Execution: Finding An Ethical Way to Kill
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If we're going to execute people let's be humane: trampoline & ceiling fan
Haha I think Mythbusters did and it doesn't work. With an industrial knife fan and motor then yes if I remember right that took out Buster :D
Satan: I just wanted to say I’m a huge fan
There's a paramedic version of a fish story that involves a naked woman tied to a bed and an unconscious man in a batman costume on the floor. He was her husband and was "saving her" by jumping from the dresser to the bed. There was a ceiling fan. ..she had to yell until the neighbors heard her and called 911....
LMFAO I'm dying 😂😂
We need to quit trying to make a gourmet meal out of a Twinkie. The government will be killing someone. Period. There's nothing humane about it. The only inhumane part that shouldn't happen is a failed attempt. Easy fix. Bring back the professional executioner and hanging. When it's done right it's painless, and studies indicate hanging has the greatest deterrent effect. We're not executing the person for their benefit, it's for society's. Taking any consideration for the convicted criminal in to effect in the process is counterproductive and has made the entire process more likely to fail. That is the worst possible outcome. In this case, the solution to this dilemma is the one that is most obvious, most logical, most economical and in the end, most humane.
Oddly enough, I once almost died in a lab accident from nitrogen smothering (a lab mate spotted me and pulled me out of the room) but I had felt no pain, and have no memory of actually falling unconscious. It would probably be the best way to go.
I'm glad you made it out buddy
Yeah Nitrogen displacement is no joke.
Industrial accidents like that seem to show that oxygen deprivation by nitrogen is really quick.. People keel right over. Glad you made it out!
The company I worked for lost two people to nitrogen, one who just passed out in the chamber, the other trying to rescue him. Now there are alarms everywhere.
It's the build-up of CO2, not the shortage of oxygen that triggers the hypercapnic alarm response, so inert gas can cause stealthy unconsciousness
Argon gas and carbon monoxide poisoning are, according to a British documentary the most painless and effective method of execution. It kills in seconds and makes the victim uncaring and or oblivious to the whole process.
Can we do that instead then?
@@Gilded_Cage_Princess Yes. Yes you can. GLHF.
Helium seems like the most peaceful way to enter the abyss. Also, carbon monoxide poisoning can be an extremely painful way to die.
@@Anonymous______________ It's carbon DIoxide that your body is tuned to detect an excess of and is horrible, CO just makes you see ghosts as you asphyxiate without noticing, same as with inert gases.
@@Anonymous______________ Helium can also be painful if there's oxygen in the closed in space being used
The adage that “No one knows who fires the lethal shot” in a firing squad is incorrect, anyone who has fired any firearm will know that blanks don’t cause recoil so they will all know who had the live round over blank rounds. 👍🏼
Yes, because there is no blank round!
@@captainbackflashbrother, there is literally a blank round. But yea the recoil would be much smaller, and it would be easy to tell
@@scorpionjaxxer339 Plot twist! All had blanks, but one!
You killed this video Simon! Well executed!
Lol
funny guy
CARLOS!!
Nice puns m8
Clever!
Interesting fact: The last guillotine execution in France and Star Wars have something in common. Both happened in 1977.
Aaa those French and their guillotines
An even lesser known fact: the condemned was watching "Star Wars" at the time of the execution. 😉
@@svenmorgenstern9506 at least he was watching something good
@@svenmorgenstern9506 unfortunately, he missed "The Empire Strikes Back".
You apparently missed Count Dooku's end. Revenge of the Sith, 2005.
We have tons of confiscated heroin. Heroin overdoses seem pretty painless.
I’ve always thought that this would be a great method of execution. I’ve never done heroin, but clearly it feels good otherwise people wouldn’t be doing it the way they are. Maybe heroin wouldn’t be so good because it varies so much in potency but I’m sure they could whip up some lab made opiate that would just knock you out and cause cardiac arrest.
Or prisons should hire heroin addicts. I'm sure they can find the vein for the anaesthetic drug. :D
@@Rollopp97 It would certainly be an effective method. If the heroin was acquired at source, which is easily done in Afghanistan, or if intercepted shipments are tested for purity, a strong enough dose can be found, or just use medical grade diamorphine hydrochloride instead. Total cost under $5US for the diamorphine, and 35 cents for a syringe and needle. Worst case scenario, get a doctor to insert a Central Line (central venous catheter) if required and away you go. Unconscious after 20 seconds, stop breathing shortly after...
and even if it wasn’t....
It’s a good idea in theory but these criminals have a pretty easy access to drugs in prison. I’m sure their tolerance is through the roof. My ex was an ER nurse and she said that trying to start an IV on a heroin addict was almost impossible. Their veins are huge, finding it isn’t hard, it’s keeping it in that’s almost impossible. Some of these addicts do enough in a day to kill a small horse, it’s amazing what the human body can become tolerant too. I take 23 anti seizure meds a day that don’t mix well with alcohol so I don’t drink for medical reasons. Occasionally I’ll have 2-3 beers and I’m wasted. A 6 pack of Guinness dark over the weekend and I’m good for 6 months.
We need to dig a "this is Sparta" hole. Make it deep enough that we'll never find out how cruel or unusual the bottom is.
the diplomat in 300 was just like darth maul, he lived
(0_0)....nobody else going to say anything?
I say we KISS it. We need ways to test ballistics armor, new vaccines, drugs, etc. Forget lab rats. Throw these assholes into the lab and let them be the new Guinea Pigs.
Can’t help but note the Cruel and Unusual Productions gestalt here... and at the bottom lies Batman v Superman 😱.
Ocean cliff. Cleans up after itself
Okay the guillotine actually does seem more ethical than the breaking wheel.
