When I use my Zhongli I feel nearly invincible for the most part but I don’t think I have him built properly bc I want him to do decent dmg (65kish w/ult) but I also want his shield to be sturdy af. All that aside though when I bring out Albedo with Zhongli it’s like a whole new ball game. His pillars smack and both characters ults return so quickly it’s ridiculous. People down Albedo but he’s top tier in my book for sure.
i just hit my highest number i chamber 11 vs the jadeplume😭 The problem Is Raiden did 456k with only yelan's passive and bennet, i was NOT expecting that i thought it was 45k but i found it weird cuz the jadeplume's hp VANISHED😭😭😭
When you're using Albedo vs. a large boss like Tulpa, you want to plant his flower off to the side so it doesn't get immediately erased. You kept trying to plant it directly under him, so Albedo was basically doing jack for the entire fight.
Ya...honestly may have been a better idea to go Itto (if he had him) to give him 2 main dps units and have him in when Navia's 2 e skills are recharging (she should provide enough ER to get Itto back up before his CD ends when she's up). Or he could've went just Navia (at about 140 ER her burst will be back off CD and you could rely on the burst to build crystals and just use them pre 6 shells (he didn't have 6 shells most of the time anyway) and maybe an ice or pyro 2nd dps (Wrio can kill the mini tulpa's almost instantly, well on the world boss version anyway...haven't done this abyss yet, and Pyro would kill them with vape pretty quickly too...even a well built Diluc would probably be good here especially since you can swap him in and out after his burst and still have the flame infused normals between Navia's shots).
I wish they would change how fragile geo constructs can be and how fussy they are with spawning/hitboxes. Especially if you try to have multiple geo contstructs, the game really doesn't like spawning them near each others. Just have it spawn off to the side if its somehow blocked by something.
@@ifrit1937 I think Albedo is fine vs. Tulpa, as Tulpa tends to do slow big hits so as long as your placement is good you should have solid uptime on his flower. I used Bennett / Xiangling / Klee / Albedo for top half, it was super effective. Navia would probably slot in easily for either pyro (didn't have better 2nd geo option).
@@jepeman its a collision box problem. Imagine them indestructible but large enemies get caught on top of it like Zhongli's pillar or Albedo's elevator flower. The most accurate displacement a geo construct would do is vertically like how Geo Traveler's pushes the enemies onto the roof of the meteor.
The sucrose national team is one of the OG teams. A slight upgrade is a Kazuha national team which I tried to do for floor 12 but I forgot how annoying the thunder bird is. Sadly I had to go running back to Neuvillette lol. We should enjoy the easy abyss while we have it, I’ve heard Wenut is returning soon
5:10 Xiangling is the dps in international. Sucrose international does require a bit more of setup to get max value. If Moga had even just used sucrose e before xiangling so she could snapshot the em buff the dps would have gone up by a lot more. Moga if you want a video idea try learning the rotation of sucrose national and see how massive of a difference it makes. And in the right setups you can get xingqiu to nuke his skill too.
I can’t be the only one who got mopped across the floor by the hydro tulpa multiple times even with a fully built Baizhu on my team😭 Furina wasn’t helping though tbh just there draining my hp
I’m not sure what team you were using but I mean not sure what you expect since Furina is more or less a near negligible teammate there. This boss is both easy and hard-easy if you have the right units, and hard if you don’t realize the mechanics and/or are using Benny
Same lol, only got 36 stars by 1 sec tho lmao. I was extremely happy when I saw I was able to do it, I had to repeat the 2nd chamber like 30 times cuz the internet kept lagging 💀
This Abyss was really easy, easiest in quite a while I am sure that majority of people who die to Tulpa are using bennett, just leave that crutch at home and he won't oneshot you with a vape
The Hydro Tulpa wasn't so bad for me Hu Tao basically went against it solo with Zhongli shield because neither Yelan nor Xingqiu did anything here lol Second Half DPS Kazuha sweep :3
I push it with Hu Tao, Xiangling, Furina, Zhongli. somewhat over compensating, but I really didn't feel like carrying 2 freeloader in the team. also I think I wanted yelan and bro dealing with the thunderbird cause i am lazy to aim....
@lagrangewei the first two chambers Yelan and Xingqiu did the work of god with Vaporize, third chamber they just got a small break from being good I didn't mind that because I knew even if first half took a bit longer, my second half team would just shred everything (Kazuha, Faruzan, Jean and Furina) But Hu Tao didn't take too long, I'm happy with her she does so well for me
Thankfully this abyss is arguably the easiest abyss we've had in many patches. I struggle a bit with abyss but this time I brute forced every floor without needing to restart a single time. Let's hope Hoyo keeps it up with these abyss cycles.
@@ctran1955my eula burst does around 400k nuke but nit on the f***ing thunderbird… had to restart 5 times because that twat plays neo from matrix right before the explosion…
this abyss was my first 36* on my first attempt, which is quite surprising cuz i dont rlly have good rotations lol, i think its just because it wasnt that bad as some others hoyo released
I used Navia, Xiangling, Bennet, and Albedo on first half floor 12 and was able to 36 star abyss on my first attempt. Navia hits hard like o_o I’ve never run through and abyss that felt this easy
My solve for this with raiden national is making sure I run circles around it to try and avoid their hits. Having Xinqui, even without his damage, his defensive capabilities helped when I couldn’t dodge.
