ There was a movement years back to remove his name from Amherst college, but it lost momemtum-----
@@victornewman9904 The Natives were allied with the French since the Great Peace of Montreal in 1701. You really think they would have done this to their allies? Just admit it, your post is French bashing again.
NICE TO SEE THIS ON TH-cam
Thank you for this video. Educational and enjoyable.
I really appreciate all your videos. I will have to visit one day.
Excellent! I've been going to the Fort since "64" and own or have read everything about the Fort. This is the best explanation of its history!
Agreed. Grew up in Michigan and visited the fort several times; I never learned the tie-in to Pontiac's war, only the lacrosse game and the French trader's complicity (alleged).
A fantastic vid, great map graphics and reenactment footage! On a minor point of clarification, the British flag used to denote British possessions (00:44) is the civilian commerce version, rather than the correct National version (all white field with a thin red cross disecting it, and the "Union Jack"filling the upper left quadrant).
Very good video
1:06 the smirk from the actor is priceless lol
Great video. I know and worked with the British officer and the native at the end of the video!
Very good documental thanks
Great stuff keep up the great work!
Fort Michilimackinac was one of my favorite places when I was a kid.
same and it still is
Went there for a field trip when I was a kid, I believe it’s location was changed
@@Legozanman That may be true to some degree, but the archiologists and historians have gone to pain staking lengths to keep it as close as possible, far better than other places, like Boonesborough
@@comicbookguy8818 yeah i forgot to point that out but I do know it’s mostly how it was before the location change.
My ancestor was there at that battle, Jacques Philip Farly. He was a fur trader, interpreter. He spoke French, Little English and Ojibwa. He didn’t die, he was with the French. Ojibwa didn’t touch the French. That’s why I’m here he survived.
"He didn’t die"
That's amazing*. He must be very, very old by now.
* Pronounced in an Australian accent.
Edit: th-cam.com/video/VowQEq9ZskM/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/9zdmqV2iDN8/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/T7iiOF10gz8/w-d-xo.html
@@pineapplepenumbra LOL
It's good to know your heritage.
While the French traded with the tribes for years before the British showed up, and treated them with respect, the British did not, lying to and betraying the Ojibwe and many other tribes----
@@thomasfoss9963 The British do not have a very good record in history, and, in more recent times, I was disgusted by how little support was given to Afghan interpreters, etc, by the US and the British when they/we withdrew.
this was very well done, great job. I love these type of historical videos.
the government lies all the time. I feel for the Indians,
Yes i have been told by real native Americana Indians that they preferred to be called Indians.
I suppose that opinion can vary from one to another in the tribes as many things do with all people on various subjects.
the characters , clothing, setting and narration was done professional. Thank you very much . do another.
"We aren't Indians and we aren't Native Americans. We're older than both concepts. We're The People. We're The Human Beings." ~ John Trudell
What a coincidence: I was just now quoting Alexander Henry in my doctoral dissertation.
Perfect
As a retired historical researcher, who has worked for Native bands on the issues covered by the video, I'd like to refine some points. These are nuances, more than corrections, and do not detract from the overall excellence of the video.
1. Neolin had nothing to do with Pontiac. This is a piece of negative propaganda used at the time to denigrate Pontiac and his purpose in the eyes of Eastern Natives and settlers. Neolin preached an archaic revival of an imaginary past including disallowing all European technology and weapons. Pontaic on the other hand was a practical politician and general dealing with a current reality. Not the same thing at all.
2. Small pox as weapon: I quote from the letters between General Amherst and Colonel Bouquet. On 13 July 1763 Amherst writes "You will Do well to try to Innoculate the Indians by means of Blanketts, as well as to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Excrecable Race." Colonel Bouquet replies in a letter 16 July 1763 "I will try to inoculate the Indians by the means of blanketts that may fall in their hands, taking care however not to get the disease myself." It can be fairly concluded that the British did understand germ warfare.
3. Michel Langlade was everything the video said, and did the things depicted. But that's only scratching the surface of this man (who deserves his own movie if not a TV series.) He was 1/4 French, 1/4 Dakota Sioux, 1/4 Huron and 1/4 Objiway. He killed his first man at the age of 10 while accompanying his Ottawa grandfather on a raid. He joined the French Troupe de la Marine and by 1760 was an acting-lieutenant. He claimed to have fought in over a hundred battles and killed as many men or more. He holds the unusual distinction of being the last serving French acting-commander at Michilmackinac (because the commander abandoned his post and fled to Quebec), and the first British acting-commander at Michilimackinac because it took so long for the British to finally arrive. So technically when Edgerton while a prisoner named Langlade as acting-commander, this was the third time he discharged the position that other men had neglected. He had all the credentials to do the job of mediator. Lives were saved by him.
4. The end of Pontiac's Revolt while certainly influenced by approaching harvest, and expected British reinforcements was not decided by these factors. Pontiac had received confirmation from the nearest remaining French post at St. Louis that the French had indeed conceded the War, and would not be returning. Thhe purpose of the rebellion and it could no longer be met.
Otherwise I liked this video just fine, no problem recommending it, but thought I should clear up some reader comment/questions.
P.S. the post-Pontiac agreement, the Royal Proclamation of 1763 is the foundation of the Canadian constitution still today, and is the legal framework under which all land claim cases are pursued. So in a way, Pontiac's cause won the war and Amherst's cause lost.
I wonder if those old letters still be in the old treasure box in shipwreck🤔💭
In January of 2010 Detroit got it's final revenge against Pontiac.
As a brit I have to say, we love a good fight but when it comes to brute force that matches or is more so brutal than our own we tended to lose, can't blame the random troops for being there though, its that or die in England and most would've much rather been killed abroad
I thot they lobbed the ball over the wall.icud b wrong.
Makes me proud of my British heritage.
I’m my school they never really taught us about the conflicts with natives tribes here in Michigan
The ball was lobbed over the wall was an inaccuracy, also the fort was burned. Also it failed to mention that this war party was quickly destroyed shortly afterwards in an ill advised attempt to head towards the big fort on the island. The smoke from Michilimackinac was clearly visible and gave more than ample time to prepare. I have studied this for over 30 years and have yet to figure out why they would overtake the small fort first and burn it sending such a signal just to never make landfall on the island.
well maybe michillnackinac should’ve had [Hyperlink Blocked] and been a [[BIG SHOT!]]
Is it true that Jeffrey Amherst used the first documented Biological Warfare, by purposefully giving Native Americans blankets laden with Small Pox?
Yes, during the French/Indian war, which employed many close hand to hand combat skirmishes, Amherst noticed the Indians had no natural immunity to smallpox, and with his racist disdain for the Eastern tribes, gave the Indians blankets filled with smallpox scabs, which led to their numbers dwindling, and their eventual demise------ There was a movement years back to remove his name from Amherst college, but it lost momemtum-----
A good book/reference on this called Guns, Germs, and Steel written by Jared Diamond, which focuses on this subject, and other related stories----
Not the first documented incident by thousands of years. Armies throughout history used biological warfare. See Wikipedia.
No, it was a French technique.
@@victornewman9904 The Natives were allied with the French since the Great Peace of Montreal in 1701. You really think they would have done this to their allies? Just admit it, your post is French bashing again.
I thought that the British and some of the Indians allied to fight Patriots not Americans in the AmRev.
Savages.
Many of the "native americans" looked very white, to me. The maker of this video couldn't find natives to play the roles?
Amhesrt was right...