(executioner takes a break from smashing the condemned's limbs with the wheel)
"Ya know, guys - this seems a little...I don't know....mean. There's got to be a better way."
Well yeah lol
Fun fact, even with the breaking wheel you had to be ethical. If I remember it correctly there is at least one incident know of a german executioner who failed to properly knock the executee unconscious before putting him to the breaking wheel. This was inviolation of the law, hence the executioner was fined.
Less family fun though
@@baerververgaert1308 I read on the Wiki there are rare instances of the executioner showing mercy by starting with the neck/head before breaking the limbs and everything else.
i think high explosives is an option that often gets overlooked
*tapes dynomite to criminal and lights fuse* auf weidersein asshole
Pretty sure that might come under the unpleasant for the people watching
Honestly I 'd take that over being poisoned or shot. Instant obliteration of the brain stem.
Youd have to restrain them in such a way as to not make them a suicide bomber.
@@5alm0n depending on the crime have their victim or relatives of their victim watch I doubt they'd feel much sympathy seeing the fear or regret on their face before they disappear forever might be satisfying
we've been using "humane" methods for decades to dispatch animals, I wonder why the Captive Bolt has never been considered for capital punishment.
_Literally_ exactly what I was thinking.
Anaesthetic. Comfy chair, [albeit with lots of straps], bolt gun at correct height. Press button, sever connection of spine to base of skull. Done.
I have a feeling people would be irked by the government literally rather than figuratively slaughtering convicts like cattle.
My grandparents were at a late 1900’s public hanging. They used to point out in a picture of the huge crowd where they were standing. She was 8 yrs old, he was 15. The families met that day and became friends. So you can sort of blame an execution for me being here.
Who got hung? Interested to hear and find out if you have the info
@@jonathanhaynes605 me
Simon: "I'll spare you the gruesome details."
Me: "My disappointment is immeasurable"
Same. Like wtf did I click on this video for lol
....and my day was ruined.
Honestly, TH-cam might have removed this video
@@shayladeanvillagonzalo1192 Might of. That story about the lethal injection is quite a disturbing one.
@@upthere5826 Only if you don't care about the victims of these monsters.
Simon makes another project, now in podcast form
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Allegedly
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Allegendly
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And a research staff.
My only problem with the death penalty is it takes too long for it to happen. They sit on death row for decades in some cases. CA has a serial killer and rapist of women, men, kids & yes even entire families who has been on death row for 30 plus years!!
Execution should be hideously painfully and torturous. Imagine the pain a victim of a serial killer being tortured over hours and days before being murdered endures....
holy fucking god dude, see a psychiatrist.
Not everyone sentenced to death is a serial killer tho, so maybe it should be based on a case to case basis?
Some people commit worse crimes than others. But I definitely see where you are coming from
The British "Long Drop" method of hanging took seconds
The Soviet bullet to the back of the head was instantanious
The British use in India of stapping the condemned to a cannon was simultaniously impressive to the observer and likely painless to the victim, given the forces involved
Strangely enough, the more " ethical" the method, the more pain inflicted: if you look at the accounts of those encountering the Electric Chair, the Gas Chamber or Lethal Injection... it's not comfortable reading
The "long drop " can go terrible wrong in case of the neck not snapping immediately, there are some stomach turning stories from the late ottoman era about that kind of execution as well as the use of - not sharp enough swords to decapitate the convict..
The " back of the head" method actually has it's origin in the Nazi Germany and had more to do with spearing the executioner from having to see the victims face before the kill making this way conscripts - odenly people" more effective " killers, as for injections and electric chairs are both hypocritical since they are all about not distributing the public with grouse images that other methods produce 😏
@@Pavlos_Charalambous the British weighed the condemned and calculated the precise length so that your neck broke but you weren't decapitated.
Decapitation is gruesome and messy for those carrying it out and tidying up afterwards.
Nasty violent business but you are killing someone so that is going to work best.
C4 strapped to head probably works best
@@Pavlos_Charalambous
Sorry: " Ottoman"??? I think I said " British" ?
Also, the Bullet to the Back of the Head was effective, which was my reason for saying it was " effective": the fact that other regimes might have discovered "The Back of The Head" wasn't my criteria, plus the Nazi State usually used Decapitation as the Usual form of Execution.
@@samrussell9264 i know i just mentioned the ottoman because they were known back in their time for their messy " humane" executions 😉 they also tried the hanging method and there are accounts of people actually surviving the drop and even worse in some cases the authorities would have try the medieval method of decapitation by sword.. With even more mess being produced.. Since If the sword wasn't sharp enough it might needed several blows to kill the person that was supposed to be executed in a humane way.. Note that even if the head is barely connected to the body that person knew what was happening..
Also in my country they used to execute convicts by firing squad 7 usually conscripted soldiers with one firing blanks and one officer responsible for the procedure, actually in case that death wasn't immediate the officer had to give the " mercy shot" by his own revolver.. And you can imagine how that was effecting everybody involved
In a number of countries, assisted suicide is legal. As I understand it, the patient ingests a large overdose of barbiturates and then quietly goes to sleep. If they can do it for assisted suicide, then why not use the same procedure for executions.
Have to agree. You can't imagine Dignitas using anything that would cause pain or distress, so there must be something in their method that could be used in executions too.
The reason is that sounds too nice to those who still seek retribution through the death penalty. Those who favour capital punishment don't actually care at all for the condemned's suffering and many actively speak out in favour of more suffering. That says as much about them as it does the person to be executed, in my opinion.
I was thinking about this the whole video 🫤
@@Stigstigster I am one of them. The fact you think it should be humane to someone that was INhumane in their own actions, speak more about you.
