Thank you again for your videos! Not araid to wait on every league start as I am a hardcore (player not game mode :P ) casualer, thus will take my time to choose a mainafter some tests up to 40-50 levels. I do this everytime, never failed. Love melee and might give a go for 1st two builds being a Warden pew pew and a Glad blocker. However it is better to wait for PoBs, when people that can grind effectively and faster than me are ready to provide it. We're waiting for yours friend
lol what -300flat phys taken for 10% mana is crazy, there is also an annoint witch gives -110flat phys at lvl 100 // immortal flesh belt has another -50 flat phys. you could than pair that with the formless flame helmet that has -200flat fire damage and use like cloak of flame. and yes -flat comes at the end of the damage calc so ur basicly taking zero or almost zero damage from small/mid hits if u have some endurance charges/armour on top of that. honestly this sounds kinda busted even if u got hit like 2 times ur still at like -590flat, first hit beeing -660. this seems kinda busted honestly for 10% lol
@@ADINSX3 sure but the biggest part is usually armour / endurance charges or other %phys reduction and damage split like cloak of flames. im pretty sure arctic armour should be the same shit as endurance charges so its before not after ? no idea when fortify gets calculated but if u say after its prolly true, i dont play melee :3
If you compare it to the old Avatar of Slaughter, the 100% onslaught effect, 10% more chance to evade attacks, it just sucks so bad. Mana reservation and no impact outside defence.
I don't understand how 20% * 50 shock ailments = 1000% is worse than 40% * 3 ailments = 120%. Did that not work with Taming originally? All this makes me want to swap to a Gladiator bleed build. I really wanted Warden Lightning Strike or Elemental Hit of Spectrum.
Its not worse it would be broken with Warden, thats why they changed it so now its 30-40% per Ailment type so we now only get the +-120% instead of the 1000% from the 3.24 Taming we would've gotten. The Taming in 3.25 lose the 30% flat but also gains ~48% per Ailment that which is in sum a higher % increased Ele DMG than The Taming in 3.24
@@enqubas yes its true, the more dmg you have the better the scaling for %Increased is, if you do 100k dps and have 12% increased its still low but if you have 10mil dps and 12% increase thats much more dmg. So the scaling later on is much better than early , but still its not like its not going to benefit your dmg if you have an early Taming, still worth early
It was amazing for certain builds and play styles: I built a Mahaxotul LS deadeye in Affliction and stacked the “chance to chain when colliding with terrain” and stack chain count. Let me just say I can simulacrum with a stack of coin pressed the keyboard for me. The chain helps LS projectile completely covers the whole arena. On the other hand, it do feels bad that the projectile vanish in tight maps, and to constantly place your character to do double damage to boss is a bit annoying.
Based on the patch notes there isn’t much to change gearing and tree wise vs 3.24 apart from any moved nodes . The main consideration could be that a poison tincture might be appealing to utilise at times esp if you go micro distillery belt option
So has anyone looked at replica heatahiver for lightning atrike? 1% lighting as extra cold for each 2% shock on enemy? 50% as extra cold maybe??? For a 1c unique os kinda cool. If it works.
which LS version is better for investing into endgame? Fuzzy duckzy is going with champion since its very cheap for league start but Im looking for a build to invest 200+ divs and be able to complete more juiced maps
I just don't really like the tincture aspect of Warden, I used them on Affliction and I never really liked them. I just don't want another thing i have to remember to activate.
I'm not a huge "lightning strike" fan, but I do like "The Warden", any other skills that could be viable? Maybe a "top 5 skills you can use with warden" video or something. Love the content, keep it up!
Frost Blades, Molten Strike, Smite, literally any skill that has elemental conversion and is a strike skill. Not rocket science, this has been the case for many leagues.
Hi Lolcohol, thank you for all the great content and looking forward for the league start guide. One thing I would like to have is any other leveling trick we can use due to the melee buff. I did several test run base on the venom grye last league and find out it is very tough in act 3~5.
I did a test run with Venom Gyre/Whirling blades and I had 0 problems with campaign, that was on SSF. It got a bit rough at early maps, so i stopped there since it doesnt include the new buffs.
getting more than 3 types of elemental ailment wont be very easy and at 3 its practically the same unless you have a perfect roll taming the deference will be less then 10% inc. so i dont think it will change much in price. i think only perfect taming's will
no, the damage per freeze/shock/ignite did not have the elemental tag to scale with catalysts before, only the plain elemental damage and ele damage with attacks part did
@@ElSabio159 So it will be pretty tanky right? Because I want to focus on one character and do all the ubers but idk if LS is able to do that. Im a noob ;p
@@MAX-zl1cg Well, I dont know about you, but I still havent seen his PoB so such a statement seems very daring from your side :D Warden except barkskin and potentially maybe tinctures got no defensive layers built in Ascendancy, si maybe bit tankier than deadeye but I guess, not by much. with grace and dete nerf, bad geared chars will struggle that much more, as you will need much better ilvl bases to offset that and unique items still got their old bases, which is very bad, only good thing about defences for leaguestart low investment is quality ... I guess warden will have no or little armour, I dont expect him to go both grace and determination and low Hp pool
Yeah the plan is armour scaling, Fortify, molten shell, wind dancer and then marionettes with wrath and add grace if we need more defenses. I always pay a lot of attention to my defenses but we are zhp during the early campaign, but barkskin will help!