Yeah, that's the rough part, if you need Benny to get through his hp and/or the other floors. But him being hydro works in your favor as well... super easy to trash with pyro, electro, and dendro DPS, since it comes pre-hydro'd.
it took me many resets to figure out a good team for the hydro boss and i finally cleared it with a wriothesly melt team since i was using a hyperbloom team for the second half
for floor 12 i used navia albedo xiangling bennett for first half and thignari nahida fishcl zhongli for second half and it actually went super well i did it first try
I don’t know… I just used Hu Tao and Zhongli Shield on Hydro Tulpa and it was literally the easiest abyss I’ve ever done (also because of Neuvilette on the other side of course)
Hydro tulpa was too easy for me. I took navia Bennett Xiangling and albedo for first half and yoimiya xingqiu yelan Zhongli for second half and this was the easiest 36 star I've done till now
Moga can you maybe make a guide on how to beat the newest weekly boss in Honkai Star Rail im really struggling maybe you know how even a free two play like me can do it.
Hey Moga, Happy New Year! As for this abyss, I managed to clear with Tighnari/Yae/Fischl/Yaoyao on the first half and Neuvillette/Furina/Zhongli/Kazuha on the second one. What I can say is that first half was haarder, but it mosty comes down to investment (since my Fischl is a bit copium since I'm transioning her set), the second one was a breeze, since my Neuvi is that broken and Furina helped him a lot
this abyss was my first ever 36 star, I used navia/zhongli/xiangling/bennett first half, and eula/raiden/xingqiu/nahida second half - pretty much just brought eula for the shields on the geo slimes.
This abyss was actually the first one I 36*ed, it's honestly not that bad, even if I spent an hour on chamber 3, having my haitham curbstomped by the water frog. I almost regretted running nilou bloom there, but thankfully, it all worked out. Also for second half, focus the eremite's summons. If you defeat them, they get stunned and have like 40% of their hp removed, so definetely worth it.
@@N1xko Yeah it's mainly the tulpa ngl 😪nothing else poses much of a problem I feel like I can have super strong (even an overkill) team for one side, but then I miss a core component for the other. Ig I will just not bother
Navia wasn't the problem against the Tulpa bro, it was obviously Furina lol. Use the Navia, XL, Benny, ZL team and it'll do well. Seriously, the first time I did it I never even realized how tanky the Tulpa was because that Navia team was so good against it. Furina can go in the bottom half. For the second half I used Nuvi, Furina, Nahida, Kuki. No cons on Nahida or Nuvi and c1 on Furina. Not really optimal but still destroyed the second half handily Oh and it is definitely easier than the last floor 12 lol
The problem wasn't Furina either. She still buffs the team damage, and could provide extra healing if Moga just swapped her over to that mode. And yup, Albedo flower placement was bad. Ignoring the little spawns was bad. And being enamored with Mika's attack speed buff... bad.
@@Axterix13 Yeah the Albedo thing was bad, and probably even worse since at least Furina still buffs while Albedo does nothing if you let his flower get destroyed instantly. But I do think Furina was a bad choice as well. Like If that’s the hardest part of the abyss, then maybe choosing a sub dps that can’t damage the boss isn’t the best idea. Furina’s buff is good, but it’s not worth it imo if she isn’t even functional as a sub dps. Remember she’s draining your hp as well and Moga was getting killed by its attacks. Just putting Fischl or something there instead would’ve probably yielded better results even with Albedo being useless… Not to mention he could’ve then used someone better than Mica since he wouldn’t need the full team healer
Hay @moga, I’m no theory crafter, but I’ve been playing Genshin impact since release. A character I’ve always liked since I saw her was Deyah, however, as we all know she was pretty bad on release so I didn’t pull since I’m free to play and I need to maximize every pull.. recently tho while pulling I got her from the standard banner and decided to try her out despite the bad reviews.. the team consists of Deyah, Nahida, Fruina and Kuki and it’s really really good! Now you might say well those supports are busted so it’s likely them doing the bulk of the damage, and while that is true, I tried different drivers but Deyah somehow felt the most comfortable. Her pyro is slow applying, same as Fruina’s hydro and Kuki’s electro. Nahida applies a tun of dendro allowing for pretty much every reaction in the game outside of freeze, I see vaporize, bloom, hyperboom, burgeon, even overloaded and electro charged all happening and coexisting at the same time because of the slow application and different elements reacting with whatever element is currently applied. I really think a content created should review this team and tell me if there’s sum there or maybe I’m just a Deyah fanboy. Ps I tried the team on floor 12 of the abyss 1st half and actually 3 stared it Deyah was lvl 50 with lvl 1 talents and lvl 0 Hunter artifacts. All my other supports were well built tho!