@@loki76 that's not justice though, it's revenge, and they aren't the same thing, and it's why personal opinion should be taken out of the equation as much as possible. Would I want to beat someone to death if they harmed my family? Of course. But that's revenge, and as much as I wouldn't like it at the time, that's not what justice is about
1:55 - Chapter 1 - The quest for better executions
4:30 - Chapter 2 - Electric chair
7:30 - Chapter 3 - Lethal injection
10:25 - Chapter 4 - The doctor's opinion
12:15 - Chapter 5 - Alternatives
14:15 - Chapter 6 - Cruel & unusual
Simon is the only person that can talk about execution with a smile on his face
I think Futurama found the most ethical way to kill someone:
Death by snu snu.
death by suicide booths
SNU SNU!
Ladies the Spirit is willing but the flesh is bruise and spongy.
Hermermephermer or what?!
@@Jdne199311 I never thought I would die this way. But I always hoped.
TH-cam: "I'm Sorry Simon you've reached your channel limit"
Simon: "Time to start branching out into podcasts boys"
Need a Blazecast. It'd be like FDR's Fireside Chats only with a British accent and cocaine. Also Danny. All in glorious Dooby 5.1...I mean Dolby 5.1!
@@bateman2112 ....and cocaine...
Simon, this issue has already been resolved years ago. There is an interesting BBC documentary about it. The anwer is: removal of oxygen (asphyxiation), so a gas chamber with nitrogen would work perfectly. 100% certainty of death and no pain or (more than a little) anxiety: humans do not notice a lack of oxygen, one does just faint and never wake up.
Spain last used the garrote as a means of execution in1974. I think the two humans killed that day did rather notice a lack of oxygen.
No, this comment is stupid. Imagine drowning, but without the water 🤦♂️
Really like your documentaries chap keep them coming.
Don't burn out Simon. You're putting out a heck of a lot of content.
He looks like he is needing a fix in this video
The boy with the blaze has enough product.co to keep going easily, allegedly
Hopefully it isn't too much, he has writers and editors, but he does have to talk in front of a camera almost all day everyday to hammer these out for us. Imagine if he had to write these as well.
He's like TH-cam Jesus. He sacrifices himself and his time to save the rest of us from boredom.
Mind your business john
I mean a single direct gunshot to the head from a high power rifle round like a soft point or hollow point hunting round would probably be the quickest,easiest, cheapest way to kill someone. The person doesn't even have time to hear the bang as the round is super sonic. But I guess no one wants to do it cus its messy orwhatever. Just build a robot that automatically pulls the trigger. Its 2021 it's not that difficult. Other good bets would be a small amount of c4 attached to the person's head to be remotely detonated. Again. Instant. Cheap. But messy. I feel like messy shouldn't even be a consideration. Shit build a trap door in the room that automatically drops them into an incinerator sweetie Todd style. Cheap.Quick. easy clean up.
Or ban capital punishment?
@@pretzelstick320 murder is against the law, but people still do it. Why should the tax payers pay to keep them alive?
windrider65 because innocent people are found guilty more often than you think. There are exceptions like Ted bundy or Jeffrey damer, and only in these special cases of evil and cruelty do I think execution is necessary.
@@pretzelstick320 I know the system is is flawed. I'm just thinking about when the proof is solid.
windrider65 It currently costs more to put a person to death because of unlimited appeals in the States. Eliminating it will run into human rights violations.
Ah yes, Hippocrates... the one who came up with an efficient method to transport a hippopotamus.
Wonderful video to share with the family
Is it bad that i laughed when he said theirs virtually no way of botching the guillotine?
If you can weigh someone and measure the length of the role then the neck will break resulting instant death.
@@julianshepherd2038 that has a history of getting botched a lot. Saddam Hussein got his head torn off because the drop was too long. If the drop is too short then you just suffocate which is cruel.
@@charliewhiskey8440 It wasn’t actually Saddam but it was one of the guys hung at the same time as him
@@burkey1878 was that because they didn't match the victim to the rope? If they used the same length for all the heaviest one risks being decapitated and the lightest left choking.
@@MartinWillett Yes. I think there is some sort of chart or calculation they can use that tells them based on the height and weight what length to use to get the neck to snap without either of the outcomes you described. Too short or the person isn’t heavy enough: they choke/suffocate. Too long a rope or too heavy a person and there’s a risk of full or partial decapitation
I know its never as easy as it sounds, but come on,,, MORPHINE. its everywhere, cheap and easy. You go to sleep and stop breathing with zero pain. thats from personal experiance. obviously survived lol. Doubt youd get many complaints.
So how much pain when that one is botched? When you only wake up addicted?
@@ramsesv5339 The likelihood of addiction would be marginal for example morphine is used in car accidents everyday and not everyone comes away with an addiction.
U can't become addicted after 1 dose. And it's hard to get wrong. With a tiny bit of research they would find a good dose size. The more the better
@@ramsesv5339 I’ve overdosed on heroin and other opiates many times. Had to be brought back. Pretty much no pain. Just falling asleep and if you survive just like waking up with a bad hangover.
But then it would be a lot harder for pharmaceutical companies to sell the "executioner's drug" to the public. It's an optics thing. Too bad they just ensured people would start executing themselves instead
If someone being executed had caused pain to their victim during a murder or rape etc., their pain during execution should not matter
Semantics.
Which class of drug do we use to treat severe pain? Opiates.
Which class of drug causes progressive sedation, respiratory arrest and ultimately (pain free) death. Opiates.
Problem solved.
