Surely there should be exceptions where one could rent a p.o box and use that address that is effectively linked to the RP, I plan on potentially renting a p.o box for returns etc I'd have thought I could use that address which is tied to my details, I would not be able to afford hiring a RP and make all products from my home
@@revegacosmetics thank you for your reply, I do wish there was a way around this. Thank you for your videos, you are truly an angel in this space, I plan on joining your patreon soon now that I am decided on moving forward with my products ❤️.
Its enough to make anyone wanting to have a small home business decide not to. The hoops you are expected to jump through are completely excessive and only exist in the UK and EU, nowhere else in the world do they actively create a scenario of failure for the individual. The home craft maker should not be made to adhere to the same exacting and extensive legalities as say L'oreal, they have teams of lawyers and chemists paid to do the paperwork, how on earth are the home crafters expect to do the same. Only in the EU and UK is creativity taxed. Some of the legislation here in the UK has relaxed from the EU now because of Brexit, we can only hope more 'backing off' is on the way. I have my business, I do it full time and get a good wage out of it but without exaggeration the paperwork takes up 1/3 of my working week (this does not include the paperwork for HMRC), it's just not acceptable. In 6 years I have paid a little over £12,000 in assessments, no other place in the world outside of the EU and UK demand payment for creativity, its a tax by any other name.
I both agree with you and also think there still needs to be some sort of process in place to protect customers. To ensure that products are made safely. How we’d do that more affordably and accessibly for smaller creators I’m not sure, but it would be a great discussion to have, as right now, you are right. It is excessive. I try to bridge the gap and make it a little easier with my videos, templates etc and putting creators in touch with individuals and other businesses who can help make the journey a bit quicker and more affordable.
@@revegacosmetics: I believe a portal is needed and should be promoted for all products, full transparency of what is being sold and what is in a product should be available to all authorities that may need to scrutinise that product particularly for items where someone may have had an allergic reaction as a for instance. Makers should be totally and completely responsible for what is on the label under the law. An assessor looks at what you have submitted and takes your word for it, they do not break down the item and chemically analyse it for authenticity, they just accept what you have said is in the product and bill (excessively) you for the privilege, this needs to be stopped as it does not enhance the safety of anything. Also the labeling required for fragrance and essential oils is nonsense in it present format. Why would you need to tell anyone that the candle you sell needs to be dispose of the in accordance to your local authorities specifications? Why would you have to inform anyone that local wildlife maybe in danger if you use this diffuser? The fragrance warning are for those who hold and sell whole bottles of fragrance and the safety requirements needed when handling whole concentrated containers of fragrance and essential oils, it doesn't apply to the 8% of Blackberry & Bay fragrance oil in your candle or the 3% Lemongrass essential oil in your room spray. Way to many lobbyists in Brussels making jobs for themselves if you ask me.
@@revegacosmetics Product safety and labelling is paramount and for this the portal is a great way to do this. All cosmetic products should be uploaded to the portal with an exact ingrediencies list including weights and methods. All products suppliers and batch codes should be uploaded for traceability as should IFRA certificates. The label should also be included and the maker should be solely responsible under the law for what is on the label in the event a product needs to be scrutinised at a later date. Labelling for candles, diffusers and room sprays etc should not have to include the fragrance handling safety data. This data is for all people selling and receiving fragrance and essential oils in concentration such as you when you buy a bottle of fragrance oil. The handling safety information is for the maker not the end user of the product containing fragrance oil. Why would anyone buying a room spray containing 3% fragrance oil need to now about local disposal requirements or protective clothing? All assessments need to be stopped. The main purpose of an assessment is safety but unfortunately the assessor is only required to take your word for what you say is in the product, the product its self is not broken down in a lab and analysed to ensure what you say is correct, therefore assessments do not provide any safety at all. No country outside of the UK and the EU demand a home maker to pay for an assessment, they only expect, under legislation, that the label be accurate and hold the maker solely responsible if it is not.
@@revegacosmetics Product safety and labelling is paramount and for this the portal is a great way to do this. All cosmetic products should be uploaded to the portal with an exact ingrediencies list including weights and methods. All products suppliers and batch codes should be uploaded for traceability as should IFRA certificates. The label should also be included and the maker should be solely responsible under the law for what is on the label in the event a product needs to be scrutinised at a later date. Labelling for candles, diffusers and room sprays etc should not have to include the fragrance handling safety data. This data is for all people selling and receiving fragrance and essential oils in concentration such as you when you buy a bottle of fragrance oil. The handling safety information is for the maker not the end user of the product containing fragrance oil. Why would anyone buying a room spray containing 3% fragrance oil need to now about local disposal requirements or protective clothing? All assessments need to be stopped. The main purpose of an assessment is safety but unfortunately the assessor is only required to take your word for what you say is in the product, the product its self is not broken down in a lab and analysed to ensure what you say is correct, therefore assessments do not provide any safety at all. No country outside of the UK and the EU demand a home maker to pay for an assessment, they only expect, under legislation, that the label be accurate and hold the maker solely responsible if it is not.