This is the easiest abyss so far that I've ever cleared, I did it in one sitting without changing team comps and fixing artifacts, I used hyperbloom team in the first half then a wriothesley melt team and it went pretty smoothly
I have no idea how to deal with the hydro tulpa, i dont have any 5* pyro or geo, or anyone like alhaitham My 2nd team is hyperbloom (Kokomi,Raiden,Nahida, Furina) I tried hyperbloom on him and also quicken keqing but got wrecked because he jumps around too much
This was one of the easier abysses imo. Also call me crazy but i would rather fight 3 lv 100 tulpa than one stupid electro bat! I hate that thing omg 😂
the first time i have ever 36 starred the abyss!!! 2024 starting off so strong :DDDD its like when the uh yaaayy!!! Navia Bennett Xiangling Zhongli then Neuvillette Kazuha Furina Baizhu with furina's and baizhu's sig weapon and Redhorn on Navia :D!!!! Thanks Navia for finally letting me acheive 36 stars first try!!!!💛🥹this yearr wahoo!!!!!!!! :DDDD thank you Moga!!!! happy new yeaar!!!!
My Floor 12 team: First Half: Alhaitham, Furina, Ei, Baizhu Second Half: Neuvi, Nahida, Yae (Usually Ei cause she synergizes better but I needed her for Haitham), Zhongli. Full cleared with this team.
A surprisingly easy abyss. Expected it to be geo-gated, but no. Completed it with 3 different team comps. Hyperbloom/Spread-aggravate/Electro swirl first half; Overvape/Nilou bloom/Melt second half.
Nightmare??? Hardly! I mollywhopped this abyss first try with Navia Furina Bennett Zhongli 1st half & Alhaitham Nahida Kuki Yelan 2nd half. Navia only had 6/8/6 talents, don't even pretend this abyss was in the least bit a challenge.
So Hydro Tulpa is immune to Hydro? I dunno why I'm acting so shocked cause my Raiden National was able to carry the whole fight, I did it in almost at 8 min 50 secs remaining so i assumed that he was not immune to hydro but apparently it all happened cause my Raiden and Xiangling are broken and they carried the whole fight while Xinqiu did nothing in it... Thanks I will keep this in mind if they don't change him, funnily enough this was my first ever 6 star clear of Abyss of floor 12th which I barely able to did it. On my other half I was running Yoimiya, Yelan, Nahida and Zhongli I think no one really uses this team so I had to say it. If anyone have better recommendation they can tell me outright, cause I want to improve my teams
This abyss is so easy. Idk why ppl say it’s hard. My friends attacked me for saying that 😅 I used lots of teams for fun but my fav teams are 1st half: Alhaitham Koki baizhu furina 2nd: hutao yelan xinqui zhongli We all have almost the same characters so don’t atk me for using 5* 😂
This abyss cycle is the easiest imo. My actual first 36 star in abyss. The team I used for tulpa was Zhongli with 4pc. Deepwood, Nahida, Em stacked Raiden, Fischl and I destroyed it in 1:20. BTW I play on a potato phone.
Honestly speaking, the thunderbird was most annoying part of this abyss cycle. I finished that chamber by the skin if my teeth because I had to keep chasing after it. For Tulpa I just used Raiden National, but I swapped Xingqiu out for Nahida. It seemed to work ok.
i destroyed the abyss as f2p using neuvillette, F12 chamber 1 and 2: Way too easy, Chamber 3 First half: ☠ (Raiden and Bennett kept dying) Second half: 👌but yes 36 stars
Navia, bennet xinlang, Zhongli absolutely destroys the first half. This abyss was fun but 4.4 abyss 💀💀💀 even as a whale I don’t wanna do it. It’s dreadful , the mechanical serpent and wenut 🤮!!!!!
thankfully they didnt magnify the tulpa's HP same as other bosses usually in floor 12 the HP is around 150% HP increase, which makes the tulpa 3 million HP but theres no way thats 3M HP it dies quite fast, but at least it doesnt hide or fly like the next abyss LOL
I tried the second half with this exact team as well at first, and didn't get through the last chamber lol. Then I switched out Furina to double Pyro with Bennett Xiangling and gave my Navia a 4pc gladiators and had absolutley 0 problems. Navia is rlly good for this abyss, just not with Furina lmao
Taking Benny, if you have him at c6, against Tulpa is going to be a bad move. Glad you took Mika in Navia team. Benny ult applies pyro on character and Tulpa hydro atk can oneshot you with vape dmg XD (saw this in another cc abyss run)
I can confirm that a Nilou bloom is good for the Tulpa. I kept getting quite literally one shot with my Raiden hyper carry. Aside from Nilou bloom, a Taser team containing Yae and Fischl basically wearing it down via Electro-charged spam was good. I tanked some attacks with my Koko.
I did floor 12 with Navia Noelle Furina Yelan. Noelle pairs well with Navia as a second DPS and she gets plenty of fanfare. I could have gone Bennett instead of Yelan and probably have done a little quicker though.
Really not a Navia abyss? PMA single target huge hitbox, 4 enemies in waves and HT whos always giving you crystals for the bonus, how doesn't it look like a Navia abyss to you? The real weird thing is that it is far from being an Ayaka abyss, but she has been a wallflower in this patch, also this abyss is by far the easiest one I've seen in ages, the last chamber eremites did almost the same thing to me but I was using Neuvillette so they got atomized along their invocations at almost the same time.
I pick Hu Tao to fight Tulpa, the amount of damage it does did caught me by surprise, almost died, had to use her ult. I didn't enjoy the slime. who would know geo slime can be so annoying...