They’ve actually wanted to do this for a while but the drug companies fight against it in court tooth and nail, the guy who was supposed to be the first person executed with fentanyls execution got delayed so many times due to the legal battles that he eventually committed suicide, there’s a vice documentary about it
I’m a nurse that believes in law and order, seeing so much disorder working an emergency dept. My suggestion is this, put a hard-hat divers helmet on their head, and use nitrogen or helium. They would not realize that they are suffocating as the body uses carbon-dioxide to determine that they are suffocating. There is a period where the condemned will experience euphoria before they go to the sweet by and by.
Hey now. I like that.
I am with you, but if we read how badly these executions can go, you must also read wait the criminal did to their victims....
You know putting a man to death harms the guard(s) task with performing the act right?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
11% of people executed were exonerated after they were killed by the state
If you’re okay with this happening to murderers you should remind yourself that it will always happen to innocent people as long as the justice system is as screwed as it is.
An eye for an eye soon leaves the whole world blind, my friend. And right now or society's vision is pretty myopic to begin with.
"I am with you,"
No, you are not. You fundamentally do not understand how the world works and THIS: "you must also read wait the criminal did to their victims...." proves that fact.
Never gets boring, I would've turned up every day if Simon was my teacher- altho I still aced my exams! ;)
Note: I support execution in those cases where the murder is caught in the act or there is absolutely no doubt that the murder is guilty. This would apply especially to terrorists, both foreign and domestic, mass murders, and serial murders.
Is murder cruel and unusual? Was the victim murdered with no pain? Why should a murder expect anything less than the victim? It would appear that in the US murder is far from unusual, and kidnapping and holding the victim prisoner for life is a very unusual crime. Therefore, execution with pain of no more than a comparable level to that estimated to have been suffered by the victim would appear to be the non-unusual retribution and imprisoning for life the unusual punishment.
Its weird that the plunger on that syringe is the same color as the fluid being drawn up.
I thought it was just me.
There are numerous ways to instantly kill someone, before they even have a chance to know what happened. The problem is, they all tend to be rather gruesome. A small explosive change placed at the base of the skull, backed by something like a bag of IV saline to direct the force of the blast, would instantly destroy the brain stem with nearly no chance for the condemned to experience any sensation whatsoever. It would, however, be gruesome as hell, and therefore not likely to be a popular choice.
As to whether or not the death penalty is ethical, I would argue that it’s more ethical than lifetime imprisonment.
How the he'll did you think of that.
Bet you blew barbies up with m 80's.
Count me in wouldn't feel a thing
Good idea, we’ll start with your family.
Frankly, I've always been of the mind that whatever method the inmate in question used to kill their victim(s) should be used on them when the time comes. Fair is fair.
Justice not revenge. It's not a deterrent or it wouldn't be needed
I agree and believe that's a fantastic deterrent. I also believe it is Justice as the punishment is exactly equal to the crime, no more and no less. Less misses Justice for the victim and more misses Justice for the criminal.
I, in my infinite knowledge have determined that a high explosive helmet is the best method of execution. It's cheap, effective, painless, and makes for a good show.
I understand the purpose of giving 1 person in the firing squad a blank round to create resonable deniability that it wasn't you who fired a bullet. However, in practice you would 100% know if you fired a bullet or not if you have any experience firing a gun. So I think its more for people to be able to tell their family/friends/peers that they fired a blank, even if they know for sure that they didn't.
If I remember correctly, don't know what documentary, podcast or whatever I heard it or what war or time period it was referring to... But apparently it was a way to fix the execution method, give the soldiers who fired a personal out. You could sometimes line up 10+ gunmen at close range but then have them all miss, no one wanted to fire the killing shot and intentionally missed so they would know it was not them, thinking that someone else would hit the target. Having one or a few rifles loaded with blanks seem to fix this somewhat.
Ricky Lahey
Che Guevara was a big fan of Trotsky's revival and expansion of Robespierre's Terror of the Revolution. When Che started overseeing the murder of hundreds of people in Cuba, he decreed that all the shooters in the firing squads be given live ammunition in order that they would all openly share responsibility. Then, he would have the family members of the murdered victims marched through the execution grounds to see the dead bodies of their kin's lying in pools of blood to further terrorize them into submission.
That's what Corry and Trevor said.
@@RCSVirginia But Che did so much for the people (says some of my acquaintances).
Dan Carlin has a podcast on public executions. Amazing episode, but terrifying.
As far as beheading being humane: Answers with Joe suggests the horror of that is far beyond any sane person would like to think about.
We are all about ensuring that capital punishment is painless. No one is concerned about the victim's or their families pain.
Execution is pointless when we wait 40 years to actually execute the person.....
And it should take a long time so no mistakes get made. You can't take back an execution.
@@TheGingey You can't give back 40 years of wasted life, either.
@@pwnmeisterage so we should just kill them then? And what about all the innocent people we end up killing to save them 40 years of appeals? Yeah better to just die than have a significant portion of your life wasted.
@@TheGingey There's a small chance we'd kill an innocent man. There's a great chance a released murderer would kill an innocent man. If we don't have confidence our justice system can make the correct determination now then why should we have confidence it will do so 40 years from now?
I agree. It should be done the next day after sentencing. Either a bullet to the back of the head or massive opioid injection.
As far as who should be on the receiving end. I believe it should be those where there's no question of doubt of guilt. ie. multiple witnesses, video of the actual incident, no theories or circumstantial evidence. But not limited to murderers. Rapists, armed robbers, human traffickers, active pedophiles and those who commit treason including politicians.
"Final solution for execution"? Really, Simon?
Gas chambers began use in the 1920's, with a steep decline in there use following WW2 when the entire world learned of the Nazi party's final solution.
