For me, taxi is almost always a last option, or one that doesn't even occur to me as a possibility. But then, I'm able-bodied, enjoy trains, and am usually travelling alone. That doesn't apply to everyone.
@@qwertyTRiG yeah thats why they closing roads and making peoples life more miserable. They encouraging people to use public transport like people are 1 year old
Sometimes, especially in a foreign country, after a flight, you just don't want to think. Even places with good public transport, like Singapore (which i've been to and from Changi via numerous times), after a 12 hour flight, i'm gonna pay the extra for a taxi to get to the hotel directly. That bed is calling! Deliveroo is definitely for hangovers! I have absolutely been so incapacitated that i'm not making that trip to McDonald's.
6:23 "So, for example, when I used to come and visit Central London on my days off" - It's nice to hear a Londoner or somebody who works in London basically say that they like to visit or enjoy the city even though it's their workplace.
Don’t forget that there are those like me who don’t live in London and only come to London once in every blue moon and we’re not familiar with all the names of the places you mention and haven’t a clue where everything is or how to work out how to get to places let alone check out all the other transport options - we just need someone to take us where we need to go, confident that we are in safe hands.
I think the biggest factor to getting a taxi over train is not having to think about navigation. I don't always need the stress of thinking what time, platform, changes I need and also having to make sure I get off in the right place. In the taxi this is all done by the driver.
Totally agree, door to door, and the knowledge of the driver getting you to your location. No worries about what stop do I need what direction do I need to go when I get off what platform etc. and you’ve got the privacy of just you and the driver. And the option to change your mind on the destination or stop along the way.
It's not exactly hard getting a train. You can even get to the train station, look at the departures board and know which platform you need to go to. Not rocket science!
Love it. What's so unique about London is that there are so many people, that you almost have endless opportunity of situational events that will always work in favour of transport. Far different to a small town or city. Many people forget this. And London and it's scale will always benefit. Seeing more people study the knowledge which is fantastic
Correct me if I'm wrong but a lot of taxi journeys are business related. The taxi user isn't bothered about the cost - they aren't paying the company is (also tax deductable as a business expense). Why sit on a train when you have your own space and privacy and a pleasant view of London when you use a cab.
You made the point, but it's definitely cost effective to take a cab when I have my family with me. Plus, I don't have to worry there won't be anywhere to stow my luggage, and that really is a big deal versus the train. You basically say this, but one of the best things about London is the number of options to get where you're going. Also, something more recent after knee surgery, cabs are much more accessible than many tube stations with my cane and punishingly slow gait :)
TFL is currently installing cables in the tunnels to allow people full phone access on the whole of the tube network, and it should be rolled out fully in the next 2 to 3 years. I think there is/was a test area in the Canary Wharf are of the Jubilee line.
Trains and taxi's are not and should never be in direct competition with each other. It's comparing Apples and Oranges... Public vs Private... Scheduled vs On Demand... The best places use the strengths of each other to make both better... I.e. all train stations should have designated Taxi stands by law... But that's just me!
i enjoy your channel and how you explain everything...having travelled abit to london afew years back it the places you mention or pass by rekindle pleasant memories... whereas taxi hailing apps have come up , i still did enjoy the spacious london cab and didn't mind spending abit more (sometimes even lower) ....keep it up!
I agree with most of your reasons for taking a taxi from Heathrow. One of the main reasons I like to take a taxi is that because I don't get to London very often, so you can see the city as you are riding in the taxi. When you are taking the Tube, it is all underground and you don't see anything of the city. I consider it part of my sightseeing as I go into London. It helps to get me in acclimatized quicker to London, especially having just flown in from Canada.
Plenty of people would still hate taking a train… And let’s not forget the dreaded “signaling problems” that I experienced while trying to take the Heathrow Express on Sunday night
I agree with this Tom. Why battle on the Tube from Euston Square to Praed St, Paddington, when you can jump in a Black cab, and get dropped at the door. Not having to battle on the tube with luggage makes the taxi, the obvious choice !
Hi Tom, I’m also a cab driver and live in London but never use Heathrow. However, whenever I travel abroad, the travelling day is long and tedious. I jump in a Taxi every time. Wouldn’t even consider a bus or train. It’s the last leg of a long journey on a long day. Taxi every time.