This abyss is so easy compared to the last one. The last one had such a strong hydro requirement to deal with the pyro shields. Hydro tulpa gets shredded by hyperbloom
i had to change teams after the first run to get 3 stars on 12-3. my Noelle team wasn't cutting it at all on the tulpa,i used raiden,nahida,baizu and kuki. can hyperbloom without using hydro. easy
Just the amount of damage and crystal shards you were missing by misplacing Albedo's flower when fighting against the Hydro Tulpa was painful to watch 😖
We literally use the "same" team except i use Navia, Albedo, Furina and Bennett and the ohter side was Yoimiya, Xingqui, Yelan and Zhongli that was easy honestly
Just a question, is it just me, or do the thunderhelm lavachurl are actually very weak, as in like take a lot of damage? It may just be a placebo but i feel out of all lava churls, they deal the most damage, but also take the most damage, its like Highest atk but also pretty low defense situation. Is it actually true or just something that i have forced myself to believe?
Brother i did the last chamber with extra 30 secs the thing u can do if u have navia is use her with benny zhong and xiangling And in the second half you can use hyperbloom I used ayato with kuki yao yao and furina and it did the job easily
This abyss is ez, but be mentally prepared for the next abyss update. The enemies on floor 12 are not difficult but astronomically annoying at the same floor
this is the first abyss i 36 starred. easiest way to deal with the tulpa... nilou bountiful core team. nahida, nilou, furina, and baizhu. nahida also gets rid of the little guys that show up with her skill.
My Hu Tao team still destroyed first half and my Neuvillette team destroyed the second on the first go. Glad it went smoothly, Neuvillette is amazing as always.
Ngl, the enemies are very tanky but its easier than I thought. Even though my crackhead wanted the perfect 2nd half eula so had to retry for too many times
But to be honest, this abyss ain't as bad as ones we had
if we remember abysses 3.5-3.6 - it becomes scary how difficult it was.... but yes, i agree, now all the abysses are very easy.
?@@ilvkfk 😭 i wasn't able to clear last abyss
you mean to say 3.6 and 3.5 (with Worms) @@ilvkfk
Nilou bloom absolutely destroyed everything for me, very cheap to build yet an OP team at the same time.
@@Nodaysofpeace ah, it's so sad. but i believe in you, u will definitely be able to clear the subsequent abysses. :)
Imagine killing Tulpas adds he spawns
When I use my Zhongli I feel nearly invincible for the most part but I don’t think I have him built properly bc I want him to do decent dmg (65kish w/ult) but I also want his shield to be sturdy af. All that aside though when I bring out Albedo with Zhongli it’s like a whole new ball game. His pillars smack and both characters ults return so quickly it’s ridiculous. People down Albedo but he’s top tier in my book for sure.
Looks like i might try floor 12. The rewards generally arent worth my time, but maybe this time.
i just hit my highest number i chamber 11 vs the jadeplume😭 The problem Is Raiden did 456k with only yelan's passive and bennet, i was NOT expecting that i thought it was 45k but i found it weird cuz the jadeplume's hp VANISHED😭😭😭
Least it isn’t as bad as the 3.7 abyss right?
When you're using Albedo vs. a large boss like Tulpa, you want to plant his flower off to the side so it doesn't get immediately erased.
You kept trying to plant it directly under him, so Albedo was basically doing jack for the entire fight.
Ya...honestly may have been a better idea to go Itto (if he had him) to give him 2 main dps units and have him in when Navia's 2 e skills are recharging (she should provide enough ER to get Itto back up before his CD ends when she's up).
Or he could've went just Navia (at about 140 ER her burst will be back off CD and you could rely on the burst to build crystals and just use them pre 6 shells (he didn't have 6 shells most of the time anyway) and maybe an ice or pyro 2nd dps (Wrio can kill the mini tulpa's almost instantly, well on the world boss version anyway...haven't done this abyss yet, and Pyro would kill them with vape pretty quickly too...even a well built Diluc would probably be good here especially since you can swap him in and out after his burst and still have the flame infused normals between Navia's shots).
I wish they would change how fragile geo constructs can be and how fussy they are with spawning/hitboxes. Especially if you try to have multiple geo contstructs, the game really doesn't like spawning them near each others. Just have it spawn off to the side if its somehow blocked by something.
@@jepemangeo constructs are a cool idea, except for the fact that every boss enemy in the game causes them to evaporate.
@@ifrit1937 I think Albedo is fine vs. Tulpa, as Tulpa tends to do slow big hits so as long as your placement is good you should have solid uptime on his flower.
I used Bennett / Xiangling / Klee / Albedo for top half, it was super effective. Navia would probably slot in easily for either pyro (didn't have better 2nd geo option).
@@jepeman its a collision box problem. Imagine them indestructible but large enemies get caught on top of it like Zhongli's pillar or Albedo's elevator flower. The most accurate displacement a geo construct would do is vertically like how Geo Traveler's pushes the enemies onto the roof of the meteor.
this one is one of the easiest abyss ive ever done...no dumb enemies stalling for time
Enjoy it cause 4.4 Abyss is bringing the time wasters in bulk 😭(Both Wenut and Ruin Serpant return, and both on floor 12)
@@HondEpicthis should be a crime
Agreed comrade, agreed@@maxtotheham
Except the 2nd half of 2nd chamber. The slime and geo mfs are so resistant to my Noelle 😭
wenut should be banned in spiral abyss 🤣🤣🤣
that mf gave me anxiety for real 😭😭
The sucrose national team is one of the OG teams. A slight upgrade is a Kazuha national team which I tried to do for floor 12 but I forgot how annoying the thunder bird is. Sadly I had to go running back to Neuvillette lol. We should enjoy the easy abyss while we have it, I’ve heard Wenut is returning soon
Nooo, not the stupid invulnerability animations worm.