Doesnt change you might still want a big edps weapon anyway. It's not like you expect to go cheaper if you decide to use ele hit of spectrum, or Reave if you wanna stay mêlée and abuse rage.
So, I skipped necrop, I did check out your LS then and it seemed great, this patch seemed like a huge increase and now you-the-man I did path out TS/Ice Shot and i wasn't impressed, maybe someone better will take a shot at a full bore but, I NEVER play melee and I rarely play as a meta slave. Guess that's what I'm doing this league lol. Love the updates.
EVERYONE, and i mean EVERYONE is ONLY talking about LS, and EVERYONE is making a guide and build for it. Many or Most people follow guides, and when everyone is making guides for the same boring 5-6 skills every league, the meta gets stale, like Maxroll, had the same skill and guides for a year or 2 now, just updated the builds, there is NO creativity in making guides for something a bit different. And many of the top players might play something else, but never make any guides for them. Everyone talked about melee, but all we hear is LS this and LS that. You can clear everything in the game just fine with a B tier skill, and people that don't make it to T16 maps day 1 will never feel the difference between S-tier league starter and B-tier skill.
Hilarious. LS was considered trash tier last league and I was one of the very few people making a guide for it. Last league it WAS the B-tier but still excellent skill you described and I made guides for it. Now it's popular and suddenly everyone else is doing it too, and suddenly it's stale meta? The league hasn't even started lol.
@@Lolcohol LS was pretty big a few leagues ago too. But the point was that everyone doing the same thing, league after league. Maybe I just dislike LS so much that i feel like its been everywhere for so long now.
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While 10% reservation for Barkskin is nice, I want to point out that two ascendency points is also technically the “cost” of using it.
we're patiently waiting for the POB :D
@Alliee just released a Lightning Strike Warden build with POB, so if you're really bored you could check that out.
@@DavidSmith-pg1ob ty, but i prefer to wait in that case haha
@@collodax you sure you dont wana go yoink it ?
@@christo2690 i dont want to suffer hahaha
Thank you again for your videos! Not araid to wait on every league start as I am a hardcore (player not game mode :P ) casualer, thus will take my time to choose a mainafter some tests up to 40-50 levels. I do this everytime, never failed. Love melee and might give a go for 1st two builds being a Warden pew pew and a Glad blocker. However it is better to wait for PoBs, when people that can grind effectively and faster than me are ready to provide it.
We're waiting for yours friend
Do u think this will be good for farming sanctum early on in the league?
With Oath of Winter it could actually be insanely good
is there a list of new crafts being added to the crafting bench? i tried looking for them in the patch notes, but no luck maybe im blind LMAO
Warden looks very interesting!
I'm glad they made Barksin better, it was dire in Affliction. Now it actually works with a pure evasion build!
lol what -300flat phys taken for 10% mana is crazy, there is also an annoint witch gives -110flat phys at lvl 100 // immortal flesh belt has another -50 flat phys.
you could than pair that with the formless flame helmet that has -200flat fire damage and use like cloak of flame.
and yes -flat comes at the end of the damage calc so ur basicly taking zero or almost zero damage from small/mid hits if u have some endurance charges/armour on top of that.
honestly this sounds kinda busted even if u got hit like 2 times ur still at like -590flat, first hit beeing -660.
this seems kinda busted honestly for 10% lol
its not the 'end' of the calculation, its just after the phys, ele, or chaos damage reduction. stuff like suppression still comes after.
@@noiseisgold3n42 it kinda is because obviously im talking about a physical hit, do i have to remind u how spell suppression works ? thought so.
@@lolleonlolable Things like Fortify, Arctic Armour, Wind Dancer, etc, all come after flat phys reduction.
@@ADINSX3 sure but the biggest part is usually armour / endurance charges or other %phys reduction and damage split like cloak of flames. im pretty sure arctic armour should be the same shit as endurance charges so its before not after ?
no idea when fortify gets calculated but if u say after its prolly true, i dont play melee :3
If you compare it to the old Avatar of Slaughter, the 100% onslaught effect, 10% more chance to evade attacks, it just sucks so bad. Mana reservation and no impact outside defence.