Yes, the final solution to all our problems
The solution of drugs that are prepared
‘Left the dead person in excruciating pain’. Love it😂
It is sorta odd to me, now that I think about it, that IVs are botched so often in lethal injections. Botched IVs aren't at all rare (for context, I work as a phlebotomist at a hospital), but they're EASILY determined almost immediately after insertion. They don't flush properly, since the fluid infiltrates the surrounding tissue rather than flowing easily into a vein. They're also exceptionally painful, as the surrounding tissue isn't equipped to deal with the massive amount of fluid. Mind you, I don't place IVs (I'm not licensed to), yet, I know enough that I'm pretty darn certain I could easily spot an IV that isn't up to snuff. In fact, I've actually caught a few of these for the nurses that I work with (a few times a patient has had one arm about 2x the size of the other arm due to a bad IV). My point is, a bad IV should be easily spotted, even with exceptionally limited training. At the very least, run a half liter of normal saline through it and see if the surrounding tissue puffs up like a balloon before starting the lethal cocktail. If you're in the right spot, the absolute worst case scenario is fluid overload for the condemned, which isn't exactly a major issue given their extremely short lifespan if the IV is properly placed. And if the IV is in the wrong spot, the worst case scenario is pretty much localized edema that would dissipate in a couple of hours with a heat pack if an IV cannot be established in the other arm.
Also, side note: this post should not be interpreted in any way, shape, or form as an opinion on the morality of capital punishment. I'm not addressing that issue with this post intentionally. Rather, I'm assuming it's legal, and questioning how it could be botched so badly as often as it is. This isn't to say I approve (or disapprove) of it. I intentionally am avoiding taking a side for the purpose of this comment
I've always felt that executions, in order to be a deterrent, should be public, graphic, and be drawn out in time, so as many people as possible can get to see as gruesome as possible a view of what happens when you break the law.
Psycopath
Alright edgelord
And that is why you do not hold a position of power anywhere.
Bullets cost a couple dollars and are easier to find than the drug cocktail.
Probably more effective also
Hanging is better, instant death and you don’t even need to have a guy shoot someone in the chest
@@admiralkipper4540 I was thinking head. Hanging isnt always instant there room for error. Just thought why not a defribulator type shock to stop your heart instantly or swift whack to brain stem
@@avgjoegaming8271 I think you underestimate the efficiency of hanging, professionally performed hanging almost never fail, in Britain we used this method for hundreds of years and got it down to a science
@@admiralkipper4540 "Professionally performed hangings almost never fail" A 35 cent hollowpoint never fails and saves taxpayer money
@@thehummusgavemeaids1596 I would prefer the hanging because of the imagery, criminals get hanged in the town or city centre for all to see
bullet seems pretty quick and cheap tbh.
What makes it expensive in the US is the never ending appeals.
I’ve overdosed a few times on heroin and been shocked back to life just overdose people on opiates you forget to breath and just pass out whilst it being quite euphoric at the same time
Watching Simon contain himself on his polite channels is hilarious in stark comparison to his beautiful display of himself on Business Blaze. Allegedly he tells a better form of truth there.
Have you ever considered doing a video on the Euthanasia coaster? That could be interesting!
Yes
In stead of doctors, use a veterinarian. They know very well how to kill painlessly. They even know how to find a good vein or start a central line if nessecary. There is no need for three injections, one massive overdose of a general anastetic is more than enough. And there is no way of botching it.
I’d be the guy selling popcorn in the viewing room during an execution.
"Crucifixion? Down the hall, line on the left, one cross each".
No, freedom actually. The judge said that I hadn’t done anything wrong so I could go free.
@@AtheistOrphan welease Bwian
🎶 Always look on the bright side of life... 🎶
I've been here 5 years , they only hung me the right way up yesterday
@@garyk1334 You lucky, lucky bastard...
Was just looking up Firing Squads an hour ago and now this comes out.
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Welcome to the algorithm!
Have you found one?
Jack Kevorkian got the process down to a simple straightforward method that can be done at home and yet government employees manage to botch 8 in every hundred...
I worked at an animal hospital. We would use propofol to sedate, then pentobarbital to euthanize. It was so smooth and painless that pet owners could even stay and say goodbye.
Those drugs are plentiful and easy to use.
I’ve been sedated with propofol for surgery. You don’t even remember it.
As a medical professional (not a doctor) , I can tell you asking a doctor to do an IV is like asking a janitor (assuming they don't know how) to do an IV. IO would be better way to administer the drugs (humerus). Nitrous oxide and Argonne gas is a good mix. Hanging with a 10 foot drop and a wire cable. Pain should not be the measurable means, but the length of time in pain is.
Oh yeah, after all aren't they in a giant facility with quite a few residents who had no trouble finding a vein, get one of them to do it!
You know when you fire a blank.
Was thinking the same thing... you can feel it was empty. You would think they could just have mounted guns with electronic triggers aimed right at the inmate and 5 buttons to push. That way nobody know what button actually set it off. Simple
@@TheRealTroubleShooter that's not a half bad idea. If I were to be executed and had a choice I'd choose firing squad. It's understood that the body goes into shock immediately upon destruction of the heart and starts flooding the brain with some cool stuff like DMT.
How about a robot? Automated firearm on a timer? 🤷♂️
@@abrahamwalton8244 well you don't want anyone to feel responsible, the person setting the timer would. The random button push mentioned above pretty much takes that away but your solution doesn't. Someone would still know they are the direct cause of death.
@@abrahamwalton8244 problem with that is the person setting it up and initiating it would have the blood on their hands.. unless there is 5 pressing different buttons or turning different keys to activate a timer or something. With that, nobody will know if their key was actually the one that worked.