@@jepemanand the yelan/kuki worm too
5:10 Xiangling is the dps in international. Sucrose international does require a bit more of setup to get max value. If Moga had even just used sucrose e before xiangling so she could snapshot the em buff the dps would have gone up by a lot more.
Moga if you want a video idea try learning the rotation of sucrose national and see how massive of a difference it makes. And in the right setups you can get xingqiu to nuke his skill too.
I can’t be the only one who got mopped across the floor by the hydro tulpa multiple times even with a fully built Baizhu on my team😭 Furina wasn’t helping though tbh just there draining my hp
I’m not sure what team you were using but I mean not sure what you expect since Furina is more or less a near negligible teammate there. This boss is both easy and hard-easy if you have the right units, and hard if you don’t realize the mechanics and/or are using Benny
I don't know why you would use Furina vs the Tulpa since its imune to hydro
@@RewZesfurina is still an immense buffer
I used childe nat with sucrose(no kazuha🗿) when facing the boss and it was pretty chill,did die 2 times cuz it was my first time facing the boss
Baizhu is NOT a shielder, don't even try to build him for that
This is my first abyss that I 36 stared, was so happy because it didn`t even took that many tries, like, I hit restart button only ~5 times
Guess it`s just skill
W bro 🗣
Same here
Same lol, only got 36 stars by 1 sec tho lmao. I was extremely happy when I saw I was able to do it, I had to repeat the 2nd chamber like 30 times cuz the internet kept lagging 💀
This is by far the easier abyss I've encountered I think.
This Abyss was really easy, easiest in quite a while
I am sure that majority of people who die to Tulpa are using bennett, just leave that crutch at home and he won't oneshot you with a vape
i was using lyney mono-pyro, wich includes bennet, and is took like 20 tries before icould even get to the second chamber
The Hydro Tulpa wasn't so bad for me
Hu Tao basically went against it solo with Zhongli shield because neither Yelan nor Xingqiu did anything here lol
Second Half DPS Kazuha sweep :3
Wth is a DPS Kazuha?!
@@WakanaGojo86 Kazuha built on crit instead of full EM
I push it with Hu Tao, Xiangling, Furina, Zhongli. somewhat over compensating, but I really didn't feel like carrying 2 freeloader in the team. also I think I wanted yelan and bro dealing with the thunderbird cause i am lazy to aim....
@lagrangewei the first two chambers Yelan and Xingqiu did the work of god with Vaporize, third chamber they just got a small break from being good
I didn't mind that because I knew even if first half took a bit longer, my second half team would just shred everything (Kazuha, Faruzan, Jean and Furina)
But Hu Tao didn't take too long, I'm happy with her she does so well for me
“This floor was definitely made for Navia”
*uses anyone but navia*
This is the first abyss I’ve cleared since mid 2021, definitely one of the easiest
Thankfully this abyss is arguably the easiest abyss we've had in many patches. I struggle a bit with abyss but this time I brute forced every floor without needing to restart a single time. Let's hope Hoyo keeps it up with these abyss cycles.
I was a fool and had to restart the first chamber bc I forget just how annoying the thunder bird is. I haven’t needed to restart chambers in a while 😂
Restarted like 4 times which was a massive improvement compared to literally all my previous abyss runs lmao
@@ctran1955my eula burst does around 400k nuke but nit on the f***ing thunderbird… had to restart 5 times because that twat plays neo from matrix right before the explosion…
this abyss was my first 36* on my first attempt, which is quite surprising cuz i dont rlly have good rotations lol, i think its just because it wasnt that bad as some others hoyo released
I used Navia, Xiangling, Bennet, and Albedo on first half floor 12 and was able to 36 star abyss on my first attempt. Navia hits hard like o_o I’ve never run through and abyss that felt this easy
The problem I had is that the tulpa’s hits are hydro. If I am standing in bennet burst and get hit by it I get vaporised literally and figuratively
My solve for this with raiden national is making sure I run circles around it to try and avoid their hits. Having Xinqui, even without his damage, his defensive capabilities helped when I couldn’t dodge.
Yeah, that's the rough part, if you need Benny to get through his hp and/or the other floors. But him being hydro works in your favor as well... super easy to trash with pyro, electro, and dendro DPS, since it comes pre-hydro'd.
neuvillette's pump does reach thunder bird and he was quite fast with it.
a nilou nahida neuvillette and baizhu team would work well for f12
it took me many resets to figure out a good team for the hydro boss and i finally cleared it with a wriothesly melt team since i was using a hyperbloom team for the second half
for floor 12 i used navia albedo xiangling bennett for first half and thignari nahida fishcl zhongli for second half and it actually went super well i did it first try
I don’t know… I just used Hu Tao and Zhongli Shield on Hydro Tulpa and it was literally the easiest abyss I’ve ever done (also because of Neuvilette on the other side of course)
the thunder dude is the real problem hahaha f***ing teleport …
@@ranges787 I fell you but since I got Neuvilette it is actually really easy 😅
I want abysses like 3.5-3.7 again they were so hard but so fun because of it!!!