Personally I have never taken public transit to an airport, always a taxi, Uber or self drive and valet, it’s just so much wiser with suitcases, and personally I would just much rather be relaxed when arriving for my flight, not having just ran to catch a train in time etc. That being said nearly every time I do go into London I take the train. It just different transport methods are better for different journeys, that’s why it’s important to have a wide range of options available in the city
Well it’s up and running. Is it having a massive impact in folks taking cabs from the ranks out west? Not really. For January it’s moving quite well, but that has to be balanced with less taxis than say 3 yrs ago. When HeX launched in the 90s, that did have a big impact.
this video is bang on tom which is why when im in london in july its going to be 90% private can as you say door too door can you really put a price on that also as you stated there is 4 of us so the heathrow express is more than a cab too paddington 👍
When it wasn't raining Ebury Street via Sloane Square to Paddington I would walk in 45 minutes. Anyhow Tom, four cab journey's this month and still not hailed you.
This comes down to one thing in the main, BAGS!! Most people aren’t fit enough and/or bothered enough to lug suitcases on and off escalators and trains. Might have some effect on those who take just carry on, but I see this is as fairly negligible.
Although I am pleased that Crossrail has opened (partially) I probably wont use it because coming from Southampton its pretty useless to me. The only way I can think of any use of it is to go to Reading and change there, which is way out of my way. When I go into London I will use the Tube/ Buses or walk, as I do not tend to go to areas where there is not transport near by. Never used a black cab yet, but I would trust one over an UBER any day of the week.
I'm quite surpised that journey cost the passenger so much, i did the same journey on Tuesday with Data cars a south east london based taxi service and the journey was at peak time to canada water and cost me £55.00
Through train service might not be quite as good as you are expecting - I have seen that just two trains an hour direct to terminal five, otherwise it will be necessary to change onto another service at terminals 2/3. Terminal four gets a better bet with, after four trains an hour.
taxis have their place if i want to get from Waterloo to Euston quick to get the sleeper its a taxi, some journeys lend themselves to taxis. i suppose the downside to a taxi is if the driver doesn't agree with something you have said and you get the silent treatment for the rest of the journey and it feels uncomfortable.
very similar to flying v train... I'm in Dundee and to fly to London would take me an hour, train 6 hours ish... but! need to get to airport.. wait at airport... get from airport to London... hasle.hassle.. train is more expensive but just easier.
As someone who hates packed trains and people yeah if I had the cash I am choosing the taxi (but to be fair I would rather ride my motorcycle if I can)
The biggest saving on time is Gatwick to Heathrow, Now board TL train Gatwick to Farringdon 40 minutes ish then 40 say to Heathrow Off Peak travel card £31.10on TL and Kids go for £2 and super Off Peak TC £14.10 so after 10:30am, All step free access taxi drive time 45 minutes on a good day Taxi price aroudn £100 give of take a bit so, Group save tickets means anyone in a group of 3 or more gat get a third off, I can see this hitting that route really hard.
Crossrail will heavily reduce the amount of trade that the private hire industry can do this is because they are not allowed in the bus lanes. So UBER could lose some money. The black cabs will still get the same money.
With trains and buses to Heathrow or Gatwick (actually all the airports) you gave to factor in the long walk from Heathrow Central to the terminal. The cabs drop right outside the terminal so better if you have luggage.
Wish I had chosen cab over underground when I last visited because the GF got stressed and does not like the noise of the underground and struggled with cases on the first and last day of our trip
I’ve been thinking about the effect the line will have. And I came to a conclusion to which I could be wrong, is that the line it runs on is shared by current trains operating, which could cause more delays that already occur. Overcrowded line if you like.
Got a Black Cab from Cavendish Square to Paddington then Heathrow Express last week. Cost £35 each and due to delays took an hour and a half. Will think twice next time. No brainer if you’re not by yourself.
@@chrisstjohn9403 Yeah the Taxi was actually about £12 + £50 for the HEX was about £65 in total for 2 people. Taxi would have been quicker and probably not much more expensive.
Oh and by the way Paddington Station is a mess. Signage directs HEX passengers from the rank out towards Tanner Lane then Praed Street. I’m pretty sure you can still access by going the other way.
@@JAMZ6 Great but not all black cab drivers are like you. Like any industry black cab drivers are a mixed bunch. But a tip is part of the cost and the likely tip (lets agree on 10%) to LHR is as much as the Underground fare. Leaving out tips when making price comparisons to Public Transport isn’t very fair as most people pay and most taxi drivers expect a tip.
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For me, taxi is almost always a last option, or one that doesn't even occur to me as a possibility. But then, I'm able-bodied, enjoy trains, and am usually travelling alone. That doesn't apply to everyone.
I used to think the same till owing a car, now i cant even think about public transport
@@uk6523 If private cars are more useful than public transport, that means your city planners aren't doing their jobs right.
