The aggressiveness part is something I noticed when abilities and weapons got a lot more variety. People are capable of just baiting you into eating crazy amounts of damage.
@@batslc I find as someone who got the game like a month ago and have been learning since, someone who just charges at me and pretty much spams mantras makes me so confused and dazzled I die instantly
@@batslc It's something that annoys me when I'm the aggressor as well. Although I notice and counter it fast. When someone else plays ultra aggressively to the point it counters me by speed, I switch to passive and I time my attacks for them to run into it. I've landed eclipse kicks, guardbreaks, criticals, ice fissures, and other high damage abilities.
@@puffythecat4601 They're not really spamming. They're combination attacks designed to confuse your defenses. It works even on experienced and good players, so as a new player you don't stand much of a chance against it.
another thing to get good at is learning common vent timings/parry timings in combos to extend combos massively, if you can bait vents its a free combo starter or extender and knowing when someone is going to have their parry off cooldown and probably try and parry the next thing coming at them you can preemptively mixup
A month into the release of Deepwoken I got Legion Cestus and their fist style. I had good practice with parrying and just delayed all my attacks and won every fight easily.
As a VERY aggressive player, and have been since launch week, I can safely say, a friend of mine who started in verse 2 can beat me because of the fact rushing a mf leaves you open to so many things, my best example is the heroblade of thunder crit, if you're rushing in with an air dash m1 stack you're very weak to that crit, and as a heavy main the mantra shit you mentioned is basically needed to win against good players, because anit nobody falling for a heavy m1 feint due to how slow the shit is.
@@nickyup6814 Heavy is so bad in chime rn, I had to make a weapon master build just so I can switch to a medium or light wep for chime although, I did have to sacrifice MUCH NEEDED hp.
I see. I will never get better at this game. I HATE being forced to play passive constantly. I’m not someone who just blindly rushes either, but if I have to back away from you CONSTANTLY. I’m gonna get agitated. Other reason I don’t play a lot of fighting games cause I get agitated way too easily lmao
@@poximia no, you can definitely still use smt like radiant kick after a crit. beware of light weapons tho, since their swing is sometimes faster than ur roll catch
Cringe gatekeeping elitist logic in a lego game: "I was surprised that unknown people that have probably never hit top 250 can actually be good at the game how can this be!!!" 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
i made this video specifically going over information that can make you better at the game, how does that make me a gatekeeper? i only said that because i was amazed at the growth of the game, this is the case for most video games, i was just stating it to show that pure parry skill won't win you any games unlike before.
bro what are u rambling about, i never said that its not possible for someone unknown to me can't be good, I just said it's crazy to see how players that aren't known or top 250 can be that good, as in unknown to everyone and not just me, I think you might have just misinterpreted what I said and decided to leave a random comment hating for no reason @@gavin2870 💀💀
he didn't say to only play passive, he said to play more passive instead of being mindlessly aggressive. Actually read your opponents attacks and catch them on a mistake/predict their habits
@@gooberbunchofrandomnumbers bro is trying so hard to win.. he is just standing there, menancingly. on a real note that's just really boring when someone does not attack like at all and it just turns fights into a waiting game of who attacks first
@@govnolepbut it's the most effective. When your opponent plays passive and you just mindlessly rush, soon he's gonna memorize your patterns and catch you off guard/punish you
exactly hes saying to not spam m1 and what not when one of the current best eu players does it you cant just say exactly what people should do@@yourmab1513
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The aggressiveness part is something I noticed when abilities and weapons got a lot more variety. People are capable of just baiting you into eating crazy amounts of damage.
Yeah it's something that annoys me a lot because my playstyle is mostly aggressive
@@batslc I find as someone who got the game like a month ago and have been learning since, someone who just charges at me and pretty much spams mantras makes me so confused and dazzled I die instantly
@@batslc It's something that annoys me when I'm the aggressor as well. Although I notice and counter it fast. When someone else plays ultra aggressively to the point it counters me by speed, I switch to passive and I time my attacks for them to run into it. I've landed eclipse kicks, guardbreaks, criticals, ice fissures, and other high damage abilities.
@@puffythecat4601 They're not really spamming. They're combination attacks designed to confuse your defenses. It works even on experienced and good players, so as a new player you don't stand much of a chance against it.
@@Hivatelyeah they are spamming watch any pyrekeeper playing
depending on your build, there will be fights that playing passive better, but there will be other fights where it will be better to play aggresive
thank you for making me a godseeker, i went from 1200 eol to 800
Its cause elo reset trust
another thing to get good at is learning common vent timings/parry timings in combos to extend combos massively, if you can bait vents its a free combo starter or extender and knowing when someone is going to have their parry off cooldown and probably try and parry the next thing coming at them you can preemptively mixup
clicked off as soon as i saw the shadow fist gameplay
He-he-he-hewll nah
Hewll nah
The tips are good tho
I got tired of losing to the fist players and didn't wanna be lft like Nogo, tho now I've hopped off fist!
LMFAOO bro 😭
A month into the release of Deepwoken I got Legion Cestus and their fist style. I had good practice with parrying and just delayed all my attacks and won every fight easily.
the thing is im already used to being too aggresive in most of the games i played
i dont know how to play passively :sob:
i feel that
As a VERY aggressive player, and have been since launch week, I can safely say, a friend of mine who started in verse 2 can beat me because of the fact rushing a mf leaves you open to so many things, my best example is the heroblade of thunder crit, if you're rushing in with an air dash m1 stack you're very weak to that crit, and as a heavy main the mantra shit you mentioned is basically needed to win against good players, because anit nobody falling for a heavy m1 feint due to how slow the shit is.