Probably miHoYo will do that on 4.5-4.7
why not use Furina on healing mode? makes so much easier to survive and stack fanfare the same
Hydro tulpa was too easy for me. I took navia Bennett Xiangling and albedo for first half and yoimiya xingqiu yelan Zhongli for second half and this was the easiest 36 star I've done till now
Moga can you maybe make a guide on how to beat the newest weekly boss in Honkai Star Rail im really struggling maybe you know how even a free two play like me can do it.
You say Abyss is a nightmare and I just cleared it with 36 stars for my first time in over 3 years playing Genshin 😂
Hey Moga, Happy New Year!
As for this abyss, I managed to clear with Tighnari/Yae/Fischl/Yaoyao on the first half and Neuvillette/Furina/Zhongli/Kazuha on the second one.
What I can say is that first half was haarder, but it mosty comes down to investment (since my Fischl is a bit copium since I'm transioning her set), the second one was a breeze, since my Neuvi is that broken and Furina helped him a lot
This is the first time I 36-stared with my alt f2p account with not-so-good artifacts.
this abyss was my first ever 36 star, I used navia/zhongli/xiangling/bennett first half, and eula/raiden/xingqiu/nahida second half - pretty much just brought eula for the shields on the geo slimes.
Ayoooo…my team choice are sooo close to yours except..in the 2nd half I used furina instead of Eula and Kuki instead of raiden
I think I'm the only one who misses Beasts...
... but then again I'm masochist! 😂
I used HuTao in the first half and she shredded the Tulpa with ease
Take this as a compliment moga, but ur the only Genshin creator i watch consistently and idk why
Take a shot everytime Albedo's flower vanishes into the void upon creation
This abyss was actually the first one I 36*ed, it's honestly not that bad, even if I spent an hour on chamber 3, having my haitham curbstomped by the water frog. I almost regretted running nilou bloom there, but thankfully, it all worked out. Also for second half, focus the eremite's summons. If you defeat them, they get stunned and have like 40% of their hp removed, so definetely worth it.
The blue pig picture was soooo cute.
tulpa was pretty easy with navia,bennet,xiangling, zhongli got vaporized in bennets circle my first run but secon run clear in just couple secs
this is one of the easiest abysses in a bit, I was able to clear with klee lol
If ure usijg furinas skill against the hydro tulpa and unnecessarily draining your party's hp, atleast swotch to the healing mode??
Her buff is still useful and you kinda need to drain hp for that
This abyss was very easy I didn’t have to retry… I just did hyperbloom first half and yelan vaporize team second half
I'm in the minority of people but I hate this abbyss, I prefer the last one 😭this I could barely clear at some points
understandable this abyss is mainly a dps check which is harder to brute force without the investment than elemental/shield breaking check
@@N1xko Yeah it's mainly the tulpa ngl 😪nothing else poses much of a problem I feel like I can have super strong (even an overkill) team for one side, but then I miss a core component for the other. Ig I will just not bother
Deyha was very good for me chamber 2 second half! Her punches break geo shields very easily
I found it quite fun and easy!
Bro what "nightmare" are you referring to?💀
Navia wasn't the problem against the Tulpa bro, it was obviously Furina lol. Use the Navia, XL, Benny, ZL team and it'll do well. Seriously, the first time I did it I never even realized how tanky the Tulpa was because that Navia team was so good against it. Furina can go in the bottom half.
For the second half I used Nuvi, Furina, Nahida, Kuki. No cons on Nahida or Nuvi and c1 on Furina. Not really optimal but still destroyed the second half handily
Oh and it is definitely easier than the last floor 12 lol
the real probelm is the god awful albedo flower placement, i swear this dude can never seem to place it correctly lol
The problem wasn't Furina either. She still buffs the team damage, and could provide extra healing if Moga just swapped her over to that mode.
And yup, Albedo flower placement was bad. Ignoring the little spawns was bad. And being enamored with Mika's attack speed buff... bad.
@@Axterix13 Yeah the Albedo thing was bad, and probably even worse since at least Furina still buffs while Albedo does nothing if you let his flower get destroyed instantly.
But I do think Furina was a bad choice as well. Like If that’s the hardest part of the abyss, then maybe choosing a sub dps that can’t damage the boss isn’t the best idea. Furina’s buff is good, but it’s not worth it imo if she isn’t even functional as a sub dps. Remember she’s draining your hp as well and Moga was getting killed by its attacks.