@@qwertyTRiG yeah thats why they closing roads and making peoples life more miserable. They encouraging people to use public transport like people are 1 year old
There is nothing more comfortable than driving home after 8 9 10 hours shift. Again i used to say same thing like you saying non
@@uk6523 Fall asleep on the bus! Can't do that in a car. That said, I now work from home, and used to walk about five minutes.
Also there is the "novelty factor" for us tourists.
If I come to London I'll take a Black Cab just to be in such an iconic vehicle.
Do you ever ask passengers why they choose a cab out of curiosity? Not sure if that is appropriate conversation or not
Sometimes, especially in a foreign country, after a flight, you just don't want to think. Even places with good public transport, like Singapore (which i've been to and from Changi via numerous times), after a 12 hour flight, i'm gonna pay the extra for a taxi to get to the hotel directly. That bed is calling!
Deliveroo is definitely for hangovers! I have absolutely been so incapacitated that i'm not making that trip to McDonald's.
One thing you haven't mentioned here is that it will reduce traffic overall, which will help Taxis provide a quicker and less irritating service!
6:23 "So, for example, when I used to come and visit Central London on my days off" - It's nice to hear a Londoner or somebody who works in London basically say that they like to visit or enjoy the city even though it's their workplace.
I do it a lot, proper bus man’s holiday!
Don’t forget that there are those like me who don’t live in London and only come to London once in every blue moon and we’re not familiar with all the names of the places you mention and haven’t a clue where everything is or how to work out how to get to places let alone check out all the other transport options - we just need someone to take us where we need to go, confident that we are in safe hands.
I think the biggest factor to getting a taxi over train is not having to think about navigation. I don't always need the stress of thinking what time, platform, changes I need and also having to make sure I get off in the right place. In the taxi this is all done by the driver.
Totally agree, door to door, and the knowledge of the driver getting you to your location. No worries about what stop do I need what direction do I need to go when I get off what platform etc. and you’ve got the privacy of just you and the driver. And the option to change your mind on the destination or stop along the way.
It's not exactly hard getting a train. You can even get to the train station, look at the departures board and know which platform you need to go to. Not rocket science!
Thanks Tom! You hit the nail on the head mate “Door to Door!” That’s what you pay for!
Love it. What's so unique about London is that there are so many people, that you almost have endless opportunity of situational events that will always work in favour of transport. Far different to a small town or city. Many people forget this. And London and it's scale will always benefit.
Seeing more people study the knowledge which is fantastic
I'm so with you on this. I'm all for an easy hassle free life. Some times price isn't the issue, convenience is king!
got to remember that it is quite a hike from arrivals or check ins to/from the heathrow express. Not easy with luggage even on a trolley.
Correct me if I'm wrong but a lot of taxi journeys are business related. The taxi user isn't bothered about the cost - they aren't paying the company is (also tax deductable as a business expense). Why sit on a train when you have your own space and privacy and a pleasant view of London when you use a cab.
You made the point, but it's definitely cost effective to take a cab when I have my family with me. Plus, I don't have to worry there won't be anywhere to stow my luggage, and that really is a big deal versus the train. You basically say this, but one of the best things about London is the number of options to get where you're going. Also, something more recent after knee surgery, cabs are much more accessible than many tube stations with my cane and punishingly slow gait :)
TFL is currently installing cables in the tunnels to allow people full phone access on the whole of the tube network, and it should be rolled out fully in the next 2 to 3 years. I think there is/was a test area in the Canary Wharf are of the Jubilee line.
£1.65 on the bus from East Croydon to Heathrow. 91 minute journey.
blimey
More like 2 Hours atm due to Road Works in Hampton.
Hello my fellow X26 fan !!
The longest bus route in London
Trains and taxi's are not and should never be in direct competition with each other. It's comparing Apples and Oranges... Public vs Private... Scheduled vs On Demand... The best places use the strengths of each other to make both better... I.e. all train stations should have designated Taxi stands by law... But that's just me!
if im going Heathrow im getting a cab, it may be more money but saves dragging a suitcase on and off trains
Same
Yeah because nothing like getting stuck in traffic on M25 and missing your flight...
A Taxi is often a free sight seeing tour :)
And so is a bus 👍
i enjoy your channel and how you explain everything...having travelled abit to london afew years back it the places you mention or pass by rekindle pleasant memories...
whereas taxi hailing apps have come up , i still did enjoy the spacious london cab and didn't mind spending abit more (sometimes even lower) ....keep it up!