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Surely there should be exceptions where one could rent a p.o box and use that address that is effectively linked to the RP, I plan on potentially renting a p.o box for returns etc I'd have thought I could use that address which is tied to my details, I would not be able to afford hiring a RP and make all products from my home
P.O. Boxes are specifically not allowed.
@@revegacosmetics thank you for your reply, I do wish there was a way around this. Thank you for your videos, you are truly an angel in this space, I plan on joining your patreon soon now that I am decided on moving forward with my products ❤️.
Its enough to make anyone wanting to have a small home business decide not to. The hoops you are expected to jump through are completely excessive and only exist in the UK and EU, nowhere else in the world do they actively create a scenario of failure for the individual. The home craft maker should not be made to adhere to the same exacting and extensive legalities as say L'oreal, they have teams of lawyers and chemists paid to do the paperwork, how on earth are the home crafters expect to do the same. Only in the EU and UK is creativity taxed. Some of the legislation here in the UK has relaxed from the EU now because of Brexit, we can only hope more 'backing off' is on the way. I have my business, I do it full time and get a good wage out of it but without exaggeration the paperwork takes up 1/3 of my working week (this does not include the paperwork for HMRC), it's just not acceptable. In 6 years I have paid a little over £12,000 in assessments, no other place in the world outside of the EU and UK demand payment for creativity, its a tax by any other name.
I both agree with you and also think there still needs to be some sort of process in place to protect customers. To ensure that products are made safely. How we’d do that more affordably and accessibly for smaller creators I’m not sure, but it would be a great discussion to have, as right now, you are right. It is excessive.
I try to bridge the gap and make it a little easier with my videos, templates etc and putting creators in touch with individuals and other businesses who can help make the journey a bit quicker and more affordable.
@@revegacosmetics: I believe a portal is needed and should be promoted for all products, full transparency of what is being sold and what is in a product should be available to all authorities that may need to scrutinise that product particularly for items where someone may have had an allergic reaction as a for instance. Makers should be totally and completely responsible for what is on the label under the law. An assessor looks at what you have submitted and takes your word for it, they do not break down the item and chemically analyse it for authenticity, they just accept what you have said is in the product and bill (excessively) you for the privilege, this needs to be stopped as it does not enhance the safety of anything. Also the labeling required for fragrance and essential oils is nonsense in it present format. Why would you need to tell anyone that the candle you sell needs to be dispose of the in accordance to your local authorities specifications? Why would you have to inform anyone that local wildlife maybe in danger if you use this diffuser? The fragrance warning are for those who hold and sell whole bottles of fragrance and the safety requirements needed when handling whole concentrated containers of fragrance and essential oils, it doesn't apply to the 8% of Blackberry & Bay fragrance oil in your candle or the 3% Lemongrass essential oil in your room spray. Way to many lobbyists in Brussels making jobs for themselves if you ask me.
@@revegacosmetics Product safety and labelling is paramount and for this the portal is a great way to do this. All cosmetic products should be uploaded to the portal with an exact ingrediencies list including weights and methods. All products suppliers and batch codes should be uploaded for traceability as should IFRA certificates. The label should also be included and the maker should be solely responsible under the law for what is on the label in the event a product needs to be scrutinised at a later date.
Labelling for candles, diffusers and room sprays etc should not have to include the fragrance handling safety data. This data is for all people selling and receiving fragrance and essential oils in concentration such as you when you buy a bottle of fragrance oil. The handling safety information is for the maker not the end user of the product containing fragrance oil. Why would anyone buying a room spray containing 3% fragrance oil need to now about local disposal requirements or protective clothing?
All assessments need to be stopped. The main purpose of an assessment is safety but unfortunately the assessor is only required to take your word for what you say is in the product, the product its self is not broken down in a lab and analysed to ensure what you say is correct, therefore assessments do not provide any safety at all. No country outside of the UK and the EU demand a home maker to pay for an assessment, they only expect, under legislation, that the label be accurate and hold the maker solely responsible if it is not.
@@revegacosmetics Product safety and labelling is paramount and for this the portal is a great way to do this. All cosmetic products should be uploaded to the portal with an exact ingrediencies list including weights and methods. All products suppliers and batch codes should be uploaded for traceability as should IFRA certificates. The label should also be included and the maker should be solely responsible under the law for what is on the label in the event a product needs to be scrutinised at a later date.
Labelling for candles, diffusers and room sprays etc should not have to include the fragrance handling safety data. This data is for all people selling and receiving fragrance and essential oils in concentration such as you when you buy a bottle of fragrance oil. The handling safety information is for the maker not the end user of the product containing fragrance oil. Why would anyone buying a room spray containing 3% fragrance oil need to now about local disposal requirements or protective clothing?
All assessments need to be stopped. The main purpose of an assessment is safety but unfortunately the assessor is only required to take your word for what you say is in the product, the product its self is not broken down in a lab and analysed to ensure what you say is correct, therefore assessments do not provide any safety at all. No country outside of the UK and the EU demand a home maker to pay for an assessment, they only expect, under legislation, that the label be accurate and hold the maker solely responsible if it is not.