Just putting Fischl or something there instead would’ve probably yielded better results even with Albedo being useless… Not to mention he could’ve then used someone better than Mica since he wouldn’t need the full team healer
I love how floor 11 had 75% geo dmg bonus and moga didn’t even try navia in that chamber 😵
This abyss felt easier for my teams
Hay @moga, I’m no theory crafter, but I’ve been playing Genshin impact since release. A character I’ve always liked since I saw her was Deyah, however, as we all know she was pretty bad on release so I didn’t pull since I’m free to play and I need to maximize every pull.. recently tho while pulling I got her from the standard banner and decided to try her out despite the bad reviews.. the team consists of Deyah, Nahida, Fruina and Kuki and it’s really really good! Now you might say well those supports are busted so it’s likely them doing the bulk of the damage, and while that is true, I tried different drivers but Deyah somehow felt the most comfortable. Her pyro is slow applying, same as Fruina’s hydro and Kuki’s electro. Nahida applies a tun of dendro allowing for pretty much every reaction in the game outside of freeze, I see vaporize, bloom, hyperboom, burgeon, even overloaded and electro charged all happening and coexisting at the same time because of the slow application and different elements reacting with whatever element is currently applied. I really think a content created should review this team and tell me if there’s sum there or maybe I’m just a Deyah fanboy. Ps I tried the team on floor 12 of the abyss 1st half and actually 3 stared it Deyah was lvl 50 with lvl 1 talents and lvl 0 Hunter artifacts. All my other supports were well built tho!
This is the easiest abyss so far that I've ever cleared, I did it in one sitting without changing team comps and fixing artifacts, I used hyperbloom team in the first half then a wriothesley melt team and it went pretty smoothly
I have no idea how to deal with the hydro tulpa, i dont have any 5* pyro or geo, or anyone like alhaitham
My 2nd team is hyperbloom (Kokomi,Raiden,Nahida, Furina)
I tried hyperbloom on him and also quicken keqing but got wrecked because he jumps around too much
This was one of the easier abysses imo. Also call me crazy but i would rather fight 3 lv 100 tulpa than one stupid electro bat! I hate that thing omg 😂
the first time i have ever 36 starred the abyss!!! 2024 starting off so strong :DDDD
its like when the uh
yaaayy!!! Navia Bennett Xiangling Zhongli then Neuvillette Kazuha Furina Baizhu with furina's and baizhu's sig weapon and Redhorn on Navia :D!!!! Thanks Navia for finally letting me acheive 36 stars first try!!!!💛🥹this yearr wahoo!!!!!!!! :DDDD thank you Moga!!!! happy new yeaar!!!!
My Floor 12 team:
First Half: Alhaitham, Furina, Ei, Baizhu
Second Half: Neuvi, Nahida, Yae (Usually Ei cause she synergizes better but I needed her for Haitham), Zhongli.
Full cleared with this team.
A surprisingly easy abyss. Expected it to be geo-gated, but no.
Completed it with 3 different team comps.
Hyperbloom/Spread-aggravate/Electro swirl first half;
Overvape/Nilou bloom/Melt second half.
Nightmare??? Hardly! I mollywhopped this abyss first try with Navia Furina Bennett Zhongli 1st half & Alhaitham Nahida Kuki Yelan 2nd half. Navia only had 6/8/6 talents, don't even pretend this abyss was in the least bit a challenge.
So Hydro Tulpa is immune to Hydro? I dunno why I'm acting so shocked cause my Raiden National was able to carry the whole fight, I did it in almost at 8 min 50 secs remaining so i assumed that he was not immune to hydro but apparently it all happened cause my Raiden and Xiangling are broken and they carried the whole fight while Xinqiu did nothing in it... Thanks I will keep this in mind if they don't change him, funnily enough this was my first ever 6 star clear of Abyss of floor 12th which I barely able to did it. On my other half I was running Yoimiya, Yelan, Nahida and Zhongli I think no one really uses this team so I had to say it. If anyone have better recommendation they can tell me outright, cause I want to improve my teams
This abyss is so easy. Idk why ppl say it’s hard. My friends attacked me for saying that 😅
I used lots of teams for fun but my fav teams are
1st half: Alhaitham Koki baizhu furina
2nd: hutao yelan xinqui zhongli
We all have almost the same characters so don’t atk me for using 5* 😂
This abyss cycle is the easiest imo.
My actual first 36 star in abyss. The team I used for tulpa was Zhongli with 4pc. Deepwood, Nahida, Em stacked Raiden, Fischl and I destroyed it in 1:20.
BTW I play on a potato phone.
Honestly speaking, the thunderbird was most annoying part of this abyss cycle. I finished that chamber by the skin if my teeth because I had to keep chasing after it.
For Tulpa I just used Raiden National, but I swapped Xingqiu out for Nahida. It seemed to work ok.
i destroyed the abyss as f2p using neuvillette, F12 chamber 1 and 2: Way too easy, Chamber 3 First half: ☠ (Raiden and Bennett kept dying) Second half: 👌but yes 36 stars
run a ei john lee benny xinagling ei q focus with at least 400k dmg/q build and ez 40 second abyss clear lmao
Navia, bennet xinlang, Zhongli absolutely destroys the first half. This abyss was fun but 4.4 abyss 💀💀💀 even as a whale I don’t wanna do it. It’s dreadful , the mechanical serpent and wenut 🤮!!!!!
That overgrown water drop I hate it even nilou bloom doesn't do enough dammage
thankfully they didnt magnify the tulpa's HP same as other bosses
usually in floor 12 the HP is around 150% HP increase, which makes the tulpa 3 million HP but theres no way thats 3M HP it dies quite fast, but at least it doesnt hide or fly like the next abyss LOL
I tried the second half with this exact team as well at first, and didn't get through the last chamber lol. Then I switched out Furina to double Pyro with Bennett Xiangling and gave my Navia a 4pc gladiators and had absolutley 0 problems. Navia is rlly good for this abyss, just not with Furina lmao
Taking Benny, if you have him at c6, against Tulpa is going to be a bad move. Glad you took Mika in Navia team. Benny ult applies pyro on character and Tulpa hydro atk can oneshot you with vape dmg XD (saw this in another cc abyss run)
I can confirm that a Nilou bloom is good for the Tulpa. I kept getting quite literally one shot with my Raiden hyper carry.