With the recent times progress in robotics, medical imagery and AI, would it be possible to design a little device that can detect the most appropriate vein in a man's arm and inject the deadly payload flawlessly? It would both take away the human mistake risk and guilt of injecting lethal chemicals into an inmate
I think no one have addressed this before very well made this video. However road to oymiakan is on its way?
"First do no harm" isn't actually in the Hippocratic oath though "I will not administer a poison" is.
Haha, I didn't know that, I guess the pharmaceutical industry had that changed way back when, "Like ugh guys, this is going to a problem, let's change the wording a bit" !
It's only a poison if the dose is sufficient
i like this bit of the oath:
"To hold my teacher in this art equal to my own parents; to make him partner in my livelihood; when he is in need of money to share mine with him; to consider his family as my own brothers"
Doctor as responsible for more suffering than any other single group of people on this planet.
@@dadillen5902 well, then you better really hope your tin foil hat, healing crystals and random herbs from the garden work when you get sick.
Little known fact: Public hangings were reported similarly to a spectator sport. When the Molly Maguires met their demise on the gallows, the local newspaper reported how long each man lasted at the bitter end until he was declared deceased.
I was taught in history that hangings that did not use a slipknot wouldn't break the neck (yes this was a thing!) so frequently the loved ones would pull on the legs of inmate so they died of asphyxiation/ loss of bloodflow faster.
...If that wouldn't scar you for life I don't know what would.
First, I love Simon and all his creations.
Second, the oath is kind of of a myth in that not all US schools use it. Mine had it's own.
Third, doctors are usually not the best ones to find a vein. Paramedics, nurses and especially a good phlebotomist generally do a superior job.
I always thought long-drop hanging is likely the most humane method. The neck snaps and it's lights out. The problem is the length of drop has to be calculated based on the condemned's weight. These types of hangings are botched when the condemned doesn't drop far enough to break the neck, and can take twenty minutes or so to strangle to death (though is likely unconscious within the first few). If the condemned drops too far, it can actually tear the head completely off (though at least that's still quick). I should think long-drop hanging with the weight calculation erring _slightly_ toward an overly long drop is probably the most humane method one can devise.
These days the morbid obesse would need a different formula.
I’ve had surgery several times...thankfully I’ve had anesthesiologists who were effective and I neither remember anything nor felt anything during the 5 hour long surgery to fuse some of my vertebrae together...
I haven’t thought this through to a lengthy degree, but I wonder why we can’t just essentially induce anesthesia as you would for an operation but just don’t include the life supporting measures (like a ventilator and intubation). We have solid evidence to show the surgical cocktail is indeed effective at rendering patients unconscious, immobile and without sensations of pain during the duration of induced unconsciousness...8:’t that the same characteristics we are looking for here?
part of the issue there, i suspect, is the extreme level of expertise required in the administration of such surgical cocktails is only found in medical professionals, who are basically under oath not to deliberately help kill someone
@@BobTheTesaurus
That would present an obstacle, but it seems like that’s an obstacle that could be overcome relatively easily compared to finding an entirely new methodology (or we can just abolish the death penalty, but...realism 😐)
1 Ton Giant hammer dropped down like a guillotine on head. Inside of a cremation chamber that's activated after the hammer dropped through the head. so nobody has to transport the person out. Survival rate is about 0.0%
And no head left to experience anything. So no cruelty besides killing someone which is cruel on its own.
Giant hammer to the cranium? That is actually a means that has been used. It was used in Renaissance Italy, and called _la mazzolatta_ and it involved an executioner smashing in the head of the condemned man with a giant wooden mallet. Anyone who's ever read _The Count of Monte Cristo_ will recall that there's a detailed description of one of these executions around the mid-point of the book.
Years ago I watched a BBC Horizon doc about death penalties. It was presented by Micheal Portillo, a British Conservative politition who wanted to find a 'humane' method of excecution. After reviewing various methods he setteled on nitrogen. Inhalation of pure nitrogen causes nitrogen hypoxia. It was being studied in Japan as a method for killing pigs ready for slaughter.
A clip was shown in which a pig could open a small door of a plexglass chamber and eat the fruit that lay in the chamber.
The chamber was filled with nitrogen. One second after he stuck his snout in the chamber it fell on it's side, unconcious. His snout was now in the open air. Two seconds later the pig stood up and went for the fruit again!
On a side note: in TH-cam look up "The Onion Execution".
It's an Onion video on a new machine which quickly and "painlessly" rips the head off of the person being executed.
The onion is a satire magazine.
could carfentanyl be used as an agent of merciful passing from mortality for medical mercy and sentences of execution ? it is supposed to be quickly lethal in surprisingly small amounts . no disfigurement of the remains as well .
Fentanyl has all of the characteristics of a chemical weapon and considering where most of it comes from i wouldn't be surprised at all if it was (looking right at you China). Probably not a good idea to use it for executions.
I lay in the arms of Sister Morphine for a short while(fractured neck, and surgery afterward), the first hits were great(easy to see how one could be addicted, especially if taking it for "fun", my first hit was upon waking up from fusion surgery, the pain was off the charts when I opened my eyes, doctor(or someone) said "here comes the Morphine, and in 10 sec I was feeling great, and happy as a clam, it would seem that sending someone along with that or its relatives would be as reasonable as any other method, and the drugs needed are confiscated by authorities on a daily basis. The high on getting a dose wears off quickly and starts to only relieve pain,(very effectively, the purpose of it really) again explaining the need for increasing doses with addicts. I took far less than I was prescribed(only when the pain got miserable) and stopped it entirely within about a week or so(under those conditions a sense of time gets oddly vague) . It all leads me to think the stuff would send the "subject" off as cheerfully as it could be done.