BUFF heavy mains.. There are none in high chime
@@nickyup6814 Heavy is so bad in chime rn, I had to make a weapon master build just so I can switch to a medium or light wep for chime
although, I did have to sacrifice MUCH NEEDED hp.
i cant lie i just spam m1 and use mantras together idrk how to mix up or properly use my mantras
appreciate the honesty
Same dw King!!
I know the reason for me losing fights is cuz I'm aggressive but my playstyle is aggressive playing passive is boring to me
thats completely fair and i can relate.
I learned some things! Also I would like to say Mantra Feinting and Perfect Casting is op
as a hit n runner i feel good starting this game (just bought it like 3 days ago)
W hope u get to 3k 🔥🔥
ty!
I see. I will never get better at this game. I HATE being forced to play passive constantly. I’m not someone who just blindly rushes either, but if I have to back away from you CONSTANTLY. I’m gonna get agitated. Other reason I don’t play a lot of fighting games cause I get agitated way too easily lmao
lowkey i recommend hopping on gale or something w a lot of gap closers, thats how i dealt w s holders. gale lunge is too good
@@batslc I’ll try it but that’s like the one attunment im always bored on lmao, but I’ll try it again
why yall hating on this dude bruh
Biggest deepwoken pvp mistake; playing dw pvp 😮
So true
Pve got no content :(
the second clip was painful to watch
we got the same birthday gang
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Happy late birthday!
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Nah verse 1 people parried more maybe cuz people didnt mix up or cuz im not comp at all but thats just what i was feeling
Yeah, what he said was just completely wrong, people are just mantra spamming now lmao deepwoken requires way less skill now
@@ibrune8371huh? Ppl improved now dude, you can easily notice how better at parrying the average player got since verse 1
also the parry window was bigger and dagger was literally parriable by spamming f bc the parry debounce was lower
That's true as well, along w the fact combat was more m1 oriented
Is there a trick to punish someone when they dodge after i crit?
Not sure
use a roll catcher
But wouldn't there be endlag roll catchers only work for feints right and i would need a quick roll catcher.
@@poximia no, you can definitely still use smt like radiant kick after a crit. beware of light weapons tho, since their swing is sometimes faster than ur roll catch
yeah but when i do crit they dont roll away normally they roll cancel REALLY close to me what do i do than? Can i still punish that?
gls
man my birthday is the 4th march its close
Happy early birthday!!
Yo bro nice video but can you tell me how to be more aggressive with heavies? I keep being forced to play passive.
He said you should play passive
uppercut and mantra feint a lot
also the missing m1s strategy is incredibly strong on heavy
@@attack_rat9697 thx man you a real one
Uppercut spam
i use heavy how I gonna miss an m1 and not get punished
i said on screen that it's only good on fast weapons
im one of the first views and i dont know if i agree with your ideas
how did you watch the whole video in 58 seconds :moyai:
Using emojis with the “:_:” outside of discord? Yeah ur losing a sub for this one buddy
@@bruhmoment7267:rofl:
yall are being little snowflake calm down
CHILL @@bruhmoment7267 😭
Great video, learned some nice stuff from it, everyone in the comments being little bitchy weirdos for no reason don't listen to them.
Thanks, appreciate that a lot bro!!!
Passive solos fr!
Cringe gatekeeping elitist logic in a lego game: "I was surprised that unknown people that have probably never hit top 250 can actually be good at the game how can this be!!!" 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
i made this video specifically going over information that can make you better at the game, how does that make me a gatekeeper? i only said that because i was amazed at the growth of the game, this is the case for most video games, i was just stating it to show that pure parry skill won't win you any games unlike before.
@@batslc because the entire idea that someone unknown to you can't be good is narcissistic and cringe
bro what are u rambling about, i never said that its not possible for someone unknown to me can't be good, I just said it's crazy to see how players that aren't known or top 250 can be that good, as in unknown to everyone and not just me, I think you might have just misinterpreted what I said and decided to leave a random comment hating for no reason @@gavin2870 💀💀
playing passive is lame though
he didn't say to only play passive, he said to play more passive instead of being mindlessly aggressive. Actually read your opponents attacks and catch them on a mistake/predict their habits
Me when my opponent wants to win 😡😡
@@gooberbunchofrandomnumbers bro is trying so hard to win.. he is just standing there, menancingly. on a real note that's just really boring when someone does not attack like at all and it just turns fights into a waiting game of who attacks first
@@govnolepbut it's the most effective. When your opponent plays passive and you just mindlessly rush, soon he's gonna memorize your patterns and catch you off guard/punish you
I agree! But no helping the fact that playing passive makes you win more
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These be some dogwater tips bruh 😭
no disrespect but you have no say in how people should play 😭
then dont watch pvp guides and learn how to play with your playstyle?
@@yourmab1513The tips is good but he can't tell people how to play since there's different playstyles
exactly hes saying to not spam m1 and what not when one of the current best eu players does it you cant just say exactly what people should do@@yourmab1513
triple digit elo talking wild