Aside from Nilou bloom, a Taser team containing Yae and Fischl basically wearing it down via Electro-charged spam was good. I tanked some attacks with my Koko.
use Neuvillette with Zhongli for second half. my Neuvillette solo the second half without any problems!
I did floor 12 with Navia Noelle Furina Yelan. Noelle pairs well with Navia as a second DPS and she gets plenty of fanfare. I could have gone Bennett instead of Yelan and probably have done a little quicker though.
Using Nahida-Kuki-Xingqiu-Yaoyao Hyperbloom team against the Hydro Tulpa is almost no-brainer unless you aren't looking at the screen when fighting
haha, can't believe i had a better navia exspeirence against tulpia using: navia, fishle, ganyu and C6 gorou.
Really not a Navia abyss? PMA single target huge hitbox, 4 enemies in waves and HT whos always giving you crystals for the bonus, how doesn't it look like a Navia abyss to you?
The real weird thing is that it is far from being an Ayaka abyss, but she has been a wallflower in this patch, also this abyss is by far the easiest one I've seen in ages, the last chamber eremites did almost the same thing to me but I was using Neuvillette so they got atomized along their invocations at almost the same time.
I pick Hu Tao to fight Tulpa, the amount of damage it does did caught me by surprise, almost died, had to use her ult.
I didn't enjoy the slime. who would know geo slime can be so annoying...
This abyss is so easy compared to the last one. The last one had such a strong hydro requirement to deal with the pyro shields. Hydro tulpa gets shredded by hyperbloom
i had to change teams after the first run to get 3 stars on 12-3. my Noelle team wasn't cutting it at all on the tulpa,i used raiden,nahida,baizu and kuki. can hyperbloom without using hydro. easy
please, im begging on my knees rn, as an albedo main and simp, PLACE THE FLOWER TO THE SIDE, please moga dont do my boy like that
Just the amount of damage and crystal shards you were missing by misplacing Albedo's flower when fighting against the Hydro Tulpa was painful to watch 😖
The Tulpa was almost a joke for my Eula-Raiden team for some reason. I dont know it's mechanics, but maybe it was bc of zero interuption?
We literally use the "same" team except i use Navia, Albedo, Furina and Bennett and the ohter side was Yoimiya, Xingqui, Yelan and Zhongli that was easy honestly
This was a fun abyss, messed around with Navia, but I know when Hoyo brings out the bullsht again Ol Reliable Raiden National coming back out.
This abyss is my first 36 star
Just a question,
is it just me, or do the thunderhelm lavachurl are actually very weak, as in like take a lot of damage?
It may just be a placebo but i feel out of all lava churls, they deal the most damage, but also take the most damage, its like Highest atk but also pretty low defense situation. Is it actually true or just something that i have forced myself to believe?
Everyone out here looking crazy because Furina is on the first half😂. The Tulpa is only immune to hydro not to the damage buff Furina provides.
“Just don’t try to hyperbloom it”
Me, who often uses Alhaitham hyperbloom to destroy Jadeplume: wdym, Moga?
Hahahaaha
As someone who found the tulpa easy but kept getting f****d coming out of bursts by lawachurls Eula style... i agree, this abyss was awful
Brother i did the last chamber with extra 30 secs the thing u can do if u have navia is use her with benny zhong and xiangling
And in the second half you can use hyperbloom I used ayato with kuki yao yao and furina and it did the job easily
i decided to run nilou bloom first half and neuvillette with zhongli 2nd half on floor 12, quickly cleared all of abyss in about 30 mins.
“Just dont try and hyperbloom him”
*Me who has been hyperblooming him the past three abyss rotations in floor 12* : 👁️👄👁️
The new abyss is the Reason why i finally, Casually 36 stars, I usually don't bother to do it, But my Navia... Damn
Unsurprisingly, my underbuilt Navia can finish that Tulpa pretty quick. This abyss round rea5is made for her
bro, Yae Miko, Nahida, Fischl and Yaoyao shred the Hydro Tulpa, you just have to play it safe so you don't get exploded
Most of my well built characters are hydro how am i supposed to kill hydro tulpa, managed 35 stars because nahida is fking broken
This abyss is ez, but be mentally prepared for the next abyss update. The enemies on floor 12 are not difficult but astronomically annoying at the same floor
this is the first abyss i 36 starred. easiest way to deal with the tulpa... nilou bountiful core team. nahida, nilou, furina, and baizhu. nahida also gets rid of the little guys that show up with her skill.
My Hu Tao team still destroyed first half and my Neuvillette team destroyed the second on the first go. Glad it went smoothly, Neuvillette is amazing as always.
My first 9 star floor 12
Ngl, the enemies are very tanky but its easier than I thought. Even though my crackhead wanted the perfect 2nd half eula so had to retry for too many times
GOD TULPA
MY REACTION WAS LITERALLY JUST tulpa nooooooo
then navia died