I consider myself an acolyte of Albert Pierrepointe. He raised the bar in that particular technique. A much admired man.
He could weigh a person and measur the rope.
That's not the hard bit.
Sleeping is.
He did do a very good job of both.
Have a mortician hook a suction device to the right femoral artery and a formaldehyde pumping device to the left femoral
Small potential correction at 7:00 in: The reason for the blank round with execution by firing squad isn't to prevent the shooters from knowing who killed the condemned AFTER the execution, as any person who has fired blank rounds knows how different the recoil feels between a blank and live round. Instead it is to alleviate the shooter's mind BEFORE firing, allowing them to aim more accurately. This is likely done due to the fact that most people do not willingly want to kill another person.
Please do a Magaproject video on "The Big Hole" in Kimberly. What an amazing Megaproject of the day.
Death penalty:
Russia: Siberia
China: reeducation camps
USA: fast food
Brazil: Fiat Marea
Australia: Drop Bears.
China kills people for bribery.
Fiat Marea is now banned and considered a weapon of mass destruction 💥
Awww, but I like Mareas!
England, the Tory party
Using the phrases "final solution" and "human execution" in the same sentence is risky
I personally think that capital punishment should be as PAINFUL as possible change my mind
Why not use a gaseous anaesthesia that is used in surgeries in combination with opioid pain killer and electric shock to stop the heart.
Because we sell opiates to people hoping they'll execute themselves first
This man has mastered the art of content creation. He’s straight up killing the TH-cam game 👍🏽
Well executed
Simples. Use the doctor to monitor life support equipment during the lethal injection. Each chemical entry to the body would show clear indications of effectiveness prior to moving to the next.
I firmly believe the firing squad as an ethical way to carry out an execution. Based on the grounds that while war is terrible, standard firearms are considered ethical enough to kill other humans under the laws of war.
Can you do a Megaprojects/Sideprojects/Geographics on Oak Ridge National Laboratory? Seems like a notable amount of advancements that come from there.
Such as? And how did you learn of this?
The long or variable drop hanging as used in Britain before abolition was said to be the most humane if carried out by a skilled hangman.
Yeah, they need to be skilled. It's a similar issue as lethal injection. Too short a rope and they strangle to death over several minutes. Too long and it can tear their head off. Taking into account the height and weight of the person being executed is necessary for getting the proper length of rope to break their neck.
Osmium
1. It’s easier to calculate the length of rope required to perform a variable drop than performing an injection.
2. Mathematicians are not bound by the Hippocratic Oath
3. Singapore, Malaysia, India, Bangladesh all still perform death penalty by hanging. There are experienced people who have made calculations to perform variable drop hanging.
@@martytu20 japan also uses hanging
It’s funny that people don’t want to cause the murderer any pain,but what about the pain the victim feels
There’s an easy way to make it painless…put them under with a general anaesthetic first.
Megaproject idea: Mike O'Callaghan-Patt Tillman Memorial Bridge (Hoover Dam bypass). Somehow it was on time and on budget
Finally a dedicated episode about murder. Thank you Simon, very cool.
weirdo
😂🤣🤣🤣
Well it is the one project we have been doing since we were single cell organisms.
Ya know the death penalty is not just issued to jay walkers but to those people who have murdered in such a horrific way that it demands death
The murder rate in US kinda proves that the death penalty does not work. Its barbaric, old fashioned, and makes murderers of innocent people, could you sleep at night knowing you helped kill another? esp. when later evidence proves he/she/it was innocent, and not even a jay walker - it happens! didnt you see the movie? On the list of murders per capita USA is 74th with 5 murders/100,000 population. UK is 174th, with 1.2/100,000. No death penalty = less murders - whats your point again? Are Americans more murderous? is there more hate there? is it because you all have at least one gun? sux to be so high on that list, despite an ugly and flawed final solution/punishment/deterrent. If its the guns, ur fkd - cant put THAT genie back in the bottle, the murderers and crims wont hand 'em in will they - so be safe out there - its real. Too real methinks, life is sooo precious dontcha think? to be taken by a murderer, OR the state. Get 'em to make more ammo belts for your army - thats what the other inmates do, and it saves the country money too, its the new slave trade, with added killers and those happy lifers for three felonies....USA justice man...kinda sux dont it. Just cant give up those slaves, you kill eachother with glee, and turn lawmakers into state murderers. Its getting worse and worse, screw you, I'm outta here.
@@mistag3860 compare Mon death penalty states to the ones who do make check per capita ...doing by population is unfair ...and I will find out death penalty states is a deturent
@@billyholmes5533 You know i'm right, the best countries in the world, by how happy their population is, do NOT have the death penalty. Therefore, USA is not only full of unhappy people murdering each other with too many guns, the state adds to this, by murdering the victims of such a crap society. So even the people enforcing the law, are forced into the cycle of hate, murder and un-happiness, by having to murder inmates, or inprison them for life, for 3 felonies, none of which, on there own, are life sentences. Sux dont it? how can you disagree? ask nearly anyone in the EU and they would recoil at the barbarism of the death penalty - we stopped doing it some time ago, like slavery....c'mon man...you only stopped segregation in the 1960's - is it any wonder that BLM is? stop killing people!!!
@@mistag3860 wow crap society?? Pray tell why is it all of the minority's of the world want to come here is it because we are crap racist unjust ?? Why do they want to come here instead of some other country ?? Maybe they like being treated like crap...must be
@@mistag3860 wow you should not talk about another's country unless you are knowledgeable of that country's ... And you should be more respectful of the country that saved the world from Germany 2x or brought the world modern teck smart phones , internet and american football not that gay soccer u guys play
Was it you Simon who posted a video about the roller coaster euthanasia?