I don't understand how 20% * 50 shock ailments = 1000% is worse than 40% * 3 ailments = 120%. Did that not work with Taming originally?
All this makes me want to swap to a Gladiator bleed build. I really wanted Warden Lightning Strike or Elemental Hit of Spectrum.
Its not worse it would be broken with Warden, thats why they changed it so now its 30-40% per Ailment type so we now only get the +-120% instead of the 1000% from the 3.24 Taming we would've gotten. The Taming in 3.25 lose the 30% flat but also gains ~48% per Ailment that which is in sum a higher % increased Ele DMG than The Taming in 3.24
@@PetePath Just the video talks about how it's a buff later on, but not early.
@@enqubas yes its true, the more dmg you have the better the scaling for %Increased is, if you do 100k dps and have 12% increased its still low but if you have 10mil dps and 12% increase thats much more dmg. So the scaling later on is much better than early , but still its not like its not going to benefit your dmg if you have an early Taming, still worth early
with old tamming you couldn't get 4 ailments only 3 freeze/shock/ingnite.
new one now can could get chill/freeze/ignite/shock/sap/scorch/brittle.
sooo down to try this, cant wait for the POB!!
What if you run with a guardian with three elemental auras on all the time?
dont you think vaal pact is good for this build?
Throw brittle on your boot implicit and you could get up to 240% increased damage. Crazy
I also reckon going for sap on block on a shield could be a valid option with some additional block chance which is likely to trigger on a boss too
so wat better frost blade or lightning strike , frost blade get hier buff ...
thank you for doing a 7 minute video, everyone wants to do these 30-50 minute videos and its way too much watching
New barkskin is definetely worth it on an evasion character for 10% reservation that's nothing.
Am i literally the only one that thinks LS is extremely clunky and awful to play?
I'm doing SST or Frost Blades on her, can't decide!
i feel you. i wanna play warden but the only build I've seen is LS and it's a little sad :c
You’re not, LS feels AWFUL to play. Luckily you can basically replace it with any elemental melee skill.
True, I also hated that LS got stuck everywhere
It was amazing for certain builds and play styles: I built a Mahaxotul LS deadeye in Affliction and stacked the “chance to chain when colliding with terrain” and stack chain count. Let me just say I can simulacrum with a stack of coin pressed the keyboard for me. The chain helps LS projectile completely covers the whole arena.
On the other hand, it do feels bad that the projectile vanish in tight maps, and to constantly place your character to do double damage to boss is a bit annoying.
League starter BV PF will be updated?
If I get time. I'll try my best but I'm already overworked 🥲
Based on the patch notes there isn’t much to change gearing and tree wise vs 3.24 apart from any moved nodes . The main consideration could be that a poison tincture might be appealing to utilise at times esp if you go micro distillery belt option
They can buff the taming however they want, Lolcohol is gonna stay wild!
Pretty sure playing warden as well. Just different skill and build 😊
barkskin at 10% reservation is pretty huge
So has anyone looked at replica heatahiver for lightning atrike? 1% lighting as extra cold for each 2% shock on enemy? 50% as extra cold maybe??? For a 1c unique os kinda cool. If it works.
which LS version is better for investing into endgame? Fuzzy duckzy is going with champion since its very cheap for league start but Im looking for a build to invest 200+ divs and be able to complete more juiced maps
??? Ducky’s literally says his build is just for extremely low investment. Warden is obviously for high investment.
@@ReinLie Yeah but he also said hes gonna post the endgame version, which might scale well.
Yeah the strength of the Warden is that the scaling potential is insane. The amount of more multipliers on it is actually ridiculous
In case you missed it, here's a video discussing the new Warden Ascendancy: th-cam.com/video/7hgGGn63OGc/w-d-xo.html
when can we expect the lighting strike warden pob?
Wednesday for the guide!
İ'm wondering this build defense. Will this enough Tanky?
It'll be good! Not tanky like a juggernaut but good for softcore
I just don't really like the tincture aspect of Warden, I used them on Affliction and I never really liked them. I just don't want another thing i have to remember to activate.
Uh oh you're going to hate the tincture video I'm about to put out 😂
I'm not a huge "lightning strike" fan, but I do like "The Warden", any other skills that could be viable? Maybe a "top 5 skills you can use with warden" video or something. Love the content, keep it up!
Frost Blades, Molten Strike, Smite, literally any skill that has elemental conversion and is a strike skill. Not rocket science, this has been the case for many leagues.
Just go Reave of Refraction and use a physical sword (probably paradoxica late game), it has been insanely buffed.
Great idea. I doubt I'll have time to do that but it's pretty flexible like Ryan said!