I agree with most of your reasons for taking a taxi from Heathrow. One of the main reasons I like to take a taxi is that because I don't get to London very often, so you can see the city as you are riding in the taxi. When you are taking the Tube, it is all underground and you don't see anything of the city. I consider it part of my sightseeing as I go into London. It helps to get me in acclimatized quicker to London, especially having just flown in from Canada.
After a 25h flight from New Zealand I will always opt for a black cab. No way am i getting on public transport after that!
Plenty of people would still hate taking a train… And let’s not forget the dreaded “signaling problems” that I experienced while trying to take the Heathrow Express on Sunday night
I agree with this Tom. Why battle on the Tube from Euston Square to Praed St, Paddington, when you can jump in a Black cab, and get dropped at the door. Not having to battle on the tube with luggage makes the taxi, the obvious choice !
Comfortable as well u are going to get a seat in cab none of at smell u get with the underground and u get a better view of from a cab window as well
Hi Tom, I’m also a cab driver and live in London but never use Heathrow. However, whenever I travel abroad, the travelling day is long and tedious. I jump in a Taxi every time. Wouldn’t even consider a bus or train. It’s the last leg of a long journey on a long day. Taxi every time.
Great video Tom 👍🏻 really well thought out
Personally I have never taken public transit to an airport, always a taxi, Uber or self drive and valet, it’s just so much wiser with suitcases, and personally I would just much rather be relaxed when arriving for my flight, not having just ran to catch a train in time etc. That being said nearly every time I do go into London I take the train. It just different transport methods are better for different journeys, that’s why it’s important to have a wide range of options available in the city
I have normally used buses coaches or trains to and from airports. I have done taxis occasionally, but not in London.
Well it’s up and running. Is it having a massive impact in folks taking cabs from the ranks out west? Not really. For January it’s moving quite well, but that has to be balanced with less taxis than say 3 yrs ago. When HeX launched in the 90s, that did have a big impact.
Heathrow Express - £25 - 20 Minutes
Elizabeth Line - £11.50 / £10.50 - 35 Minutes
Tube - £5.50 / £3.50 - 45 Minutes / Hour
An hour on a train with no toilets isn't the best option for many people with a variety of disabilities.
@@qwertyTRiG Neither is an hour in a cab. Probably the only thing that makes a cab and Crossrail equals.
Great video Tom once again, love your way of looking at this
Yeah...I don't think k you're gonna convert Geoff on this one
this video is bang on tom which is why when im in london in july its going to be 90% private can as you say door too door can you really put a price on that also as you stated there is 4 of us so the heathrow express is more than a cab too paddington 👍
Not to mention when it's my company paying idc how much it costs sitting in a taxi is always the most convenient 😂
Door to Door service or carry all the luggage and still carry around London till your home.
When it wasn't raining Ebury Street via Sloane Square to Paddington I would walk in 45 minutes.
Anyhow Tom, four cab journey's this month and still not hailed you.
The amount of work and calls I can do in a taxi more than pays for the fare.
I agree one new mode of transport being introduced does not mean the decline of others *cough* bus travel
This comes down to one thing in the main, BAGS!! Most people aren’t fit enough and/or bothered enough to lug suitcases on and off escalators and trains. Might have some effect on those who take just carry on, but I see this is as fairly negligible.
Talking of celebrity you had any in your Cab Tom ? Spill the beans 😁
Another interesting video Tom keep up the good work 😄
Family of four , with two kids and four suitcases easiest option is taxi
Not changing two tube lines
Although I am pleased that Crossrail has opened (partially) I probably wont use it because coming from Southampton its pretty useless to me. The only way I can think of any use of it is to go to Reading and change there, which is way out of my way. When I go into London I will use the Tube/ Buses or walk, as I do not tend to go to areas where there is not transport near by. Never used a black cab yet, but I would trust one over an UBER any day of the week.
Great video sometimes it’s not about the money taxi can be very convenient.
I'm quite surpised that journey cost the passenger so much, i did the same journey on Tuesday with Data cars a south east london based taxi service and the journey was at peak time to canada water and cost me £55.00
Nice one Tom 👍
I will always take a taxi to the airport. I usually Take some luggage with me so
Door to door service for me the extra cost is worth it.
Through train service might not be quite as good as you are expecting - I have seen that just two trains an hour direct to terminal five, otherwise it will be necessary to change onto another service at terminals 2/3. Terminal four gets a better bet with, after four trains an hour.
taxis have their place if i want to get from Waterloo to Euston quick to get the sleeper its a taxi, some journeys lend themselves to taxis. i suppose the downside to a taxi is if the driver doesn't agree with something you have said and you get the silent treatment for the rest of the journey and it feels uncomfortable.