Someone designed a rollercoaster that had a series of loops that grew ever tighter so the people black out and eventually die before the last loop.
Carbon monoxide seems the easiest, you just fall asleep like all the people that do it accidentally in their cars/houses.
It takes incredibly high levels of CO to kill within a few minutes. Lower levels take a lot longer and come with a lot of pain. Furthermore, there is evidence that exposure to much lower levels can cause permanent damage.
if you're going that route, perhaps a mix of nitrogen, carbon monoxide, helium and/or nitrous oxide, and a touch of cyanide a few minutes in?
No need to insert a needle, so no need for a doctor to breach Hippocratic Oath, they're just there to confirm death, not to assist with it.
That being said, I don't think it's a penalty that should be used unless the evidence is absolute, they're clearly broken without any possibility of rehabilitation, and some premeditation was involved. That, however, might also include drunk drivers who kill others and have a previous track record; I have no sympathy for people that reckless, so throw the book at them when they injure others.
@@chouseification you dont need to mix anything, pure NO not only displaces oxygen but knocks you out, with other gases you will feel hypoxia - tachycardia, panic, numbness, tunnel vision, rapid breathing - unpleasant but still way better than prison staff with no experience missing a vein and proceeding without anesthesia
@@danielkron2513 and that's exactly _why_ I suggested the mixture - so they do not begin gasping for breath or even noticing that anything was unusual at first - they'd get high from the nitrous and fade into a tingly sensation and when they're buzzed enough, one can add more such as the cyanide to confirm the quick death, however of course on that cocktail you're going do be done within a few minutes anyways. The point is to be ethical which means that making them gasp for air at any point in the process is ungood, so add enough nitrogen so that is avoided completely.
Honestly i have no idea why usa are so dumb about this. People often die unconscious during surgery because anesthesiologist messes up. You can just OD with any anesthetic or opioid. But what do i now, im just a medical university undergrad, not some galaxy brain judge or official in usa, they probably have better reasoning, or maybe they just want them to suffer
The point I can’t get past is did the criminal think about their victims level of pain whilst killing them?? As far as I’m concerned the execution should be done in a manner that is cheapest for the tax payer & the least stress/guilt on the team of executioners... The criminals feelings mean nothing to me
So we should give the executioners the death penalty too then?
@@gladonos3384 your intelligence is overwhelming, really, it is! I feel for the people that have to do it. But someone has to I guess.
@@gladonos3384 death penalty is a love-hate relationship. That's why there is so much debate. It's reeeeallly hard for me to sympathize who may rape and kill a child, or just murders in general...firing squad seems the most efficient imo. Quick, cheap, to the point. 5¢ bullets are a lot cheaper than keeping an inmate alive for 25+ years...
@@gladonos3384 tl;dr. Don't rape or murder anyone and you'll be fine
Good video , shame there's too many ads
I have never understood this. 12 Guage shotgun to the back of the head is cheap, quick and gets the job done.
How about a hollow point 50BMG?
Ruins the funeral. Better to do it like Taiwan: lay the prisoner on their belly, and shoot the heart through their back. If they choose to donate organs, shoot the brain stem
I can attest to that being very hard to clean up.
Then you will be executed as a murderer under your definition.
@@catherinejohnson1354 wat
If beyond a shadow of a doubt this prisoner killed someone, I have no issue with the death penalty. The prisoner didn't consider the pain he was causing the person het killed and their loved ones.
Except "beyond a shadow of a doubt" basically never happens, beside Trumptards documenting their own rioting.
@Robert Sears An eye for an eye and the world is blind. Why is it illegal or immoral for a normal person to kill, but not for the goverment? Furthermore, revenge is not and cannot be justice.
That is an extremely basic way to look at it. It is not always so simple. And I say this as an advocate of the death penalty.
@@danielmoelders7290 To that I say, there are people that cannot or will not be rehabilitated. A complete moratorium on executions would have those people either be released back into the public with them still being a very real danger to society or it will have them locked in a tiny room for the remainder of their lives. And I will remind you that long term imprisonment is a form of torture.
This is a harsh reality you are going to have to face one day; Not every life is life meant to be lived.
If someone _is not_ beyond a shadow of a doubt guilty, then they should be set free, using your logic.
Midazolam (Versed) is well documented to have a high degree of paradoxical reaction in humans. For that reason it should never be used as the initial anesthetic in lethal injection.
Nitrogen is ideal as it produces only euphoria before unconsciousness and death. But you can also use helium for comedic effect.
I don't understand why a massive shot of fentanyl wouldn't do the trick... *edit, it would do the trick. The reason it isn't being used is because of politics.
just a huff of pure nitrogen would work but politics of the people pushing the death penalty insist it has to be painful, hence things like the gas chamber which was horrific
@@AsbestosMuffins Exactly; and Fentanyl has the potential to kill within seconds + it's literally one of the most powerful painkillers on the market, so it's not cruel and unusual (enough).
This is America.
A vacuum chamber would be equally as lethal and it would require no kind of interaction with the prisoner, other than strapping them down to make sure they don't do something stupid. And it would be 100% painless. No struggle, no pain, nothing, just sleep.
@@danielduncan6806 Doesn't that give you the bend i.e. your blood boils i.e. very painful?
I think they should develop a couple of hundred new execution methodologies. Then test each of them at least 10 times using politicians. Everybody knows politician don't have feelings. I don't know if they would find a new method, but the world would definitely be a better place with 2000 fewer politicians.