Perfect! Warden or Champion for me.
Hi Lolcohol, thank you for all the great content and looking forward for the league start guide.
One thing I would like to have is any other leveling trick we can use due to the melee buff. I did several test run base on the venom grye last league and find out it is very tough in act 3~5.
I did a test run with Venom Gyre/Whirling blades and I had 0 problems with campaign, that was on SSF. It got a bit rough at early maps, so i stopped there since it doesnt include the new buffs.
Yes my pob has an excellent leveling setup with VG that feels incredible
Only 9 mill DPS at the top end?
Lol no that's a very middle budget version. It goes way high
getting more than 3 types of elemental ailment wont be very easy and at 3 its practically the same unless you have a perfect roll taming the deference will be less then 10% inc. so i dont think it will change much in price. i think only perfect taming's will
you could catalise it previously as well right? so it is 24*3 not 20*3
no, the damage per freeze/shock/ignite did not have the elemental tag to scale with catalysts before, only the plain elemental damage and ele damage with attacks part did
@@Failcaeusis it even confirmed to have it now, or just assumed I suppose?
i don't think tinctures are all that great because it's not like you can have rage AND elemental damage tinctures. you can only pick one.
You can with Warden :3 And also, Rage on hit might be an explicit modifier on a tincture, not an implicit
I'm going to jam power siphon trickster although if I enjoyed the LS playstyle better I would play it but wanders are just too fun
I wanted to play LS for like 3leagues now and never did that, now im thinking about warden/champion/slayer which one will be the best in your opinion?
Slayer is tempting with a lot of maximum endurance and frenzy charges.
@@ElSabio159 So it will be pretty tanky right? Because I want to focus on one character and do all the ubers but idk if LS is able to do that. Im a noob ;p
Damn, I am too afraid about defensive capabilities of Warden unfortunately to league start it. But the damage looks absolutely busted
What defense aspect are you afraid exactly? he will be an absolute beast defensively.
@@MAX-zl1cg Well, I dont know about you, but I still havent seen his PoB so such a statement seems very daring from your side :D Warden except barkskin and potentially maybe tinctures got no defensive layers built in Ascendancy, si maybe bit tankier than deadeye but I guess, not by much. with grace and dete nerf, bad geared chars will struggle that much more, as you will need much better ilvl bases to offset that and unique items still got their old bases, which is very bad, only good thing about defences for leaguestart low investment is quality ... I guess warden will have no or little armour, I dont expect him to go both grace and determination and low Hp pool
With wardens ascendency being so big on damage, it makes room to go more defensive on gear, tree and auras. So it shouldn't be a problem tbh
Yeah the plan is armour scaling, Fortify, molten shell, wind dancer and then marionettes with wrath and add grace if we need more defenses. I always pay a lot of attention to my defenses but we are zhp during the early campaign, but barkskin will help!
Just go Slayer LS.
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70% of the server starting from LS. Good thing the other items are cheap
Doesnt change you might still want a big edps weapon anyway. It's not like you expect to go cheaper if you decide to use ele hit of spectrum, or Reave if you wanna stay mêlée and abuse rage.
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Very interesting! Thx for vid!
So, I skipped necrop, I did check out your LS then and it seemed great, this patch seemed like a huge increase and now you-the-man
I did path out TS/Ice Shot and i wasn't impressed, maybe someone better will take a shot at a full bore but, I NEVER play melee and I rarely play as a meta slave. Guess that's what I'm doing this league lol.
Love the updates.
yet another bait video lets goooo
EVERYONE, and i mean EVERYONE is ONLY talking about LS, and EVERYONE is making a guide and build for it.
Many or Most people follow guides, and when everyone is making guides for the same boring 5-6 skills every league, the meta gets stale, like Maxroll, had the same skill and guides for a year or 2 now, just updated the builds, there is NO creativity in making guides for something a bit different. And many of the top players might play something else, but never make any guides for them.
Everyone talked about melee, but all we hear is LS this and LS that.
You can clear everything in the game just fine with a B tier skill, and people that don't make it to T16 maps day 1 will never feel the difference between S-tier league starter and B-tier skill.
Hilarious. LS was considered trash tier last league and I was one of the very few people making a guide for it. Last league it WAS the B-tier but still excellent skill you described and I made guides for it.
Now it's popular and suddenly everyone else is doing it too, and suddenly it's stale meta? The league hasn't even started lol.
@@Lolcohol LS was pretty big a few leagues ago too. But the point was that everyone doing the same thing, league after league. Maybe I just dislike LS so much that i feel like its been everywhere for so long now.
looks pretty copy pasted from fubgun XD
Pls be trolling reee
Fubgun watching 3,24 lolcohol strike raider leaguestart 😂
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