Thameslinks been around for ages and you guys are still going strong. Then again you don’t go south of the river do you? (Sorry couldn’t resist) 😂
very similar to flying v train... I'm in Dundee and to fly to London would take me an hour, train 6 hours ish... but! need to get to airport.. wait at airport... get from airport to London... hasle.hassle.. train is more expensive but just easier.
Any thoughts on cycling Mikeys gandalf corner and some of the taxi drivers on show in the videos?
Or being caught in the tube labyrinth of Kings Cross under time pressure
As someone who hates packed trains and people yeah if I had the cash I am choosing the taxi (but to be fair I would rather ride my motorcycle if I can)
Maybe you and someone could do a Top Gear esq race across London... Cab v CrossLizPurp train?!
It just takes 13 minutes with the circle line from Sloane square to Paddington...
The biggest saving on time is Gatwick to Heathrow, Now board TL train Gatwick to Farringdon 40 minutes ish then 40 say to Heathrow Off Peak travel card £31.10on TL and Kids go for £2 and super Off Peak TC £14.10 so after 10:30am, All step free access taxi drive time 45 minutes on a good day Taxi price aroudn £100 give of take a bit so, Group save tickets means anyone in a group of 3 or more gat get a third off, I can see this hitting that route really hard.
Off peak contactless / Oyster is £18.70. National Express costs £27 for the same journey.
In life cheapest is not always the best option
Crossrail will heavily reduce the amount of trade that the private hire industry can do this is because they are not allowed in the bus lanes. So UBER could lose some money. The black cabs will still get the same money.
Let's hope so.
not a bad way to put money into economy but if thats the aim then they could be giving massive tips
You can't beat the comfort of a black cab
The mini cabs will lose out heavily on the Elizabeth Line route this because the mini cabs can't use the bus lanes.
Hey Tom are you going to do another drive with me video?
I need to pull my finger out and spend a long stint editing 👍🏻
With trains and buses to Heathrow or Gatwick (actually all the airports) you gave to factor in the long walk from Heathrow Central to the terminal. The cabs drop right outside the terminal so better if you have luggage.
Wish I had chosen cab over underground when I last visited because the GF got stressed and does not like the noise of the underground and struggled with cases on the first and last day of our trip
I think Tom we will lose some and win some.
Tom you sound like you had a few pints in this video. 😆
2 months dry 🙌🏻
I’ve been thinking about the effect the line will have. And I came to a conclusion to which I could be wrong, is that the line it runs on is shared by current trains operating, which could cause more delays that already occur. Overcrowded line if you like.
The central section is not shared with other train operators.
I'd get a taxi if I didnt have a free bus pass...😉 🤣
Now that’s a perk Anton!
Tom
Any less diesel journeys are a win win, no matter the convenience to some people of cabs.
I see miffy
Maybe it shouldn’t in my opinion. At least the Elizabeth Line is to benefit from what commuters wants when travelling from the East or West.
Got a Black Cab from Cavendish Square to Paddington then Heathrow Express last week. Cost £35 each and due to delays took an hour and a half. Will think twice next time. No brainer if you’re not by yourself.
Gosh the traffic must have been horrendous. I do Hanover square to paddington daily in a black cab to paddington around £11.40 on average.
@@chrisstjohn9403 Yeah the Taxi was actually about £12 + £50 for the HEX was about £65 in total for 2 people. Taxi would have been quicker and probably not much more expensive.
Oh and by the way Paddington Station is a mess. Signage directs HEX passengers from the rank out towards Tanner Lane then Praed Street. I’m pretty sure you can still access by going the other way.
No.1 reason why people get an expensive taxi...because someone else is paying for it!
Celebrities have chaffeurs
Heathrow Express doesn’t expect a tip on the fare, taxi drivers do. That 15-20% you never take into account.
Tips are generally only expected in the US, from what i've seen there is little expectation that a cab passenger will tip 20%
Passengers certainly tip 15% and less than ten will get you some profane mumbling from many black cab drivers
I don’t expect a tip . It’s optional & doesn’t need to be 15%
why would you include tips, if you want to tip that's up to the passengers .
@@JAMZ6 Great but not all black cab drivers are like you. Like any industry black cab drivers are a mixed bunch. But a tip is part of the cost and the likely tip (lets agree on 10%) to LHR is as much as the Underground fare. Leaving out tips when making price comparisons to Public Transport isn’t very fair as most people pay and most taxi drivers expect a tip.
😂
Not for 12 months at least as its only a half baked , segmented service thats being offered so far.
Depends if you want to chat about politics, Brexit, football or something or wish to travel in silence 😂
Roaders go to the PHV mob